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Ballmer Sends Wakeup Call to Staff

Puneet writes "An MSNBC article outlines details of how the world's biggest software company seems to be facing a technology gap. Steve Ballmer, chief executive officer of Microsoft, sent a memo across the company basically saying that with no immediate breakthroughs in technology coming, and with the Linux computer operating system and a batch of other open-source programs biting at its heels, Microsoft will have to do a better job of persuading customers it has something they need. . Microsoft must "improve business consistency" so that customers are not hit with unexpected - and unwanted - changes. Also covered by Forbes but in lesser detail."

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  1. puff, puff by sweeney37 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft will have to do a better job of persuading customers it has something they need

    sounds like a few tobacco companies I know....

    "get 'em hooked young, then they'll never stop!"

    I'm sure if Microsoft could nicotine to a product, they would.

    Mike

    1. Re:puff, puff by tuffy · · Score: 5, Funny
      I'm sure if Microsoft could nicotine to a product, they would.

      Kindof gives a whole new meaning to "Microsoft Patch", doesn't it?

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  2. Blah by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To back up this new push to promote a more customer-friendly Microsoft, Ballmer promised that the company would âoeincrease our advertising budget significantly for all our audiences.â

    This pretty much sums it up.

    An equal headline and probably more accurate one would be "MS launches new media campaign to portray company as customer-friendly".

    All marketing, no real changes.

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    1. Re:Blah by jkrise · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Ballmer promised that the company would âoeincrease our advertising budget"

      Isn't that the strategy used by MS at all times? Fix bugs by advertising. Release patches through the media. Release new versions through the media. Release performance reports, Aberdeen reports, Gartner reports, 'studies' CERN reports etc. through the media.

      If anything, Linux has proved that you can't fool all the people all the time. Even Gartner has woken up to Linux these days.

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    2. Re:Blah by PerryMason · · Score: 5, Funny

      I guess Steve Ballmer was right when he said that the open-source movement stifles innovation. I mean now Microsoft has to spend all that money telling us their products are great instead of coming up with the next Clippy.

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  3. iLoo by mrn121 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...all of a sudden that iLoo isn't looking like such a bad idea...

  4. Increase advertising budget?? by jraf · · Score: 5, Insightful
    To back up this new push to promote a more customer-friendly Microsoft, Ballmer promised that the company would âoeincrease our advertising budget significantly for all our audiences."
    Huh? Since when do expensive advertising campaigns make a more customer-friendly company?
  5. Trustworthy computing by watzinaneihm · · Score: 5, Funny

    If Microsoft emails keep leaking like this, it is about time they came up with a "Trustworthy employee" program before the "trustworthy computing" initiative.

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  6. Unwanted Changes? How About License 6? by ausoleil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More than anything, Microsoft has really hurt itself through it's new licensing plan -- and this with a competitor who offers an initial software cost of zero. That defies market logic -- to raise your prices when faced by a seemingly lower cost competitor. It almost forces the hands of IT engineers (who already face much tighter budgets) to consider open source solutions instead of Microsoft when they need an implementation of, say, an extra file and print server to hold all of the new graphics files generated by the marketing department.

    At the end of the day, it is money that makes the corporation go 'round. And, if I can offer my management and users a better solution that costs less money, it is in my absolute best interests to do so.

  7. The problem - and the solution! by Alsee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First he identifies a problem - Microsoft has no new and innovative ideas for improving their products.

    Then he comes up with the perfect solution - "improve business consistency!" The best way we can serve our customers is by not introducing any new and innovative ideas to improve our products!

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  8. One of Microsoft's strong points by gpinzone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Knowing the "mess" they're in and fixing it has always been one of their strong suits. When they released Windows 3.x and found lukewarm support by WordPerfect and Lotus, they admitted it and took a course of action to correct it. When they realized they were too late in jumping on the Internet bandwagon, they admitted it and started development on a browser to compete with Netscape. Now, they realize that they are falling behind in the security and "features people need" area and will most certainly strive to correct the situation. So, don't just sit back, point your finger, and laugh; take a good look within the open source world and see what needs fixing.

