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Shrinking The Watermelon

Makarand writes "Scientists who have already eliminated seeds and sweetened the watermelon have now miniaturized this fruit to the size of a cantaloupe. Only the outer speckled shell looks give a clue to what fruit it really is. Syngenta, a Swiss agribusinesses' North American subsidiary has brought this minimelon to the market in 30 states to satisfy customers who favor something that is easier to store and less troublesome to prepare for consumption. No biotech or genetic engineering at work here - the company merely crossed different breeds of watermelons to produce the minimelon."

59 comments

  1. Oblicatory Google Affliate Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
  2. Genetic Engineering by GigsVT · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Selective breeding sounds a whole lot like genetic engineering to me.

    In any case, I bet these will be popular in Japan, if the stories I have heard about watermelons and Japan are true.

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    1. Re:Genetic Engineering by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      Then we all practise it. Think about how many ppl marry so that there kids have a better percieved chance in life. Some do it by chasing money, others look for the intelligent or cute spouse. No matter what, it is a form of selective breeding. In fact, it is no different than this.

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  3. Miniaturized? Hah! by Traderdot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who cares about small watermelons when you can have square watermelons?

  4. White man's reparation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Seedless, five pounds, and perfectly spherical, Syngenta's patented minimelon
    â" under the brand name PureHeart â"

    Just to let you know, I've patented DNA.
    I expect you all to send me 5 Euros or be killed.

    1. Re:White man's reparation by Spokehedz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You can't patent DNA--its GPL'd. ;)

      Seriously, you can patent the _sequence_ of DNA--which is proprietary code, and subject to all IP laws and such... which is what they've done here. Or at least, I hope they did... if not, there going to be really pissed when someone sequences their Minimelon DNA and copyright's it.

      I'm still waiting for the GPL'd Minimelon, which will run better and faster than all Minimelons previous.

  5. Just for the record; by Astatine210 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Genetic Engineering: Creating a new organism by directly altering its genetic code (most notably by 'splicing' code from other organisms into it). Understandably, this idea freaks people out. I must say it doesn't make me particularily comfortable. Selective Breeding: Overriding the subtle hand of Natural Selection in species' evolution with human choice; ie. hand-picking which organism will breed with which. It's the origin of just about every 'domesticated' species, such as wheat, dairy cattle, and (er, I think) brewer's yeast. Selective Breeding is where Chihuahuas, Pekes and Devon Rexes come from, so it's not entirely in my good books either.

    1. Re:Just for the record; by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      It's also quite likely how your (and my) entire family history for the last >2000 years came from, so I wouldn't complain too much...

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    2. Re:Just for the record; by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with Devon Rexes?

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    3. Re:Just for the record; by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Add to this list:
      Hemp- for both its psychoactive and its fiber (rope) properties
      Corn - maize was not particularly nutritious or cost-effective (in terms of time-to-grow&pick vs. calorie yield)
      Dogs - in general. Wolves were our predators until they were bred into our help-mates.

      etc, etc, etc. I don't look at things like selective breeding or direct genetic manipulation as anything except speeding up the overall process of evolution. Given what evolution has accomplished so far, that can't be anything but goo

  6. What?? by ilbrec · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's the big deal?? They have those small watermelons in Japan for many years (some watermelons are as small as a softball). I know this, as I worked in watermelon shipping warehouse in Japan for a while.

    1. Re:What?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know this, as I worked in watermelon shipping warehouse in Japan for a while.
      Bullshit. Way too convenient.

    2. Re:What?? by jericho4.0 · · Score: 1

      Nowhere else on the web will someone pipe up with an authoritive opinion on a subject, and the experience to back it up. "I worked in watermelon shipping warehouse in Japan for a while"Christ.

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    3. Re:What?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had the same reaction, and I haven't worked in a watermelon shipping warehouse in Japan at all.

      I've just grown watermelons in the garden in northern Wisconsin, and bought them in local farmer's markets in Minneapolis-St.Paul. They're frickin tiny--at least, about the size of a cantaloupe--sweet, and so much better than the flavorless behemoths you buy at the grocery stores.

      When I first showed them to relatives, they didn't know what they were, and wouldn't believe that they were watermelons until you cut them open.

      Anyway, I would be impressed if I saw a teeny tiny mature watermelon, the size of a tennis ball or softball. But I've definitely seen mature watermelons the size of cantaloupes, sometimes even a tiny bit smaller.

