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"Quick 'n Dirty" vs. "Correct and Proper"?

A not-so Anonymous Coward enters this query: "I keep finding myself on projects where a quick and dirty solution will bring in money for the company, and a correct (ie, properly documented, well engineered, process followed, etc) solution will get us left in the dust. When the Q&D solution succeeds, I'm left trying to explain why it can't be the FINAL solution (to PHBs and Marketroids that were fully informed of the situation prior to any work getting done). Most recently, work I did in record time was used to help bring in several large contracts, and then I found myself in hot water for not having followed process et al. So, to Slashdot: is it better to do the quick thing and greatly increase the chance of $uccess now, or to do the correct thing and avoid pain later (assuming there is money to pay for the pain later)?"

38 of 887 comments (clear)

  1. memo by albeit+unknown · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did you get that memo about the new cover sheets on the TPS reports?

    1. Re:memo by suso · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, did you get that memo about the TPS reports? Well it's just that now we're putting a cover sheet on them and if you could do that in the future it would be great. Thanks...

  2. It's like sex... by PeteyG · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's like sex.

    Quick and dirty, like getting drunk and meeting some stranger in a motel room, will leave you feeling gross aftewards.

    Correct and proper, like wooing a nice and attractive young lady, takes time, hard work, and if it works out, leads to something wonderful and long-lasting.

    Either way, you have sex. But which one would you rather tell your mother about (or rather, put on your resume)?

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    1. Re:It's like sex... by Gr33nNight · · Score: 3, Funny

      I dont know about you, but I DO NOT tell my mother when/if I get laid. There are some things she really doesnt need to know about.

    2. Re:It's like sex... by flowerp · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Either way, you have sex. But which one would you rather tell your mother about (or rather, put on your resume)?

      Sex on your resume is ALWAYS bad. See Bill Clinton.

      (Unless you are a porn star of course)

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    3. Re:It's like sex... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shit. Now wonder I don't have any job offers. I've completely neglected to put my sexual history on my resume!

      -AX

    4. Re:It's like sex... by Xugumad · · Score: 5, Funny

      That, and it scrunches the paper up...

    5. Re:It's like sex... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      It's like sex.

      Maybe, but I don't think your analogy will resonate with the average /.er - most are likely waaaay more familiar with Q&D and C&P than they are with sex

    6. Re:It's like sex... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Funny

      And which one would you rather brag about around the coffee pot?

      You: "Yeah, it took me seven times longer than Joe in Graphic Design, but the quality... Oh, the quality..."
      Coworker: "Joe did it seven times before you did it once? You are the suck."

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    7. Re:It's like sex... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      which one would you rather tell your mother about

      I don't have to tell your mom about the quick and dirty - she was there.

    8. Re:It's like sex... by 3ryon · · Score: 2, Funny

      What if your bosses told you you had to fuck 10 women by 5pm Friday afternoon?

      Must be Thursday.

    9. Re:It's like sex... by xenocide2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      But you'd put "Nailed a super model in a very uncomfortable place" on your resume?

      C'mon, the back of a volkswagon, people!

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    10. Re:It's like sex... by micromoog · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction."

    11. Re:It's like sex... by Alpha27 · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's interesting how you say 'when/if' as opposed to just 'when'

    12. Re:It's like sex... by Cloud+9 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hold on. Let me run that through my engrish-english translator...

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    13. Re:It's like sex... by Dr.+Photo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nailed a super model in a very uncomfortable place

      Hooray for double-entendres! :-)

    14. Re:It's like sex... by intermodal · · Score: 2, Funny

      That'd explain why you've resorted to the porn industry (as noted in your sig)

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  3. Well by CausticWindow · · Score: 1, Funny

    Who doesn't like it quick and dirty?

    This isn't the only aspect of life where quick and dirty is superior. If you stop to think about it, most things feel better when done quick and dirty. At least dirty, I know I like it dirty anyway.

    You know the kind of dirty that you won't get on afternoon tv, passions, etc. Know what I mean? And I'm not talking pay tv in a hotel dirty either, I'm talking real life forbidden in 49 states dirty. Huhu. Yeah, that's it, I knew you dug it.

