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Microsoft Releases SP4 for Windows 2000

Snake_Plisken writes "I checked Windows Update today on a lark and found that Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 has been released." You can read a short CNet article discussing the media player patches as well as one more about the fixes in SP4.

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  1. Just Curious by bloxnet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Any brave souls out there already applied this yet? I am looking at about 100 Win2K boxes that will potentially need this...so anyone with feedback would be greatly appreciated.

    1. Re:Just Curious by Telastyn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Indeed. It's probably the best because it's the version of windows that's closest to being 'just an OS'.

    2. Re:Just Curious by Traa · · Score: 2, Interesting

      same here. No problems with SP4. I had to reboot my developer machine after 3 weeks of uninterupted uptime (installed a new Adaptec USB2 driver 3 weeks back). That is quite a step up from a few years back when many a debug session would end in a reboot. For me windows 2000 has been rock solid and a pleasant experience. I might still pick Linux over 2000, but my work leaves me little choice (and I really don't care that much).

    3. Re:Just Curious by anotherone · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd wager that you've got a problem with your computer, or your current windows setup. A good installation of Windows 2000 should get a few days of uptime as the absolute minimum.

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    4. Re:Just Curious by dasmegabyte · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think it's telling that even though XP's been out for at least a year, 2000 is still available as an option on new Dells. I asked for it 'special when they ordered my new PC for work.

      2000 is, in my opinion, the peak windows OS. It works, plays well with hardware, and doesn't try and mess with the concept of the UI too much. It adds transparency but doesn't mutilate it, and you can turn off the one dumb feature (menu sliding and fading).

      XP...well, XP moves shit around on me. Nothing's where I expect it to be. There are all these words...and real estate on menus is sucked up by these complicated sentences that have nothing to do with what I use my computer for.

      In short, XP fights my productivity. Every time I try to do something, it slows me down in a way that I only need the first time I do that thing. It's like a tutorial you can't skip past. Whereas Win2k gets things out of my way and only tells me what I need to know. If I need more, it gives me that option.

      Even "classic" mode is a bear, because the control panel is all munged up. Erg!

      I like Office 2000 better than XP as well...2000 was a good year for MS, maybe it's because it was the last cycle before Balmer came in as Lord of the Sith.

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    5. Re:Just Curious by spooky_nerd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have to agree with this. I used to support Windows ME for Microsoft. We called it "mistake edition". I think everyone at Microsoft would like to pretend ME was just a bad dream. 2K and XP are MUCH better.

  2. Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And here you can read about the newest security leak which is not patched by this servicepack ;)
    That guy who analysed the buffer overflow also found a funny easteregg in the buggy dll file. :)

  3. The scarry part by pecosdave · · Score: 5, Interesting
    At around the same time, however, the operating system was ridiculed by one of Microsoft's key developers for containing 63,000 known defects and bugs. The first service pack was released less than six months later. The latest service pack apparently has about 675 bug fixes.


    The Scary part is, I've found Win2000 to be the most stable and reliable Windows ever released. 63,000 defects? I wouldn't doubt it. The part that worries me with how well 2000 works, how many defects do the 9x, XP, and NT versions contain?
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  4. Re:The Funniest Fix by JasonMaggini · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This site has a pretty good list of weird MS Support documents.

  5. Remember Service Packs are cumulative by drew_kime · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm not looking at the terms of the EULA to confirm this, but I've read that MS Service Packs are cumulative, in that when you install SP4 you are agreeing to install SP3 (along with its EULA). If true, this means that by installing SP4 you are agreeing to the terms of SP3.

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    1. Re:Remember Service Packs are cumulative by el-spectre · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, they are cumulative.

      My understanding is that the EULA for a later version takes precedence over earlier versions, so SP4 would be the 'rule'

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    2. Re:Remember Service Packs are cumulative by 56ker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Has the legal status of EULAs been clarified? 1) You don't sign them and 2) They often contain illegal clauses.....

