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Matrix Reloaded on DVD Before Revolutions

SycloneFX noted that the Matrix Reloaded will be available on DVD on Oct 14, just 3 weeks before the release of Revolutions. This is noteworthy because normally there are large time spans between releases of DVDs and Sequels (although LotR had a special edition released only a few weeks before TTT).

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  1. Yeesh! by TopShelf · · Score: 5, Funny

    What timing - sounds like October will be "all Matrix, all the time." I think I'll have to load up on those red-hot cinnamon candies that look like the "red pill." Any Agent Smiths or Neo's that show up at my door on Halloween can head right back to their dreamworld...

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    1. Re:Yeesh! by cshark · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I can't wait! You know, the motion picture industry is so much smarter than the music industry. When the music industry starts freaking out about sales, they start suing people. When the motion picture industry starts freaking out about sales, they start messing with new marketing schemes and incentives that actually give people a reason the buy their products. I hope we see more of this kind of innovation from the motion picture industry in the coming years.

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    2. Re:Yeesh! by clem · · Score: 5, Funny

      the blue one was to go back to the dream world

      Well then, keep a stock of NyQuil gelcaps on hand for the trick-or-treaters. That oughta send 'em back to dream world.

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    3. Re:Yeesh! by JohnRlI · · Score: 3, Insightful

      YEs, which is why they release Terminator 3 in the States a month before they do over here, and then they wonder why people download films. The fact of the matter is most of the films I download I do so because I can't currently buy them. Maybe if they provided an actual product for us to "steal" sales from then they could have some sort of complaint.

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    4. Re:Yeesh! by detritus. · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When the motion picture industry starts freaking out about sales, they start messing with new marketing schemes and incentives that actually give people a reason the buy their products.

      You mean how they release a movie on DVD, wait 6 months, then screw the customer when they intentionally release a special edition of the DVD with never-before-seen footage, extra commentary, etc...

      They definitely give you a reason to buy their products, or re-buy their products..

      Mark my words -- next year we'll see a Matrix trilogy boxset coming out, with extra content, etc.. that will leave all the people who bought the movies when they first were released on DVD, pissed off with no choice to once-again buy the same movie.

      Yeah, until the Matrix Trilogy box set comes out, with 60 minutes of never before seen footage, extra director's commentary, etc...

    5. Re:Yeesh! by realdpk · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, really. I gave the MPAA my credit card details to keep on file. Now they won't stop using it to buy me the first DVD release and then all of the subsequent special releases. It's out of control!

      If only I had a choice not to buy all of those DVDs, what a wonderous world that would be.

    6. Re:Yeesh! by captainktainer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think that's his point. Hateful or not, it brings in the money. Exploiting human psychology to sell a product is fine as long as everyone involved knows what's going to happen- yes, there will be a "value added" release several months after the original DVD is sold. Caveat emptor- let the buyer beware.

      If you don't want to play their game then don't buy the initial product. It is a *choice* you must make- whether to succumb to instant gratification or delay gratification until a point where you can maximize your enjoyment. The motion picture industries are continuing a time-honored tradition of exploiting the human desire for instant gratification. Exploitative? Maybe. Cynical? Absolutely. Wrong? I don't believe so.

      Personally, I think this plan is marketing genius- the people who see the DVD are going to remember how very cool the second movie was and will be even more exciting about seeing the third film. Cynicism aside, it's probably the best way to promote co-produced sequels like this, and I'm glad that for once the studios seem to be showing a little bit of respect for a film.

    7. Re:Yeesh! by ccnull · · Score: 4, Informative

      In fairness to Hollywood (which I am loath to provide), this is sometimes a distribution problem. T3 is being distributed by no fewer than 8 different companies, each with a slice of the world where they can play. The rights issues are so convoluted that it's a surprise movies like this ever hit screens at all.

      Contrast that with Matrix 2, which was distributed by Warner Bros. in almost every country and which hit within a week of the US release in nearly all of them.

      Just something to think about. I don't think there's a conspiracy to screw you just because you're (presumably) in Europe.

      Or is there...

