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SCO vs Linux.. Continued
An anonymous reader writes "ComputerWorld has an interview with Chris Sontag, from SCO.
Now the story has a pretty face." The interview has a variety of comments worth noting like how much source code SCO thinks has slipped from unix to linux. This story continues to amaze me.
all due to the fact that sco isn't doing well in the linux market. i mean, according to linux journal's review of sco linux, they didn't even offer a patch to some root bug back in (march?) for multiple days. this is the sort of thing microsoft does. actuall this whole thing is something microsoft would do. and look! if you rearrange microsoft a bit you can get sco rimoft. obviously microsoft and sco are up to something.
I write code.
I mean hell, there's only so many variations to:
#include
while (1) {}
Oh, wait...only Microsoft would do that....
"The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it." -- Ayn Rand
But then the price will start going UP again. And besides, I already have an ample supply of toilet paper...
Ita erat quando hic adveni.
Installation Complete! To activate you Linux system, call the SCO Licensing clearinghouse at 888-WEG-OTCHA to obtain an activation key. Remember, if you change more than 3 system components, you will have to obtain a new activation key. Have a Nice Day!
try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
"We're still identifying more and more code from Unix System V that is in Linux, and so we haven't even fully scoped the problem"
Why do I get the feeling they're running diff against the wrong directory or somthing daft like that?
I wonder how many of these are blank lines at the end of the file :)
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No it would not be appropriate to call them "$CO" since they will be bankrupt very soon.
This page offers the absolute best explanation about what is going on in the SCO vs. Linux issue. A definate must read!
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dollars, cents, nothing
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Sources at SCO have revealed some of the offending 10 or 15 lines of code, in no particular order:
main( int argc, char **argv)
return;
int i;
{
}
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
char buffer[MAXBUF];
#define true 1
#define false 0
- For the complete works of Shakespeare: cat
here are the lines from linux:
}
}
}
and Unix System V:
}
}
}
And unless enough people donate money, God is going to call Oral Roberts home.
We call it art because we have names for the things we understand.
Yeah, let's /. SCO's stock! ;)
My journal has hot
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Hmpff, what did you write? It's code copied from SCO to Linux, not the other way round? Well, who knows... :-) :-)
Joachim
People don't write Manifestos any more -- what's going on in this world? [Frank Zappa]
Yes, but they'll probably be changing that to 1-888-HO-LINUX, since that better conveys their view that Linux is a cheap, shameless hussy with no morals whatsoever that hooked "their" code.
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
Why not use their stock symbol $COX?
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
Let me see, they're suing IBM for 1 billion $.
That comes out to 60-100 million dollars per line of code.
I think we've just found the most expensive ASCII text in the world.
SCO's own phone number is 1-888-GO-LINUX
It still works, they've just changed their minds about where they want linux to go.
I stole this Sig
yes, but Virgin Records *is* owned by EMI! :)
"Right now, somewhere in this world, Scott Baio is plowing a woman he doesn't love," - Peter Griffin, *Family Guy*
Asuming that, as The Register put it, "SCO is Redmond's beard", remember that Microsoft's ultimate legal wet dream would be an all-the-way-to-the-supreme-court challenge to the validity of the GPL.
The expression "the fact" shows up 5,480,000 times in Google - I doubt they all copied your post...
Just what is SCO alleging anyways?
Is it patent, copyright, or trade secret infringement?
That depends; what day is it?
... you insensitive clod !
Hopefully, a karma whore will have posted the full-text of the article.
:wq
May I have your attention please?
May I have your attention please?
Will the real UNIX Owner please stand up?
I repeat, will the real UNIX Owner please stand up?
We're gonna have a problem here..
Y'all act like you never seen linux source code before
Jaws all on the floor like Bruce, like Linus just burst in the door
and started whoopin that SCO's ass worse than before
they were first with the source, throwin it over IBM (Ahh!)
It's the return of the... "Ah, wait, no way, you're kidding,
he didn't just say what I think he did, did he?"
And Novell Man said... nothing you idiots!
Novell Man's dead, he's locked in my basement! (Ha-ha!)
