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Making Ice Cream With Liquid Nitrogen

JasonMaggini writes "Popular Science has an article on how to whip up a batch of ice cream in 30 seconds or so by using liquid nitrogen. Just the thing for those hot summer days. The article is by Theodore Gray, creator of the ultra-spiffy Periodic Table Table."

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  1. shoot... by LBArrettAnderson · · Score: 5, Funny

    and to think i just spent 30 minutes going to the store to get rock salt...

    1. Re:shoot... by mattyohe · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is why you should subscribe to slashdot, so you can look into the future.

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  2. Now wait a second... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Am I the only one who is worried about shrinkage?

    1. Re:Now wait a second... by Technician · · Score: 3, Funny

      Am I the only one who is worried about shrinkage?
      I would think shrinkage would be the least of your worries.

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  3. Heretics! by supz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Liquid Nitrogen should be used for cooling heavily overclocked CPU's, and that is it!

    None of this ICE CREAM MAKING... makes it look like its for wussies.

    1. Re:Heretics! by gfody · · Score: 4, Funny

      you should be using ice cream to cool your cpu. much better thermal dissipation

      only newbies still use liquid nitrogen

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    2. Re:Heretics! by QuackQuack · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bah! Nothing beats a tall glass of Liquid Nitrogen with a twist of lemon on a hot summer day.

      After I drink it, I cool my CPU by breathing on it. None of this heatsink crap!

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  4. Dippin Dots by Stonent1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's how the ice cream at the dippin dots stands is made. They just put drops of the unfrozen mixture into liquid nitrogen.

    1. Re:Dippin Dots by Surak · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's also another site that talks about the same thing and gives a bit more detailed instructions (like wearing gloves ;).

  5. daily recommended intake by AnimeEd · · Score: 5, Funny

    what's the daily recommended intake for liquid nitrogen?

    1. Re:daily recommended intake by MulluskO · · Score: 3, Funny

      Evil chemists are polluting our air with their careless use of nitrogen!

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  6. the opposite of other fun things by double_plus_ungod · · Score: 2, Funny

    i like setting off thermite reactions.

    playing with liquid nitrogen kind of evens things out.

    1. Re:the opposite of other fun things by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've posted this story before, but I never get tired of it...

      I used to work at a plant that recycled car batteries. We had a machine that that would crush the batteries and dump everything - plastic, sulfuric acid, lead - into a large vat for separation. The plastic would mostly float to the top and be scraped away, the sulfuric acid was drained off into barrels for filtering and recycling and the lead was then rinsed off and placed into a rotating kiln to dry it before being dumped into a huge furnace (dumping wet items into molten lead isn't a really brainy idea).

      So anyways, this meant that we had one big room (airplane hanger kind of big) that always had a layer of diluted sulfuric acid on the floor that was leaking from the vat or dripping from the lead as it was moved into the kiln. We also had huge supplies of all sorts of dangerous chemicals that were used to treat the molten lead and turn it into specific alloys (including Red Phosphorous, Sulfur, Potassium Nitrate, a wonderful alloy from Phizer that contained Calcium, Aluminum and Magnesium (made great Thermite powder!) and everybody's favorite reactive reagent - metallic sodium).

      One day one of the crazy guys who worked on the plant floor invited a couple of us pyro-maniacs from the lab out to see something funny. He opened a 50 gallon drum filled with chunks of sodium and used a knife to cut off a chunk about the size of his fist. We then walked over to the battery crusher room, made sure noone was in blast range and then he threw the sodium overhand right into the center of that giant puddle of dilute sulfuric acid.

      Sodium reacts with water and releases Hydrogen gas and heat. Hydrogen gas is highly flammable and since there is all that excess heat just laying around it tends to ignite and create an instantenous explosion. Sulfuric Acid is even more reactive than water so the reaction occurs even faster and with more heat, so it guarantees an instantaneous loud boom. It performed exactly as expected, and gallons of dilute sulfuric acid were thrown in all directions (now before anyone complains, this was a very safe plant where everyone wore flame retardent clothing, asbestos gloves, respirators, safety glasses, full headphone style hearing protection and hard hats with full face shields, there was no immediate danger to anyone nearby and there was noone nearby), plus there was the loudest explosion I've ever heard.

      One of my favorite memories of working at that place... Well that and the idiot who managed to get red phosphorous, sulfur and potassium nitrate dust all over his gloves and then tried to wipe the dust off on his shirt. He apparently didn't pay attention in chemistry class the day they discussed how 'strike-anywhere' match heads are made.

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  7. Baked Alaska by pyro_peter_911 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you substitute liquid oxygen for the liquid nitrogen you could be having baked alaska in 30 seconds.

    Peter

  8. There is another idea... by thanq · · Score: 3, Funny

    My older folks used to tell me about how poor people in Eastern Europe were after the WWII under Soviet occupation. Since some of them could not afford glasses or mugs, they would often put a teabag in their mouth and they would drink water warmed up in the sun.
    So now, I guess they can also enjoy ice cream by putting all the ingredients in their mouths and then pouring the liquid...... uhmm.... never mind...

    1. Re:There is another idea... by conway · · Score: 5, Informative
      This is silly, and not true, since there was no concept of a "teabag" in Eastern Europe.
      People made tea from tea essense.