  9. strange... by thoolihan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think it's odd the article doesn't mention apple. Sure GNU/Linux is the most immediate server threat, but apple is more likely to threaten the desktop. Also, no mention of software solutions threat (IBM, etc).

    -t

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  10. Re:Huzzah! by Chief+Crazy+Chicken · · Score: 5, Informative
    Linux and all of its branches like BSD
    Timeline of GNU/Linux and Unix

    Note particularly:
    1980: Bell Labs finally shows interest in BSD Unix
    -and-
    1991: 05Oct: linux 0.02, first mention of directory-name 'linux' on netnews
  11. Shakey by Mattygfunk1 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It seems to me that Ballmer might be feeling a bit shakey after seeing preview versions of Longhorn. Considering this quote:

    "Longhorn will come when we think itâ(TM)s really ready.

    you have to wonder whether he thinks some of the changes are too extreme and possibly of little value to the user.

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    1. Re:Shakey by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Here's the thing. With their "Trusted Computing" Platform, all the bugs have to be ironed out before shipping, otherwise the chain of trust is broken. After the first bug, it is no longer Trusted Computing, but Fairly Trustable Computing.

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    2. Re:Shakey by rampant+mac · · Score: 5, Insightful
      "Longhorn will come when we think itâ(TM)s really ready.

      you have to wonder whether he thinks some of the changes are too extreme and possibly of little value to the user."

      Or it could mean Microsoft's waiting for Apple to release its next version of OS X, so they can, um, compare features and come up with new "innovative" products. Yeah...

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    3. Re:Shakey by jproudfo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well if they keep redesigning the GUI for each release of Windows, adding in more annoyances like Messenger (which they make hard to remove for the less IT literate people) then their future isn't looking too rosy.

      With Linux you can upgrade to the latest kernel and stick with KDE2 if you want. You're getting the latest drivers, security and performance enhancements but you're maintaining a familiar front end.


      Um... What? On one hand you're saying that the "less IT literate people" find it too hard to remove things like messenger and then you're suggesting that these same people should move to Linux because they can use the same GUI even after a kernel upgrade?!

      If these users can't figure out how to disable messenger (a check box), I doubt they're going to be able to figure out how to upgrade the kernel. :)

  12. Here are a couple suggestions.... by Anita+Coney · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First, Microsoft should dump all money losing divisions. As I'm sure everyone here has heard, Microsoft's OSes and Office products generate over 80% profits, which the company uses to fund losers such as WebTV, MSN, the Xbox, etc.

    By dumping those loses, Microsoft could drastically drop prices AND continue making the same profits. I'd be a win-win situation.

    Second, drop product activation. No one likes being treated like a criminal. And as I've written here before, product activation does NOT stop real piracy, i.e., piracy for profit. The ISO for XP Professional was readily available and instructions for installing SP1 were easy to follow via tweaktown.com's instructions. Simply put, pirates were still able to copy and sell XP Pro without ANY impediment.

    The real purpose of product activation is to stop friends and family from sharing copies. If Microsoft's software was lower in price, (see my first point) people would simply buy their own copy.

    Third, stop the egregious software assurance type deals that only serve to piss off your customers. If you really want Linux to fail, stop giving your customers a reason to use it!

    Fourth, stop with those outrageous deals to stop Linux. You know the ones, when India, China, or Germany wants to switch to open source, Microsoft bends over backwards to give practically free software. This totally pisses off customers paying way too much via software the draconian deals imposed in my third point. Secondly, it gives them an incentive to look into switching to Linux.

    Fifth, stop using the BSA police to force deals. When public schools canâ(TM)t afford your software, donâ(TM)t send the police force a deal. When I didnâ(TM)t buy a GM car, they were kind enough NOT to send the police to check out my garage. We expect the same courtesy from Microsoft!

    Sixth, I could go on and on and on. But since my boss expects me to work for money, Iâ(TM)ll quit here and let others post some suggestions.

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    1. Re:Here are a couple suggestions.... by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 5, Insightful
      By dumping those loses, Microsoft could drastically drop prices AND continue making the same profits. I'd be a win-win situation.