Kernel lovin men love Novell too
SCO UNIX, I'm sick of it
Look at them, walkin around suing users' you-know-what
Flippin the you-know-who, "Yeah, but he's so cute though!"
Yeah, SCO probably got a couple of screws up in the head loose
But no worse, than what's goin on in their corporate boardrooms
Sometimes, I wanna get on Slashdot and just let loose, but can't
but it's cool for Cowboy Neal to spread his lie caboose
"My source is on your lips, my source is on your lips"
And if I'm lucky, you might just give it a little kiss
And that's the message that we deliver to little kids
And expect them not to know what an OS's source code is
Of course they gonna know what linux sourse is
By the time they hit fourth grade
They got that kernel.org don't they?
"We ain't nothing but hackers..." Well, some of us are slackers
who cut other people open like smashed crackers
But if we can hack a dead OS and take our source
Then there's no reason that a man and his penguin can't recourse
But if you feel like I feel, I got the antidote
Men here wave anti-SCO flags, sing the chorus and here it goes
I'm The UNIX Owner, yes I'm The Real Owner
All you other UNIX Owners are just lying loaners
So won't The Real UNIX Owner please stand up,
Please stand up, please stand up?
Cuz I'm The UNIX Owner, yes I'm The Real Owner
All you other UNIX Owners are just lying loaners
So won't The Real UNIX Owner please stand up,
Please stand up, please stand up?
Linus don't gotta cuss in his code to sell distros,
Well SCO do, so fuck them and FUCK YOU TOO!
You think we give a damn about a lawsuit?
Half you suits can't even stomach it, let alone use it
"But Tux, what if they win, wouldn't it be weird?"
What, you guys just lying to scare me now?
So you can sit me there next to Billy G?
Christopher Sontag better switch me chairs
So I can sit next to Torvalds and Bruce Perens
Listen to ESR lie 'bout who he gave bribes first
Stupid fuck, making shit up 'bout MS on the 'Net
"Yeah, they lie, steal and cheat every chance they get!"
I should download the Halloween memos on MP3
And show the whole world how he made it up for free
I'm sick o' you little fangirls and fanboys
So I just came here to destroy you
And there's a million of us
Just like me, cuss like me
Who don't give a fuck like me
Who dress like me, walk, talk and act like me
And just might be the next best thing but not quite me...
they go like this
int i = 0;
int j = 0;
for (i = 0; i < 100; i++)
{
for (j = 0; j < 100; i++)
{
ok, now there are 6 lines that could have been copied. However, I am fairly certain that they would have been copied out of some text book originally.
Hm, note to self
Step 1 - patent the nested 'for' loop
Step 2 - sue IBM, MS, etc for US$1 bilion each
Step 3 - Profit!
Wow, I think I'm the first to actually have a step 2 included, go me!
-CPM
---You're all I need, When the water runs deep, You're all I need, Now I cry my soul to sleep -- Collective Soul, Needs
Just one minute!
"...what they did is lift 5 to 10 to 15 lines of code from multiple parts of linux and place it into SCO owned code and then simply claim that it was stolen from them..."
I just created this theory, (see down below a ways..) and you haven't gotten in touch with my attorney, Bernie, for rights to reproduction.
Expect a call from him, right quick!
t_t_b
I'm on PJ's "enemies" list! Are you?
(OK I'm actually making this all up but it could happen)
SCO Code Review Report
Apparently our programming staff have been consistently borrowing GPL code for SCO proprietary projects. According to the GPL we will be forced to make all of our products GPL.
SCO Spinmeister Report
Since no one actually ever gets to see our closed source why don't we claim we wrote it first and it was copied into the GPL projects? Then we can sue and make lots of money.
Coding Blog
From the article: Because we are dealing with confidential source code that we have never released without confidentiality agreements, we will have to put in place nondisclosures [agreements] simply to protect the source.
They're clainiming that their code has been wrongly included in an Open Source system - what is this confidentiality they need to preserve and how will they preserve it? It's already freely available to the whole world.
"that's not encryption - it's a new perl script that I'm working on..." - from some Matrix parody
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This lawsuit has being scheduled as OJT for freshmen in IBM :-)
Since they are inexperienced, there are too few press releases.