      What people did do is to put a lump of sugar into their mouth as they were drinking the tea -- instead of putting it into the tea.
      This was more of a matter of personal preference than desire to save sugar (although there was a little bit of both -- sugar was often given out via ration cards)

    2. Re:There is another idea... by jfmiller · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually...

      Due to the Leidenfrost effect this might actually work, but it also might cause loss of teeth (seen it) tongue (seen pictures) or stomic (don't want to know).

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    3. Re:There is another idea... by aug24 · · Score: 2, Funny
      I can personally vouch that dipping an orange segment in LN for thirty seconds and then attempting to eat it is not sensible. Not even on a hot day.

      I was young... I was foolish... I was in the lab...

      J.

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  9. Re:w00t! by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Time for some Terminator Ice Cream!

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  10. Dippin' Dots by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is the exact process that Dippin' Dotsuses to make ice cream in little tiny spheres (about 2-5 mm across).

    The process was determined around 1988 by Curt Jones (a biologist interested in cryogenics...the science of freezing...not cryonics, the science of "Disney on Ice"). He started his company and now you can get Dippin' Dots everywhere from malls to theme parks.

    You might even be able to catch a rerun of the FoodTV show, Unwrapped, where they discuss the manufacturing process. It's show #CWSP11 and it'll air again at these times.

    PS - Yes, I know Walt Disney isn't actually frozen....but Teddy Ballgame is.

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    1. Re:Dippin' Dots by johnpelster · · Score: 2, Informative

      A guy had one of these booths in Hood River, OR for the Apple Festival. The texture is very interesting... much different from ice cream, but it's A LOT of fun to eat. :)

  11. Liquid nitrogen and soda by Linknoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I was about 10, we went on vacation with a group of people that happened to have a lot of doctors. These doctors happened to have easy access to liquid nitrogen for medical reasons. They brought a couple huge containers of liquid nitrogen, and we took sodas and dipped them in with a string for a couple seconds. Nice and slushy :-)

  12. For those who want more... by HornyBastard77 · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:For those who want more... by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2, Funny

      yeah, I really want to read a link of things to do with liquid nitrogen posted by a guy called "HornyBastard77"

  13. My recipe by Ost99 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've done this with some friends just last week. It looks quite scary, espesially when the physics buffs start putting the liquid nitrogen in their mouth.

    To do this right you need to use more than 30 sec if you do it by hand like we did.
    Use 2 eggs, and 0.6L of cream and mix in a bowl.
    Chop one 100g dark chocolate bar and mix with the rest.
    Add 0.1 L Irish Cream.
    Whip it all together while someone pours a small stream of liquid nitrogen into the bowl.
    Don't do it to fast (30 sec will give you large frozen lumps...).

    When the ice starts to get thick enough, stop pouring nitrogen and put the lid back on the nitrogen container. You can play some more with it *after* you have eaten your ice-cream.

    This would be a great idea for a bussines, set up a stall near a beach and sell on-the-fly real ice-cream to tourists. $5 a cup, the show is for free!

    - Ost

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    1. Re:My recipe by J.+Random+Software · · Score: 2, Informative

      One man told such a story to the Darwin Awards folks....

    2. Re:My recipe by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At a science demo at our local college when I was young, one of the profs was demoing quickly dipping their fingers into liquid nitrogen.

      I asked nicely and he let me try as well...

      Pretty cool (no pun intended). With a short immersion of only an inch or two, your fingers are so hot compared to the liquid nitrogen that it boils from your skin temperature and forms a vapour barrier that keeps the liquid from touching you. In comparison, think of a few drops of regular tap water hitting a frying pan that's 200c - it vaporizes so fast that it just hops around the surface.

      Naturally, if you leave your fingers in too long, the extreme cold will cool your skin down, allowing the liquid to touch you, which is bad. But for only a second or two, no problem.

      There was also the story about another university prof who would put some in his mouth and blow it out. I also recall another story (unrelated?) about someone doing this and when blowing it out, blew it out over their teeth, causing a thermal contraction that cracked a few. Nasty.

      Still, I want to get some - Just have to convince the suppliers that I'm not going crazy with it, I just wanna play and make some ice cream too :).

      N.

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    3. Re:My recipe by apraetor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yea, it happened at WPI a couple years ago.. here's the press release.

      --matt

  14. fun with sodium by evenprime · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm much more impressed with his experiments with sodium

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  15. Good old days at Los Alamos by WatertonMan · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Ah, the good old days at Los Alamos. We used to get spare containers of liquid nitrogen and have big ice cream parties.

    Tips (haven't read the article yet, so some of these might be redundant) -

    - make sure you have good ventilation.
    Nitrogen can fill the room and will push out the good air.

    - don't use a regular blender.
    Unless you have a heavy duty egg beater the nitrogen will be freezing the ice cream mix so fast that you'll bust the motor. Use a heavy duty one and then switch over to a large metal spoon.

    - good ingredents count.
    Use good cream. Add powdered milk for the extra protein. (I like adding a little bit of high quality protein that I use while working out) We used fresh dates, strawberries or whatever. If you use vanilla don't use that crappy stuff. Good vanilla is well worth the price - sort of like good basalmic vinegar. Once you've had the real deal the stuff supermarkets sell tastes like crap.