      No, that wouldn't work. Microsoft depends on high growth for stockholder returns, and partly to pay its salary bill. Operating systems and productivity software are a saturated market - they own it, and with flat PC sales, it's not expanding. Worse, they're about to have their lunch eaten by Linux.

      They have to spread out, and hope that todays money-loser turns into tomorrows next big thing.

      Second, drop product activation. No one likes being treated like a criminal.

      Unfortunately enough people are that it makes sense to try and maximise profits by clamping down on it.

      The real purpose of product activation is to stop friends and family from sharing copies. If Microsoft's software was lower in price, (see my first point) people would simply buy their own copy.

      What price should it be?

      Fourth, stop with those outrageous deals to stop Linux

      Yeah, this one would be nice :) But I can understand why they do it, it's like a snowslide, all it takes is a few blasts and the right place and the whole thing starts sliding. They know this.

      They also know timing is critical. Windows only has so long, eventually it will be a liability rather than an asset. Eventually it will be cut off from them as a revenue source and by that day, if they haven't diversified enough, it's game over. No more Redmond.

      They have time to do that, but it's hard. Stuff like MSN, the Xbox etc shows they in this for the long haul, as well they might be. So they need to buy time, because they don't know how fast things will move once Linux becomnes truly viable.

      Sixth, I could go on and on and on. But since my boss expects me to work for money, Iâ(TM)ll quit here and let others post some suggestions.

      Heh, my boss too, so one last one - unfortunately being nice to their customers isn't going to turn Microsoft around, it's far too late for that. They have to leave Windows before it drags them down with it, and until they manage that it's a race against time.

  13. Re:Unwanted Changes? How About License 6? by tkrotchko · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The issue for Microsoft is that to keep their stock prices high, they've got to show continually rising sales.

    But they're not going to convince anyone to switch to MS product at this point...everybody already runs a MS OS or MS Office, so there's no growth there. The market has matured.

    The server market has slow turnover, and growth will come slowly there (if at all).

    I see them doing two things:

    1) Putting license key schemes in place on their OS's, this will get a marginal revenue increase by eliminating the bulk of casual piracy for the OS

    2) I imagine the same thing will happen with MS Office soon

    3) Hope to god the console business takes off...

    4) Come up with a DRM scheme and convince the record companies and users its a good thing. Unfortunately, they don't have a good reputation as a strategic partner.

    5) .NET - next big thing....

    6) Palladium - next big thing....

    I mean, Ballmer's right, there's nothing there that will mean a big revenue increase for MS; its just a lot of nibble around the edges.

    Frankly, MS would have been better off splitting into an application company and an OS company; each individual company would be forced to innovate and take chances. But as they are now, MS is a very very conservative company, and that's not going to lead them to any big breakthroughs.

    They are equal to IBM in 1975.

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  14. Advertising Budget? by Matrix272 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article says that Ballmer plans to "increase our advertising budget significantly for all our audiences". Does anyone else see that as treating the symptom rather than the disease? The point of the article was that Microsoft doesn't seem to have anything to persuade people to buy its products, so instead of INNOVATING, they're going to "persuade" people that they need Microsoft. The problem isn't that people don't need Microsoft, the problem is that Microsoft isn't creating anything new and exciting in the computer world... and increasing the advertising budget by all the money in Fort Knox isn't going to change that.

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  15. Maybe ballmer should read more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    When you compare POSIX native thread in the next release of Linux and this article by Chris Brumme about AppDomains it's obvious the issues with distributed transaction on windows platform has serious problems. In Brumme's article, he discusses why creating new threads is heavy weight and diificult to scale. Read his other articles, they are very informative. Distributed transactions don't necessarily require threading, but without a robust threading implementation, solving the problem is that much harder. Not only that, doing complex distributed transactions requires a robust Object Persistence manager, which isn't available from microsoft. There are third party tools for .NET that do Object Persistence management, but it's not nearly as mature as several Open source apps.


