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Extending And Embracing In Portland At OSCON 2003
The goods: Commercial vendor booths have been fork-lifted in and assembled throughout the course of the day in the lowest of three convention floors, but OSCON's company-sponsored exhibit booths are likely to be low-key and informative, not the glitzy schwag dispensaries of LinuxWorld Expo. (Added to which, the exhibits will only be up six hours on each of Wednesday and Thursday.)
Tutorials and other information-heavy sessions are the core of OSCON; attendees who have paid (or had their employers pay) more than a thousand dollars to attend a five days of tutorials and conference sessions are understandably serious about actually learning things.
I stopped in on one such serious session this morning, "A Day of Extreme Programming" taught by the Irish team of Marty Pauley, Tony Bowden, Marc Kerr and Karen Pauley. The instructors skipped over justifying the methodology of Extreme Programming, and instead immediately launched into a short, funny demonstration of multi-programmer iterative debugging before splitting the 30-or-so attendees into three programming teams for the rest of the day, each team coordinating its efforts using provided CVS servers to work for a simulated client (Karen Pauley, a manager in real life) with a nethack-style game to improve.
Marty Pauley drew some laughs by pointing out the "high-tech project coordination system" he had purchased in anticipation of the all-day session, which he said had cost about $14 in for the whole group. At this, he pulled out several packs of index cards, a plastic case to house them, and some rings to bind smaller collections of cards. "Forget about Gantt charts, every aspect of the project goes on an index card."
Cheap, not necessarily dirty. Pauley's Index-cards and CVS make a decent capsule of the whole conference: there's a definite leaning toward the practical, get-things-done-cheap aspect of open software rather than appeals to the importance of sharing emphasized by Richard Stallman's Free Software movement. OSCON features dozens of sessions and tutorials emphasizing the efficiency, standards compliance, and low-cost of source-available software, with just a few sessions touching on underlying philosophy or licensing. In one session yesterday, for instance, Free Software Foundation executive director Bradley Kuhn talked about the GNU General Public License as it applies to managers as well as to coders.
This doesn't mean that attendees aren't interested in philosophical underpinnings or changing the world -- more likely it's simply that in summer 2003, most programmers who would show up at an event like this have already wrestled with and come up with their own conclusions about software openness, including what licenses or license types they're comfortable using.
One indicator of the Open-vs-Free pragmatism at OSCON is the prevalence of Apple laptops running Mac OS X; Apple's OS may be the best poster child right now for the pleasing results possible in a mix of open source with proprietary software. One tutorial room I looked in on 22 attendees using Intel laptops, most of which were running graphical desktops on Linux or BSD, and 6 with PowerBooks running OS X. I note a similarly high proportion of OS X machines being used around the conference floor when hundreds of attendees swarm out of conference rooms at each break between sessions.
Changing the world, one press release at a time. A handful of interesting announcements have come out during the convention so far. Among them: MySQl and PogoLinux have announced a joint project, a turnkey database appliance running MySQL on an Intel based box. ActiveState (makers of well-regarded IDEs for Python and Perl, among other things) will show an alpha release of Komodo 2.5, the latest iteration of their IDE for programming in Perl, Python, PHP, Tcl and XSLT. Many more such announcements are likely after the exhibit hall opens tomorrow morning.
Not everything at OSCON is about helping businesses produce more virtual widgets per square inch, though -- the sense of collaboration isn't limited to downtown Portland. Ethan Zuckerman, founder of Tripod, and now founder of Geekcorps, will talk Friday on Geekcorps' efforts to bring digital independence to poor countries; he and several other geek activists took part today in a by-invitation roundtable discussion about spreading good through technology, and will be speaking together in a press conference tomorrow on the various ways computers and other high-tech tools can be used to promote prosperity worldwide.
Viva la revolucion! At a conference about extending and embracing proprietary software, the SCO-initiated legal fight over UNIX copyrights is surely on the minds of many attendees, but readers who have grown tired of the ongoing drama will be pleased that there's been little buzz here among attendees about SCO's legal actions. Is it because SCO's suit against IBM is simply irrelevant, or because most people are withholding judgment until SCO actually points out the code the company objects to? SCO is not forgotten, though: tomorrow afternoon, Bradley Kuhn, Chris DiBona, Alan Nugent and Lawrence Rosen will discuss the SCO case in a session called The IP Wars, which ought to get some blood pumping.
In the meantime, conference attendees will get to see something more fun and less contentious this evening: status reports on six different open source software projects: Perl (explained by Larry Wall), Python (Guido van Rossum), PHP (Shane Caraveo), MySQL (Monty Widenius and David Axmark), Apache (Greg Stein), and Linux (Theodore Ts'o).
Body odor?
Like what SCO alleges was done to their code?