    - Invite a bunch of friends.
    It's a great party. Do the typical physics/chemistry tricks with the remaining liquid nitrogen. The shattering tomatoe or fake hand in the nitrogen tricks are always classics.

  16. Uhm by jabbadabbadoo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do not try this at home. You might get fat.

    1. Re:Uhm by IICV · · Score: 4, Funny

      You do realize that this is Slashdot, right? Getting fat is not a problem, it's the general condition.

    2. Re:Uhm by jabbadabbadoo · · Score: 3, Funny

      But understanding irony seems to be a problem :-)

    3. Re:Uhm by Myco · · Score: 2, Funny

      Uh, yeah. You do understand that this is Slashdot, right?

  17. Re:LOX? by red+floyd · · Score: 5, Funny

    I doubt it. A buddy told me about the stuff they used to do at CalTech...

    DISCLAIMER: My buddy may have been shitting me...

    He said they used to freeze frogs in liquid N2 and throw them against the wall to shatter. Then they'd put it in the wastebasket, and get a kick out of the reaction the stink got from the next sucker to enter the room.

    One day, he said, a guy didn't have any N2, so he used LOX instead. It reacted with the volatiles in the frog and blew out the wall when they threw it.

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  18. Another cooking idea from popular mechanics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't wait till they publish the instructions on roasting a turkey using a fusion reactor.

  19. BTDT... Industrial Process Using LN2 & sonicat by SkewlD00d · · Score: 4, Informative

    This page clearly shows they're already doing this in an industrial setting. Also, there's something called "sonication" that uses sound to make small particles of ice cream intermediate & pre-products of a powder-like consistency. And those ice-cream "dots" that are sold at malls are just ice cream mixture drops frozen in LN2.

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  20. Prior art on the Web with video and pictures by kuknalim · · Score: 4, Informative
  21. tried it years back -- unimpressed by dummkopf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    there are two problems with making icecream with liquid nitrogen: first, you cannot buy nitrogen at 7-11, you need to either work in a lab or have a friend who does (the latter being my case). second, good icecream is generated by continous stirring of the stuff while it slowly freezes. in this fashion the batch freezes in a polycristalline state and not in one giant single-crystal slab. this is very important as good icecram is supposed to smooth in texture and not "icy". it is almos impossible to do this with the liquid nitrogen version because things freeze too fast. from my experience i have learned that the best ice cream maker is made by KRUPS: stick the bowl into the freezer overnight (or into liquid nitrogen if you want to speed things up!) and enjoy a full batch the next day of the flavors you like. of course you could run into the store and buy some icecream, but do you know what is in that stuff?

  22. Saw this YEARS ago at the Iowa State Fair by netblade83 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Technology to do this was invented by Iowa State University a few years back, as referenced here: http://www.nitroicecream.com/company%20history.htm .. nothing new.... i must say, damn good ice cream

  23. Extermination by conway · · Score: 2, Funny

    My dad works as a scientist in a lab, and has easy access to liquid nitrogen.
    Some time ago we had a family of mice decide to take up residence behind our bookcases. My dad decided to take the easy way out (vs. moving the bookcase) and bring some nitrogen to flush them out.
    After pouring 1/2 a thermos behind the bookcase, there was lots of smoke and commotion from behind the bookcase, but the next day the mice returned!
    I guess they didn't mind it too much -- it must have dissolved too quickly to do them any real damage :)

  24. Re:Sweet! by PaulBu · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, reminds me of a story which happened in our cryoelectronics lab, back in Moscow State University (Russia). OK, some guys bought frozen dumplings ("pelmeni", for those who know... ;-) ), and were not sure if they will not thaw by the time they get home, so they just poured a liter or two of LN over. Well, the next thing we've heard about those was half a week (!) later when the dumplings finally thawed enought to be separated and cooked... (pre-microwave oven days ;-) )

    Paul B.

  25. Recipie from the lab by gessel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've done this - it's fun and impresses the girls, but harder in an office/lab than in a well stocked kitchen.

    Once my girlfriend was visiting me at work and I was stuck late while I was finishing some experiments. The kitchenette was stocked with only the usual bad coffee gear--ultra-pasteurized cream cups and sugar packets and bad coffee--and she was restless and hungry. I asked if she wanted some ice cream and she thought I was teasing.

    So I took one of the vacuum insulated coffee carafes and filled it dramatically with LN2 from roll-around dewar in the lab (any time you crack the liquid feed on one of those things its pretty dramatic with the hissing and the steam and the gurgling and the spattering, dancing beads of LN2). As an aside, vacuum insulated coffee carafes filled with LN2 will hold it for more than a day.

    I carried it boiling and fogging back to the kitchenette as she followed at a more than safe distance. I found a plastic bowl in the sink and filled it with the contents of about 100 of those little ultra-pasteurized coffee creamers and about 100 packets of sugar, brewed up a fresh pot of coffee and skimmed the first few seconds worth off - when it actually has some flavor and added it to the bowl. She looked mighty dubious, but the glass liner had cooled enough that the carafe didn't seem dangerous any more so she moved in to watch.

