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USB 1.1 Renumbered To USB 2?
Teese writes "According to this Bangkok Post article, in December the USB Forum renamed USB 1.1 to USB 2, and USB 2 stayed as USB 2. They did this because consumers were demanding that the computers they buy have USB2 on board. The story also claims that both Sony & toshiba have released laptops with the USB2 that is really USB1.1. This was the first I had heard of this and the article said the change took place in December, has the USB Forum really been able to pull a fast one on us?"
To help the public grasp this subtle distinction USB 2, which was the old USB 1.1, would have ``Full Speed'' added to its title and USB 2, which was USB 2, would have ``Hi-Speed'' added.
It sounds like whomever came up with this idea was possibly "on speed".
Mike
In related news, Webster's Dictionary has altered the spelling of "Fraud," to be more in line with its common use as "Advertising". The two entries have been merged under this same name despite maintaining two distinct definitions under the hood.
Any spoon would be too big.
It's just easier to get modded up on /. if you bash MS once or twice, regardless of what you're talking about. Microsoft sucks.
~Berj
A simple, easy-to-follow guide to the changes.
USB 1.1 is now USB 2. USB 2 is now USB 2.
For some odd reason, they thought that people might have difficulty understanding this, and therefore created the "High Speed" and "Full Speed" designators, to make things even easier to understand.
Wait...
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suwain_2
Pi redefined as 3,
1 redefined as 0,
and
10 redefined as 27.
Sigh....
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
Why do I get the feeling somewhere there's a dark, smoky room with Mr. Burns, Dr. Hibbert, & Count Chocula all giggling like madmen over this?
IAALS.
but this way, we have something to pass the time on, at work =)
~Berj
After all, every geek knows clock speed isn't the be all end all of performance
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Lust. It is a lovely thing when you get it in the ass.
funny you put this at the bottom, because that pretty much what happened to any duped consumer.
anyone else see the parallels?
Now I can't trust Apple either.
Linus -- SAVE US (!)
In other news, my Powerbook G4 with USB 1.1 now has USB 2! Imagine that. :^)
Slashdot's first reaction to VMware
USB 2.0 "Hi-Speed" ports will be painted bright yellow, come with custom rims, and include VTEC stickers. They may not quite put out 480Mbps, but they sure will look like they do.
I remember when Microsoft renamed Windows 4 to Windows 95. Mass upgrading occurred as people thought they were 91 sequential versions outdated.
-- Fighting mediocrity one bad post at a time.
5 1/2 inches is renamed to 9 inches.
I pay for the renamed USB laptop with $1 bills that I "renamed" to $100 bills?
Whoever decided this constituted a reasonable distincation was definitely high on something and full of something else...
If it's slow it's Old Slow USB!!
if it's really slow it's probably a Null Modem Cable on your Serial Port, or maybe ADB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HTH!! HAND!!!
Check your system properties/hardware, look under "USB" - it'll either say USB 2.0 or USB 2.0....
D'oh =/
~Berj
Well, I know of an easy way to tell which USB you have, but I only reply to posts containing more than 36 exclamation points. I'm sorry, but if you can't be bothered to press Shift+1 a few more times, then I can't be bothered to help you.
Liberal (adj.): Free from bigotry; open to progress; tolerant of others.
Try again. Now it says 404 Full Speed
2x Full / /
Full | Low
Empty | High
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Ready to go - full tank of gas!
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Hi, I'm the reliable source you're looking for.
The reason we changed the name is because we believe the majority of computer consumers are morons. "Numbers" confuse most people; and decimals even more so! Instead, we want to use words more in tune with American psyche. Words like blazing-fast, high-speed, ultra absorbent, axis of evil, etc. Already, I think you feel the excitement. I know I do!
Sincerely,
Steve Ballmer
Q: How fast is USB
A:High speed USB products have a design data rate of 480 Mb/s. Full speed USB devices signal at 12Mb/s, while low speed devices use a 1.5Mb/s subchannel.
Real Answer: Not as fast as the members of the USB consortium.
Notice that their answer doesn't clear up the difference between the two types of USB 2.0, slick bastards.
Nigel: This is a top to aâ"you know, what we use on stage, but it's very, very special because if you can see... ..and most of these amps go up to ten.... ...all the way up. You're on ten on your guitar.. where can you go from there? Where?
Marty: Yeah...
Nigel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look...right across the board.
Marty: Ahh...oh, I see....
Nigel: Eleven...eleven...eleven....
Marty:
Nigel: Exactly.
Marty: Does that mean it's...louder? Is it any louder?
Nigel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here...all the way up...all the way up....
Marty: Yeah....
Nigel:
Marty: I don't know....
Nigel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Marty: Put it up to eleven.
Nigel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.
Marty: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
[pause] Nigel: These go to eleven.
I have a disc, formerly known as a cd, containing music by an artist formerly known as Prince, and it won't play thru my USB port, formerly known as 1.1.
They still have some room to expand in the reality they live in. There is still USB2 - Lightspeed, USB2 - Ludicrous Speed, and USB2 - Plaid.
Fools ignore complexity; pragmatists suffer it; experts avoid it; geniuses remove it. ~A. Perlis
Now my TiBook has Firewire AND USB 2.0!
Wait until they change it again later
USB 2.0 Top Speed
USB 2.0 Full Speed
USB 2.0 Top Speed Ultra Wide
USB 2.0 Top Speed Wide Ultra
USB 2.0 Full Speed Ultra Wide
USB 2.0 Full Speed Wide Ultra
USB 2.0 Mega Ultra Fricken Wide Full Top Speed
USB 1.1 renamed. USB 2.0 renamed to...
Firewire light
I think the next USB device I buy will be Firewire, and screw USB.
Why slashdot? Why not?
