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Raiders of the Lost Ark: The Adaptation

jonerik writes "Ain't It Cool News has an article on one of the more fascinating fan film projects ever conceived: A shot-for-shot remake of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" filmed in Biloxi, Mississippi between 1982 and 1988 by Eric Zala, Jayson Lamb and Chris Strompolis. What's particularly amazing is that the trio began filming the project when they were twelve and finished six years later when they were eighteen. Now, fifteen years after the project was completed, word of the film's existence has gotten out and audiences who have seen it have reportedly been stunned by the trio's ingenuity, with none other than "RotLA" director Steven Spielberg giving Zala, Lamb, and Strompolis a big thumbs-up. The complete film isn't available online, but a trailer that gives a bit of the feel of the finished project can be viewed. The Austin Chronicle also has a story on the project."

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  1. How about a DVD? by alain · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe the DVD to the adaptation will be out before the original version's. I certainly have stopped holding my breath for RoT and the original Star Wars series on DVD.

    1. Re:How about a DVD? by aussersterne · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Thumb your nose at the MPAA and get what you want at the same time... I bought both series on DVD on eBay years ago. They're Hong kong "bootlegs" but are basically re-encoded versions from other recordings (i.e. widescreen laserdisc) mastered to region 0 DVD. The Star Wars DVDs in particular are very, very nice indeed and most everyone who sees them asks how I managed to get an advance copy of the "real" Star Wars DVDs.

      Of course, if the "real" versions ever come out, I'll get them as well, but in the meantime, everyone's always turning up asking to watch my copies.

      Also picked up Barton Fink and a couple of other unreleased-on-DVD films this way...

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    2. Re:How about a DVD? by great+throwdini · · Score: 4, Informative
      I certainly have stopped holding my breath for [Raiders of the Lost Ark] ... on DVD.

      Ummm... release date November 4, 2003. You can't wait another five months?

    3. Re:How about a DVD? by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know about you, but I can't hold my breath 5 months

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    4. Re:How about a DVD? by dimator · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thumb your nose at the MPAA and get what you want at the same time
      ...

      Of course, if the "real" versions ever come out, I'll get them as well

      A real rebel, you are!

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    5. Re:How about a DVD? by taernim · · Score: 5, Funny

      I believe the term is: rebel scum
      ;)

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    6. Re:How about a DVD? by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 4, Funny

      What sort of format is a laserdisc? Something non-digital?

      Yeah, a laserdisk is technically just an analogue record, but instead of being made out of vinyl, it's made out of titanium cut with a laser (hence the name, laser disk). It is the same size as a record, but needs a special record player with TV out, and a slightly thinner needle to read the grooves as they are a lot thinner on the laserdisc as you need to put video on it as well as sound!

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    7. Re:How about a DVD? by CausticPuppy · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't know about you, but I can't hold my breath 5 months

      It's only hard for the first 4 or 5 minutes.

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  2. I'm sick by Swayne+Shabazz · · Score: 5, Funny
    This sounds funny....sort of. Watching three guys progress through puberty isn't exactly what I would call "entertainment".

    I was gonna throw in a "now three young girls progressing through....." punch line....but....nahhhh, even I'm not that perverted.

    1. Re:I'm sick by GimmeFuel · · Score: 5, Funny
      but....nahhhh, even I'm not that perverted.

      ...but I am!

      "Now three young girls progressing through puberty, that's a different story! I'd sure like to raid their arks!"

    2. Re:I'm sick by Savatte · · Score: 4, Funny

      If they remade the other two, you could make a joke about finding the holy grail, trying to drink from it, but ending up in the temple of doom.

  3. talk about dedicated fans by curtlewis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    that's alot of work just to duplicate your favorite film and it's not like they'll make anything from the effort other than the satisfaction of having done it.

    But then, back in my teens in the mainframe and paper tape days, I wrote my own version of the ever popular Star Trek game. I didn't need to, I could play the original all I wanted. Even the source code was available. But I thought I could do the same job in a more easily understood manner. So I coded up a virtually identical version. It was much less code and alot easier to read, although the original was a little faster.

    So I guess remaking something you like just because you can must be some kind of teen geek ritual.