    8. Re:Yeesh! by indead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You mean how they release a movie on DVD, wait 6 months, then screw the customer when they intentionally release a special edition of the DVD with never-before-seen footage, extra commentary, etc...

      How is that "screwing" you? You don't have to buy either version, you know.

    9. Re:Yeesh! by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It's just another intelligence test. The smart people will download starting with a torrent and wait for the boxed set to come out, then buy that.

      Sure, it's not illegal, but it's not really immoral IMO. Plus, the only thing a corporation understands is monetary feedback. If you hold off on buying the movie, but buy it later when it has the features you want, then it sends a clear signal that you want the special features. Meanwhile, if you are going to buy it later, you're not stealing the content, you're getting an advance copy :D (Not that it's ever theft, it's copyright violation. But anyway.)

      I'm sure tons of people are painting my comment as rationalization, and it is, as far as any justification for any activity is. After all, buying sneakers which are made in another country with what is essentially slave labor and thus denying your home country the revenues plus encouraging companies to move their labor overseas to save a buck or two isn't really bad, because those people would just starve to death, right? They're glad to make US$1 a day gluing soles and being exposed to noxious chemicals without protection!

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  2. I'll wait. by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm still trying to figure out the first one.

    1. Re:I'll wait. by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny
      I'm still trying to figure out the first one.

      Carrie Ann Moss is Bill's mom, and she's still hot. Remember when she was a Senior, and they were Freshmen?

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  3. The plan all along... by Richardsonke1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This was the plan all along. The reason why the film is coming out at this time is because this is the earliest they could release it. The said that they were doing this because the cliff-hanger at the end of the second movie was so much that they would be killed if they waited the normal amount of time to release the sequel.

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    1. Re:The plan all along... by Prior+Restraint · · Score: 3, Funny

      Um. The cliffhanger was that the only survivor was the guy "possessed" by Agent Smith. You know, the guy who's trying to kill Neo? Admittedly, it's kind of hard to tell because he's upside down.

      "The Whatchamacallit brothers". Now that's comedy!

    2. Re:The plan all along... by ceejayoz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Looks like you missed something.

      The single survivor is none other than Agent Smith.

      The body is that of the person Smith punches in the chest, then dials out of the Matrix in Neo's prophecy/dream. He's also the guy who cut his hand up with a knife while preparing to stab Neo in Zion, before he was interrupted. Undoubtedly he's the reason the EMP went off early and caused the counterattack to fail miserably, too.

    3. Re:The plan all along... by Daengbo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm no Matrix fan, but I have the DVD besause, you know, the whhooosh stuff. Anyway, I took my GF to see Reloaded, and I say this: if the first minute and the last minute of the movie totally destroy my suspension of disbelief, then how am I supposed to get into it?
      I walked out of the room when I say The Matrix because of the junior high philosophy being thrown at me, but this was totally beyond that. This was absolute disregard for self consistancy. How do you get premonitions in the real world about what will happen in a computer simulation? How do you take your power out of that simulation and into the real world?
      I saw a much better treatment of the whole "what is real?" philosophical mumbo jumbo in a movie called "The Thirteenth Floor." A computer company makes a simulation for people's amusement, and it explores the moral side of the AI problem. No great special effects, but a much more solid story line.

    4. Re:The plan all along... by Ferrule · · Score: 2, Informative

      Holy, you all missed something. Didn't you notice it was a little strange when Neo stopped those robot critters in the real world?

      That's the cliff hanger.

    5. Re:The plan all along... by mattsucks · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh know the movie doesn't spoon feed me a happy end whatever shall I do?

      Because there is no ... oh, never mind.

    6. Re:The plan all along... by SpryGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My favorite quote from the Architect is how Neo is the integral sum of a set of remainders that accumulated over time.

      Thus, not only is "Neo" an anagram of "One", he really IS "The One"... the integral sum of remainders. The number one.

      I loved that. I dunno why, but I just thought it was cool.

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    7. Re:The plan all along... by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In the early days of the Matrix they experienced problems due to free will and people wanting to have a choice. Certain minds could not accept the Matrix because they had no choice in the matter. These were the first people to be known as "The One".