What'll we have in 5 years?
Super USB 2.0 Alpha Ultra Turbo High Speed Mega Special Tournament Edition Plus Plus?
my sig's at the bottom of the page.
Don't forget about USB-40, it comes with a Red Red Wine adapter.
I was going to post these all on a seperate line, but slashdot came up with this totaly resonable error: Your comment has too few characters per line (currently 18.5).
Okay, now I got Your comment violated the "postercomment" compression filter. Try less whitespace and/or less repetition. Comment aborted.
Fuck slashdot and it's insipid lameness filter.
anyway, the list is here. There are hundreds of members. I recognize lots of american companies and see lots of asian looking ones. Who knows.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
You damn technies
Umm, don't lump us all together please. Geez, you vets are all the same...
There's a rule in skydiving videography: Always buy Sony, there IS a difference.
... ahhh crap.
There's another rule also: If at first you don't succeed
Captain Picard on the Bridge:
PICARD
Mr. LaForge, what's the status on the reverse-flux inverter power couplings?
LAFORGE
Captain, I'm about to complete the upgrade from 2.0 version 2 to 2.0 version 1. But I gotta tell you, these thrusters will never reach Full Speed if we connect any low-power shields to the system! I mean, Hi-Speed! I mean... hold on a second, captain, I have to check the FAQ.
PICARD
Number One, give me a status report on those low-power shields!
NUMBER ONE
Captain, they're holding, but they need stronger throughput if we're going to fend off the attacks of that Klingon fighter! They seem to be using a new cloaking device, but it's no different than the old one! Sensors indicate a new system, but the performance is the same! I don't understand!
PICARD
Damn! What the hell is going on here? Mr. Data, lay in a course for the other side of that star system, Full Speed ahead!
DATA
Captain, are you sure you can outrun that Klingon fighter at Full Speed? I suggest a Hi-Speed approach!
LAFORGE
Captain, we're losing power! The ship's main computer is bogged down by the polling of the starboard engines on the low power bus, the photon torpedoes aren't getting the power they need in time!
PICARD
Dammit! Data, Hi Speed ahead! Laforge! I want everything off of the slow high speed low speed bus! Number one! Prepare a high speed assault on the USB committee! I mean a full speed assault! Aaggggh!!
CUT TO Klingon bridge
KLINGON CAPTAIN
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Or better yet, they should have dropped the marketroid "Hi", and simply used "High Speed USB", and "Standard USB". Remember folks, only the French (er, excuse me, "only the Freedom") put their adjectives after their nouns.
That's the last time I ever use another USB devi
Kind of reminds me of when the Fast Food / Convenience store industry switched.
OLD:
12oz Small
20oz Medium
32oz Large
NEW:
12oz Large
20oz Xtra-Large
32oz Super-Large
Soon to come:
12oz Super-Duper-Large
20oz Massive-Xtra-Biggie-Large
32oz Gargantua-Ultra-Insane-Jumbo-Large
Reality:
12oz
20oz
32oz
Dude! You got skooled!
No, I don't trust in god. He'll have to pay up front, like everybody else.
Bluetooth.org has also decided to rename Bluetooth 1.1 to BlueIncisors and Bluetooth 1.0 to BlueMolars. They are now part of the BlueTeeth family.
Since branding 802.11b to WiFi, IEEE is now contemplating brand 802.11a to WiFa and 802.11g to WiFiG.
SCO does not know what to make of all this and sues everyone for using Linux/Unix somewhere within those companies.
Maybe we should have a weird symbol for it too.
gcc: no input sig
Why not USB Small, USB Medium, and USB Large?, That will leave room for the future allocation of USB Personal, USB Family Size, USB Super Maxi, and USB Industrial Size? (Not to mention USB Junior and USB petite....) Whasamatta with just identifying the data rate in either bits per second or bytes per fortnite and letting it go at that?????? Regards, Ray Minich
What kind of computer and what kind of operating system are you using!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because it makes a difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't use too many exclaimation marks; it's like yelling!!!!!!!
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
Are you tired of being teased about your inferior "equipment"? Do the other guys have wider (throughput) cables than you? Does it feel like high school gym class all over again?
Well, we can't change school, but we can help you stack up now.
Introducing USB 2.0 Full Speed stickers. Yes, for the low, low price of $49.95 we can upgrade your "equipment" to USB 2.0. Just install our special, and patented stickers on a prominent place of your case, and enjoy all* the benefits that USB 2.0 offers.
* All does not include most of the features of USB 2.0, including higher though put.
In other news, Duke Nukem 3D has been renamed Duke Nukem Forever and will be re-released. In order to preserve a distinction between the two, the previous Duke Nukem Forever will never be released.
They should have simplified it by saying...
"All the USB specs are going to be called USB 2.0 from now on. So, you should choose USB 2.0 and for anything even remotely important, please choose Firewire. Thank you. I now go off to shoot myself."
[applause]
True. But now that Firewire 800Mb/s is out, the answer to all of this is: if you care about USB-480 (or USB Hi Speed, etc.) you should be using Firewire instead.
It's wonderful! The 1.1 works like 2.0! The 2.0 works like 2.0! The schnazberries taste like schnazzberries!
Sig not found.
Customer: We insist on having USB 2 controllers!
MFR 1: It costs us $0.25 cents more, we'll have to raise the price of your laptop $25.
Customer: Whatever, we want USB 2.0
MFR 2: psst -- why not just pay the standards committee to rename USB 1.1?
MFR 1: Hey, there's an idea... What say you USB Gods?
USB: Hmmm, that would be unethical and confusing and... how much? Ok!
MFR 1: Ok, PRESTO! You now have USB 2 in your laptops!
I guess this will finally convince people that Firewire really *IS* the better choice?