    1. Re:talk about dedicated fans by isomeme · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Back in Ye Olde Days, this was a standard part of being an apprentice artisan. Before you got set loose to create new designs, you had to practice recreating old ones until you could do it perfectly. I think there's a lot to be said for this system, and it's rather cool that a certain kind of geek imposes it on him- or herself as if by instinct.

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  4. legality by ianmalcm · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Wheres the MPAA? Now that this fan film is known, gaining mass popularity, and may become mildly successful, will there be legal ramifications for copyright infringement?

    Shot for Shot remake, certainly the Writers guild will have something to say.

    A brilliant piece of work though. Puts Hardware Wars to shame.

    1. Re:legality by Achoi77 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Huh? Have the MPAA go after a buncha ppl that made a shot-by-shot remake of an 80's movie taped on a video camera, when they were 12 years old? That's just plain mean, and besides, nobodys made any money out of it.

      I don't think this film was even meant to be distributed around. It was one of those flukes that floated around the web, sorta like the Star Wars kid. I am VERY instereted in seeing how they pulled it off. Anyone got a copy?

  5. Woah by zptdooda · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man they'd have to have big balls to attempt that scene!

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  6. Holy shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They did this with Betamax and VHS? That must've meant linear editors - I don't envy them that task...

    1. Re:Holy shit! by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can do non-linear editing with VHS, it is just a bit trickey. You need a minimum of two decks, and 3 works much better. With a two deck setup you drop markers where you want it to start and stop and in what order. The unit that controls the decks then takes care of the rest. It holds the record VCR, gets the play VCR to where it needs to be, starts them in sync, records what it needs, stops, goes to the next point, etc.

      Now this approach is not without problems. The biggest problem I found was with the seeking of the VCRs. Even on fairly expensive ones (like $500 at the time I think), they weren't frame accurate. So you had to fudge your cuts by about 3 frames in both directions, you couldn't get it dead on. I'm sure that $2000+ master units can seek to a single frame, but none that I've ever touched. Also, you don't really know how it is going to look till its all done, you can't really preview it since there is often a lot of time in seeking inbetween shots. YOu have to set the whole thing up, let it do the dub, tehn see if it came out ok. If not, you have to make the changes and redo the dub. Each time, of course, is slightly wearing down your master. Wrose still is if you want to use multiple cameras and tapes. The 2-deck controllers I used never understood this concept, they wouldn't prompt for tape switches. So you either had to shoot it all on one tape, or get a setup with 3 decks.

      However, it is all possable to do non-linear. Just because it isn't digital, doesn't imply linear editing. Heck, before digital (and even now in some cases) you could do non-linear editing with film by simply physically cutting and taping together the segments. Same for audio. Get a 2-inch master tape, a sharp knife, some gloces, some tape and a lot of patience.

  7. 6 years. by _RidG_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    6 years of doing this. Now that's dedication. My interest in re-enacting scenes from Indiana Jones waned after a heated August afternoon with a bunch of friends, following which the guy who played an evil German had to be rushed to the hospital.

    Ahh...good times.

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    1. Re:6 years. by EverDense · · Score: 4, Funny

      6 years of doing this. Now that's dedication. My interest in re-enacting scenes from Indiana
      Jones waned after a heated August afternoon with a bunch of friends, following which the guy who
      played an evil German had to be rushed to the hospital.

      You should have used those little plastic army men, a cigarette lighter and an aerosol can, for
      the "melting german soldiers" scene.

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  8. Ingenious? by Sancho · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Am I the only one who thinks that a shot-by-shot remake of a movie is far from ingenious? Hell, when Gus Van Sant did it with Psycho, he was criticized for making it too identical. It's cool that they did it, and were able to manage it on what we must assume is a fairly small budget, but I think the hype over this thing is getting way out of hand.

    1. Re:Ingenious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think more than anything else, people are cheering it on because of the ingenuity displayed by these kids in filming this movie. Low budget movies like that are far more impressive than stale Hollywood remakes precisely because they are low budget - people have to improvise. Surely you would not see the remake for the plot or anything new - it's a remake, you've seen it before. It's just something that makes me step back and marvel at what can be accomplished if you are dedicated enough.

    2. Re:Ingenious? by Greg@UF · · Score: 5, Interesting

      When you read the article, Speilberg praises the boys' "vast amounts of imagination and originality".

      That's good enough for me.