    There are several important differences between how .NET handles dynamic runtime loading of classes and how java does it. .NET requires a separate AppDomain, which means it has a higher overhead. Using a separate AppDomain is only needed if you need to unload/reload an assembly at runtime. Although java classloaders are difficult to grasp for many programmers, it provides a better way of handling dynamic loading. I won't bother going into the details of how dynamic loading works. Tomcat has plenty of examples of how it is done for each webapp.

  16. When did .NET fail? by OrangeGoo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry, I haven't seen a failure of .NET. I'm just curious where you're looking. I work for the US Army Corps of Engineers, and we use the heck out of .NET and everyone loves it. There is some Java development here, too, but most of our new stuff is in C# (which is, of course, essentially a Microsoft-ized Java).

    I haven't heard any complaints from people who use .NET on a regular basis. Personally, I think it's great.

  17. Marketing Technology by Alien54 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Basically this sounds not like actual technology, but a complaint that many folks have figured out ways to get around Microsoft's Marketing Technology (things like licenses, etc) that locks them into MS products.

    I've had more people thank me profusely when I've handed them a copy of Open Office, just because they didn't have to shell out big bucks for the MS product. They didn't even know an alternative was available.

    • Some industry analysts have pencilled in 2005, but the company is not prepared to endorse that view. Also, following its recent commitment to delaying software releases until it has ironed out all the bugs â" a marked departure from the companyâ(TM)s earlier practice â" Microsoft seems more than prepared to wait.

    It's probably even money that they'll bow to internal pressure to get something out, sort of like a WinME for XP or something, a stop gap to make people buy something.

    Otherwise, all those people who paid extra to be in the guarenteed update program will be upset, because it will become obvious that they are not getting very much for their money.

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    1. Re:Marketing Technology by ReelOddeeo · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's probably even money that they'll bow to internal pressure to get something out, sort of like a WinME for XP or something, a stop gap to make people buy something.

      Otherwise, all those people who paid extra to be in the guarenteed update program will be upset, because it will become obvious that they are not getting very much for their money.


      That's kind of the delema that they've painted themselves into. We will ship no software before it's time. But we've already taken people's money so that they can get implied promised upgrades.


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      Microsoft be they name
      Thy monopoly come, thy will be done
      throughout the earth as it is in the US.

      Give us this day, our daily license activation key
      And forgive us our bug reports
      as we forgive our system crashes
      And lead us not into competition
      But deliver us from innovation
      For thine is the Control, and the Power and the Greed
      Forever. Amen.

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  18. ...while Apple keeps building bridges by mblase · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple may be marginalized, but they're the ones on the consumer end who keep building the bridges Microsoft has to walk across. No new technology coming forward? Apple built their own with the iPod. They were late to the game with iTunes, granted, but iPhoto, iMovie and iDVD are still leaps and bounds ahead of any competition in terms of ease-of-use.

    The "digital hub" strategy they're embracing is working very well for Apple. The only problem, natch, is that digital camcorders (and camcorders and DVD burners) are still too expensive to be casually embraced by most consumers. But then, prices are getting lower all the time -- simple digital cameras under $100 are easy to come by, and used iPods can be found on eBay for as low as $100-$150. Apple knows that people are doing less and less with their personal computers but more and more with the other "computers" around them, and constantly works on ways to tie those peripherals to Apple's hardware and software.

    What Microsoft ought to be throwing it's money towards, then, is building easy-to-use consumer software that consumers actually *want* to use, not because they're gimmicky but because they're easy to understand. Media Player is a good start. Their video editor needs much work, and integrating it with the ever-cheaper DVD burners and VideoCD writers could only help them.

    Then let's try some new ideas, just to see if they take off. Skip the Tablet PC thing; build a cheap (like $50-$60) e-book reader that people can actually afford and will want to own, then get the magazine and newspaper publishers to sign on. Try to really integrate webcams and IM. A Flash-format animation creator for under $50 so people can make their own cartoons. They don't have to give this stuff away with the OS, if they make it cheap enough to buy separately. (I'm keen on that $50 price point, which is the most your average consumer will spend on non-profit-making software.)

