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SCO SCO SCO!

Still more links on SCO's assorted allegations of copyright infringement. They say they're going to sue Novell. Software analysts refuse to be part of the hoax - also some good quotes from Linus here. SCO and UNIX: a Comedy of Errors. Salon has a story on SCO too, but sadly it's not available to read freely. And Wired has an old story which I think sums up the SCO claims pretty well.

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  1. more bullshit from SCO by ravinfinite · · Score: 1, Funny

    blah blah blah blah blah!!!

    *i_am_not_lis-ten-ing*!!!

  2. SCO by grub · · Score: 5, Funny

    For Immediate Release
    June 3, 2003
    Salt Lake City, Utah, USA

    The SCO Group is proud to announce the latest product in its family of
    software products. "LawsuitClusterFuck(tm)" uses advanced SCO
    technologies to send out threatening letters to random businesses
    harvested from the internet.

    "It's a great day for the internet, open source and business!"
    proclaimed SCO spokesperson Charles F. Uckwad, III. "If you wanted
    to send out menacing extortion letters before, one would have to
    look up the address of the recipient in a phone book. Now, with "LawsuitClusterFuck(tm)"
    you just need to write up the threat as a standard form letter. Using
    standard variable names such as $COMPANY, $SHAKEDOWN_AMOUNT and
    $LIE_NUM the LawsuitClusterFuck software will use SCO's advanced
    heuristics to fill in the blanks. You'll need to hire an army of
    envelope stuffers!"
    The SCO Group is based in Salt Lake City, Utah and has done nothing of interest for many years.
    --
    Trolling is a art,
  3. Re:SCO still packs a punch? by PD · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you go to the zoo, you can go see some monkeys there that have no apparent ammo. Until one of them takes a shit, that is.

  4. For the sake of clarity - a different perspective by Zepalesque · · Score: 5, Funny

    This site has described the SCO-Linux situation using the Dukes of Hazzard metaphor.

    I found it quite helpful :)

  5. All this talk? by mao+che+minh · · Score: 3, Funny

    All this talk about this technology known as SCO. It seems cool, hell, it has to be with all this Slashdot coverage. But does it run Linux?

  6. Re:It's a comedy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Who is this Sue Linus and why is SCO threatening her?

  7. Oh please... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Normally this would not be right, but since this won't stop until they run out of cash, and they have to pay for bandwidth... here goes...

    Got bandwidth? Mad at SCO? Download a 5mb file from here or launch an unspecified number of wget processes:

    wget http://www.sco.com/images/pdf/eserver/eserver_sysa dmin.pdf

    This way, you'll know how to administrate their linux server which they discontinued.

    1. Re:Oh please... by SeanTobin · · Score: 4, Funny
      Why waste your storage space?
      wget http://www.sco.com/images/pdf/eserver/eserver_sysa dmin.pdf -O /dev/null
      .. remove space from the forced space insertion in the url..
      --
      Karma: SELECT `karma` FROM `users` WHERE `userid`=138474;
    2. Re:Oh please... by phearlinux · · Score: 2, Funny

      LOL

      I have 4 servers (free incoming bandwidth) that are collectively pulling about 80 megs/sec from SCO.

      Can't wait to see McBride shit when he sees his bandwidth bill :)

    3. Re:Oh please... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Replacement file (128Mb):
      wget http://www2.caldera.com/download_files/049-000-001 DL/volution_manager_1.1_eval.iso -O /dev/null

      as above, remove space from url

  8. Re:Salon by FearUncertaintyDoubt · · Score: 3, Funny
    A 15-second Microsoft ad, that is.

    I suppose that Michael is in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation here. If he watches the ad, he opens himself up to harassment for it (unclean! unclean!). If he doesn't watch the ad, he looks a little incompetent.

    Not that I am saying that you shouldn't harass Michael...now that would just be silly.

  9. Judge to do code review! by pVoid · · Score: 2, Funny
    Overly said a review of the code by anyone other than a judge "means absolutely, positively nothing" in determining the merit of SCO's claims.

    Read: a review of the code by *anyone* "means absolutely, positively nothing".

  10. Re:hah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The month of June is show-and-tell time," McBride said.


    then after that, it's time for a nap.

  11. Pot to Kettle... by MongooseCN · · Score: 4, Funny

    McBride characterized Novell's move as "a desperate measure..."

