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Drifting Bath Toys Expected To Hit New England

gsx1400 writes " Auntie Beeb is reporting on the 11 year, 5,000+ mile journey by a container load of rubber ducks, The article doesn't go into specifics, but a more detailed analysis of this and other long-distance flotsam is here. This has nasty connotations for the Cargo of the SS Mulheim, which ran aground earlier this year in Cornwall, and has been left to break up. It's estimated that up to 10,000 containers are washed off ships each year, and many of them do not sink, but drift around our oceans, causing pollution and shipping hazards."

61 comments

  1. 50,000 Nike shoes... by while(true) · · Score: 5, Informative

    A similar thing happened in 1999-2001. When, among other things, 50,000 Nike shoes drifted around the globe. This National Geographic's article discusses this incident and goes into more detail on the whole phenomena of drifting cargo.

    1. Re:50,000 Nike shoes... by mlush · · Score: 3, Funny
      When, among other things, 50,000 Nike shoes drifted around the globe.

      There was a radio program about beachcombers a while ago and they mentioned that all the right shoes came ashore at one spot and all the left shoes came ashore about 3 miles up the coast. Presumably the sea had sorted them based on their chirality

    2. Re:50,000 Nike shoes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's odd.

  2. Causing pollution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Call me crazy, but what difference does it make if a container full of 'pollution' falls off a ship and sinks, or falls off a ship and floats? Still pollutes the oceans doesn't it?

    1. Re:Causing pollution? by sICE · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, but generally pollution looks dark and evil. It's not like nice and smilling yellow ducks floating around.

      beside, i suspect that's again a tour-de-force from stupid ecologists trying to free donald duck.

    2. Re:Causing pollution? by SEWilco · · Score: 4, Funny
      If it falls off a ship and sinks, it's not pollution. It is litter on the ocean floor.

      If it falls off a ship and the entire sealed container floats, it is not pollution. It is an oddly shaped rock of low density with a high iron content on its surface. It is a hazard to navigation.

      If it breaks open, whether on the ocean floor, or due to impact, rust, or people breaking it open on a beach, then the "pollution" inside is released. If it's something that sinks then that becomes litter wherever it lands. If it is something that contaminates water then it becomes pollution, although that depends upon your definition of "contamination".

      If it's a container full of gold and people have broken it open on a beach -- it will be cleaned up pretty quickly.

    3. Re:Causing pollution? by Anonymous+DWord · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, it seems like there's a pretty easy solution to all of this then. Just make everything out of gold.

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    4. Re:Causing pollution? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Unfortunately, my seawater separator has malfunctioned and no longer makes gold. I can hook you up with a little hydrogen, or I can make you a great deal on some chlorine gas.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  3. Ah, but.... by ApharmdB · · Score: 4, Funny

    The most evil kind of evil is the cute kind of evil. Beware the little duckies.

    1. Re:Ah, but.... by shadowbearer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Rubber ducky, you're the one...

      Rubber ducky, so much fu

      Ahhhhhh!!!! No! No! Not tha *no carrier*

      --
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  4. Rubber ducks seem nice and friendly... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Informative
    But I happen to be one of (probably) a number of people who have had the misfortune of being in charge of a yacht on a trans-atlantic voyage which very nearly came seriously unstuck as a result of hitting a submerged container.

    In our case, the impact was a glancing blow, and although it did make a hole in the hull, we were able to patch it sufficiently to keep us afloat. If we had hit the thing squarely, though, the boat would definitely have sunk. Nasty.

    It's always bothered me, ever since, every time I look at those container ships in harbour; there is nothing more than gravity holding those damn containers down.

    1. Re:Rubber ducks seem nice and friendly... by Black+Rabbit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You would probably find that the stacked blocks are joined together with large pins, just as they would be on a flatbed truck or rail car, just a few (!) boxes higher than what they would be on either. As stable as container ships are, things still have to be secured, as something as heavy as a container would shift so easily on even a gentle roll, potentially capsizing the ship.

      Now, I haven't seen this for myself, but i just cannot fathom the idea of so many large unsecured objects stacked up so high on any sort of vessel.

    2. Re:Rubber ducks seem nice and friendly... by gsx1400 · · Score: 5, Informative

      They are indeed pinned together, however the mounting points on the corners of the container are not strong and are easily damaged - probably a design flaw. I used to live opposite a container terminal, and every so often the mounting / lifting points fail and they drop the container - very noisy!