    4. Re:What?? by Marquis_of_fire · · Score: 1

      I once grew a watermellon the size of a racketball. It was fully mature as well. I can't taste sweet so I can't garuntee that personally, but other people found it tasty. What little there was of it. I just planted it later in the season.

  7. No genetic engineering? I don't think so.... by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Troll
    No biotech or genetic engineering at work here - the company merely crossed different breeds of watermelons to produce the minimelon.


    Excuse me, but what do you think cross-breeding is?

    Crossbreeding IS genetic engineering - just because no gene splicing is involved does not change that.
    1. Re:No genetic engineering? I don't think so.... by thomasmd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      genetic engineering has a connotation of direct human alteration of a gene, as opposed to just picking which plants get to breed. Semantics I know, but most people make the distinction.

    2. Re:No genetic engineering? I don't think so.... by Goldsmith · · Score: 1

      You definition still works here. Humans directly influenced a particular set of genes to get this. Just because we used "traditional" techniques doesn't make it any different.

    3. Re:No genetic engineering? I don't think so.... by thomasmd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would agree. But let's face it, the average joe on the street (people who have never heard of /. nor care to) is going to have a very different view when you present them with a watermelon produced by mucking about with the DNA in the laboratory versus one whose parents were played with in the greenhouse. Just look at the European Union and their views on GM food. That was my main point.

    4. Re:No genetic engineering? I don't think so.... by madhippy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      GM often seems to introduce 'alien' dna into the host - i.e. there no way on earth crossing a pig and with spinach that you'll get offspring.

      spinach and pigs

    5. Re:No genetic engineering? I don't think so.... by PostItNote · · Score: 1

      True, but when most people think of genetic engineering, they think of gene splicing - and gene splicing has the crappy side effects of possible allergen contamination (people allergic to peanuts becoming allergic to the new kind of corn as well) as well as antibiotic resistance (due to the method most places use for gne splicing).

      It's like the word "organic". Sure, it originally meant "molecule that contains no metals", but it has gotten another meaning now, that of "no fertilizers or pesticides". So try not to be a pedant - language is an evolving beast.

    6. Re:No genetic engineering? I don't think so.... by MeowmiXXX · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just for the record Organic molecules can contian metals, hemoglobin is good example as it contains iron

    7. Re:No genetic engineering? I don't think so.... by PostItNote · · Score: 1

      Thanks.

      I almost failed freshman chemistry oh those many years ago, so my memory is a little hazy.

    8. Re:No genetic engineering? I don't think so.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even cross-species genetic transfers occur naturally. For example, there is a specific genetic sequence that only exists in certain Southwest U.S. snakes -- and in cattle breeds from the area. The odds against it being coincidence are tremendous, yet it was not done by human-directed genetic engineering.

      The assumed mechanism in this case is viral transmission, which itself is more-or-less the same way we do deliberate cross-species genetic enginnering.

  8. Less testing as well by mlush · · Score: 3, Informative
    No biotech or genetic engineering at work here

    This does not mean that there is less risk, 'normal' plant breeding is quite capable of producing something toxic on its own

  9. Re:Miniaturized? Hah! by slothman32 · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's the problem with the Simpsons. You never know when something is real. Of course it's not real that it would pop back to a spheroid shape. But I think even in the show it cost 10,000 Yen.

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  10. Get in my belly! by thinmac · · Score: 4, Funny

    Even the store clerks at Vons seemed taken with the little melons.

    "Those are the cutest baby watermelons," one said on a pass through the produce section. "Aren't those like little babies?" said another.


    The real news here is the shocking news that Vons employees like to eat babies. Compared to the image of grocery store checkout workers huddled around cute little baby-sized spheres, cracking them open and eating the sweet, sweet red insides, tiny watermellons just doesn't sound all that disturbing.

    Of course, maybe you think tiny watermellons aren't supposed to be disturbing, but that's just because you're tiny fruit desensitized.

  11. Flavour by loveaxelrod · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think that reducing the size of the watermelon would dramatically increase the flavour, considering it's the same amount of fruit and juice, but compressed into a smaller space. You can achieve the same effect by "super-ripening", a process whereby a melon is over-ripened. Melons which have been super-ripened have superior flavour - though this is something I read somewhere, I have yet to see such a melon should it exist.

    Can anyone confirm this??