      Overtime, the machines devised a method of keeping the human mind content -- by offering them the choice. They could choose to live in the Matrix, or they could choose to live in "the real world" and fight against the Matrix. Hence, the red and blue pills.

      What the humans fail to realise is that they are still within the Matrix. They believe they are in the real world, but that belief is the very chain holding them in the Matrix. The Matrix is multi-leveled.

      The Architect explains all this (without actually calling the real world The Matrix). And, if you recall all that Morpheus tells Neo in the beginning of the first movie, it all makes sense. Add in the whole "something isn't right, I can feel them" scene with Neo and the Sentinels (reminiscent of Neo and the Agents from the first episode) and it all starts to come together.

      It's my thinking that Neo is in a coma simply because his mind has figured out the truth, but he refuses to accept it (similar to his thinking in the first episode). In the first movie he had to die to accept the truth. Now, he just has to put himself into a coma to accept the truth.

  4. That's funny... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I could've sworn I was watching a DVD quality version a couple days before it came out. This must be some sort of typo.

  5. Additional Content by GeckoFood · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the article:

    While both the VHS and DVD will be priced for sale to consumers, the DVD includes several bonus features that should boost sales, such as a behind-the-scenes look at how the freeway chase scene was crafted and shot and the humorous parody of "The Matrix Reloaded" that was featured on the 2003 MTV Movie Awards.

    The extra content, in this case anyway, might well be worth the investment in the DVD. Any word on "Easter Eggs" on this one like there was in the original??

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    1. Re:Additional Content by schon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Remember to boycott the matrix [boycottthematrix.com]

      Interesting - I thought that Tank was written out because the Watchkowskis came to their sense and realized that the guy who played him had the acting skills of a four-year-old suffering from ADD after drinking 10 litres of Jolt Cola.

      I had no idea the guy was such a boob.

      From the site:
      "In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Chong claims he crashed a press junket, took food from WB production offices and verbally harrassed the Wachowskis via phone."

      So, let me get this straight - a no-talent hack asked for too much money - after they tell him they're not interested, he made verbal threats against the Watchkowskis, harrasses them, admits it on national television, then files a lawsuit against them for not giving in, and now he's looking for my sympathy?!?!?!

      Jebus, what color is the sky in this guy's world?

    2. Re:Additional Content by ntr0py · · Score: 3, Funny

      Jebus, what color is the sky in this guy's world?

      Likely a slight tint of green.

  6. Great... by Schezar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I can watch that rave/orgy in all its home-theatre glory. With slow-motion and freeze-frames, I'll bet I can get a good estimate of the true volume of saliva shown on screen.

    Even better, I can loop it and leave it on 24/7. I'm sure everyone in the apartment will love it!

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    1. Re:Great... by aardwolf204 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Even better. Rip the DVD. Using VirtualDUB you can cut the scene out, then share it on Kazaa! I wonder how many people would even notice/miss it?

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    2. Re:Great... by nick_drake · · Score: 3, Funny
      I remember seeing that scene at the theater and thinking "What the f*** was the point of all that?" I felt like I had wasted some of my life.

      Also, I was thinking, "Oh, okay. So all these people were 'saved' from the Matrix into dance party hell?"

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  7. New branding strategy by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Soon they will no longer just come in red and blue pills, but a variety of fruity flavors! But seriously, it's amazing how carefully people market products these days. They've got the video game tie-in (which sold well despite poor reviews and saved the publisher), the online game in the works, comics, and the obligitory action figures.

    1. Re:New branding strategy by TopShelf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm surprised they haven't come out with Red & Blue Pills already. Several months ago I toured the Jelly Belly warehouse in Wisconsin. They've put out those many-flavored beans from Harry Potter, so they'd make a natural fit for a Matrix deal...

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  8. I wonder... by borgdows · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...does the Matrix contain any SCO code ??

    1. Re:I wonder... by arcanumas · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know about SCO but i suspect that there is a good deal of Microsoft code. This is evident from the Animatrix where one of the features tells the story of a glitch in the Matrix.
      I somehow feel happy it does not run Linux. We would never escape.

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    2. Re:I wonder... by aardwolf204 · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Matrix runs on NT4, Duh! Why else do you think it keeps reloading?