    Then while I stirred the mixture with a plastic spoon (and, don't forget - while wearing the bright blue cryogenic safety gloves and full face shields) she poured in the LN2 which filled the bowl with dense fog that poured out, over the counter, and down around our ankles, spreading out across the floor, looking for all the world like a bad sci-fi movie.

    In about 30 seconds we had a bowl of half decent coffee ice cream to share.

    And, for just a little while, she thought being a geek was really cool...

    1. Re:Recipie from the lab by Ciderx · · Score: 2, Funny

      > she poured in the LN2 which filled the bowl with dense fog that poured out, over the counter, and down around our ankles, spreading out across the floor...

      Easy there, its starting to sound like an erotic story....

    2. Re:Recipie from the lab by lobsterGun · · Score: 2, Funny

      Aren't stories like this supposed to start: "Dear Penthouse Forum. I never thought this would happent to me but..." ...and end up a little spicier?

  26. Let's party! by djupedal · · Score: 2, Funny

    Get this guy, and that college professor that can cook a ham in 1.15 seconds and we are down!

  27. Where does one get liquid nitrogen? by mrsam · · Score: 5, Funny

    The obvious question that I have, immediately after reading this story, is how exactly an average Joe-sixpack goes about obtaining a sufficient quantity of liquid nitrogen?

    This whole thing sounds very interesting, but I don't think I can go into your average supermarket store and ask for some liquid nitrogen:

    "Hello, I'd like a loaf of bread, Cheerios, and a gallon of your best liquid nitrogen. And, uh, a few grams of plutonium. I need it for my flux capacitor."

    1. Re:Where does one get liquid nitrogen? by kaszeta · · Score: 4, Informative
      The short answer is, you can't.

      The more correct short answer is that you easily can.

      LN2 is not a controlled substance. In most any area, it's simply a matter of opening up the phone book and finding a gas supplier. Many welding gas and medical gas companies provide it, and most sell to the public, and those that don't usually don't because they are set up to deal with businesses through purchase orders.

      I only know the suppliers for the places I've lived---Praxair in St Paul, MN, and Merriam Graves in western NH, but both will happily sell you bulk dry ice, LN2, various gases in bottles, etc. I've done it at both places. Just be prepared to leave a *large* deposit on the LN2 dewar. If they ask too many questions tell 'em you're an artist (artists, especially those that weld, buy the freakiest damn things at times). And the LN2 ain't cheap, either. Depending on the supplier be prepared for between $80 and $200/dewar. (Although I guess if you compare it it's probably cheaper per volume than beer...)

      Then again, due to the massive number of LN2 dewars I use at work, I'm on a first name basis with Merriam Graves' delivery guy...

      But to go back to the comments of the guy I'm responding to...don't mess around with this stuff without thinking about it. It's real easy to burn yourself (wear eye shields), it easily splatters since it boils upon contacting most anything, etc.

  28. N2 vs N2O ? by squidinkcalligraphy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    N2O (nitrous oxide) is used to make instant whipped cream - in a pressurised state it dissolves in fat, so when the pressure is released, it expands in the cream, causing it to go light and fluffy. I'm wondering if N2 might have a similar effect, making the icecream lighter and fluffier than it might normally be? Solubility of N2 in fat? It's non-polar so it should dissolve, no?

    Unfortunately N2 don't have the same effect as N2O when inhaled |-)

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    1. Re:N2 vs N2O ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Dunno if LN2 causes a fluffy ice cream like the N2O + cream = whipped cream, but N2 GAS (not LN2) is used for Guiness beer, and ABSOLUTELY gives it a much creamier head than normal CO2 does. (Actually, the gas they use is a mix between CO2 and N2.) I brew my own beer and recently have started using a mixture of CO2 and N2 gas for my Stout beers. It's a LOT better than plain old CO2, partially because the high concentration of N2 in normal air is much higher than CO2, and thus the N2 suds don't escape the beer as fast. Or so I'm told. All I know for SURE is that it tastes good. ;-)

  29. This is news? by Feztaa · · Score: 2, Informative

    Gimme a break. Science camps all over the continent have been doing this for years. It's easy:

    1. Get cream
    2. Add liquid nitrogen, which freezes the cream then evaporates
    3. You've got ice cream.

    1. Re:This is news? by nacturation · · Score: 2, Funny

      You missed a couple steps:

      1. Get cream
      2. Add liquid nitrogen, which freezes the cream then evaporates
      3. You've got ice cream.
      4. ???
      5. PROFIT!

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  30. Re:seen this on tv. by jfengel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The goal of ice cream is to make the ice crystals really small. Big ice crystals feel grainy in your mouth. Ice cream should be smooth.

    Ordinarily, you achieve that by stirring the ice cream constantly. With liquid NO2, you achieve the same effect by freezing everything before the crystals have a chance to grow.

    So yeah, you do get better ice cream this way.

    There's also a lot less air whipped into it. For my taste, there's too little; a spoonful has too much "cold" in it to really taste it. Since it has more ice cream and less air, you get more mass in a spoonful, and thus more cold. But that's all a matter of taste; that's exactly what Ben and Jerry make all their money at. A little goes a long way.

