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Verizon Drops Opposition To Cell-Number Portability

EyesWideOpen writes "Verizon has announced (NYTimes - free registration required) that it would drop its opposition to the proposed F.C.C plan that would allow callers to keep their wireless phone numbers when they switch carriers. Verizon, the nation's largest mobile phone company, was seen as 'the standard-bearer of the opposition against wireless number portability' but has shifted it's position citing the recent court ruling as the reason for doing so. The F.C.C has set a deadline of November 24 for it's rules to take effect. Other mobile phone companies such as Cingular Wireless and AT&T Wireless are still expected to appeal the court ruling. Several previous stories on number portability here(1), here(2), here(3), here(4), and here(5)."

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  1. I know what to do!!! by bytes256 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Re-write the cell-phone numbers in Java...dial once, talk anywhere or something like that, isn't that why they're putting Java on all the phones?

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    1. Re:I know what to do!!! by Talking+Goat · · Score: 5, Funny

      From cell-phone provider training manual:

      "Number portability? Silly customer, why are you harping on that? We know what you really want... LOOK!! It's a widdle wormy-worm! You steer him around, it's a fun game! Oh, now look!"

      ::Usher customer out front door::

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  2. No Registration Required by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  3. Re:Obviously a move to gain customers by _PimpDaddy7_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not necessarily.

    Nextel offers the two way walkie talkie feature. Are other providers going to implement this? Some people need it, others don't.

    Also, not all providers have the best coverage. Here in Boston, Sprint's coverage drops easily. Verizon easily dominates the coverage in this area.

    Those are 2 items that can differentiate what provider you go with. I'm sure there's a few others.

    It's not a commodity, yet.

  4. Re:Free the phone numbers! by svallarian · · Score: 5, Informative

    No doubt!

    Seems like the contracts get worse each and each year. I've been with my provider (Cellular South) for about 5 years, and am still under a contract that gives:
    100 "anytime" min a month
    free incoming calls
    unlimited nights and weekends (at 7pm - not 9pm)
    for 29.95

    Now, don't get me wrong, Celluar South's billing is the worst i've ever seen, I haven't even received a bill in the last 3 years (DON'T sign up for their online billing--it doesn't really exist and then they can't get you back to paper-bill land), but as long as I can remember to use their convoluted automated credit card payment, it's really not a problem.

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  5. Cingular's Opposition by Yavi · · Score: 5, Informative

    As an employee of Cingular wireless, I can say that we're preparing our backend system to be able to do this. I believe all of the systems are in place, but that they're just testing the system. This could definatly spur competition in the cellular industry, and my completely unbiased (yeah, right) opinion tells me it will work to our advantage by driving more customers to us.

  6. Index out of range by HitSkyn · · Score: 5, Funny

    it should be Here(0),Here(1),Here(2),Here(3),Here(4)

  7. Things I can't believe are true about US mobiles.. by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1. You can't port your number between providers.

    Elsewhere, you can port your numbers in days with just a couple of phone calls.

    2. You have to ditch your handset if you do switch providers.

    In the rest of the world, phones have SIM cards (small smart cards). To change provider all you have to do is get a new SIM card, which costs around $7-15, depending on the provider that you're switching to.

    3. You have to pay for the priviledge of being contacted.

    Elsewhere, Caller Party Pays (CPP) is standard. If your boss calls you and jabbers on for an hour why should you foot the bill?

    4. Numbers are geographically fixed.

    Elsewhere, mobile numbers are non-geographic, which means that if you have to move from one end of the country to another, your mobile number doesn't have to change. Indeed, in most countries you can tell if you're calling a mobile number because it will have a unique, non-geographical area code - eg, in the UK all mobile numbers begin with 07xxx.

    Seriously, mobile telephony seems to be one area where the US is playing catch-up.

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  8. LOL @ Nextel by appleLaserWriter · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nextel is a great example of marketing a technically inferior product as superior. And they seem to be successful at it.

    The Push To Talk function takes a perfectly good full-duplex cell phone and turns it into a half-duplex walkie-talkie. They even give you a thicker and heavier phone to keep up the illusion!

    Nextel fans like to point out that PTT is built into the IDEN network, and other carriers can never offer such a feature. TMobile, however, offers unlimited mobile to mobile calling for $10. You get full duplex all the way with TMobile.

  9. Re:Free the phone numbers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    the real reason is that the FCC said number portability works both ways and you can move your home phone number to your cell phone. This will be huge fro the cell compaines in competing with LECs.

  10. They left out one very important thing! by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Keeping your cell phone when switching service!
    I have a drawer full of old cell phones that I paid THOUSANDS of dollars for over the years. Around here cell companies pop up and fold up just as quick. NONE of the local companies here have decent service or rates.
    So people here, me included switch service trying to go with the best one.

    "We're sorry, you can't use *their* phone with out service, you'll have to buy a NEW phone from *us* to use with our service."

    I would really like to see a stop put to this sort of thing too. And when company X packs up and leaves town you can't sell your old phone to anyone for use with any other company.

    That's the REAL pisser about switching service!

    1. Re:They left out one very important thing! by hseikaly · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, the problem with this is that the different services have differing technologies. Right now, only GSM phones have the ability to have sim cards in them, thus making a service portable amongst different GSM phones. If you have a CDMA service (i.e. Verizon, Sprint) you are out of luck, because there is no sim card ability and Verizon and Sprint operate on different CDMA frequencies (although YMMV)..

      There is talk about producing CDMA phones with a sim card-like ability, but it is currently in vapor stage. Until then, Verizon and Sprint can pretty much dictate what phones live on their networks.

      If you really want some type of phone portibility amongst the carriers, your best luck is to get ATT, T-Mobile, or Cingular for their GSM network. Then you can pretty much just move a new sim card to your old phone and voila... Also, if you get one of these phones, you can also use them in Europe (with the appropriate service and if the phone is multi-band))...

      Anyways, just my two cents

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  11. NOT TRUE. by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 5, Funny
    They're playing "run from the dinosaur", since they're still in Mobile Telecommunications stone age.

    NOT TRUE... STOP. IN US WE HAVE GREAT WAYS TO SEND MESSAGE... STOP. MUCH ADVANCED HERE... STOP.

  12. Re:Why is this a right? by onree · · Score: 5, Informative

    In the US, telephone numbers are not purchased; instead, they're maintained and distributed by specific authorities (e.g. the North American Numbering Plan Administrator [NANPA] or the Pooling Administrator). Carriers can request new blocks of numbers once they meet certain regulatory thresholds (e.g. xx% of their existing number inventory is utilized); once they receive these new numbers, the carrier can assign the numbers however it likes. The TNs can't be taken away as far as I know unless the carrier has a number inventory in excess of what they actually need, in which case the carrier elects which number ranges to return to NANPA or similar authority. So once a number range is received and as long as it is used by a sufficient number of customers, for all intents and purposes it will continue to belong to the carrier and can't be taken away.