      Theres a KB Article on it:

      The information in this article applies to:
      Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 for Matrix
      Microsoft Windows for Matrix 3.11
      Microsoft Windows Matrix 95

      SYMPTOMS
      Matrix reloads

      CAUSE
      Neo chooses wrong door

      RESOLUTION
      To work around these errors, rename the file door2.mtx to door1.mtx, or copy the door2.mtx file to another location. You may also be able to work around these errors if you remove unnecessary files from the root directory.

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    3. Re:I wonder... by guido1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, The Matrix runs on XP, as shown at this site.

      (English) download links page here.

    4. Re:I wonder... by Str8Dog · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was totally inspired by this post.

      http://www.str8dog.com/matrixkb/

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  9. The Domimatrix by Jack+Comics · · Score: 5, Funny

    Personally, I'm waiting for the fourth Matrix movie, "The Domimatrix." It stars a whip-wielding Carrie Ann Moss. She already has the leather part down. I figure that movie would make more sense than "Matrix Reloaded," and would also be more entertaining.

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    1. Re:The Domimatrix by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's latex, dude. Think hot, sweaty, and sticky.

      I did think hot, sweaty, and sticky Carrie Ann Moss.

      Now it's My Pants Reloaded.

  10. How is early bad? by thesiltman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can't imagine why they wouldn't come out with it before Revolutions. There has to be some people who missed it in the theater, and others will want to refresh their memory (or remember where they were left hanging...)

  11. Good! by gerf · · Score: 5, Funny

    And with the anonymous Kazaa Lite/++ up, that's just enough time for me to download a divx rip without anyone knowing! Whoops, did i post that?! /runs

    j/k MPAA, it's meant to be modded Funny, not Informative!

  12. DVD by skidrowe · · Score: 2, Funny

    It'll just be made out of silly putty, with a small hair-less child saying "There is no DVD" as it flops in your hand...to which you'll respond "Woah"

  13. Clue me in by Nick+of+NSTime · · Score: 3, Funny

    What is the Matrix?

    1. Re:Clue me in by Ann+Coulter · · Score: 5, Funny

      It is an array of coefficients repersenting a set of linear transformations.

    2. Re:Clue me in by cvas · · Score: 3, Funny

      Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.

    3. Re:Clue me in by Stradenko · · Score: 2, Informative

      From Jargon File (4.3.0, 30 APR 2001) :

      Matrix n. [FidoNet] 1. What the Opus BBS software and sysops call
      FidoNet. 2. Fanciful term for a cyberspace expected to emerge from
      current networking experiments (see the network). The name of the
      rather good 1999 cypherpunk movie "The Matrix" played on this sense,
      which however had been established for years before. 3. The totality of
      present-day computer networks (popularized in this sense by John
      Quarterman; rare outside academic literature).

    4. Re:Clue me in by ceejayoz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.

      Of course, 10 minutes later, Morpheus tells Neo what the Matrix is. Heh...

    5. Re:Clue me in by GMFTatsujin · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's the thing Leonard Nimoy and Orson Welles were after in the Transformers movie.

  14. This is a good thing by mikehilly · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe if I watch the first two at home, then that same day go watch the third one at the movies, it will all make sense.

    Probably not, but who cares?

  15. Re:huh? by Chundra · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, it's a role playing game.

  16. The Release by Waab · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is more noteworthy because the DVD is being released less than 6 months after the movie first hit the theaters. That's insanely fast. Of course, so is releasing the next movie in the series without a gap of a at least a year.

    But, as the editor pointed out, movies in the LotR series have had DVD releases just prior to the theatrical release of the next film.

    1. Re:The Release by Decaffeinated+Jedi · · Score: 3, Funny
      That's nothing! How about the Bruce Willis flick, Tears of the Sun?

      Theatrical release: Mar 7, 2003
      Video release: Jun 10, 2003

      You'd practically have to go direct-to-video to beat that.

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    2. Re:The Release by Matrix272 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that the movie more or less tanked in theatres.

      Tanked? It's number 19 on the ALL-TIME BOX OFFICE with over $270,000,000, not including overseas. Worldwide, before all is said and done, it'll probably make $600,000,000. Hell, if that's doing terribly, sign me up.