  31. Re:Theodore Gray - Renaissance man by ashitaka · · Score: 2, Funny

    Which is grammatically correct. You do read English I assume?

    Phrased another way: "It would be just so cool if everyone could write like that Theodore dude."

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  32. Heh! I wonder if they... by mtec · · Score: 2, Funny

    used liquid nitrogen to keep the server from melting when this got posted...

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  33. Cryogenic Barbeque by voidptr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Add that to the Liquid Oxygen Grill and you've got yourself one cool party. Main course, desert, and pyrotechnic entertainment all in one.

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  34. Gargling by LauraW · · Score: 5, Interesting
    what's the daily recommended intake for liquid nitrogen?

    I'm nots ure, but a professor I knew at Northwestern sometimes gargled with liquid nitrogen to impress people during "chemistry day" type demos. Supposedly if you keep exhaling and moving the stuff around in your mouth, the air is enough of an insulator to keep from freezing your tongue off.

    I had lots of fun working as a programmer in an organic chem lab there. When we needed a break from coding, we'd go invent weird chemistry demos or throw defective glassware against the wall. I don't think I'll ever try the liquid nitrogen gargling, though.

    -- Laura

    1. Re:Gargling by johannesg · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I've read one account of a person who regularly gargled with that stuff, until one day he cracked a tooth...

      Having said that, I worked in a place where liquid nitrogen (LN2) was used to cool the drinks during parties (it was dumped into a large volume of water which contained the bottles; the drinks would freeze if you put the bottles directly into the nitrogen).

      Actually it was kinda cool: I was working in an office almost directly below three huge LN2 tanks, containing about 160,000 liters of the stuff. You remember that scene from James Bond where the programmer screams "I'm *invincible*" before being hit by a wave of LN2 and shattering? I always feared that would happen to me if I ever made a deadline ;-)

      Anyway, that was my excuse for being chronically late ;-)

    2. Re:Gargling by KjetilK · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've read one account of a person who regularly gargled with that stuff, until one day he cracked a tooth...

      I've done that many times at parties. It is cool in every way you can think of... :-) My teeth are OK...

      Not risk-free of course, and you don't want to get that stuff down in the stomach... :-)

      I do things like firewalking (had a world record once, 165 feet, and btw, I think the current listed record is invalid), sticking the hand in molten lead, bed-of-nails, etc.

      Icecream is great BTW, it's something the physics department always hands out when it tries to attract potential students...

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    3. Re:Gargling by The+Fink · · Score: 2, Funny
      Actually it was kinda cool
      Yes. Yes, I'm sure it was. Liquid nitrogen's damn cold, in fact...

  35. Magic Screwdrivers by voidptr · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) Take cooler of LNO2
    2) Suspend an ice cube tray full of vodka in it.
    3) Add resulting alcohol cubes to a glass of OJ
    4) Profit!! (or something...)

    The alcohol won't freeze at temperatures designed to make normal ice, but the liquid nitrogen is cold enough to make the liquor freeze. No more worrying about the ice dilluting your drink, as it melts the drink becomes stronger.

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  36. Not Impressed... by mythosaz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Show me the guy making liquid nitrogen from ice cream, and then we'll talk.

  37. Everything you need for summer cookouts by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2, Funny

    Liquid nitrogen to make the ice cream, and liquid oxygen to start the barbeque :-)

  38. Re:more things with liquid nitrogen by arivanov · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Frozen stakes and hamburgers in a cantene are an even better idea. We used to do it at the Uni. All you need is an unsuspecting victim that has forgotten to pick up a fork, a knife or a napkin. As a result you have your 30 secs and when the poor sod comes back his meal is frozen solid and steaming water vapour.

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  39. Re:Theodore Gray - Renaissance man by Dahan · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's called the subjunctive. See also, "be that as it may ..."

  40. Leidenfrost by reverseengineer · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm not sure, but a professor I knew at Northwestern sometimes gargled with liquid nitrogen to impress people during "chemistry day" type demos.

    What happens there is the Leidenfrost effect in action- the temperature inside your mouth is well above the boiling point of liquid nitrogen (77K, -196 degC, -321 degF, 138.6 degR), so that when the liquid contacts your mouth, a very small amount of it quickly boils off, and creates a layer of vapor between the remaining liquid and the flesh of your mouth. This vapor layer acts as an insulation blanket, allowing you to consume small quantities of liquid nitrogen without flash-freezing your palate.

    The Leidenfrost effect is also sometimes demonstrated by wetting your hand with water, and then briefly plunging your hand into a container of molten lead. The same principle applies, as the lead is above the Leidenfrost point of water, so the water will form a vapor layer around your hand that insulates it from the molten lead. As much as I would like to believe that since the same principle applies, this is just as safe as brief exposure to LN2, I'm rather reluctant to try this.

    Also, molten lead is a lot harder to come by, for me anyway, than liquid nitrogen- I work at UIUC's helium liquefier, so there's up to 5000 gallons of LN2 right outside the window (used both for providing to research groups and for the helium liquefier itself), and LN2 hoses on the wall. I'm generally pretty cautious with the stuff though- it does sting when it contacts bare skin, and as labels on the dewars often remind me, pure nitrogen DOES NOT SUPPORT LIFE, so you want to make sure that if you use large quantities (and the 220L dewars some groups have qualify) in a ventilated area. I've personally not found working with liquid nitrogen to be very dangerous- it's certainly less dangerous than some of the stuff used in an organic chemistry lab.