Nice to hear the OSS folks owning up to what their real agenda is.
I have been pwned because my
Lunch paid for by Microsoft? We could perform an en-masse, real-life slashdot on them!
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She actually works for SCO and she has gonorrhea.
the last I extended and embraced anything I ended up with the clap
If you mod me down the terrorists will have won
I am sick of that groundless case causing fear within the community. Anyone with lingering doubts please see the OSI Position Paper on The SCO-vs-IBM Complaint
I'd love it if that stupid fiasco didn't have to spill over into anything that has to do with OSS.
Beware blue cats moving at
To all attending, DO NOT eat the free Microsoft lunch. What better way to deal a blow to OSS then poisoning a large population of the community.
Section 4, paragraph 6:
Lunch is on us, however, you may not publish in any form anything that could ever possibly be constued to be a review, without our express written consent, or you'll get no desert!
I am NaN
It sounds to me like Microsoft is going to try and sell the idea of their CLI through their semi-open source Rotor. Has anyone seen what this actually is? I haven't heard a thing about since the day I attended the .NET launch in Seattle.
If I were M$ I would be very afraid to let people see my code; as it were its never been really impressived when small snippets get released.
why don't you post the room #? ;)
I'll be there later today.
Was it worth it?
It's nothing but crumpled porno and Ayn Rand.
what happened to that poor man?
Portland? Which one? Are there any real journalists in the house?
Skiers and Riders -- http://www.snowjournal.com
Anyone attending should keep in mind also that Portland is one of the most un-wired cities. Check out Personal Telco for access points around town. Including several bars. I highly recommend the Rose and Raindrop on the east side of the willamette river on grand ave.
J
If their food is as bad as their software, we'd slashdot the bathrooms next. I think I'll pass.
It's nothing but crumpled porno and Ayn Rand.
After all the "don't eat the MS Lunch" posts, I want to add my own personal twist to it. If they GPL the lunch, then any derrivative work done from the lunch should be given back to the community.
In short, this is an example of Microsoft using the Open Source community for testing its iLoo
I went to a Linux show recently where MS was attending, and there was a rather negative atmosphere surrounding the MS booth. They really had no interest in anything but telling anyone who would listen that their products were better.
I don't understand, what are they trying to do?
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
Do you think it is enought to drown a small child?
Not enough to drown, but enough to immobilize for long enough to go get a plastic bag and lots of tape. Of course I'm only 16, so by the time I'm 30, I should be able to ensnare a small family.
How about an en-masse, real-life, guaranteed-to-be-more-effective, boycott? RSVP(if necessary), but don't show up. Spread the word, and make it clear it's in protest of MS's ties to SCO(they're practically pulling the strings at SCO, right?). DO NOT turn it into a "MS sucks" boycott- the press will (rightly) see that as childish, and the industry will see it as the Linux community not "playing nice with others". If it has a clear purpose and reason, it'll be another matter entirely, so make sure people understand what it's all about- Microsoft's support of SCO and SCO's actions. Wouldn't hurt to include any other companies involved even slightly with SCO, if there are any in attendance.
You won't hurt the caterers or the facility(if it's one thing caterers are good at, it's covering their own asses; up-front payment, contracts, etc). Probably the only downside is that a lot of food might go to waste, although one would hope the food would get donated(a few heads-up calls to local shelters and food pantries along the lines of "there will be considerable amounts of food available on..." might help)
Please help metamoderate.
What's the EULA for this lunch? I mean, are the derivative works property of microsoft? If so, is there an "enterprise" option allowing one to opt out of such license clauses?
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Crudely Drawn Games
You could grow up, get a job, and figure out that Microsoft isn't even a blip on the radar screen of the world's troubles.
But that would assume you had two synapses to rub together and it's clear that you're barely squeaking by with your one neuron.
Jädrar vad det trycker på i tarmen. Its almost like christmas.
An Open Source/Linux website devoting 2-3 stories a day to bashing Microsoft...
Contrary to popular belief, coding is not all free blow-jobs and beer. Those things cost MONEY!
Step 1: Do some recon and find out where the MS reps are staying.
... or is at least extremely embarassed, while we laugh our asses off.
Step 2: Hire some hookers and send them to said address.
Step 3: Videotape!
Step 4: register domain:
"www.microsoft-love-whores.net"
Step 5: post everywhere
Step 6: watch as MS crumbles to there knees
Staff at a small computer conference yesterday were expressing "shock and dismay" at the poor performance of Wednesday's lunch.
Local area Dinnerlady, Mavis Angolis, 58, exclaimed, "I don't understand it. It was full Monday and Tuesday but today its less than full". Rumors have been flying about the site about the possible explanation for the failure to fill every seat in the small canteen. Some cite a internet post on popular IT News site, slashdot, as the cause. However, others have their own theory.