    Microsoft is, IMO, so bent on keeping the business markets that they've all but neglected their consumer market. Aside from some pretty colors, self-customizing menus and Apple-chasing software hacks, they've not done anything new for the home market since Windows 95 was released. It's good for them to spend time building tools that developers and managers want to have, but it helps their image immensely to add the stuff home users would want to have -- even if they don't make as much profit from it.

  19. Re:What else are they supposed to do? by plover · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Even Joe Sixpack is starting to get fed up with Microsoft.

    Joe Sixpack has one feature that Microsoft doesn't want to exploit: he's cheap. Sure, he'll plunk down $50.00 for a game (repeatedly) but when you ask him to fork over $279 for Office (which sounds a lot like "work") he's more likely to take a second look before shelling out that kind of dough.

    Throw in the added whining 10-year-old "but Dad, I need Word for my schoolwork, teacher says" and you've got additional friction.

    I see a big void out there waiting for the Open Office crowd to step in: offering "Schoolwork CDs." It worked very well for Apple in the 80s; school sales literally kept them afloat while the IBM PC ate their lunches in the business world. Picture a schoolful of kids, all needing (yes, needing) an MSWord-compatible word processor for their home computers for their schoolwork. Now picture the local PTA volunteers burning 300 copies of "Open Office for Windows for Schools" with SIMPLE installers, and offering them to parents gratis. Would they still fork over $179 for "Office XP for Students and Teachers" if free disks are lying on a table at the exits? Or would they start seeing Open Source as a viable alternative to All Things Microsoft?

    And for those parents who can't afford the latest equipment, a Linux For Schools distro could be put together that specializes in offering only the stuff people need for schoolwork: Open Office, Mozilla, etc. No check boxes for servers, no configurations other than a time zone. For that matter, a "Configure Your Own Linux For Schools Distro" distro could be put together for the PTA crowd. It would allow the novice to input the schools name, a few bitmaps of the school logo at various resolutions, time zone, etc., and produce an ISO ready for handing out at the meetings. It could even print a disc sleeve that lists minimum computer required. That would need to be nothing more than about a 90MHz Pentium with 2GB of disk that can be had for about $20.00 from a junk trader. Hell, the PTAs invovled could probably get old PCs donated from the more "technologically current" families that they could preinstall and offer to the less affluent students or schools. I know I have a basement full of ancient PCs that aren't improving with age.

    Damn. I'm thinking this sounds pretty good...

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  20. Hey, Ballmer - you *still* don't get it. by Asprin · · Score: 5, Interesting


    Microsoft will have to do a better job of persuading customers it has something they need

    How can you be this smart and this delusional at the same time? You want to make Linux functionally irrelevant as a business OS? Here are some **REAL** ideas off the top of my head:

    1) Abandon Palladium. We really don't want to use our PCs to watch movies - we have $50 DVD players for that -- see #3. 'Nuff said.

    2) For that matter, your EULAs are WAY THE F___ OUT OF CONTROL. "Hmmm, it sure is an important OS security patch, but damned if I'm gonna install it because it sez right here that doing so gives MS the right to control my PC." I don't care what you *intend*, that's what it sez. If you want to control what's on my PC and what I can do with it, then you buy it for me, Mkay?

    3) Quit stalking your customers like a collections company. Abolish Open Licensing 6.0 and this *STUPID* software-by-subscription idea of yours. (If you want me to re-buy your software every year, those annual subscription fees are going to have to be lower -- a **LOT** **F___'IN** **LOWER**. Office '95 was good enough for me.

    4) Admit that your security problems are a direct result of your insistance in violating the #1 rule of software design: YOU NEVER MIX CODE AND DATA TOGETHER. You have specifically engineered every product you sell to be scriptable. STOP IT! Remove the OS-level scripting capabilities from your products and provide patches to your current customers to do the same on previous versions.

    5) You guys are acting like the software engineering divisions at HP! Stop trying to improve things that don't need improving and realize that the only perfection is simplicity. Go out and play some golf, maybe take some dancing lessons. ;)

    Sure, I like Linux, but I also like Windows. My problem is that even though I have already given you my hard-earned money many times over, I feel like you've nailed a bulls-eye on my back and handed out shotguns to all your beer-swilling pals.