    Pot to Kettle, come in Kettle, are you there?

  12. Lets Embrace SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I see where this is headed!

    IBM buys SCOX...
    IBM changes name to SCOX...
    SCOX sues Microsoft... "You should of read what you bought! 0wned!"

  13. ...the duke boys version. by biolabrat · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is funny. Someone should mirror it before ot dies.

    http://www.arie.org/doh/

  14. "second blow"? by 73939133 · · Score: 5, Funny
    SCO delivered a second blow this month when it sent letters to 1,500 corporations using Linux,

    I think "blow" is the wrong metaphor. A "blow" implies strength, power, and the ability to inflict pain and damage. None of those apply to SCO.

    SCO is making a lot of noise and releasing a lot of hot air, something that should be embarrassing to SCO and is somewhat annoying but generally harmless to the bystanders. That kind of event is more accurately described as a "fart", not a "blow".

    So, using this more accurate metaphor, the reporter should probably change the article to read:

    SCO CEO Darl McBride farted again this month in the presence of 1500 corporate Linux users. He did not seem to show any embarrassment.

  15. Re:SCO still packs a punch? by Senjutsu · · Score: 4, Funny

    Confucius: Man who italicizes word its spelling should respect lest moderators invite all to see folly.

    Confucius say: Hey, I don't talk like Yoda. Give me some credit.

  16. GOLDEN BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY by Chyeburashka · · Score: 5, Funny
    I am an Attorney and close confidant of MRS. MARYAM GOTCHA, the former first lady and wife of the late GENERAL RAY GOTCHA, the former head of state and commander in chief of the armed forces of the Federal Republic of Utahwonga.

    She (MRS. M. GOTCHA), has as a result of the trust and confidence she has in me mandated that I search for a reliable and trustworthy foreign partner, who will help receive some UNIX source code which she has totaling Five Million United States LOC into a personal, company or any reliable foreign Unix-like system for safe keeping for a short period of time, since her family computer accounts within and outside the country have all been frozen by the authorities.

    This source code in question has however, been carefully kept in defaced form and deposited with a security company that has branches in Europe and America. You may therefore be required to travel to any of the branches to collect the source code on behalf of my client for safe keeping.

    I shall let you into a complete picture of this mutually beneficial transaction when I have received your anticipated positive reply. This matter should be treated as urgent and confidential. This is very important.

    PS, it's very important that you maintain your current good relationship with Dr. Linus. Only he has the keys to the vault in which we must deposit our Five Million United States LOC. When added to the Millions of LOC already there, we will all become very rich.

    Best Regards,

    Dr.Darl McBloodsukr

  17. Re:You can read it for "free" by larry+bagina · · Score: 4, Funny

    or worse than slashdot... where you get to stare at an MS ad 20 seconds while the restof the page loads and renders.

    --
    Do you even lift?

    These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.

  18. SCO's lawyer by Malfourmed · · Score: 5, Funny
    Even though SCO has hired David Boies as its attorney -- the legal star whose past clients include Al Gore and Napster ...
    And with a track record like that, how can SCO possibly lose?
  19. I recognize the strategy... by Kjella · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...it was well used by this man. Never underestimate what a company would do to keep up the illusion that they're winning.

    Kjella

    --
    Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
    1. Re:I recognize the strategy... by catman · · Score: 2, Funny

      I recognize it, too - it's GWB repeating the mantra WMD WMD WMD. He says they found something but seems unwilling to share it :-)

  20. i'm confused by towaz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Never thought i would be routing for Novell any time soon.

    --
    "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire
  21. Re:SCO still packs a punch? by fanatic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Would the team at SCO really keep pushing a lie,

    It's all they have.

    even though they know that by doing so they will face unspeakable countersuits after the trial(s)?

    They have nothing left to lose. They've been dead for years. Linux and *BSD make them irrelevant. They have nothing left, except the outside chance that they'll be acquired and/or temporary inflation of stock. The desire to be acquired is why they are making threatening noises to Linux users, (blackmail to encouage IBM to shutSCO up by purchase) which were entirely undermined by Novell's staetments about copyright ownership.

    HAHA, yea right. Had ya going there, didn't I?

    FUCK! SHIT! FUCK! Why don't I read the WHOLE post before starting these long involved replies?