  6. Yeah, I got one of those emails too. by MickLinux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Except this is what it was: a trojan, but with an all new date, and an all new filename. Someone has just rereleased this baby.

    Fortunately, a few things clued me in:

    (1) It said it was from Microsoft. But the URL said from a Verizon ad.

    (2) It called me a Microsoft Client. I've never felt so humiliated. I do *NIX or Mac.

    (3) It claimed to fix ALL the known security flaws in Windows. This one should have been obvious.

    (4) It was advertised to work on Win9x, ME, and 2000. My guess is that Microsoft doesn't do a whole lot for Win95 people who haven't upgraded. I could be wrong.

    (5) It included an executable. [??? how did that slip past my ISP??? They normally strip executables.]

    Anyhow, for those of you who use Windows, be aware [once again, and again and again] that those trojans are not to be run.

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  7. Yeah, right by PingXao · · Score: 3, Interesting
    MS wasn't happy with the "premature" disclosure on BugTraq of the new IE6 bug.

    "Its publication may put our customers at risk or at the very least cause customers needless confusion and apprehension"

    Of course, the existence of the bug in the first place never put their customers at risk. What a crock of shite. Reminds me of MS's recent purchase of a virus protection sooftware company.

    1. Sell software with security holes
    2. Sell protection against those same holes
    3. Profit!

    The arrogance is astounding.
  8. Re:Well... by MeanMF · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You can use the handy official Microsoft desktop support lifecycle wizard to see how long they plan to support each desktop OS version. Windows 2000 will be fully supported through 3/31/05, then it will enter "extended support" for two more years (extended=more expensive). After that you're on your own. Win2k server follows basically the same guidelines, except that in the "extended" support period you need to pay for non-security-related hotfixes.

  9. Funny, I'm the other way around... by Kjella · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Because XP feels so flashy, childish and dumbed down, I'd either go to Linux or Win2k if my current XP install goes completely ka-boom. 99% of what I've done with XP is make it like 2k, but once that was done I don't see any technical reason to downgrade either.

    Kjella

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  10. Hmph by Phil+the+Canuck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anyone know how badly this breaks terminal services? Damned MS, they never could make a service pack that didn't break terminal servers in some way or other.

  11. Re:Actually, it's just as easy.. by SonicBurst · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You have a very good point. It can be difficult to understand what is going on using things like group policy. I fully agree that writing a script that simply logs into the machine and runs the executable is much more.....understandable. However, once you do learn and understand group policy, it becomes very easy to administer and use it to your benefit.

    That said, yes, I know very well what is going on when I use group policy. ( I do it on a daily basis) Troubleshooting failed group policy can be major a pain in the ass, but, like anything, once you've done it a few times, you get better at it. Typically I wouldn't monitor traffic flow, although that would give you a good idea if it was actually downloading the software. There are some tools to troubleshoot GP, gpresult being the first one I use. It's not perfect, but I do trust it.

    Also, a windows sysadmin could also just write a script to install the pack, you just wouldn't use ssh to log in to the machine, you would use something like sysinternal's psexec. So, to sum up...yes, I know what it does and I trust it, but that doesn't mean you couldn't do it similar to your method on windows box.

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  12. My experience with SP4 so far... by AtariKee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... is somewhat troubling. I am unable to cleanly reboot the box (it just lays there like a lame date), and I had to remove two instances of a file called mobsync.exe in order for my system to regain stability. With this file running, I was unable to run any instances of the explorer (including control panel) and the entire system became unstable. Luckily, I was able to bring up the Task Manager to kill it, and used Find to find/delete the files. The file protection box will pop up, of course, but you can decline to have the files reinstalled.

    Just my experience so far...

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  13. Re:To update or not to update, sysadmin's drea(d|m by Mistah+Blue · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Never update or make a change on Friday or before a holiday. This is a best practice.

    As for SP4, I'll wait a few weeks before I upgrade my wife's laptop (on the off chance Microsoft will have to pull it or update it).