Correct and Proper
Otherwise you're going to spend all your quick cash on fixing bugs and supporting craptacular software, not to mention bad press and angry users.
If anyone went to the link provided by the parent, did you notice that they recommend you get the position of the fireball with a PROTRACTOR, or weighted piece of string in addition to a compass?
I can see it now,
Whatcha doin pa?
nothin' Mary-Sue-Ellen, I just gotta get my god-damn shoelace untied and pull out the compass I always keep under the hood of my truck...keep an eye on that big green object.. oh sh**, I'm wearing boots!
I don't know if I buy the economic argument (pardon MY pun), although I do agree with the environmental/consumptive argument.
let's take this one step at a time.
Device = $80
Big Mac = $2.00
That makes a total of 82 dollars for your first bit of power. now, a big mac contains 570 calories
Now 570 calories will last about 1-2 hours depending on intensity of exercise, we can assume a bit longer than that for something like this, so let's say 3 hours
That means your first 3 hours of talking cost 82$. Now I will give you that your costs go down as you use it more, and Big Mac's are cheap, but how do you spread the workout around?
What is teh cost to charge a cell phone battery that lasts 3 hours? I would imagine the the cost of buying and operating a battery would be lower.
Honestly officer, it was an emergency, and I kept it between the lines with my knee
As well, it will be a good excuse for that overdeveloped right arm (or left depending which way you bat) on geeeks who sit in front of their computer all day.
It does not and cannot reflect on itself at all, does not have any perception devices.
I am curious...
If a system is able to determine something has changed, and make a conclusion from that change, isn't that perception?
Just because it doesn't have eyes/ears/nose like you doesn't mean it doesn't perceive.
And the fact that it asked if it was human, and whether there were other computers like it, I would say it is more human than we would like to realize. After all, what is a better example of the human condition than wondering if you are alone in the world, and if not, where the others, like you, are. I was like that, and then I found slashdot.
I thought that Compaq had reverse engineered the process in accordance with patent law
ie)
person A takes apart BIOS, documents the standards of how it works, how it reacts, effectively the specs.
person B takes specs and rebuilds the BIOS. Because no code was ever duplicated, it was completely rebuilt to conform to the same standards. it wasn't a violation of patent or copyright
As is the case in many of these debates, there are two extremes, and both are equally likely to have problems.
1. Eternal Patent and Copyright: This means that there is tremendous stability in development, very little "new directions" as a new direction would have to come from the company with the copyright or patent (or a company paying money to them). The downside is the cost of doing this if there is failure. Very high. --> Little change or innovation
2. No Patent or Copyright: Very dynamic creative possibilities because everything can be used to create new things. Everyone who has a different direction or idea can develop that, there are no barriers (cost) associated. Just time. This is also very chaotic... you can't have standards when everything is always changing. Stability of anything here... not good. As well, it ends up making things extra cmplicated as the only way to make money is to do it from services (installation, customization etc) so it is in the best interests of the creator to make it as difficult as possible to implement making sure that someone has to install it for you.
Seems to me that there is a happy medium. My personal preference is for the happy medium to be less restrictive than now, but that is for society to judge (which is why I have problems with where things are now, I don't believe society has decided, I think that society has abdicated that decision to corporate interests.
Interesting thought: I have had fairly good luck running somewhat robust servers with Windows (File/Print only) systems, the problem seems to be when you have other software (sometimes MS software: I have had bad luck with exchange, more often though third party software) The problem seems to be that very few people have the skills, knowledge, time or specs/API's for writing robust windows apps
Another problem: many writers take shortcuts like "I need to do x, y, z and to do z you need system user status, so I will run EVERYTHING as system" which makes everything a lot less stable I think.
What about kernel space third party dll's, if memory serves, it was a kernel space DLL that caused IIS's blackice to crap out on a reasonably high volume of pings... turned out to be exploitable. Mind you the same is true of the most recent telnetd, exploits for *nix systems. The common theme seems to be how robust the app implementation is and how well documented/well used the OS API's are.
seems that we shouldn't be searching for the best OS, but the easiest OS to develop secure stable platforms for... and there are a lot of factors that go into that... and please don't mod me down for being redundant with that last statement, I know others have said that same thing, I am just reiterating.
Hmmm... perhaps everyone (I wish we had one up here in Canada) should listen to, support, and lobby for Ralph Nader.