  12. Re:Miniaturized? Hah! by pmz · · Score: 1

    From the linked BBC article:

    Each melon sells for 10,000 yen, equivalent to about $83. It is almost double, or even triple, that of a normal watermelon.

    So a normal watermelon costs $28 in Japan??? I'm guessing they are imported and not common in that country.

  13. Taste by mildness · · Score: 1
    When are they going to engineer the taste back in?

    Bill

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    1. Re:Taste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Taste only matters after you bought it. They don't waste time on it, instead they make things look good to convince you to part with your cash. After that, its your problem.

  14. Easier to prepare? by SoCalChris · · Score: 2, Interesting

    and less troublesome to prepare for consumption

    I never knew it was that hard to cut a watermelon into quarters and put it on a plate.

    1. Re:Easier to prepare? by Morgahastu · · Score: 1

      Its a pain to cut a huge watermelon in quarters and then store the quarters just for a slice or two.

      This is much more convenient.

    2. Re:Easier to prepare? by Jeremiah+Blatz · · Score: 3, Insightful
      and less troublesome to prepare for consumption

      I never knew it was that hard to cut a watermelon into quarters and put it on a plate.

      Umm, hello, an average watermelon weighs 20 pounds. Cutting it up isn't the problem, moving it around is.

      And do you really want to eat 4 pounds of watermelon at a sitting?

    3. Re:Easier to prepare? by danny256 · · Score: 1

      I never knew it was that hard to cut a watermelon into quarters and put it on a plate.
      Umm, hello, an average watermelon weighs 20 pounds. Cutting it up isn't the problem, moving it around is.
      And do you really want to eat 4 pounds of watermelon at a sitting?


      20/4 != 4

    4. Re:Easier to prepare? by thebigmacd · · Score: 1

      You cut it in quarters? Yikes! What do you do, face-plant in the thing? :D Actually I bet you really cut it in 1/8s (three cuts with the knife). 3D really is a killer to comprehend :) Plus, isn't it still kind of hard to eat an eighth of one without face-planting? Up here in Canada we prefer to slice watermelons twice longitudinally then laterally in 1" thick slices. Gives you a 1/4 round slice that is easy to eat.

    5. Re:Easier to prepare? by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      You forgot 1 pound of seeds per quarter ;-)

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    6. Re:Easier to prepare? by Jeremiah+Blatz · · Score: 1
      20/4 != 4

      Silly slashdotter, read the linked article. The average watermelon has 4 pounds of rind. 16/4 = 4

    7. Re:Easier to prepare? by Thuktun · · Score: 1

      20/4 != 4

      Do you normally eat the rind?

    8. Re:Easier to prepare? by danny256 · · Score: 1

      every time

    9. Re:Easier to prepare? by cybermace5 · · Score: 1

      For handheld eating, we halve the melon across its axis, then place the cut side down and slice straight down for wedges. When you can't eat it outside (nighttime, too many mosquitoes, raining, etc.) what works best is to just cut it in big round slices and serve on a plate with a spoon.

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  15. About the same by Doubting+Thomas · · Score: 1

    I saw these at the local market about a month ago, and I impulse bought one. It was a little on the watery side (in other words, the flavor wasn't terribly intense), but then that wasn't exactly the best time of year for watermelon, so it's not exactly a definitive taste test.

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    1. Re:About the same by HamNRye · · Score: 1

      It's density, not size. What you propose would be like assuming a 3 year old has as much blood in them as an adult. They don't. If they did, these mini melons would weigh 20 pounds from holding water, and there would be no room for meat.

    2. Re:About the same by loveaxelrod · · Score: 1

      You misunderstand me, a correct analogy would be to shrink an adult to the size of a 3 year old. Thus they would have the same amount of blood. The process of over-ripening is, I believe, akin to sun drying tomatoes. As the melon ripens it shrinks, but the flesh inside remains - thus there is the same amount of flesh compressed into a smaller space. Flavour, naturally, increases.

  16. Baseball size watermelons in 1975 by n1vux · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Softball sized? much too large.

    We had spherical watermelon seeds ordered from catalog in (circa) 1975. We were on the borderline of their recommended growing climate in Maine, so they grew to merely baseball to softball size by autumn. Tasty, but small -- single-serving size. Many of them fit in my windbreaker pocket, for eating after school while scoring a soccer game. Much amazment from folks who'd never seen a tiny, round watermelon.