    I remember the lab manual intro for a chemiluminescence/phosphoresence experiment that used things like polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons and the solvent DMSO (which isn't terribly toxic by itself, but can be absorbed through the skin, and has a nasty tendency to take other compounds with it), that had a warning that went something like: "Most of the reagents and solvents used in this lab are toxic, flammable, carcinogenic, mutagenic, teratogenic, or some combination thereof." LN2 and LHe are just really, really cold.

    Anyway, I've had liquid nitrogen ice cream a number of times before- it tends to be a perennial favorite of many of the science-oriented clubs on campus, as well as a popular demonstration at the annual Engineering Open House- some ChemE's mixed some up this year- using LN2 I poured for them the day before, which was sweet. The ice cream is usually pretty good, IMO. The consistency can be rather variable, and it isn't as good as cranked homemade stuff, but hey- I'm not going to pass up free ice cream.

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    1. Re:Leidenfrost by G-funk · · Score: 4, Interesting

      allowing you to consume small quantities of liquid nitrogen without flash-freezing your palate.

      Er, no... This does not allow you to consume it... You can hold a bit in your mouth, but if you swallow it you will most likely die unless you can get right to a hospital very quickly, as it closes the entrance to your stomach and then proceeds to turn into nitrogen, which funnily enough takes up quite a bit more space than liquid nitrogen.

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    2. Re:Leidenfrost by Sheriff+Fatman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      See http://www.darwinawards.com/personal/personal2000- 25.html for what claims to be the world's only documented case of cryogenic ingestion.

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    3. Re:Leidenfrost by Repton · · Score: 2, Informative

      reverseengineer wrote: The Leidenfrost effect is also sometimes demonstrated by wetting your hand with water, and then briefly plunging your hand into a container of molten lead. The same principle applies, as the lead is above the Leidenfrost point of water, so the water will form a vapor layer around your hand that insulates it from the molten lead.

      If memory serves, Richard Feynman did this as a kid.

      Then, when he was older (early twenties, say), he was telling some friends of his about it, but they didn't believe a word of it.

      So there was nothing for it but to get some molten lead and give a demonstration.

      Unfortunately, what he failed to realise was that, in the intervening years he had passed through puberty and grown a lot more hairs on the back of his hands. The hairs acted like wicks, and so it hurt like hell.

      (of course, afterwards, his hands were quite bald again)

      (at least, that's the way I remember the story.. It's probably in Surely You're Joking, Mr Feynman!. Even if it's not, I highly recommend reading that book anyway. It's a great (nontechnical) read).

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    4. Re:Leidenfrost by KjetilK · · Score: 2, Informative
      Cool! Yep, it is true, you really shouldn't swallow... Liquid Nitrogen expands extremely quickly, you would indeed be in deep trouble if you do... But I've gargled it many times. It's fun.

      I'm surprised by two things by this: One is that he even managed to swallow, I haven't really tried, but my experience is that it boils extremely fast, and I would think it would be very hard to do that.

      The other surprising thing is that he wasn't more seriously injured, or indeed that he lived to tell about it...

      BTW Nobel Prize winner Douglas Osheroff told me he actually lets that stuff go far down his throat.

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    5. Re:Leidenfrost by reverseengineer · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Yes, you're right- I should have been more specific when I wrote "small quanitities." Due to the possibility of tooth damage, I'd never put more than a few milliliters into my mouth anyway. As for swallowing the stuff, I probably deserve a -1 Imprecise Use of Language for using the word "consume" when I meant more along the lines of "let it evaporate, inhale/exhale fog"(though you should also be careful with this-"DOES NOT SUPPORT LIFE" and all). As far as I can remember, I don't think I've swallowed the stuff, and if I had, it would have been a matter of a few droplets.

      You're absolutely right with the whole expansion thing, though- according to some quick and dirty calculations I just did, a scant 10mL of LN2 would expand to about 7.3 liters at body temperature, which certainly might cause problems. For a comparision, the average volume of a human stomach is about 1 liter. Ouch.

      I'd like to know more about the whole "it closes the entrance to your stomach" thing though. Elsewhere in this /. discussion I came acorss mention of the 2000 Darwin Awards Personal Account of a college student who required hospitalization after taking a "shot" of LN2. Now, once I again, I can see how this would be a problem- assuming he actually swallowed somewhere around 1 fluid ounce (29mL) of LN2, the end result could be over 20L of ultracold gas in his digestive tract, which would probably have a deleterious effect. In the story, though, it mentions that it's his epiglottis that keeps the gas trapped, but I'm not sure that I buy that- the epiglottis is not some sort of one-way valve- frankly, all three of the normally encountered phases of matter can return up the esophagus if the situation demands it, which becomes clear if you burp, or have occasion to pray to the porcelain deity. I don't doubt that's it's possible that LN2 could cause the digestive tract to seal up at prevent the escape of gas, but I am curious as to the mechanism of how this happens.