      Besides, these kids were *kids* - not Gus Wossname with millions of bucks and a full production crew.
      Kudos to the kids !

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  9. others were supressed, nice to see this one live by dirvish · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is a prime example of a copy of a previous work as a beautiful thing. Immitation really is the greatest form of flattery. It is terrible that works like this are normally supressed by copyright laws that don't serve the populance. The point of laws is to serve the populance. Clearly supression of creative expression serves no one. It is encouraging to see that Spielberg gave them a thumbs up on this project, but I don't doubt he would sue the pants off of them it he thought their project would harm his extensive bank roll. And who can really blame him if he did, he would just be taking advantage of the ludicrous law of the land. Who knows how many other cool projects like this have/will never seen/see the light of day as a result of corporate america's tight grip on the world.

  10. Too many acronyms... by csguy314 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Am I the only one who saw 'RotLA' and thought:
    "Rolling on the laugh ass", what the hell?

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    1. Re:Too many acronyms... by BrynM · · Score: 4, Funny

      Better to roll on the laugh ass than have the laugh ass roll on you.

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  11. Re:Ah yes.... by ender_wiggins · · Score: 5, Funny

    I got it at 100kbps too. And I dont subscribe. Ah it pays to keep your money in your pocket.

  12. Re:Copyright Violation! by dirvish · · Score: 3, Interesting

    true enough. Spieldberg gave them the thumbs up, but who owns the rights to the movie they copied?

  13. aye aye... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    this is all to the good, but I'm going to wait ten years for the "director's cut" with gratuitous CGI, unnecessary scenes, etc..

    It would be in keeping with the Spielberg spirit, after all..

  14. Young Whippersnappers by daeley · · Score: 5, Funny

    Back in my day, we didn't have all that new-fangled technology to put ourselves in our favorite movies. We did it all in our minds! Uphill! In the snow! Through barbed wired and acid pits! And we liked it!

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  15. Okay, I managed to snag a copy. by pi_rules · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not much, and the encoding seems rather horrible if you ask me, but I managed to snag a copy before the Slashdot effect took over. Their front page seems to be loading rather slowly now.

    So, if you want to watch an AMD K6/2 400mhz go up in flames on a 768kbps DSL line. Here you go:

    Raider's of the Lost Ark Remake Trailer

    My ISP is so going to kill me...

  16. Fantastic Job by Soulslayer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I saw this last Saturday. One of the most entertaining movie going experiences I ever had.

    These guys did every sequence in the movie save one. After some frightening messing around with explosives they opted not to attempt the flying wing sequence despite having access to an aircraft and the part of the bald mechanic already cast.

    Every other scene is there though and done with impressive skill given their ages and the era in which they made it.

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  17. Re:Awesome news! by sridev · · Score: 3, Funny

    A really cool thing to do... I didn't realize Mississippi was so boring!

  18. This I would enjoy seeing by zakezuke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When we go and pay our $7.00 for slightly less then 2hrs of entertainment, less we forget the fact that the fact that amature fan spinoffs done by essentually students can provide entertainment. While they can't nessicarly match the production quality of hollywood's almost endless budget, there is alot more to a media then it's production value, content is a factor too.

    Starship Exeter [www.starshipexeter.com] is one example of fan based work. Based on classic star trek, their one release actually has a somewhat decent story as well as capturing that late 60's sci-fi theme while by todays standards is considered most cheezy. If you can get over the wind in the boom low quality film and shacky camera man, it's a worth see.

    Now, i'm not nessicarly going to say that this is going to be any good... but it should prove to be entertaining at the very least. More so then alot of things targeted tward the typcial 12 year old. I intend to watch it, if for nothing else but to use as an example, "Look at what these 12 year olds did... hollywood you have no excuse".

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  19. Re:I have mod points! by TrekkieGod · · Score: 3, Funny
    Yeah...and I would do it, if you hadn't posted the request, making your ineligible for giving me that mod point.

    Now there's just no more incentive :)

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  20. Re:I hope someone posts it on Kazaa by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I would hate to see those kids make any money off of this.

    They can't, since it's a scene for scene remake it falls under the heading of 'derived work' and requires permission of the copyright holder (LucasFilm, I presume) to distribute.

