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Mozilla 1.4 RC1
Mister.de writes "Mozilla 1.4 RC 1 is out. We've added lots of features and fixed lots of bugs since Mozilla 1.3. Help us shake it down in preparation for Mozilla 1.4 final. More information is available in the release notes. Mozilla is an open-source Web browser, designed for standards compliance, performance and portability."
I really don't think it's necessary to announce every release cnadidate when there will likely be a couple. Alpha/beta/final? Great. RC's? Eh.
If the next release is to be based on Firebird and Thunderbird, that is separate components instead of the suite, call the thing 2.0.
It's a huge change in the code base, it's a huge change in the user interface, just call a spade a spade and release it as 2.0.
What is the rational for calling it 1.5? That'd be more confusing, in my opinion, than letting everyone know "Hey, big changes here. Check it out."
Do everyone a favor and call the release after 1.4 2.0.
obviously no deficiencies vs. no obvious deficiencies
I might have to read over the Mozilla Roadmap again, but 1.4 will be the last release based on the XPFE-based Navigator, and will replace 1.0 as the stable release. And starting with 1.5 it will be based on Firebird, which is XUL-based browsr?
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Wow.. although there is a problem when you upgrade it from previous version, but it's quite good.
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The feeling of bulky and heavy program is gone.
It's very fast when it is being launched and it loads HTML pages.
Well... probably Apple's decsion of choosing KHTML over Mozilla affect this thing. Before the Apple's decision, Mozilla was bulky and slow. Mozilla people may noticed their problem and don't want to lose its anti-MS user base.
You are going to love this browser.
Work with various HTML pages better than the Safari also.
I think that the main cause of the percieved speed difference (apart from the removal of Mail, IRC, and whatnot) is that the Phirebirdnix developers learned lessons from Mozilla's use of XUL, and wrote much cleaner code. That's what I've heard, anyway. :)
If all the world's a stage, anyone who says they want better lighting spends far too much time in a dark theatre.
Alternatively, buy one of the developers one of those cards, a case of beer, and promise him another case if he fixes it.
It will only effect netscape 7+, while mozilla is somewhat sponserd by aol (many netscape programmers put a lot of work into mozilla). even if aol pulled support for mozilla the oss community would just take on the project. A prime example of how opensource can actualy work
Please add integrated BITTORRENT functionality into mozilla, including a torrent download manager with TorrentSpy functionality ASAP!! That will be the killer-app feature that gets people switching!
IE6 is actually faster, you just have to know how to tweak it, after turning off all the fade effects, eye candy, etc Windows XP runs quite a bit faster than 2k pro thanks to being built with a higher compiler optimization (P2 vs Pentium, makes a huge difference on an Athlon). It's also got like 100 fewer crash bugs, check the MSKB if you doubt it. I still say IE sucks compared to Mozilla and I only use it for those increasingly rare sites that require IE and even then I have to use crazybrowser to make it barable (it adds tab support and popup blocking by wrapping the IE rendering engine inside itself)
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
if by pulling up front you mean has totally blown away i'd concur....
It's interesting that there have been no significant innovations from IE in several versions... I wonder if the codebase for IE is so confused that even a standard like tabbed browsing is too difficult to implement at this point without totally toppling an otherwise shaky product?
<input type crash> anyone?
1400x1250 in a 640x480 world...
Mozilla was my preferred browser on Windows longer than XP has even been released up until the early incarnations of Mozilla Phoenix started being released, but opinions are subjective.
I never cared much if it took an extra few seconds for the browser to start and I put more weight on being able to read what I want from a web page and move on than on total rendering time.
In addition to tabs which have been around for a while, what really puts Mozilla browsers higher on my list than IE these days are:
1. When you remove cookies you have the option for them not to be accepted in the future.
2. The option to block all pop ups except for sites you have put in the list of accepted sites.
I don't see MS putting features like these in IE in the forseable future and when/if they do these features will probably be over engineered.
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This bug is particularly troublesome. It looks like the latest version of Mozilla hasn't addressed the problem. Any plans to make it possible to copy/paste data from the many Arabic and Hebrew sites?
Wrong, wrong, wrong!!
Win98 is still used by a lot of people. If you can offer a product that relieves them from upgrading to Win2K, they will love it.
Actually, I found out that the best argument in favour of OpenOffice is the fact that it runs on all Windows versions and will do so for the forseeable future.