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  17. Where's the demand? by metamatic · · Score: 2, Funny

    I would have thought the American consumer would have wanted larger melons. That's the impression I get from The Man Show, anyway.

    Actually, I remember a story on BBC news that some researchers had discovered that women prefer buying smaller melons because it makes them feel less nervous about their chest size.

    Curiously, this psychological phenomenon doesn't seem to stop men buying foot-long hot dogs or subs.

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    1. Re:Where's the demand? by dnahelix · · Score: 1

      Ned Flanders' last words to Maude, "No foot-longs, they make me nervous."

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    2. Re:Where's the demand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      As far as melon scratchers go, that's a real honey doodle!

  18. Bah. by Bowling+Moses · · Score: 2, Funny

    My roomate and I grew a watermellon in our backyard last summer. It was the size of a golfball. Then the slugs ate it--since one slug stayed out in the middle of the yard until midmorning and risked being eaten by the crows it must have been darn tasty. Stupid slugs.

    So, um, take THAT!

  19. The size of Watermelons. by The_dev0 · · Score: 1

    I have seen these at our local Supermarket for about the last 6 months, but only last week my roommate and I bought one. The size was definitely easier to handle (you can just halve it and scoop out the flesh like a grapefruit) and no seeds was nice, but frankly, I didn't think the taste was up to par. My parents have a normal watermelon and the flesh is very sweet with a sugary consistency, but this was quite bland with a stiffer consistency in your mouth. I guess we'll just get used to the sub-par flavour from these in the same way as the tomatoes and bananas we get from the large supermarket chains.

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  20. how do you tell the blue sky from hell by Muhammar · · Score: 1

    How to recognize real news from Public Relation:
    The PR stuff is usualy better written and more funny. The smarter journalist often end up in better-paying jobs at agency, writing the "news" for their lazy colleagues at newspaper.

    I loved the Vons clerk story, though.

    [I may be little paranoid, but that does not mean that nobody is trying to shrink me with these mutant melons]

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  21. Re:FP!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's EXACTLY what I meant to say slashfag.

    Ever since I switched to Linux I've had to coanstantly visit my local LUG's to help with even the most simple tasks.

    All that KY that I'm forced to use to get some help, has really loosened up my stools.

    My nigger nuggets are so soft now that I was asking for someone to iron and starch them so I can go back to haveing my normal tight and tanned popcorn morsels.

  22. Re:Genetic Engineering - Michael Jordan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Selective breeding is why we have Super Athletes the likes of Michael Jordan. Centuries of slavery wherein the strong survived, and bred, have created strong, coordinated black people with good rhythm.

    Unfortunately for a white folks, we group together differently: fat people marry, smart people marry, and athletes marry, and so it is we're developing 3 separate subcultures (the largest one by far being the largest one by far: that fatty's).

    It will be interesting to see where these trends take us.

  23. Monsanto Responds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a related story, Monsanto today announced its patenting of MegaMelanogaster (branded "MegaMel"), a genetically-engineered fruit fly about the size of a Volkswagen. The fly, which was specifically designed to thrive on fruits not under Monsanto patents, has been in field testing just east of San Diego for the past year.

    Heralding both the patent development and the initial results of the field trials. Monsanto spokesperson I.C. Bucks said the company is now positioned to more aggressively police their intellectual property rights. Bucks added that Monsanto has applied to the FDA and the FAA for approval to expand the field tests to include the entire San Diego metropolitan area beginning early next month.

  24. Prior art by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    Duh!!! It's fucking prior art. You can't patent something that has been discovered in nature. That would be like having a patent on atoms. Now, if you engineer a DNA sequence, then you can patten that. Just not the function or creation of something already in existance.

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    1. Re:Prior art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually i read a lil while back about some company copyrighting a bacteria that they found -- yes, FOUND NATURALLY LIVING, IN NATURE AND EVERYTING. Which is idiotic. It's like copyrighting a damned oak tree.

      Hey, we should all throw in together and copyright humans. collect crazy mad royalties on it.. only problem is China's filled with software piracy, and people, and so would be filled with people piracy too. (I kinda like the term 'people piracy'..)

  25. Freeze the leftovers by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    Just cut what you can't eat from a normal watermelon into ice-cube sized pieces and freeze them on a cookie sheet. Place in ziplock bag when they're frozen. Then, later, take a handful of pieces, put them in a blender with some sugar syrup, grenadine, and a dash of salt. Blend and serve - mmmm...

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