    3. Re:Rubber ducks seem nice and friendly... by argStyopa · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, gravity, 4 massive iron guiderails, 4-8 hi-tensile steel cable tiedowns, and 4 steel knuckle locks.

      But I suppose that's quibbling.

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      -Styopa
    4. Re:Rubber ducks seem nice and friendly... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We should mandate a beacon on these containers that activate based on water pressure. It would help avoid navigation dangers and encourage salvage.

      When the beacon's battery is about to die, its last act is to blow a charge on a valve which allows water to fill the container, scuttling the debris. I bet it could be done for fifty bucks a container.

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  5. Huh huh, Beavis.... by TrebleJunkie · · Score: 2, Funny

    "They're toys for two-year olds, and they're called Floatees, and they're meant to go into the bathtub with the kids," recounts Ebbesmeyer. "Each package has a green frog and a blue turtle and a yellow duck and a red beaver."

    ... huh huh. "Red Beaver." eh heh heh.

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    Ed R.Zahurak

    You know, oblivion keeps looking better every day.

  6. Cruel trick on carnivores by GuyMannDude · · Score: 4, Funny

    I pity the poor ocean-dwelling carnivores which must have gotten a rude shock when they tried to dine on the group of slow-moving, brightly-colored objects thinking them the chance of a lifetime:

    Killer whale observes slowly drifting flock of ducks and can't believe his luck.

    "Sweet manna from heaven! Bonzai!"

    Rises up out of water below them with his huge mouth filled to capacity with the little toys. Seconds later...

    "Ptew!" ..spits them out... "What kind of cruel fuckin' joke is this? Goddamn humans!"

    GMD

    1. Re:Cruel trick on carnivores by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gary Larson did a Far Side cartoon along similar lines once. A crate of mannequins fell overboard; in the strip, you see two sharks feasting on the contents of the crate.

      The first one looks to the other and says, "What is this, some kind of cruel hoax?"

    2. Re:Cruel trick on carnivores by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Bonzai!

      The correct spelling is "Bonsai!"

      Why are killer whales interested in small trees?

    3. Re:Cruel trick on carnivores by andy666 · · Score: 1

      no that's ok, you can spell it that way.

    4. Re:Cruel trick on carnivores by hplasm · · Score: 1

      Not if you mean Banzai!

      --
      ...and he grinned, like a fox eating shit out of a wire brush.
    5. Re:Cruel trick on carnivores by andy666 · · Score: 1

      yes you can. you can spell anything anyway you want.

    6. Re:Cruel trick on carnivores by hplasm · · Score: 1

      True, just as you can breathe any gas you want. But it doesn't work very well.

      --
      ...and he grinned, like a fox eating shit out of a wire brush.
    7. Re:Cruel trick on carnivores by martyn+s · · Score: 1

      Why not, I thought it worked fine.

    8. Re:Cruel trick on carnivores by hplasm · · Score: 1

      GAsp!

      --
      ...and he grinned, like a fox eating shit out of a wire brush.
  7. Just toys? by I+Like+Swords!!! · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now when hundreds of thousands bundles of unmarked cash in nice vacuum-packed plastic wrap start washing on shore... lemme know, k?

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    .unsigged
  8. Tonight's Catch of the Day by Demodian · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now appearing at your local Red Lobster... Rubber Duck Chowder... Fillet of Rubber Duck... Rubber Duck Scampi... all under $10

  9. Ducky Derby time!! by SolemnDragon · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Here in Boston, we race them, and i know that this happens in other states, too (the KenDucky Derby being one of them) usually they are held as fundraisers for nonprofit organisations. Here in Boston the ducky theme's been prevalent ever since Make Way For Ducklings, so nobody's surprised to see duckies washing down the Charles River with numbers painted on the sides...

    They string nets right across the top of the river, though, so that the duckies can't escape. (And the duckies are actually rented most of the time, which really makes it bizarre... So i guess it's time for another ocean duckie race!!! quick, somebody head out there and number the ducks...

    1. Re:Ducky Derby time!! by Agent+R · · Score: 1

      I sense flamebait for Howie Carr. LOL! ;-D

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    2. Re:Ducky Derby time!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ducks are rented...because someone already went to the trouble of numbering them. And they sit in a warehouse when there aren't needed someplace in the country for an event.

  10. AFLAC! by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or was that Affleck? I often confuse these two almost-lifelike media characters.