If Mozilla can become a problem-free product (installs on everything, can connect to everything) it will be great for their marketshare.
An easy fix to the bug would be to not change filenames at all when transferring them from server to client. I know the Mozilla team really, really wants to tell a file what type of file it is based on what the server's MIME stuff says (because MIME info is never wrong, and we all know that the world would come crashing to an abrupt end if Mozilla didn't rename half the files it downloads); but I strongly feel this behavior does more harm than good in the user-friendliness department.
I'm a big boy now -- if I want a downloaded file to have a different extension, I can change it myself. Really, I can... I've been studying up on it and practicing endlessly. Seriously, though; at the very least, the user should be able to select whether or not they want Mozilla to assign file extensions based on MIME info. I don't see how one could argue against letting the user decide.
This isn't a pet peeve of mine... no.... not at all... [twitch]
Hmm. It may be designed for these goals, but does it actually meet any of them? It's fairly portable, but I wouldn't like to have to defend the other two claims...
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ex: block all from http://www.whatever.com/ads/* so that I can still get everything from that server except whatever is in the ads directory ;-)
Mozilla Firebird will be like a "build your own" browser where you can choose from a lot of add ons without adding bloat to the core browser for everyone.
While I might like to add bittorrent, I don't see any reason for my neighbor, grandma, mom, dad, cousin, uncle, aunt, etc etc... to have that included in their browser be default. Bittorrent is hardly a widely accepted standard on the web at this point, where as FTP is used regularly on websites for downloads (such as Cnet, ZDNet -- okay so Cnet and ZDnet are owned by the same people... lol-- and most other sites w/ files for download
In fact, I hope they strip most components that are unneccessary for normal browsing out of the browser and offer them as add-ons instead.
By far the best browser on OS9 is Mozilla 1.21, but a lot of things were broken on 1.21, especially Mail. Would it really be that hard to merge in all the improvements that have been made since then and release 1.4 for OS9? I'm sure I'm not the only person in this position, forced to run OS9 on my office computer. In fact, I'm almost sure there are more people in this boat than there are HP-UX users... so what gives?
before you dl next time check out the roadmap table near end of page to see the estimated dates for the next release.
Considering AOL and MS have smoked the peace pipe, I'm not any too certain that roadmap is going to be valid much longer. If AOL is going to be using IE as the basis of their userland software, goodbye funding for Mozilla.
Writing some HTML/javascript, then hitting to save button, only to find it hasn't worked - because it didn't save it!!!
Copy and pasting. Sometimes that doesn't work at all!!
If you have a large space in between text paragraphs, not being able to delete the spaces
Not being able to change the font sizes
The table editing form has taken to "jumping" whenever I select an option, or save/cancel the edits
OK I know that Mozilla is primarily a browser, and composer is essentially a bolt on extra, but it's handy for knocking together some web pages quickly and being able to preview the results. at the minute i'm having to use something like notepad to make sure the code is saved and those spaces are deleted. Sometimes I'm even forced to open up frontpage (shiver!) just to get that pesky table deleted or resized...yes I know I can look at the code, but if you've got several tables nestled inside each other, or a 4 column, 20 row table, visually it's quicker...
Does anyone else have similar hassles with composer? The Mozilla team are doing a great job, Mozilla is by far (in my opinion) the best browser on the block, but if any of the Mozilla team are reading this, can you please sort out composer?
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I've tried and failed twice to migrate to versions of Mozilla above 1.2.1 without success. None of the new versions seem to like the older mailbox format. I never had trouble migrating the mozilla mailboxes prior to 1.2.1 - going from Mozilla 1.0.x to 1.1.x to 1.2.x went without a hitch. Anyone have any suggestions?
I tried this as askslashdot, but was spurned. Is there any way to get my passwords out of Mozilla in a plaintext visable state? I have so many saved usernames/pw that I am feeling very uncomfortable that one day a file is corrupted and they are lost. It seems, though I'm not entirely sure, that simply backing up the data file is not a guaranty of resuablility on a clean install. Can sombody somebody who knows whats what with how pw manager works either point to a document or shed some light on this? Thanks
I discussed this with the Mozilla developers and they said they had never seen the issue, and that it must be something else on my machine.
So I downgraded to 1.3, and the problem went away. It's most definitely something to do with Mozilla 1.4b.
Has anyone else experienced this problem? And if so, does 1.4 RC1 have it?
I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive.
Another question: any news about XForms support?
Less is more !