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Valve Launches Public Beta Of Steam

Thanks to several readers for pointing out that Half-Life developers Valve has launched the public Beta of Steam, their "broadband platform for the delivery and management of digital content." It currently includes free downloads of the new Counter-Strike 1.6, as well as the original Half-Life, Team Fortress Classic, Opposing Force, and more. This audacious move to build a truly popular digital delivery content system by Valve, already through an extensive closed Beta stage, also indicates Steam users should "..stay tuned for a blast of HL2 full-motion goodness."

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  1. Shit :( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    broadband platform for the delivery and management of digital content.


    Wow so valve is in the DRM biz now? Oh wait this is DRM with neat shinny things on it!!! That makes it better! Right? Right?!?!?

    HL was the last valve product I will ever buy
  2. Don't Feed the Trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Just because they mention DRM their evil and you're going to boycott them? Maybe what they mean is that they will use their technology to prevent anyone who's using stream from applying hacks and cheats and runing other people's expiriances. DRM isn't always bad.

    --MBCook

  3. Don't Encourage the Naive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Or they could be using to lock down systems that have it installed to not only prevent cheating, but to become some player in the game content delivery field. Similar to the soon-to-file-for-chaper11 console company Infinium. DRM is ALWAYS bad.

    1. Re:Don't Encourage the Naive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No it isn't, get a fucking clue. It isn't guns that are evil, it's the people who use them to murder. DRM wouldn't be evil either, as long as they don't have hostile intentions with it. Separate paranoia from logic in your mind, please.

      Gabe Newell and Erik Johnson have been working thier ASSES OFF on Half Life 2 (not to mention everybody else, sorry). I've been with the community for a while and all I can say is you fuckers don't know the slightest clue what you're on about.

      I know linux guys are gonna panic to get this game ported from windows.

      When you see Valve doing big business-like things, blame it on thier parent company VIVENDI UNIVERSAL before you go around bitching about them.
      Thanks for reading this

    2. Re:Don't Encourage the Naive by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 1, Troll

      You don't know the slightest clue, if you did you would have know Valve is an independent company, and isn't own by Vivendi. Vivendi is their publisher and that is as far as that goes.

    3. Re:Don't Encourage the Naive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod down -1, troll

      100% incorrect

    4. Re:Don't Encourage the Naive by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 1

      Actually mod up, Vivendi Corporate Bio. No where on this page does it mention them owning Valve, however it lists the other companies it owns. Also on the About Valve Page does it mention Vivendi owning them. Show me some proof or mod me up.

    5. Re:Don't Encourage the Naive by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 1

      Actually mod up, Vivendi Corporate Bio. No where on this page does it mention them owning Valve, however it lists the other companies it owns. Also on the About Valve Page does it mention Vivendi owning them. Show me some proof or mod me up.


      Whoops, forgot the links
      Valve Bio
      Vivendi Bio

    6. Re:Don't Encourage the Naive by Schnapple · · Score: 2, Interesting
      One more time:

      Valve made Half-Life,
      Sierra published Half-Life,
      Vivendi owns Sierra.

      Given that Activision published Valve's "mod in a box" Day of Defeat and that we're probably going to see HL2 available via Steam as well as retail channels, maybe Valve isn't going through Sierra for HL2?

  4. Been there, done that. by battlemarch · · Score: 0, Troll

    IntoNetworks.com - To bad they went belly up.

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    1. Re:Been there, done that. by battlemarch · · Score: 1

      I'm a troll? Wow, well, before you get out your mod stick again, try a google search on IntoNetworks. I was there, what Valve is doing isn't that new, we did this already.

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  5. Different name, same great taste! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Palladium is now: next-generation secure computing base

    Valves DRM is called: Digital content management.

    Whether you call it dung, manure, stool, feces or whatever the fact remains that it's still SHIT.

    Move along folks...

  6. public beta of steam? by kurosawdust · · Score: 3, Funny

    oh, it's a game! When I first read the title I thought they were using a euphemism for "vaporware"...