    --
    "that's not encryption - it's a new perl script that I'm working on..." - from some Matrix parody
  22. Re:shareholders.. by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm hoping a little anal probing of Darl and his cronies courtesy the SEC is in the offing as well. Maybe he can share a cell with Martha Stewart.

    On second thought, that's a bad idea. I loath to think of the amoral, ethically berift offspring those to pieces of garbage would beget...

    --
    "Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."; ~ Donald J. Trump
  23. Look there it is: by bettlebrox · · Score: 2, Funny

    for(i =0; i j; i++)

    --

    I have a very small mind and must live with it.
    -- E. Dijkstra

  24. Here's the offending code by reptar64 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, this was ripped right out of AT&T Unix and was found in Linux after careful examination by SCO:

    ++i;

    Note the use of the letter "i", indicating it got there via IBM.

  25. Supernovae by Nick+Driver · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, but contrary to your analogy.... a supernova is also pretty bright. Need I say more?

  26. Re:SCO still packs a punch? by D.A.+Zollinger · · Score: 4, Funny

    For some reason I see the SCO CEO, only it is really Dr. Evil, and he has his pinky up to his mouth as he says, "One Billion Dollars!"

    --
    I haven't lost my mind!
    It is backed up on disk...somewhere...
  27. Minor violation at most by dtfinch · · Score: 2, Funny

    Even if SCO in fact owns the code that they claim was copied, how can they expect to get a billion off of it? They themselves say it's only a couple hundred lines at most. That's nothing. How much do you think the author of the code was paid? $30 for writing it? Plus $200 for debugging it? Lets say he was drunk that week and got $500 total for the code in question, or about $2 a line. SCO's demanding a 200000% markup on that. That's not justice and the leaked IP has nothing to due with SCO's financial troubles.

    They decided to stake their future on a small set of products and instead of introducing new products and services when faced with tough competition, they just ignored the problem for so long that now the only way they can profit is by suing their once most valuable customers.

  28. Re:SCO still packs a punch? by 4minus0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just wish that somebody would just buy SCO's collective asses and shut them the hell up

    Why don't we(slashdot readers) kick in and pull a blender on SCO? Damn, that would be great, if everybody that reads slashdot could kick in as much as they could, 10, 100, 1000 bucks, whatever, we could buy SCO.

    Once we buy them we release all code into the public domain, not even GPL, I'm talking Jingle Bells type licensing here. Then we dissolve the company, just let 'er go.

    Disclaimer: I have no idea how the business world works.

    --
    You've got an easy breezy wind at your back...most of the time.
  29. Re:geez by Feztaa · · Score: 2, Funny

    is it me or is SCO suing EVERYBODY now? I wonder if they will soon decide to sue God for creating a universe in which all these patent infringement stuff takes place.

    I seem to remember a case where some guy's house was destroyed by a tornado... so he sued the church. Supposedly, the church represented God, and God controlled the weather (act of nature and all that), so it must have been the church's fault.

    The guy won the lawsuit.

  30. Re:salon article by mcgroarty · · Score: 3, Funny
    Is it legal for you to post that here?
    Hint: Slashdot is now an illegal derivative of salon.com!
  31. Re:SCO still packs a punch? by Lectrik · · Score: 3, Funny
    What if it is Microsoft, with their own notion of not-free-freeware?


    If Microsoft buys SCO though, they could throw all teh money into legal funds and "prove" that unix is theres and shut down all the free(speech)ware on suspicion that they contain illegal code.

    luckly i have a patent pending on this method of pissing off slashdot and am incorporating it into an off-off-off-broadway musical, so any attempt to replicate these actions will result in me crying to the RIAA about how i'm not being treated fairly as an artist (and won't be able to sell any copies of the soundtrack). Perhaps the RIAA and Microshoft have large enough legal funds to kill eachother in an Arthur/Mordred type way
    --
    --- As to make my comment seem, by comparison, more intelegent... doodie doodie doodie poop poop poop!
  32. SCO as a swear word? by mdg149 · · Score: 3, Funny

    You know, put like that "SCO SCO SCO", it made me think SCO would make a good swear word. I'm not sure what it would mean and in what context one would use it, but I'm sure people can think of something. It would have to mean something SCOing awful, that's for sure. Windows ME is SCOware? The project is ruined, that idiot SCOed everything up!
    Maybe?