Too bad he was excluded (essentially) from the last election, and labelled a spoiler of the see the nader factorDemocrats (it boggles my mind how a comment supporting democracy can deam a third choice to be antidemocratic)
I do think it is important to differentiate between culpability and influence, but I don't think that we should underestimate the influence that those things that we see everyday have over us.
I only started to know this when I got rid of my cable TV (I still watch DVD's) and realized that my consumer habits changed significantly. Marketers know this well, that is why sometimes it is very hard for "social" commercials trying to influence behaviour to get through. The money and test-screening wasn't there... they don't have as much of an effect on the target audience (or miss the audience entirely)
Understand that I am not advocating sensorship, I am advocating responsible ethical parenting of the kids (all kids, not just the ones who snap, what about the ones who tortured, teased and excluded the ones who snapped). I don't buy for a minute that responsible parents are not able to influence the behaviour of their children, again, it all depends on what you are exposed to. Live an ethical example, practice the difference between right and wrong, and encourage critical thought of choices.
Let's put all the "Canada is the best at hockey" Comments under here so the rest of the world can skip over our chest beating (I am Canadian, Lemieux is a gosh darned good guy)
I concur that Tim Horton's does have the best coffee, just don't move to Vancouver... Damn starbucks
Hmmm, I have a bunch of operating systems, and a bunch of browsers on my computer and here is what I have found.
Galeon on Ximian Gnome is the fastest for rendering pages
IE under w2k is the fastest to load
Opera is middle of the pack for both, but handles some IE inconsistencies better than Galeon/Mozilla
I haven't used Konqueror for a few revs
From seeing what happens to newer IE (5.5) on a older (AMD 350) PC with 32m RAM, I would guess that the reason it loads faster is because more of itself is already loaded as part of windows, you should see this machine hit the swap file when it runs. After seeing the Unix port of IE and it's ridiculous hardware requirements.. I can't believe how bloated it is. it's almost equal to a full win95 install just for a browser. That's nuts.
I use Galeon most, I like the functionality of it.
The point is that laws shouldn't be needed to get people to behave ethically.
If it's worth something to you, and someone took time to build it, either pay something, or give something back to the community.
I have trouble buying albums owned by large labels if there are a couple songs I like, but I will always buy an album for an independant artist or for someone who consistently puts out quality work
The people who steal work's are just as money grubbing as the RIAA and other stake holders who are trying to control creative content and charge per viewing of it.
If people behaved ethically and rewarded artists who put out good stuff, and encouraged them to go indpependant or *GASP* GNU licensed music, more artists might buy in and give the large labels a run for their money.
I have often thought the path for Linux into the desktop world is a managed/leased option for home users. A Managed Computing Service Provider so to speak (MCSP)
They turn on their computer, it boots to run level 5, GUI login, menu's everything happy. If they want something done, the place they bought it from can SSH in to the machine and add it/upgrade it via automatic scripts.
With windows, most people have no clue how to add and delete shortcuts from the Start Menu and if it's not on the desktop or start menu, the the program is uninstalled in their mind.
Of course anyone who wanted to learn and do more could.
Imagine if gateway or dell started down this MCSP path. Home users here we come. And leasing with a 'you don't own it, you can't configure it' might just work. Most users are quite happy to see their right of Fair Use in entertainment (CDs DVDs) go out the window, perhaps this notion of them being able to do something with the computer they bought is also outdated
Slashdot Mirror
Correct and Proper
Otherwise you're going to spend all your quick cash on fixing bugs and supporting craptacular software, not to mention bad press and angry users.
But you'll be RICH
Well, if you are seriously reading this article,
and thinking about the consequences I can tell you
the statistical probability right now... Zeroooooo
D
And after you listen to the right brain, this is what happens
[her]Great! Now we can watch 10 dozen channels of crap at 3 and an half feet tall.
[him]
Yeah but there are TWO Matrix's coming out! And then Return of the King!!
[her]
it costs how much and we can't afford a ring?
[him]
But, Daredevil,AND The hulk, I just HAD to.
[her]
grrrr
[him]
Leave me alone, it's going right there in the middle of that wall, across from the couch where I will be sleeping for the rest of the decade.