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    3. Re:The Release by babbage · · Score: 2, Interesting
      In the first week. I seem to remember it falling off pretty quickly after that. At the price of tickets these days, a seemingly big number doesn't translate into as many viewers as it used to, and as expensive as the production & marketing of a big modern summer movie is, I bet it won't be nearly as profitable as, say, "A Mighty Wind".

      Not that profit is everything of course, but in this case I think there's a lot to be said for the smaller, more nuanced, and yes probably more profitable movie than the big summer "tits & explosions" kind of movie like Matrix or XXX.

      YMMV of course, but then given your username, you might be slightly biased... :-)

  17. This is good news.... by phorm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    for those who haven't watched the movie in theatre yet. After explaining the "to be continued" ending to a friend, he mentioned he wouldn't be watching the movie in theatre.

    I was surprised, and wondered if he would really be turned off watching the movie entirely because of the ending - however his plan is to get the DVD, and watch it the day before Revolutions.

    Sounds like a good deal for those who haven't seen "Reloaded" yet, as you can see both movies at about the same time if you grab the DVD.

    1. Re:This is good news.... by dnoyeb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree totally. To be continued is the cheapest most unprofessional ending ever. Its crap.

      A good story has resolution. A soap does not. That ended like a soap and resolved NONE of the issues it brought up. It did not advance the story. I was NOT pleased. In fact I was very disappointed. They put too much money into frills and not enough into the fundamentals.

    2. Re:This is good news.... by ErikTheRed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sounds like a good deal for those who haven't seen "Reloaded" yet, as you can see both movies at about the same time if you grab the DVD.

      Oh yeah, /. is just overflowing with people who haven't seen "Reloaded". 15 times. In the last week.
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    3. Re:This is good news.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That ended like a soap and resolved NONE of the issues it brought up. It did not advance the story. I was NOT pleased.

      You are NOT very observant, then.

      Here's how it worked. The Whatchamacallit Brothers went to Village Roadshow/WB and said, "Here's our script. It's 300 pages long."

      VR/WB said, "Great. Love it. Cut 180 pages."

      TWB said, "Uh... we'd rather not. How about we make a 5-hour movie instead and release it with an intermission?"

      VR/WB said, "Uh... we'd rather not. How about you make two movies?"

      TWB said, "Uh... we'd rather not. How about we make one 5-hour movie and split it down the middle, release 'em six months apart?"

      VR/WB said, "How much money will this make us?"

      TWB said, "Billions."

      VR/WB said, "Okie-dokie."

      As a result "The Burly Man," the sequel to "The Matrix," is a five-hour movie that's been split right down the middle (not especially at the best place, either) to turn it into two 2-1/2 hour movies.

      You watched the first half, got up, and went home. And here you are, bitching about resolution.

    4. Re:This is good news.... by bucky0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not to troll, but how was the ending to Fellowship of the Ring any different? The action had an abrupt end with no resolution. The only difference is that they went straight to the credits instead of to a "To be concluded..." banner.

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    5. Re:This is good news.... by BTWR · · Score: 2, Funny

      To be continued is the cheapest most unprofessional ending ever

      Oh no you didn't... you did not just insult my favorite movie EVER... Back to the Future!

  18. Makes sense to me by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 5, Informative


    Seems like the logical thing to do. Release a DVD of the last movie, getting the Matrix franchise back in people's minds. People can watch Reloaded to refresh their memories on the plot so far before going to see Revolutions. A buzz builds in anticipation of the upcoming theatrical release.

    It's just "strategized marketechture" at work.

  19. Think it twice by cniebla · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why bother to buy this DVD? You could wait a little longer and have the "Ultra-Special Gazillion-DVD Bundle-Bonanza" with all the bells and whistles, for a discount, a little after the release of the final installment of the Matrix saga (or any other saga).

    Its plain stupid to be on a rush and go get the movies in separated DVDs, you'll end with less features, needing to sale them on E-Bay just to buy the final-special-edition.

    A shame...

  20. PEZ? by not_a_george · · Score: 2, Funny

    forget all that, WHEN DO I GET MY NEO PEZ DISPENSER?
    They cannot deny me my life giving PEZ!!!