  33. Re:shareholders.. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oooh. Someone needs to make a screenplay about this. Cross "Ransom" with "Trading Places". Darl McBride (Mel Gibson) has a daughter (Natalie Portman) kidnapped by thugs (Chris Rock, Chris Tucker, and Eddie Murphy (or is that too many black people for a white movie?)) in the employ of a castrating bitch Wall Street lawyer (Cameron Diaz), who force poor little Darl McBride to pump up his company's stock in the next four days or else .

    This thing is practically writing itself.

    --

    There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
  34. Re:shareholders.. by nihilogos · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. Announce you're launching a lawsuit for a staggering amount of money on an IP/Contract claim against IBM.
    2. Announce revenues are up as the result of threatening letters to companies who use Linux.
    3. Publicly announce that MSFT bought a licence (I think MS is involved in this somehow, BWT).
    4. McBride fodders the market with rumors that they are looking to be bought by IBM. Nothing makes a stock price jump like rumors that small company X may be bought out by huge company Y.


    Surely there's a patentable business practice in all this.

    --
    :wq
  35. Re:It's a comedy by MyHair · · Score: 2, Funny

    If they did that, I would be sure to buy a few copies of whatever they release next.

    ThankWare?

  36. Offending Code? by Beatnick · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd be offended also if I found SCO in my code. :)

    If I was SCO, I would be so embarassed to find my
    trashy code in someone's prog or OS that I would
    litigate to just have the nasty *&^% removed.
    Wouldn't you? ;)

  37. Re:For the sake of clarity - a different perspecti by mj01nir · · Score: 1, Funny

    Cooter - Bruce Perens

    I'm sure Bruce will be very happy to hear about this...

    --
    the no .sig .sig
  38. Re:So let me get this straight... by csguy314 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Are they the super secret comment statements that surround the code?

    You got it. Secret comments like these:
    • /* Remember: "Different name, same old buggy as shit hardware." */
    • /* Only Sun can take such nice parts and fuck up the programming interface like this. Good job guys... */
    • * These chips are basically fucked by design, and getting this driver to work on every motherboard design that uses this screwed chip seems bloody well impossible. However, we're still trying. *
    • The four ACI command types are fucked up. [-:
    All taken directly from the kernel source.
    --
    This is left as an exercise for the reader.
  39. Re:SCO still packs a punch? by swillden · · Score: 4, Funny

    I will use their products, reccommend their products, and defend their products to the best of my abilities.

    But you won't buy their products?

    --
    Note to ACs: I usually delete AC replies without reading them. If you want to talk to me, log in.
  40. Re:SCO still packs a punch? by Artifex · · Score: 2, Funny
    Why don't I read the WHOLE post before starting these long involved replies?


    You mean, besides reading all of the articles, we now have to read all of the replies, too? :)
    --
    Get off my launchpad!
  41. abundance of service attack :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The pdf link gives:
    Document Not Found

    To find the document you're looking for, please see our company sitemap

    or use the following search:


    Just put this code in your webpages to pull images from their site and display them in a 1x1 size!:


    <img src="http://www.sco.com/images/scolinux/main_image 2.jpg" height="1" width="1">

  42. why don't they just poke every nest of zealots... by bragi · · Score: 2, Funny

    While they're at it, they should have a go at Apple.

    I mean, come on, they've raised the ire of all the Linux zealots, and now surely the Novell zealots (these do still exist in captivity, in fact, I work with some). Perhaps even the OS/2 zealots (being as how they're suing IBM 'n all).

    Go on, just have a poke at apple ... we all know that's where the /REAL/ zealots live :)

    They should also tread on some BeOS and Amiga toes while they're at it, just to try to set a world record at pissing off the most amount of zealots in one law suit ever!

    Imagine the PR!

    --
    -- James "Bragi" Deucker Patrician of Networks
  43. ultimate embarresment for SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    SCO have had to develop code already in Linux over the last years. They also have had a product "SCO Systems V for Linux".

    I'll bet any lazy developer there at some time must have "lifted" a few lines from Linux.

    Anybody with enough insigth to go look for this. That would be the ultimate embarresment for SCO

  44. Re:SCO still packs a punch? by krappie · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know this whole SCO/Linux thing can be very confusing, so I created this summary page to explain what's going on.