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  11. Not the first attack against New England by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is not the first such monster attack against New England. I recall something like this reported on a Cincinatti radio station during the 1970's:

    "Monster lizard ravages East Coast! Mayors in five New England cities have issued emergency requests for federal disaster relief as a result of a giant lizard that descended on the East Coast last night! Officials say that this lizard, the worst since '78, has devastated transportation, disrupted communication and left many hundreds homeless!"

    (Les Nessman reporting)

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    1. Re:Not the first attack against New England by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of us recognize WKRP and Les' difficulty with that blizzard.

  12. Use GPS by superyooser · · Score: 1

    Why don't they put GPS devices on the ducks so they can track their paths the whole way?

    1. Re:Use GPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      It's a rubber bath toy. Strap a GPS unit to the thing and it sinks.

      Are you volunteering to strap GPS units to thousands of rubber ducks? Didn't think so.

    2. Re:Use GPS by SEWilco · · Score: 3, Informative
      Why don't they put GPS devices on the ducks so they can track their paths the whole way?

      • If they caught all the ducks so they could instrument them...they should, and would, keep them and remove that debris.
      • Scientists already have floating instruments (some drift under the surface) which are measuring currents. The identifiable debris is just an accidental addition to such information.
      • You keep changing the batteries on those things.
      • Don't forget a transmitter on each duck. More power needed. Or else you have to find them so you can find out where they went, and that is difficult if you don't know where they are.
  13. RFID on duckies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better yet, why don't they put RFID's on the duckies to prevent it the next time someone steals a million from Wal*Mart and dumps them in a river?

  14. It's happened by spineboy · · Score: 4, Interesting
    My Grandparents were in Florida about 15 years ago taking a walk on the beach, when they saw a crowd of people gathered. Some smuggling boat had broken up and it's contents had washed up on shore.

    The contents were 1) Plastic wrapped bags of money, and 2) Large plastic wrapped bales of pot.

    Unfortunately, the US Customs agents had also heard of it too and were preventing people from taking "souvenirs".

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    ..........FULL STOP.
    1. Re:It's happened by mercuryresearch · · Score: 1

      A friend of mine says people on the coast in florida refer to this as "winning the lottery" or that they went fishing and caught a "square grouper."

      (Grouper being a fish for the sea-life challenged among us.)

  15. Don't eat them by tsa · · Score: 1

    I wonder how many of these duckies are eaten by marine animals. Not many fish teach their children to not eat rubber duckies.

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    -- Cheers!

    1. Re:Don't eat them by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't worry too much about it. Eventually, they will poop them out.

      --
      Life is not for the lazy.
  16. Another cool cargo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I really should take up this beachcombing thing. I mean, can you imagine how cool it'd be if I found something from thisship that was washed up on the beach!

    1. Re:Another cool cargo... by ravenousbugblatter · · Score: 1

      My fiance used to live at the beach...she spotted a whole toilet washed up one day after a storm. Not quite as cool as a luxury car or bags of pot, but I guess you take what you get.

  17. danger! by andy666 · · Score: 0

    oh yeah those rubber ducks pose a real hazard to shipping. i hear the captain of an oil tanker was out for a swim recently and he almost choked on one.

    1. Re:danger! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lmao, but anyways, things like these can get sucked into the cooling systems on engines, and then they become a problem.

  18. Ten thousand containers a year fall off ships?! by treat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ten thousand! With no responsibility for leaving behind a hazard. The cost of insurance seems to be cheaper than actually tying these things down.

    I wonder if money can be made by salvaging abandoned containers. Is this legal, or once it's rescued will you just have the contents taken from you?

    1. Re:Ten thousand containers a year fall off ships?! by AllUsernamesAreGone · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This maay answer your question. IANAL, but as far as I can tell you'd be able to claim ownership unless the original owner made a proper claim.

    2. Re:Ten thousand containers a year fall off ships?! by gsx1400 · · Score: 1

      Shipping insurance is normally paid by the dispatcher / reciever, not the carrier itself.

    3. Re:Ten thousand containers a year fall off ships?! by qzulla · · Score: 1

      I used to do repair on containers. I was told they are supposed to "float" 15 feet under the surface. The ships with cranes would retrieve them. Those without (most) just slide on by. They are locked down but the sea can be very unforgiving.

      qz

    4. Re:Ten thousand containers a year fall off ships?! by gsx1400 · · Score: 1

      How are the ships supposed to retrieve them? They usually come off in _very_ bad weather, conditions under which no sane captain is likely to risk broaching while hove-to to attempt to find a missing container or two! Besides, they have a schedule to keep, right?