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  21. Newsworthy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since when did "Marketing Ploy" start meaning "Newsworthy"???

  22. Matrix: RECARGADO by thegnu · · Score: 4, Funny

    the funny thing about matrix: reloaded here in mexico is the translation. recargado is reloaded, but also "leaning on something"

    so it looks to be the most mellow matix so far.

    neo! he fights! he flies! he smokes marijuana! then he leans on shit for a while!

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  23. Re:Disgusting by Jad+LaFields · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Since when was film supposed to be art? It can be art, you can decide to only watch 'art' films, but for others of us, we like the occaisional popcorn film. Nothing wrong with that. It's like saying cars are supposed to be sports cars.

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  24. that DVD better be high quality.... by Gorphrim · · Score: 5, Funny

    ....hopefully they'll base it off the Centropy release....

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  25. Re:cha ching .. by agentZ · · Score: 5, Funny

    To paraphrase, I wish I had a daughter so I could forbid her to marry you.

  26. Re:Disgusting by Carbonite · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does this strike anybody as disgusting, or odd.

    No, not really. The Wachowskis came up with a story that would take 4-5 hours of screen time. They had several choices:

    - Make one movie with a running time of 4-5 hours. This would never be accepted by theaters or Warner Bros.

    - Cut half of the script, leaving one standard length film. No artist would want half of their work to be thrown out.

    - Make two films, each of standard length. This obviously was the preferred choice.

    Now, given that two movies were going to be made based on one plot, it made sense to film them together. If you prefer to think of it as one movie with a six month intermission, feel free.

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  27. Re:What the flying dutchman is going on here? by Jack+Comics · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let's see. Boycott the MPAA and the RIAA! And as someone else suggested in a recent thread a few days ago, boycott books as well. If you don't want to support something, that's all fine and dandy, but you have to pick your battles. If you start or join too many, you wind up injuring yourself, and not the intended party(ies).

    There's only so much that geeks enjoy. Outside of computer hobbies such as programming and gaming, books, movies, and music make up the vast majority of down time for the average geek. What do we do when we decide to boycott all of them? Our down time will start to seem like work and become down-right depressing, because you're straining yourself to find something to do, when there's something you enjoy but you're forcing yourself not to.

    For instance, I boycott McDonald's and the Olive Garden. As to why, I won't get into that. But if I decide to boycott all fast-food chains and restaurants altogether, I'm severely limiting myself as to what I can eat if I'm not at home, and even limiting myself when I am home, if everyone else feels like ordering out and such. I wouldn't be able to partake in dinner with my family and friends, which is considered by many to be a bonding experience. Why hurt me and hurt others and not eat and share dinner with my family and friends at the four star Chinese restaurant down the street, just because I don't like McDonald's and the Olive Garden?

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  28. Spoiler **WARNING** by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Neo has something to do with the Matrix.

  29. This is a good thing... by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

    This means I can skip past the "slow zoom out from Keanu Reeves's ass" scene. Not to mention the part where Morpheus is speaking to the crowd at Zion and trying to be all tough and authoritative with his massive gut hanging out.

    Really, any version of the movie where I can skip over the entire Zion sequence will instantly make this movie 10 times better.

  30. Resist the urge to buy!!! by Infernon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Resist your urges to buy this DVD! You know that they're going to release a trilogy box set deal after the third movie and that you're going to want that as well...
    willpower...fading...must...not...buy...

    1. Re:Resist the urge to buy!!! by slackr · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's why I still haven't bought Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey.

      Keanu will come back. Any day now...

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  31. Obvious of course, but... by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I really like to watch an original movie just before the sequel, if possible.

    Also, a new and diabolical tactic they are using now is to include different special features on different DVD sets - so the extras here (which look to be pretty good) may well not even be on the Special Ultimate Uranium Edition, or The Matrix Thoughtfully Reconsidered.

    Translation: I'm buying the DVD.

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  32. Must be some mistake by djupedal · · Score: 5, Funny

    I picked up a copy of Reloaded on DVD over a month ago... in Seoul....what's with this October noise :)

  33. I disagree. by Murdock037 · · Score: 5, Informative
    The extra content, in this case anyway, might well be worth the investment in the DVD.