  45. Re:SCO is acting like they have no case by AuraSeer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Look everyone... It's a pretender!

    Or it's an actual attorney, who is keeping his username hidden because he doesn't want to be beseiged with requests for free professional advice. It's a fairly common practice IME, for lawyers and doctors both.

  46. Re:One line of code by heikkile · · Score: 2, Funny
    If there are "hundreds of lines" that offend, surely SCO can pick one that proves their point.

    Here - I guarantee that this line exists both in Linux kernel, and in SCO's. And in various IBM products too.

    return;
    The original authors of this code, Kerningham and Ritchie, have not commented on the copyright question.
    --

    In Murphy We Turst

  47. World exclusive! by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here is the first line of offending code:

    x++;

    And you have not seen it all, there are hundreds of lines like that, the bastard crackers just cahnged the name of the variable in all the code!

    And there is even more:

    x--;

    You did not see that one coming you fucking nerds. Take that you pirates!

    --
    IANAL but write like a drunk one.
  48. My e-mail response from SCO by usurper_ii · · Score: 4, Funny

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Darl McBride
    Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 12:05 PM
    Subject: URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL

    ATTN: MANAGING DIRECTOR/C.E.O

    LINDON, UTAH

    REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP

    First, I must solicit your strictest confidence in this transaction. This by virtue of its nature as being utterly confidential and 'top secret'. You have been recommended by an associate who assured me in confidence of your ability and reliability to prosecute a transaction of great magnitude involving a pending business transaction requiring maximum confidence.

    We are top officials of SCO Group (formerly Caldera International -- Nasdaq: SCOX) who are interested in obtaining your services. We are presently in negotiations in a business deal we feel will be quite lucrative. Since we may leave the country quietly in the middle of the night, in order to commence this business transaction, we solicit your assistance to enable us to transfer a large sum of money into your account to hold until further arrangements can be made.

    The source of this fund is as follows: We have leveraged IP that we originally thought belonged to our company in order to solicit a rather large monetary investment by the company Microsoft. We have in turn sued IBM for contractual violations and IP violations, as well as sending out thousands of threatening letters to various corporations and Linux vendors, in a move carefully designed to drive up our stock and put us in a position for our company to be purchased simultaneously. You see, this is a carefully executed plan modeled after what some might call, "a house of cards." We hope very much that we will collect from all parties involved, sell our stock before it tanks, and head for some fun in the sun, IF all goes as planned.

    However, by virtue of our position as members of the SCO Group, we cannot acquire this money in our names.I have therefore, been delegated as a matter of trust by my colleagues of the panel to look for an overseas partner into whose account we would transfer the sum of US $21,500,000.00 (Twenty One Million, Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) Hence we are writing you this letter.

    We have agreed to share the money thus:

    1. 20% for the Account owner (you)
    2. 70% for us (The officials)
    3. 10% to be used in settling taxation and all local
    and foreign expenses.

    It is from the 70% that we wish to commence the importation business.

    Please, note that this transaction is 100% safe and we hope to commence the transfer latest seven (7)banking days from the date of the receipt of the following information below

    (a)company name and Beneficiary of account (b) Your Personal TeL. Number and Fax Number
    (c) Bank account/Sort/ABA/Routing numbers were the funds will be transferred to
    (d) Your Bankers Address, Telephone and Fax Number.

    The above information will enable us write letters of claim and job description respectively. This way we will use your company's name to cover our paper trail. We are looking forward to doing this business with you and solicit your confidentiality in this transaction.Please acknowledge the receipt of this letter using the above tel/fax number. I will bring you into the complete picture of this pending project when I have heard from you.

    Your faithfully,

    Darl McBride

  49. SCO, as in FIA-SCO by Dave21212 · · Score: 2, Funny


    Hilarious. The salon article was well done. My favorite line (it actually had me laugh out loud) has to be:

    For folks keeping score, "SCO" doesn't stand for "Santa Cruz Operation" any longer, and it's to be pronounced not as three separate letters but as a word that rhymes with "fiasco."

    Priceless ;)

    --
    "Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech."--Benjamin Franklin
  50. Re:SCO still packs a punch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yeah, let's give SCO money! That'll teach 'em!