  7. The news here is by GiMP · · Score: 1

    FREE HALFLIFE.. of course, you will need a Vmware, Win4Lin, or Windows box to install it.. but sweet :P

    1. Re:The news here is by gearheadsmp · · Score: 1

      Or the CVS version of WineX, which is free. Of course, you're encouraged to subscribe to Transgaming to fund further development. But the point is that you don't need much more expensive software (Vmware, Win4Lin) just to play CounterStrike.

    2. Re:The news here is by eht · · Score: 1

      Then again the Ultra Platinum Edition with no extra content Version is at WalMart for $4.99.

    3. Re:The news here is by GiMP · · Score: 1

      I already have Win4Lin, so I won't bother :P I'll need Wine or WineX to *play* the game as Win4Lin doesn't support DirectX; however, I've heard reports that the Steam software doesn't work in Wine.. but I didn't even try :)

  8. Not exactly free by Aztek · · Score: 0

    If I remember correctly you have to have a version of Half-Life currently installed.

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  9. PowerPlay? by eht · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is this PowerPlay modified, finished, and rebranded?

    some comments about PowerPlay here( it's the second item listed on the page, about half way down)

    1. Re:PowerPlay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why dont you just check it out, and find out?!?

    2. Re:PowerPlay? by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 1

      No, it's not.

      Steam is a content delivery and management system. You install Steam and then you can download games and mods and be sure they're kept up to date (the idea is for Valve and other developers to be able to self-publish their titles over the internet through Steam).

      PowerPlay is/was an initiative to make online gaming work better with both hardware and software improvements from the lowliest modem to the routers and switches, down to the protocols used for online gaming (ie UDP) and the encryption methods used to keep the game data secure (mostly from proxy-based cheating).

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    3. Re:PowerPlay? by eht · · Score: 1

      I was just wondering if they took everything that was actually viable from PowerPlay and made Steam out of what was left of the good stuff, since Steam seems like PowerPlay without the hardware.

    4. Re:PowerPlay? by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 1

      While they may have used some aspects of PowerPlay, the basic ideas are completely different. PowerPlay was meant to speed up internet connections and make them more reliable, as well as increasing the security of network code (reducing hacking and cheating in games) while preserving bandwidth.

      Steam, on the other hand, is about content delivery. While being able to download updates in a fairly dynamic fashion can help with the security aspect (by allowing patches to go out more quickly and by forcing users to update), it doesn't really do what PowerPlay was intended to.

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  10. COMPLETELY WRONG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    not only do you NOT need hl, but with it, you can(for now, at least) play halflife without buying it, as well as tfc, and cs. No need for a cd-key either.

    1. Re:COMPLETELY WRONG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You don't need a cd key, but you have to be online to play Half-Life single player. Try to firewall off steam and start a game. "This game is currently unavailable". In other words, Valve can give Half Life away, but they can take it back anytime they want. This is not my idea of free. Steam has been wiped from this computer and will never return.

  11. When will they learn? by Mensa+Babe · · Score: 1

    public beta of steam? oh, it's a game! When I first read the title I thought they were using a euphemism for "vaporware"...

    That is a great pun indeed. However I would like to point out that anyone who is thinking about unbreakable copy protection, digital content delivery system sending binary digits (bits) which are impossible to copy,* or other perpetum mobile for that matter, might consider getting a clue and educating oneself. Crypto-Gram and some books could be a good start.

    Of course I am not talking to anyone from the Slashdot community, as I am sure everyone of us is perfectly aware of everything I am talking about. I am saying it in case someone from this steampowered dotcom is listening.

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    *) also acceptable would be: a lossless compression of random data, a one-time-pad cryptography without key distribution problem or with reused keys or keys shorter than cleartext, immortality drug, perpetual motion machine, prove of the existence of omnipotent superbeing, strong artificial intelligence on Turing machine, homeopathy, magic, multilevel marketing that works, et cetera ad infinitum, ad nonsensum... I think you get the point already.