    This seems like a pretty half-assed DVD to me. We all know the term "Special Edition" has no meaning anymore, but it's pretty obvious they've rushed this out to coincide with the release of Revolutions.

    Take a good look at those "bonus features." It's a few featurettes, the kind of vapid press release crap you see on HBO before the movie's released. No commentary. No deleted scenes. Why do they need a second disc for this?

    There's already talk of a genuine special edition (scroll to the bottom of the article), after the Wachowskis are done with the Revolutions hoopla. If you're not willing to buy a movie twice, you're going to be kicking yourself later.
  34. Re:cha ching .. by SamBeckett · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not disturbing that you've watched it so many times.. It is disturbing that you would think we would care what formats you watched it in.

  35. TTT by Pinguu · · Score: 2, Funny

    although LotR had a special edition released only a few weeks before TTT
    Shouldn't that be T3? :)

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  36. About Time by mobileskimo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was wondering when they'd figure this one out. I mean really, is it that much a brain surgery to guess that releasing the DVD just as the movie ticket sales drop would be a good idea? Wait the normal length of time between release and media and people say "Oh I gotta get this on DVD!" and then forget. Put the video out after the theatre experience is still somewhat fresh in their memory and maybe you get more sales? I'd be surprised if more movies don't do this. Am I missing something here?

    BTW, I'm not purchasing this DVD. Why collect media at all anymore? I have only one answer to this. Transport of large amounts is still cheaper and faster by foot. Other than that, Net becoming fast ubiquitous, I think I'll make the leap and commit to media-less entertainment.

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    1. Re:About Time by bucky0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      BTW, I'm not purchasing this DVD. Why collect media at all anymore? I have only one answer to this. Transport of large amounts is still cheaper and faster by foot. Other than that, Net becoming fast ubiquitous, I think I'll make the leap and commit to media-less entertainment.

      Even is you don't want to collect media, you should still buy it so that the people who made it can get paid. Commiting to media-less entertainment hurts the people that entertain you(If I interpreted your comment correctly (I.E. you're just gonna kazaa it))

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  37. How many of you waited past closing credits? by baywulf · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you sit through all the closing credits on Matrix Reloaded, there is a small preview of Matrix Revolutions.

  38. Incorrect by Col.+Panic · · Score: 2, Informative

    "This is your last chance. After this there is no turning back. You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.... Remember, all I'm offering is the truth, nothing more...."
    --Morpheus

  39. Is it just me by roystgnr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or did the Wachowski brothers lose about a thousand geek points by not naming their sequels something like "Matrix Product" and "Matrix Inverse"?

  40. Re:"Investing" in DVDs by CashCarSTAR · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That is why I purchase media that I really enjoy. (Well, aside from the increased quality)

    I want to reward stuff that I like, so they can keep on making more of that stuff. I'm voting with my wallet.

    One of the problems I see, is that a lot of people don't vote with their wallet anymore, which skewers the types of projects that are undertaken. (Although when it comes to movies, the CW is rather positive I think)

  41. First hand experience by RobertKozak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I live in LA and the other day on the bus I saw a young man carrying a couple of DVDs. Being curious I read the titles. One of them was Matrix Reloaded. I was very surprised.

    I mentioned this to a friend of mine and he tells me they have already been mastered and dupped.

    As a side note someone else I know has a copy on VCD in english and the "translated english" subtitles are very very humerous.

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  42. "To be continued..." hurt Reloaded? by apetime · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Lots of people are complaining about the cliffhanger at the end of Reloaded, but I think the ending hurt the movie in a different way..

    If you have a movie that ends abruptly, then the main thing that's going to stick in peoples' minds after they get out of the theatre is "Oh God.. I can't want to see the next one.." NOT "I can't wait to see that again." That's why Reloaded fell from first place so quickly. It's not that people didn't like it, but that, apart from the geeks who want to analyze every bit of the movie, nobody is going to go see a movie that leaves them high and dry again and again.