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    6. Re:Leidenfrost by Idarubicin · · Score: 4, Informative
      Feynman's story comes from Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman. As a boy, he would do science demos for friends and family.

      The specific trick to which you allude involves dipping your hand in water and then quickly in benzene. The two liquids are pretty much insoluble in one another, so a (somewhat spotty) layer of water remains between your hand and the benzene layer. If you ignite the benzene, most of it doesn't burn in contact with the skin, and the water with its high specific heat soaks up most of the heat of combustion, so it doesn't hurt--in principle.

      Feynman discovered that as an adult, the hairs on his hands would wick the benzene down into direct contact with his skin...and hurt like hell.

      The high specific and latent heats of water permit a number of amusing tricks. For example, you can boil water over an open flame in a paper cup. The boiling water absorbs heat from the paper cup, keeping it at a warm (but nowhere near combusting) 100 C.

      You can also mix roughly equal parts water and isopropyl alcohol to obtain a solution that will burn, but doesn't damage most inanimate materials. Again, the big latent heat of vaporization of water soaks up almost all of the heat generated by the combustion of the alcohol. You can soak a large-denomination bill in this stuff and 'burn' it. Hint: test the solution on something disposable, first. ;)

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  41. Obligatory Homer Simpson Quote by detritus. · · Score: 4, Funny

    Homer: 30 Seconds? But I want it now!

  42. Liquid Nitrogen by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can see how this would work ..... I have an electric ice-cream maker that works by freezing a container {thin conductive aluminium pan inside plastic bowl containing brine, giving a nice high thermal mass} in the deep freezer overnight, then an electric motor stirs the mixture continuously to prevent lump formation {which would ruin the texture}.

    The place I used to work at actually had a liquid-nitrogen-cooled test chamber. Unfortunately, the plumbing did not seem to include a drain valve, otherwise I might have been tempted to help myself to some {if you are going to do this, BTW, drill a small hole in the stopper and cup of your flask so that there is no chance for pressure to build up}. Best demo I've seen was to pour some liquid mercury into a hammer head mould, dip in a stick to act as handle, freeze, and knock in several big nails. Bet they wouldn't be allowed to do that nowadays ..... Also, since nitrogen boils at a lower temperature than oxygen, you can use it to distill oxygen from the air. Liquid nitrogen is cool, but liquid oxygen is hot stuff!

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  43. Wot? by commodoresloat · · Score: 3, Funny

    That Dippin' Dots site wanted to set a cookie.

    This is getting me hungry.

  44. goddamnit by thedbp · · Score: 2, Funny

    and i thought i was cool when i dropped a V8 engine into my Snoopy Sno Cone Maker! back to the drawing board ...

  45. See another vid of this by lateralus · · Score: 2, Informative

    at /etc (fun with liquid hydrogen) in Realplayer format. The same guys that host the Geeks In Space shows.

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  46. Safety first... by jridley · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's a quick rundown of liquid nitrogen safety points. Get some liquid nitrogen, have fun; we've been making ice cream and much more for years. Just read this first and be safe.

    http://www.isber.org/pdfs/karpinski.pdf

  47. LOX works fine too by jridley · · Score: 2, Funny

    LOX is a good substitute, and you can do a lot more cool things with it.

    Contrary to popular belief, although you should treat it with respect, LOX does not instantly cause everything to become explosive. Someone at one of our LOX ice cream events once held a blowtorch on some ice cream; it just singed the outside a bit.

  48. Re:Start your grill by Cowculator · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't know about you, but I like lOX best on bAGELS...

  49. There's a Company Doing This by mistermund · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.nitroicecream.com/

    They exhibited at the IAAPA Convention last November. The stuff was excellent - very smooth.

    The machine used a large tank of liquid nitrogen, and basically worked by spurting ice cream mixture into a bucket, then spraying it with the nitro. Repeat the process 100 times or so, and you've got 5 gallons of the stuff.

  50. Photo by cameleon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Photo of dutch physics students doing exactly this: clicky here

  51. Leidenfrost effect by nlaporte · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A bunch of people have been commenting on the professor who used to gargle LN2. The man's name was Jearl Walker, author of The Flying Circus of Physics, who published an excellent essay describing exactly how to do it. He also talks about dipping your hand in molten lead, as well as walking on fire. He is the one who mentioned that when you let the LN2 touch your teeth, they crack.

  52. Introducing... the Chumsicle??? by SolemnDragon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or maybe we'll go with the Simpsons "chocolate Cod..." (a chocolate covered cod on a stick...) But does anybody remember sesame street from about 24 years ago, they had descriptions of the character's favourite flavours and oscar the grouch chose "Anchovy and pickle"? My mum never made ice cream again after we watched that. Not only did we request all of theirs, including the birdseed one (not to parents out there, if your kids ask for this use vanilla with shelled sunflower seeds) but we started telling her the flavours WE wanted... (Peanut butter and jam, blueberry/cinnamon, pancake and butter and syrup and sausage, and our best never-made flavour, the "banana split" one that we wanted to use: orange 'jello' powder, red food colouring, nuts, bananas, and mum's homemade beef stew.) Hey, I was three, my sister was four, we figured it would work. Mum flat-out refused, and started making layered juice popsicles instead.