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  12. Re:No linux, No deal. by robson · · Score: 1

    There's no excuse. Their software is cross platform and so should this be.

    Valve? I don't think they're a "cross platform" development house, as a rule. (Not like id is.) I'm pretty sure Half-Life 2 won't run on anything but Windows.

  13. Re:No linux, No deal. by Hard_Code · · Score: 1

    The servers will definately run on Linux. The clients on the other hand will be entirely up to Linux users to figure out. Until Linux desktop users provide a market for games (i.e. they actually start buying proprietary software), there is zero incentive for game publishers to support Linux, and I can't blame them (there is very little "common good" argument to be made for game software which is typically non-reusable).

    On the other hand, if there is a Mac version, that is 80% of the way there considering Mac OS X is now unix.

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  14. What's the news? by ShawnDoc · · Score: 1

    Steam has been on a public Beta for at least the last year and for at least 2 versions.

    1. Re:What's the news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but it was not official announce according to valve...

      Just see this a privat public beta...

    2. Re:What's the news? by FauxReal · · Score: 1

      I thought it was a private beta put people were leaking it out on the P2P networks.

    3. Re:What's the news? by FrEaK7782 · · Score: 1

      I was a little confused about this too.

      I think what this announcement is is for version 2 of Steam. Or it could just be that they reopened it. Counter-strike.net has a news post about them closing the servers because they were maxed out.

  15. Sneaker-Net support by jago25_98 · · Score: 1

    I sometimes have to use a Dial up connection a lot.

    This means I have to travel somewhere else to do the bigger downloads and then transfer the files onto my disk of some sort.

    This is ok with Gentoo (wget portagesnapshot.tgz && emerge -ufp world). M$ still provide `mass install` support as well as the auto updaters - this especally helpful when reinstalling afresh every 5 minutes.

    But auto updaters like this completely foul the system as they don't provide support for sneaker-net. What a pain in the neck.

    1. Re:Sneaker-Net support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is ok with Gentoo (wget portagesnapshot.tgz && emerge -ufp world).

      I love it when "you people" (linux folks) take the time to tell us which command & arguments you use. Thanks, but we don't give a damn.

  16. So what's the point of Steam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I installed it 2 weeks ago, and I still don't get the point. Sure, it combines some stuff together, but does it make sense?

    Let's see:

    1. Instant Messaging- No, please! Not another! I use already trillian because my friends have split up between all 4 known protocols. No need, no need at all to have another one.

    2. Server Browser- nice, sure, but naturally for HL and mods only. Beginners can use the in-game browser, advanced players a tool like Gamespy or ASE. They cover almost all games and have advanced filtering systems and other toys. No need, no need at all to have another one.

    3. Automatic updates- nice, but it requires to have the steamdemon running all the time, then suddenly starting a 90 MB download like the latest HL-patch without notifying you. If you are a beginner and play alone, and you are happy with your game, why upgrading? Never change a running system! If you are a geek or suddenly can't log in to your favorite game server because he switched to another version, well off you go to d/l the patch. Is there a need to have a tool watching in realtime if there might be an upgrade? No need, no need at all. Sucks bandwidth and processor time for being idle 99.9% of the time.

    4. Access to special Valve stuff, like Movies. So, they reinvented ftp-Servers? One URL: http://www.valve.com/movies. And please, with a screenshot or sth, modern browsers are capapable of that, and some additional information. Do I need a special tool telling me there is a 500 MB movie and if I want to download, I can just click on the name? No need, no need at all.

    5. Game download. Well, I think you can guess what I will write about it, you should by now. 2 words: Website. Credit card.

    Just for the record: HL is for me the greatest game ever so far, and I am sure HL2 will meet my high expectations (and will push id from the throne, finally).
    I am just disappointed of the steam-Hype.

    1. Re:So what's the point of Steam? by phunhippy · · Score: 1

      1. yeah IM.. its great for ppl you play CS with because it'll save the messages between games and you can check em while your dead and not have to disconnect or go through the pains of swapping out of HL..