[her]
*grrr*.. Mom, yeah, he's doing it again... yeah, I know, you warned me about geeks, but I thought brains would make them smarter... yeah, I know
I would think that your that your post validates his original point that:
1) you shouldn't point a gun at what you don't intend to shoot.
if required, I am sure that the cops were prepared to shoot. Not without provocation, but prepared... fer sur
If anyone went to the link provided by the parent, did you notice that they recommend you get the position of the fireball with a PROTRACTOR, or weighted piece of string in addition to a compass?
I can see it now,
Whatcha doin pa?
nothin' Mary-Sue-Ellen, I just gotta get my god-damn shoelace untied and pull out the compass I always keep under the hood of my truck...keep an eye on that big green object.. oh sh**, I'm wearing boots!
I too am Canadian,
I too was taught RESPECT for firearms.
I too heard the words "Treat every gun as if it were loaded"
Perhaps it's something in the water up here.
*grin*
Why has no one imagined a Beowulf cluster of these?
I don't know if I buy the economic argument (pardon MY pun), although I do agree with the environmental/consumptive argument.
let's take this one step at a time.
That makes a total of 82 dollars for your first bit of power. now, a big mac contains 570 calories
Now 570 calories will last about 1-2 hours depending on intensity of exercise, we can assume a bit longer than that for something like this, so let's say 3 hours
That means your first 3 hours of talking cost 82$. Now I will give you that your costs go down as you use it more, and Big Mac's are cheap, but how do you spread the workout around?What is teh cost to charge a cell phone battery that lasts 3 hours? I would imagine the the cost of buying and operating a battery would be lower.
As well, it will be a good excuse for that overdeveloped right arm (or left depending which way you bat) on geeeks who sit in front of their computer all day.
I am curious...
If a system is able to determine something has changed, and make a conclusion from that change, isn't that perception?
Just because it doesn't have eyes/ears/nose like you doesn't mean it doesn't perceive.
And the fact that it asked if it was human, and whether there were other computers like it, I would say it is more human than we would like to realize. After all, what is a better example of the human condition than wondering if you are alone in the world, and if not, where the others, like you, are. I was like that, and then I found slashdot.
How about Star Wars Trilogy - XP
World Beers --> Fun to sample the potential names....
PHB "What do you think you're doing"
Lackey "Naming the servers sir, just 3500 more beers to go ..."
I thought that Compaq had reverse engineered the process in accordance with patent law
ie)
person A takes apart BIOS, documents the standards of how it works, how it reacts, effectively the specs.
person B takes specs and rebuilds the BIOS. Because no code was ever duplicated, it was completely rebuilt to conform to the same standards. it wasn't a violation of patent or copyright
If I am mistaken, please let me know.
As is the case in many of these debates, there are two extremes, and both are equally likely to have problems.
1. Eternal Patent and Copyright: This means that there is tremendous stability in development, very little "new directions" as a new direction would have to come from the company with the copyright or patent (or a company paying money to them). The downside is the cost of doing this if there is failure. Very high. --> Little change or innovation
2. No Patent or Copyright: Very dynamic creative possibilities because everything can be used to create new things. Everyone who has a different direction or idea can develop that, there are no barriers (cost) associated. Just time. This is also very chaotic... you can't have standards when everything is always changing. Stability of anything here... not good. As well, it ends up making things extra cmplicated as the only way to make money is to do it from services (installation, customization etc) so it is in the best interests of the creator to make it as difficult as possible to implement making sure that someone has to install it for you.
Seems to me that there is a happy medium. My personal preference is for the happy medium to be less restrictive than now, but that is for society to judge (which is why I have problems with where things are now, I don't believe society has decided, I think that society has abdicated that decision to corporate interests.
However, seeing as the DOJ seems to be M$'s bitch, does that make M$ part of the "government?"
If the DOJ is MS's bitch, doesn't that make MS the government with the DOJ doing it's bidding?
This episode of "that's not funny" has been brought you by...
hmmm
Interesting thought: I have had fairly good luck running somewhat robust servers with Windows (File/Print only) systems, the problem seems to be when you have other software (sometimes MS software: I have had bad luck with exchange, more often though third party software) The problem seems to be that very few people have the skills, knowledge, time or specs/API's for writing robust windows apps
Another problem: many writers take shortcuts like "I need to do x, y, z and to do z you need system user status, so I will run EVERYTHING as system" which makes everything a lot less stable I think.