    I predict Revolutions is going to dominate the box offices at the end of this year, with people going to see it over and over, because it (should) have a satisfying ending. And, if the studios are smart, they'll make sure to put the whole Matrix+Reloaded+Revolutions 6 hour epic out in limited release in theatres.

  43. Re:build up the hype machine by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who cares how much money it made? I want to see the number of tickets sold for each movie. Tabulating total ticket prices is irrelevant as there are so many different price points for tickets (matinee, weekend, cheap night, regular, adult, child, senior, youth, etc).

    The only metric worth tracking is number of tickets sold. Yet no one ever tracks them.

  44. Some of us... by alexjohns · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...have enough money to buy both. It's not stupid to buy stuff you want, generally. Yes it's stupid to waste your money on cigarettes. Unless you're one of those people who are addicted (or just really, really like them). It's stupid to buy junk food. Unless you're addicted. It's stupid to buy an SUV, unless you don't care about the environment. Or just value your personal safety over that of the environment.

    It's not stupid to buy this DVD if it allows you to watch the first and second movie just before the third one comes out. I don't have an eidetic memory, so don't you think my enjoyment of the third movie would be heightened if I can have the previous one fresh in my mind when I see it?

    What I think is stupid is to call other people stupid. You know nothing about me. My wants, desires, needs. My likes and dislikes. My IQ. My common sense. Calling me stupid is an insult to stupid people. Or something.

  45. So he was correct! by PetiePooo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Lets take Cynikal's post:
    ...the red pill was to "wake up" into the real world...

    And then the quote from Morpheus:
    You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

    ...Both meaning you want to exit the matrix. Staying in wonderland is a bit misleading, as it implies the made-up world that is the matrix, but I believe the Wachowski brothers did that intentionally. Morpheus can only show "how deep the rabbit hole goes" if neo steps out of the matrix. The next comparison should cement this point.

    Cynikal's post:
    ...the blue one was to go back to the dream world...

    And the quote from Morpheus:
    You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.

    Once again, a bit misleading, since the story ending implies leaving the matrix. However, you can only believe whatever you want to believe if you're still in the matrix.

    The clincher is that Neo swallows the red pill in order to exit the matrix.

  46. Re:Film... an art?? by Requiem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Pi. The Seven Samurai. Amadeus. Requiem for a Dream. You pretentious fuck: 90% of everything is crap, and that includes the film industry.

    Unlike the AC that replied to your post, I'm not afraid to put my name to this.

  47. Re:Film... an art?? by kalidasa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What indications led you to believe that film was supposed to be an art?

    I dunno, probably the intensity of the steps scene in Eisenstien's Potemkin, the sublimity of Kelvin's final vision of Earth in Tarkovsky's Solaris, Wender's angels watching over a divided Berlin in Wings of Desire . . . .

  48. Re:Film... an art?? by malocchio · · Score: 4, Insightful

    indications that film = art? hrmmm.... The Godfather, Ken Burns documentaries, Casablanca, some old westerns, hundreds others... Film, if done correctly, can bring to you everything a novel doesn't only minus literary technique. The combination of an exhilierating audio and visual experience that tells a story, makes an author's point, plays with ideas--how is that not art? If anything, film is the newest, most unmastered and yet most powerful artform that exists today.

    Even The Matrix, I have never seen another movie that attempts to bring metaphysics to the big screen.

  49. Perfect sense... by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This makes perfect sense to me. I was thinking about it the other day. When people walk out of the theaters after viewing a great movie, they want to buy it on DVD. For most movies, this isn't possible, and the people have to wait. But if the movie they just saw was a sequel, and its predecessor is available for purchase, the people will run out and buy it. So, to release a DVD weeks before its sequel comes out is marketing genius. It hypes the upcoming sequel and itself, and if the sequel is great in the theaters, the first will sell great for the home.

  50. I wish I could mod higher than 5. by sethadam1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That is friggin gut busting. Awesome.

  51. A new breakthrough in home video marketing! by PostConsumerRecycled · · Score: 2, Funny
    Dark Helmet: "Colonel Sandurz can I speak with you a moment please ... How can we get Spaceballs the movie we're still in the middle of making it."

    In the future Spaceballs will be a reality, but then again "even in the future nothing works!"

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