  53. Holy brain freeze... by ZorMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just dont eat it in 30 seconds too, thatd be bad news.

  54. Dry Ice by sahonen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was on the fog crew for a show once, and we had a huge freezer full of dry ice to play with... Muwhahahahaha. Many of the things you can do with LN2 can also be done with dry ice, though dry ice is pretty hot compared to liquid nitrogen, plus of course, the obvious difference that it's solid instead of liquid. My favorite trick was at one point in the show someone came to collect some pellets to put in a pot that was supposed to look like it was burning incense... I just reached into the pellet bag and grabbed the pellets and gave them to her. If you kinda juggle them in your hands you can actually keep yourself from getting burnt. We also put pellets in soda, and after we drank the slushies, filled the soda bottles with water, inhaled the vapors (note: Carbon Dioxide is a waste gas of the body, and breathing it in will keep oxygen from entering your body! We had a guy get pretty light-headed after a session of this), and watched as a 7 cm^3 pellet could freeze 100 mL of room temperature water, that's how cold they are. If you have a drink that's lost its fizz, you can actually carbonate it by putting in dry ice, because carbonation is actually carbon dioxide (which dry ice is the frozen form of) dissolved in the liquid. If you want it to stay liquid, though, you should only put in small flakes at a time, as large pellets will cause the drink to freeze around the pellet, or turn into a slushie.

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  55. Re:Good for crowds by sahonen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Get in a car wreck, heh... "Hey officer, I saw the whole thing, the car crashed, that stuff in the back spilled on him, and now he's over there...And there...And there..."

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  56. Re:LOX? by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
    >> [ frog + LN2 = shatter. frog + LOX = boom ]
    > Frog bomb!

    Frogdor the Burninator!

  57. liquid nitrogen, ice cream, frozen bananas by flowerbear · · Score: 2, Funny

    yes liquid nitrogen is great for freezing things, bananas, rose petals. warts, small furry animals(THIS IS A JOKE!) as an undergrad i was an assistant in the chemistry lab and was able to do a vast amount of "experimenting" with liquid nitrogen and sometimes with liquid He(you can freeze soap bulbes with it!) although it is somewhat expensive. of course sometimes the chemistry professor would ask about our monthly liquid nitrogen expenses and would explain at 77K it evaporates very quickly(;>>).
    after spending about nine years in college(better than working for a living) i paid a visit to my old chem professor and he mentioned to his then lab assistant that i was one of his best students but not to let me anywhere near his liquid nitrogen. i guess i was not a very good liar or a thief.

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  58. More suggestions... by bargonzo · · Score: 2

    Is this where I tell the "cooking hot dogs in the radar waveguide story?"

    Some more tips for those who might wish to try the LN2 ice cream...

    * We prefer to pour the LN2 into the ice cream ingredients - use a small stream and go slowly, it will really froth up of you don't. We typically use a plastic cooler and a _huge_ wooden spoon.

    * Definately use good ingredients. The best we ever made was with fresh mango purrie - yum!

    * If you do the "dippin dots" method, where you drop the liquid ingredients into the LN2, be sure to let them "warm up" before eating. You'll freeze yer waggle off if not...

    * When we're done with the ice cream, the left over LN2 almost always goes into the pool. The kids love to swim in the fog that it creats. Just make sure that they are far enough away from the pour, as some splashes do occur.

    * 10 Liters usually handls a party of 40 people or so...

    Cheers,

  59. Re:more things with liquid nitrogen by chiefthe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My dorm made N2 ice cream all the time during rvsh.

    One time the kid who was handling the N2 dumped some on the floor to impress the frosh. I got a few droplets in my socks, where it proceeded to burn my skin.

    I've never removed a pair of sock so fast.

    The dots it left were kind of neat, though, and actually included the texture of the fabric.

    Another cool thing we did was put marshmellows in N2. Since there is so much sugar in the marshmellows, they don't get that cold, and you can pop them right in your mouth. They have the texture of a Lucky Charms marshmellow, but are cold, and a lot more fun to eat.

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  60. My orange sherbet recipe by Rorschach1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Developed this one myself - it's quicker and easier than ice cream and it's very good.

    2 cups low-pulp orange juice
    1 cup sugar

    Mix sugar and orange juice. In a large wooden or plastic bowl (metal sticks too much), slowly stir in liquid nitrogen until the desired consistency is reached.

    I'd also recomment using a wooden spoon. I used a hand mixer once, and due to the low viscosity of liquid nitrogen, it spewed droplets everywhere.

    One of these days I want to try making deep-fried liquid nitrogen ice cream. My goal is to get an 800 degree F temperature span in the making of the stuff.

    Remember, be careful with the LN2. It's easy to over-freeze stuff. I once got my tongue stuck to a frozen banana, and it was rather painful.

  61. Re:Showering by ikkonoishi · · Score: 2, Funny

    That sounds like the beginning of some sort of superhero origins story.

  62. Re:Showering by dargaud · · Score: 2, Funny
    > That sounds like the beginning of some sort of superhero origins story.

    Didn't work for me though... Or if it did, I must have been pretty dumb and weak before !

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