What about kernel space third party dll's, if memory serves, it was a kernel space DLL that caused IIS's blackice to crap out on a reasonably high volume of pings... turned out to be exploitable. Mind you the same is true of the most recent telnetd, exploits for *nix systems. The common theme seems to be how robust the app implementation is and how well documented/well used the OS API's are.
seems that we shouldn't be searching for the best OS, but the easiest OS to develop secure stable platforms for... and there are a lot of factors that go into that... and please don't mod me down for being redundant with that last statement, I know others have said that same thing, I am just reiterating.
Hmmm... perhaps everyone (I wish we had one up here in Canada) should listen to, support, and lobby for Ralph Nader.
Too bad he was excluded (essentially) from the last election, and labelled a spoiler of the see the nader factorDemocrats (it boggles my mind how a comment supporting democracy can deam a third choice to be antidemocratic)
I disagree somewhat
I do think it is important to differentiate between culpability and influence, but I don't think that we should underestimate the influence that those things that we see everyday have over us.
I only started to know this when I got rid of my cable TV (I still watch DVD's) and realized that my consumer habits changed significantly. Marketers know this well, that is why sometimes it is very hard for "social" commercials trying to influence behaviour to get through. The money and test-screening wasn't there... they don't have as much of an effect on the target audience (or miss the audience entirely)
Understand that I am not advocating sensorship, I am advocating responsible ethical parenting of the kids (all kids, not just the ones who snap, what about the ones who tortured, teased and excluded the ones who snapped). I don't buy for a minute that responsible parents are not able to influence the behaviour of their children, again, it all depends on what you are exposed to. Live an ethical example, practice the difference between right and wrong, and encourage critical thought of choices.
Let's put all the "Canada is the best at hockey" Comments under here so the rest of the world can skip over our chest beating (I am Canadian, Lemieux is a gosh darned good guy)
I concur that Tim Horton's does have the best coffee, just don't move to Vancouver... Damn starbucks
Hmmm, I have a bunch of operating systems, and a bunch of browsers on my computer and here is what I have found.
Galeon on Ximian Gnome is the fastest for rendering pages
IE under w2k is the fastest to load
Opera is middle of the pack for both, but handles some IE inconsistencies better than Galeon/Mozilla
I haven't used Konqueror for a few revs
From seeing what happens to newer IE (5.5) on a older (AMD 350) PC with 32m RAM, I would guess that the reason it loads faster is because more of itself is already loaded as part of windows, you should see this machine hit the swap file when it runs. After seeing the Unix port of IE and it's ridiculous hardware requirements.. I can't believe how bloated it is. it's almost equal to a full win95 install just for a browser. That's nuts.
I use Galeon most, I like the functionality of it.
Sigh
The point is that laws shouldn't be needed to get people to behave ethically.
If it's worth something to you, and someone took time to build it, either pay something, or give something back to the community.
I have trouble buying albums owned by large labels if there are a couple songs I like, but I will always buy an album for an independant artist or for someone who consistently puts out quality work
The people who steal work's are just as money grubbing as the RIAA and other stake holders who are trying to control creative content and charge per viewing of it.
If people behaved ethically and rewarded artists who put out good stuff, and encouraged them to go indpependant or *GASP* GNU licensed music, more artists might buy in and give the large labels a run for their money.
Up here in Alberta (land of red-neck, we don't want no social safety net, education or environment) we have a great radio station, it is non-commercial, plays QUALITY music, everything from blue grass to jazz to rock. Oh, yeah and it practically covers the whole province with it's broadcast. Every year, they have to BEG the public to support them, I would guess that only 5-10% of the listener base gives anything, even 5 bucks.
Apparently you can't legislate ethics
I have often thought the path for Linux into the desktop world is a managed/leased option for home users. A Managed Computing Service Provider so to speak (MCSP)
They turn on their computer, it boots to run level 5, GUI login, menu's everything happy. If they want something done, the place they bought it from can SSH in to the machine and add it/upgrade it via automatic scripts.
With windows, most people have no clue how to add and delete shortcuts from the Start Menu and if it's not on the desktop or start menu, the the program is uninstalled in their mind.
Of course anyone who wanted to learn and do more could.
Imagine if gateway or dell started down this MCSP path. Home users here we come. And leasing with a 'you don't own it, you can't configure it' might just work. Most users are quite happy to see their right of Fair Use in entertainment (CDs DVDs) go out the window, perhaps this notion of them being able to do something with the computer they bought is also outdated