Conference attendee, Mitch Buchanan, 28, echoed many others opinion: "man, they are serving meat loaf again! I got sandwiches today instead"
If it's the same thing they're serving in my building's cafeteria tomorrow, here's a hint: I'm going to Azteca, and I suggest you do the same.
Someone you trust is one of us.
That's like Microsoft advertising on Slashdot!
oh wait...
There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.
...Especially when Microsoft's offering it.
Schwab
Editor, A1-AAA AmeriCaptions
"Representatives from Microsoft are along for the ride"
.NET .net
My real problem with M$.
Microsoft's Common Language Infrastructure (CLI)
Does this have anything to do with Command Line Interface
Microsoft Exchange
Does this have anything to do with MX records (except needing one)
Does this have anything to do with TLD (Top Level Domain, For you microsofties)
MS Domain
Does this have anything to do with with DNS
etc,etc,etc
Spaghetti, coded in honey based sauce with lots of button mushrooms to push.
OH THE SHAME I fell off the wagon and use sigs again!
I can confirm that the Wi-Fi problems have been fixed. Yesterday I could barely surf for pr0n in the bar on the Restaurant level. Goatse would take at least 1 minute to load, fer Chrissakes.
Today I can offend in seconds. Hats off to the Oreilly techs for their quick work.
If I down one more pint, I'll be educating the masses with the help of the autopr0n guy...
Everybody Wang-Chung tonight!
Everyone computer scientist knows about the No Free Lunch Theorem, so be leery!
.. as free lunch! Wait and see. If you think we are going to get some peace while we eat, you think wrong. They will show us the BSOD and a dancing monkey, I promise. Well, check out My site with pictures Caution swedish! Well, pretty decent event after all. Cheerz!
Girls are strange. They don't come with a man page.
-- Michael Mattsson
Just be sure not to drink the Kool-Aid
w00t! (Oh wait)
Two times I have been forced to pay for versions of Windows that I did not want. Tomorrow, Ill eat all I can at their "sponsored lunch" to get some of my damn money back!!!
oSCOn, 'nuff said...
It's kind of like getting drinks from gay guys at bars, let them buy you drinks all night, but at the end of the day, you ain't going home with them. :-)
sri
OK, it is a bit of an ethical dilemma, I must admit. But I'm leaning toward taking the free lunch tomorrow.
;-)
Why? Well for one thing, if we do as you suggest and boycott, then Microsoft will just have the lunches distributed to the homeless up and down the street near the Hotel and so they'll get credit for feeding the homeless and it'll be on the local news tomorrow night: "Microsoft comes to Portland to feed the homeless! Isn't Bill Gates wonderful? Film at 11."
Also, I think I can take the free lunch and remain objective. It's not like after I finish eating it, I'll feel obliged to go out and buy a copy of WinXP - not likely to happen; Gentoo is safe on my laptop. I suppose the more paranoid among us might be afraid that they'll insert some sort of mind control drugs into the sandwiches, but I don't think that's too likely. Might also be a good idea for us to wear tinfoil hats too but mostly because of all the WiFi around here not because of Microsoft spin.
Now, if they make us listen to some sort of Microsoft sales pitch in order to get the lunch, then I'll most likely skip... But to be honest, I haven't seen much of any Microsoft presence here in the last couple of days. Maybe they're just using this as an opportunity to observe us
I'm English, so apologies if the phrae above doesn't mean quite what I think it would if it was in a business newspaper.
Open Source movers do need to persuade the large numbers of people who believe themselves to be dependent on the model Microsoft are most associated with advancing for a living, that they are actually not so dependent.
This includes those within Microsoft.
Even though the Microsofties who are sent to such a meeting may not be the most likely to undergo a change of mind, it is an opportunity to soften their view - so long as those thousand geeks don't pong too badly, and are not rude unpleasant or stupid about it.
And no, I generally assume if someone offers me lunch that they may have an agenda of their own, but they are not being rude.
Beware if it's kool-aid. :-D
(Introducing BPOD - The Blue Punch of Death.)
--- I wish I could hear the soundtrack to my life. That way I'd know when to duck.
In Windowsland, Microsoft eats you. NT workstattion just went out of support last week. Mine broke promptly. MS has taken all the NT workstation info off their website, off their knowledge base. Dialed them to re-apply the service pack, but it's not up anymore. Called them to buy a service pack CD, but they don't have any. Found an old post in deja news archive about one phase of my problem -- it was a known problem in NT 3.5 over 7 years ago and never fixed even in SP 6. Jeez.
What he's really after is a list of all developers that could potentially create the next killer app. So be warned if they ask to see your ID. Kind of strange that Microsoft would choose to represent itself on TV with a giant BUG! It takes all kinds of people to make a profit in an economic downturn.