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  4. Quick and Dirty? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, there's different schools of thought. Your sister likes it quick and dirty - there's no doubt about that. However, your mother likes it when I take it nice and slow.

  5. Re:Passion is the key - if you're passionate, rele by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I see you didn't take the red pill...

  6. I think for the few truly excellent programmers: by ath0mic · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Quick 'n Dirty" == "Correct and Proper"

    ...and believe me, I'm not one of them.

  7. *Cough* *Cough* by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clicky Clicky.

    Truly, things to program by (or not).

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    1. Re:*Cough* *Cough* by fritter · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, right.

      Like I'm gonna take programming tips from someone who starts lists at ONE.

  8. Re:Passion is the key - if you're passionate, rele by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yes! Man, the interface sucks and it takes longer than pencil and paper to get a result, but I am just filled with many warm fuzzies when I discover the sheer passion and drive that went into developing such a substantard product. At least, that's what the developer told me...

  9. Re:Correct and Proper by flying_triguy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Correct and Proper
    Otherwise you're going to spend all your quick cash on fixing bugs and supporting craptacular software, not to mention bad press and angry users.

    But you'll be RICH

  10. Re:I think for the few truly excellent programmers by forwhomthebelltrolls · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why did I think of this Dilbert comic strip when I read your message?

  11. Re:One reason why we need to absolve money by Xerithane · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is one reason why we as a society need to find ways to get rid of this need for greed and wealth and money in general. Otherwise things just keep running into the ground.

    Yeah, but in a world where trade is the dominant form of currency, professional programmers are useless.

    I've worked on a farm, I'd prefer not to go back. Besides, we gave you people Berkeley, can't you just stay there?

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  12. Also by GnarlyNome · · Score: 2, Funny

    the pages stick togeather

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  13. TPS?FUBAR? by siskbc · · Score: 3, Funny
    What's this I hear about you not putting cover sheets on your TPS reports? Didn't you get the memo?

    What the fuck's a TPS report? Did we discuss that last week while I was still drunk from the night before? Am I fired?

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    1. Re:TPS?FUBAR? by EverDense · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd settle for him NOT making King of the Hill.

      Oh, come now, poor people should be allowed to have their own version of the simpsons.

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  14. Re:"Quick 'n Dirty" vs. "Correct and Proper"? by MojoMonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    if you catch my meaning.

    hmmmm no, what do you mean? That was much to subtle.

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  15. just a note by autopr0n · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wendy is so not going to call, loser.

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  16. Re:One reason why we need to absolve money by aelfwyne · · Score: 2, Funny

    >Perhaps a micro-socialist system could be
    >implemented for those who are out of a job? To give
    >them a job within a co-op, where they can create
    >their own jobs, train themselves from the resources
    >made available; a safety net for the unemployed, at
    > almost no cost to the government.

    This exists. It is called by various forms - Usually a college or a University. If you're really lucky you don't have to pay it back later when you're no longer jobless. If you're unlucky you get the honor of living in concentration camps known as dormitories for 4 to 6, and then have to pay them back for mistreating you after your time is up.

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  17. Re:Do Both. by mackstann · · Score: 3, Funny
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  18. Re:One reason why we need to absolve money by digitalsushi · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll think about that next time I'm in a casino on the east coast *owch rimshot*

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  19. Re:Do Both. by Kerkyon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Horizontal whitespace may be cheap on monitors,
    but it's a pain in the ass when doing parellel
    diffs (e.g., for inspections) or you have a borky
    80 column console.

    78 columns, or you should be stabbed in the eyes.

    (It is also at a premium in the /. comment posting
    box.)

    -k

  20. Re:No easy answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    we don't even comment the code

    That only works for people who code well; poor coders should always add comments, unless they're also poor commenters, in which case their comments will only confuse.

  21. Re:Deutschland by God!+Awful+2 · · Score: 2, Funny


    You forgot to mention the part about your employer being located in Berlin. Not that I'd mind living in Germany for a few years .. but my girlfriend almost certainly would object. Perhaps after I finish my second masters, I should apply?

    What... and give up on your third masters? I'm disappointed in you.

    -a