    I am exploring alternatives because sticking with you is like being a hostage (as in gun-to-the-head) in a car speeding down a desert highway. If I jump out, it'll hurt, but once I stop rolling, get up, brush myself off and walk back to town, I'll be in control again.

    Wow, not-so-ironically, it **really** **is** much more about 'freedom' than 'free'-dom.

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  21. Nothing left to Steal by Ridgelift · · Score: 5, Funny

    "...with no immediate breakthroughs in technology coming..."

    Translation: We've run out of other people's ideas to steal.

  22. Re:What else are they supposed to do? by Spellbinder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i think joe sixpack isn't the problem
    all they do is using their computer for surfing web and writing letters
    the problem is the user between geek and sixpack
    he wants to do things himself say install a printer, software, install new graphic card drivers maybe even replace his graphic card
    but he has no deeper knowledge of the system
    for this user linux is to complex to do such tasks (in sufficient time)
    it is the point where windows has the biggest advantage to linux

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  23. What we really want . . . . by LazloToth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "...companies have turned to Linux and other open-source software programs, seeing them as cheap but adequate alternatives."

    I'd amend this to say companies find that Linux and Friends aren't just "cheap but adequate." Instead, we find on the server side that they are cheap, rock solid, effective, and simple. In my opinion, Microsoft does do many things well. But MS continues to believe that "featurization" is what companies want, and that corporate types will see additional features as being worth additional time, trouble, and money. What MS might finally be seeing is that more feature-laden, more trouble-prone, and more expensive is NOT what we're looking for. Open Source code should serve as a model for Microsoft, at least in the back office, because it's written by geeks, for geeks. And, obviously, it works.

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  24. kept them afloat? by rodik · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...school sales literally kept [Apple] afloat while the IBM PC ate their lunches (...)

    What do you mean? They had swimming on their schedule or something? :P

  25. Matrix Quote . . . by DongleFondle · · Score: 5, Funny

    " . . . and with the Linux computer operating system and a batch of other open-source programs biting at its heels, Microsoft will have to do a better job of persuading customers it has something they need."

    "I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world....without you. A world without rules and controls. Without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there, is a choice I leave to you."

  26. Re:Huzzah! by Sj0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You seem to have a couple things confused. I could be mistaken, but it looks that way.

    Taking forever to choose a platform for graphics and sound isn't a product of compatibility, it's a product of choice. I know that's a foreign concept to a lot of computer users, so I'll explain. You see, in an efficient marketplace, there are generally several competitors, all who have their respective strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes, it will take a customer more than half a second(!!) to decide, based on these strengths and weaknesses, which is fine, because in that way, mulitple products(now, this is the important part now) can co-exist because not every customer has the same requirements. To put this in a less abstract way, look at your grocers juice aisle, at the orange juice. Odds are, there might be Sun Rype, Dole, Minute Maid and Sunkist, all in the same aisle. They don't stock them all because it's the idealistic thing to do, they do it because some people have different goals and different desires.(My personal favourite is Sun Rype, because the rest taste like orange peels).

    As for the installer, last time I checked, Linux was not Red Hat. Mandrake, for instance, has an installation from scratch that puts the Windows 2k or XP installations to shame in terms of allowing the beginner to install the product without knowing a thing, yet allowing experts to delve into details.

    I wouldn't really argue that Linux is technically superior in every way to Windows, as there are a few features which I think windows does better than the Linux platforms I've seen(and I doubt that will change until the 2.6 kernel is released and bundled into new distributions), but you haven't given an example otherwise. The lack of choice on the Windows platform and the fact that you don't think the installer is simple enough are not technical reasons Windows would be superior to Linux. They're pet peeves at best, and massive misinterpetations of what exactly "Linux" is at worst.

    Great idea using the old "I'll probably get modded down for saying this" bluff. Gets 'em every time. Weakminded fools. Though I'll probably be modded to hell for saying that. ;)

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  27. Hysterical, not just Funny by Arbogast_II · · Score: 5, Funny

    I need to sue SlashDot for all the Hot Coffee I spilt on myself laughing!!!

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