      2. Yeah server browse isn't great.. but lets see how well it supports all the crazy mods out there in the full release ok?

      3. Auto Updates are great.. specially if i can specify my fileshack.com account into it

      4. fluff.. well you dunt need to DL it..

      5. GAME DOWNLOAD IS AWESOME.. now i don't need to go to the store to buy HL2 since i won't keep the wrappers anyway.. perfect.. I can DL it the moment it's available.. i think its highly convient and about time.

      So give it a chance.. this stuff can end up being really useful me thinks..

    2. Re:So what's the point of Steam? by Mike+Hawk · · Score: 1

      5. Except if the Steam server goes down. Whoops, can't play that copy of HL2 you "bought". The copy I buy I will even be able to use OFFLINE. Imagine that.

    3. Re:So what's the point of Steam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi,

      1. yeah IM.. its great for ppl you play CS with because it'll save the messages between games and you can check em while your dead and not have to disconnect or go through the pains of swapping out of HL..

      But you know the console, right? You can chat there as much as you like! You can dump the console output to a file and there it is, saved! I am not sure if you can chat to a single player right now, but it's sure easy to implement (did some coding for Q2 once...). And if they could fix the HL-Engine to support ALT-TAB, you can use your favorite IM. ALT-TAB will be supported in HL2, by the way...

      2. Yeah server browse isn't great.. but lets see how well it supports all the crazy mods out there in the full release ok?

      Is there a mod which is not supported by ASE? Serious question, could might as well be...but as you say, let's see how many mods steam will support...it's an editors choice. ASFAIK, there is no way to add custom mods to your gametab in steam.

      3. Auto Updates are great.. specially if i can specify my fileshack.com account into it

      I don't know how often you update, I do it, like, 1 time in 1-2 months, and I consider myself a serious gamer. Not cutting edge, but serious. Once a necessary update is out, I get to know it within days without actively looking by myself...most times, because server versions switch...I don't know, but I don't need a tool for auto-doing a download...

      4. fluff.. well you dunt need to DL it..

      Well, but I want to DL it! I want to see those movies! Just why don't they put it on their website, instead of developing a tool to DL it, with almost no information and no screenshot? They could just send a link instead!

      5. GAME DOWNLOAD IS AWESOME.. now i don't need to go to the store to buy HL2 since i won't keep the wrappers anyway.. perfect.. I can DL it the moment it's available.. i think its highly convient and about time.

      Ok, let me clarify: What's the difference to go to, say, http://www.valve.com/instantdownload and pay with your credit card before DL or after it to receive a key? What advantage does steam offer here?

      So give it a chance.. this stuff can end up being really useful me thinks..

      I am not convinced. It's a bundle of tools, all with a certain use for their own, but all better handled elsewhere and/or more convenient in the traditional ways.

      I don't say "Steam is bad, don't use it!" I just don't see the need for me, and most players. I don't get the point.

  17. Re:Sh*t :( by Mourice · · Score: 1

    Uh, who said anything about DRM? DRM stands for digital rights management. I don't see anything on that site mentioning that they would restrict use or distribution of the digital content in question.

    There are many ways to "manage" digital content, including, but certainly not limited to, keeping all your installed mods up-to-date and the ability to download any mod without fumbling with version numbers and DLLs and maps to get to play for the first time.

    It might be a good idea to keep your terms straight.

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  18. not impressed by mutewinter · · Score: 1

    If this wasn't HL/CS we were talking about here, I'd probably have little tolerance for Steam. Why do I want a program running in the background for some game I might play once a week? If every game in the future runs like Steam, its not going to be pretty. Not to mention the whole dial up thing, thank god I migrated to broadband when I did.

  19. nah... by i+chose+quality · · Score: 1

    vaporware! :)

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    i am not at it
    what a waste of ressources
  20. Steam... by captainstupid · · Score: 1

    It seems like Steam is nothing but a DRM scheme full of hot air.

    See my post here...

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