  19. Terrorists can plot by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can see it now: some goofball terrorist will plant anthrax or the like in a rubber duck and it will travel the world without them having to step a single foot on a boat or plane, and suddenly there will be a duck panic.

    Batman villians used to seem silly until the likes of Osama popped up.

    1. Re:Terrorists can plot by Kosi · · Score: 1

      Or the Bush junta make Tony Blair fill them with the debris of some Iraqi equipment and then claims to have found the WMD.

      Mad villains in high offices used to seem "not from the western world" until GWB seized power in the USA.

  20. You are crazy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, you asked me to call you that.

    I'm always happy to oblige... swould you like me to call you an idiot too?

    --Charlie

  21. Balers by poptones · · Score: 1
    Actually, that was a genuine source of income for many of the time. I had a friend whose cousin had moved to the keys to become a "baler." Basically a baler is a person who makes a living from gathering and selling the bales that would wash up on the shore - a high risk pot dealer.

    Had another friend (we were both kids in jr. high) who stole a briefcase from the seat of a jeep and discovered it was full of money. I don't know what he did with it (I know he didn't keep it) but when the people who owned the briefcase caught up with him they broke both his hands. Apparently being a "baler" was considered a good living by many, but I dunno if I'd want to live with the risks. If they'd break the hands of a kid, you just know how they're gonna deal with adults.

    1. Re:Balers by Kosi · · Score: 1

      Ahm, you're sure you understand the difference between stealing a wallet out of a car and collecting abandoned flotsam? And the difference in people's reaction towards you when doing it?

  22. Laws of Physics? by bgalehouse · · Score: 1

    It is pretty much impossible to design something to "float" passivly at a fixed distance underwater. If denser than water, it sinks, if less dense, some portion (potentially small) will be above water, if exactly equal it will drift up and down with the currents.

    1. Re:Laws of Physics? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1


      You're forgetting about pressure.

      See, in scuba diving we wear these inflatible vests called Boyancy Control Devices (BCD's). The BCD is hooked up to an air supply.

      At 10 feet you need just a bit of air in the BCD to stay afloat (you're balancing the lead weights on your belt). At 90 feet, you need a whole lot more air in the BCD to stay afloat because of the water pressure (1 atmosphere per every 15 feet).

      So, to ascend you have to put more air in your BCD, but as you ascend you have to let it out, since the air will expand as you rise. Yeah, you waste alot of your air getting to and from the dive.

      So, that's probably not how containers work, but it's one way you can acheive neutral boyancy at a given depth - odds are they're using the water pressure somehow.

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  23. Another message in a bottle ... 15 years adrift! by Derwent · · Score: 1

    Some friends were on a research expedition to the Northwest Hawaiian Islands and found this bottle, which had been adrift 15 years from Japan. Does anyone know Emi Komasu?

  24. Re: veiled "self-love" reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...
    everyday when I
    make my way to the tubbie
    I find a little fellow
    that's cute and yellow and chubby
    rub-a-dub-dubbie

    Posting as AC so I don't have to openly admit I know the song.

  25. funny, but kills wildlife, and as for "sea food".. by fantomas · · Score: 2, Interesting
    :-) nice one.

    ...Hate to boring and serious, but it is actually a threat to marine wildlife. Add up all the nondegradable rubbish floating around out there that sea life can be poisoned by, the illegally dumped engine oil, broken up cargos, dumped chemical and radioactive nasties, and you're not looking at doing the environment any favours. What comes around, turns around.


    ok I am a vegetarian, so what do I care, but hey, you guys who like sea food, woahh, I thought you'd be a little bit worried about the stuff your favourite dish has been eating.... (feel free to make fun veggie jokes, I like em too ;-) , my favourite dishes are grown in shit, but hey it's worth thinking about eh?....).

    We really should try to clean up the seas and stop being free and easy about how we transport and dump our crap, it will all come back eventually. I grew up by the English Channel, one of the busiest sea ways in the world, umm, do I ever go swimming in there? take a guess.....

  26. Nice Encyclopedia by fm6 · · Score: 1

    I hadn't seen that online encyclopedia before. Has to be the nicest one that doesn't require a subscription fee.