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New AIM Offering "end to end" Encryption

MankyD writes "The current AIM beta is now offering message encryption. They don't offer a lot of details but it's nice to see they are offering some extra privacy. Will the new AIM be illegal in Michigan?"

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  1. Gaim-E by jonman_d · · Score: 4, Informative

    Gaim already has such a project. Anyone use it? I've tried it in the past, but couldn't get it to work.

  2. Trillian... by swtaarrs · · Score: 5, Informative

    Trillian has had this feature for as long as I can remember using it.

    1. Re:Trillian... by eddy · · Score: 4, Informative

      But Trillian is bloated flashy-ware, while Miranda (nightlies here) is slim and nice.

      Encryption supported via SecureIM (DH/KE + AES) or gnupg plugin

      --
      Belief is the currency of delusion.
  3. Trillian by sahrss · · Score: 5, Informative

    Trillian already supports 128 bit encryption over AIM and ICQ between Trillian users.

  4. Re:Gaim-E? gaim-encryption by kfort · · Score: 5, Informative

    I find gaim-encryption to be very well done. It works transparently, using variable key sizes, and uses a security model similar to that of ssh. Kirk

  5. Re:Trillian by dunham · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I last checked Trillian negotiated its 128-bit blowfish encryption key via 128-bit DH key exchange, which is not very secure. (It's about as secure as using a 128-bit RSA key.)

  6. Here's how to get a free key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Go to Thawte, get their Free Personal Email Certificate for your browser/email. Then, from your browser (it works in Mozilla/IE) export it as a .p12 file. Then go in to the Advanced option in AIM's Security preferences, and import the .p12 file. You'll start getting an extra password prompt and a little lock icon.

  7. Well, it's a start by randombit · · Score: 5, Informative

    Realistically, replacing a protocol that uses plaintext with one that uses crypto is good. But I wouldn't trust encrypted AIM for planning any revolutions, folks. To quote one of the linked pages:

    "AIM encryption goes beyond basic Secure Socket Layers (SSL) encryption" and "Although SSL is widely used, it does not provide the best security over a Public Instant Messaging network."

    This is a big WARNING SIGN, especially considering that a) they provide zero details about what they are using (big no-no in the first place), and b) WASTE, the only other AOLish crypto I've taken a look at, had some fairly serious problems (this was not just my asessment - check the cryptography@metzdowd.com archives for a rundown). This is not exactly confidence inspiring.

    Lastly, are they seriously suggesting rolling out a full PKI for all AIM users? Again, details are light so I'm not sure this is what they mean, but it does seem to be implied. If so, someone needs to inform them of the harsh realities of PKI. Certs for AOL users wouldn't be too hard, since they already have addresses, CC #s, etc to let them (at least with reasonable probability) check on people's identity. But everybody else - forget it.

  8. SecureIM by ElOttoGrande · · Score: 4, Informative
    SecureIM has been around for a while now. It basically acts as a proxy and you set your Aim to connect through it. Inside the proxy it encrypts everything with 256bit blowfish, then on the receiver's end reverses the process. The result is transparent encryption with the standard Aim client.

    It's easy to install but since both parties need to have it running can be tricky trying to get non-geeks to understand why they should install it.

    I used it for a while with the few(2) friends I could convince to run it but then kind of forgot about it...

  9. Only businesses can use this feature by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative
    From the press release:
    • Security credentials that enable these capabilities â" Personal Digital Certificates â" are an optional service available to enterprises as part of the Enterprise AIM Services offering.
    That is so Bush Administration.
  10. GPG by krokodil · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am using Fire (MacOS X multi-protocol IM client) and it has GPG encryption for long time.

    The way they done it, it is quite easy to make it work with other IM clients: they just use GPG to sign/encrypt each message and then send it plain text in ASCII armor. The client on other side can detect such messages and decode them.

    No protocol extensions required. I wish somebody address support for such mechanism in standard Yahoo and ICQ clients and other clients.

    I guess if more open source IM clients will support it, it could become de-facto IM encryption
    standard...

    I use IM a lot for work and some information I exchange there could considered business secrets.