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  21. Music by cow_licker · · Score: 5, Informative

    If anyone cares the song that plays during the trailer is Four Ton Mantis by Amon Tobin. An excellent song.

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  22. Re:They ruined it! by raduga · · Score: 4, Funny
    Actually, they replaced the scimitar with a walkie-talkie.

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  23. In other news, three teenagers were arrested... by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Funny

    for violations of Der Kopiright Akt. Herr Ashkroft announced that these economic terrorists will be stripped of their citizenship and summarially tortured for days without sleep until they confess to their vile plans of toppling the government-approved media.

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  24. Anyone have it? by Beowulfto · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I live in middle of nowhere and will never get to see a screening, so if anyone has a copy, please get a torrent version out there for me.

    Some friends of mine did a similar project. It wasn't a shot for shot re-make, but an original story called Indiana Jed. Was a lot of fun for high-school students to make, and sure beats the heck out of playing computer games for hours on end. Take a look at Indiana Jed

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  25. Re:Awesome news! by Davak · · Score: 4, Funny

    We use to be boring...

    now we have all kinda stuff to do.

    And that's just a sampling of biloxi...

    Here's a sample of Tunica's boats! Of course, here is a whole web site dedicated to Mississippi's new found wealth.

    If you enjoy hiking, camping, fishing, Elvis, the blues, college sports, famous authors--then you might rather visit this site.

    Anyway, trying to get Mississippi a few props... and I have a few Karma points to burn.

    Davak

  26. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by silentbozo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd think it wouldn't be Spielberg who'd make trouble - after all, he got his start as a punk kid making films at a very young age. If anything, he probably be supportive. It's the numerous monied interests who own various bits and pieces of "intellectual property" who would sue the pants off of anyone they thought might "reduce the value of the asset", despite the fact that many fan-derivived works serve to sustain interest in the original property, thus ENHANCING the value of the asset...

  27. Re:Copyright Violation! by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 4, Informative
    The issue of what constitutes parody came up in the Penny Arcade / American Greetings discussions a while ago. Is a scene for scene remake a protected 'parody' when it does not excercise criticism ( usually humorously or mockingly ) upon the original work?

    I think 'derivative work' is a more fitting appelation here. Of course, I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on television, but I'm pretty sure that Parody isn't a catch all term that grabs all works in this class.

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  28. I think this proves one of my beliefs by Knife_Edge · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That you can accomplish anything you want if you devote an average of fifteen minutes a day to it. That might take a while for bigger undertakings (do you suppose these guys averaged 15 minutes a day working on this for six years? I bet it might even be a little less than that). But fifteen minutes a day is such a small commitment that if you want to accomplish anything at all faster, just devote an hour a day to it over a period of time.

    The only trick is knowing what you consider worth making an extended effort for. That takes vision. All the implementation takes is dedication.

  29. How in the world did they get . . . by jrl87 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... the first kiss, get a girl to strip and put on Marion's dress while they filmed it in the mirror.

    They are in my opinion quite obviously geeks, not that that's bad, considering how they had to make it, but when your a geek it's hard to get a girl to do anything (personal experience).

  30. Was at the first premiere. by dafragsta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It was insane. People wrapped around the Alamo two wide. The adaptation is very true to the film while still being very creative. I mean, how would you have done this stuff when you were twelve? I wish I had the ability to finish things I start like these guys. The Q&A's should've been filmed for the DVD special features. It was almost as entertaining listening to these guys describe how the risked life and limb and broke the law numerous times. Tbey basically played with guns, blew things up, got plaster molds stuck on their heads, (NOT dental plaster either) and lots of other stupid stuff kids do.

    Four words in closing. The fire is real.

  31. Re:others were supressed, nice to see this one liv by hoggoth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > How about this: if I create, with my own hands, a piece of furniture

    The very next day I could legally create, with my own hands, a nearly identical replica of that piece of furniture. Thank you for the excellent example.

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  32. Use it as a tool by coldmist · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think more than anything else, people are cheering it on because of the ingenuity displayed by these amatuers in writing this OS. Low budget software like that are far more impressive than stale Microsoft remakes precisely because they are low budget - people have to improvise. Surely you would not see the remake for the interface or anything new - it's a remake, you've seen it before. It's just something that makes me step back and marvel at what can be accomplished if you are dedicated enough.

    Cheers ;)

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