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Skydiving Across the English Channel

loonix_gangsta writes "Felix Baumgartner, an Austrian, has become the first person to skydive 35 km (22 miles) across the English Channel. Wearing a jumpsuit with a large carbon fin strapped to his back he reached speeds of up to 360 km/h. The whole flight took approximately 14 minutes. The newsitem is being covered by the BBC, SkyNews and CNN."

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  1. Re:Skydiving? by mjh · · Score: 3, Informative

    Exactly! The BBC article mentioned that he was in "free fall"! I've got about 900 skydives, and if you've got wings attached to you, that ain't free fall... at least it wasn't when I was skydiving.

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  2. Re:Hmm.. by Raindeer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since your replies seem to suggest your sincere, I thought I'd give a reply.

    Jumping from the height this guy was on, means you have less drag, but the drag increases when you go lower, until he reaches the lower parts of the atmosphere where unpowered flight seems to be limited to about 220kph. Now would he have jumped out at 30km height, he would have broken the sound barrier and then, slowed down to 220kph.

    This ofcourse holds untill the density goes (quite abruptly) up to that of solid rock, at which point velocity goes down to zero.

  3. Re:Hmm.. by bakreule · · Score: 4, Informative
    Normal behavior for a skydiver is to fall out of a plane, accellerate up to terminal velocity, maintain that speed for a while, then open your parachute, which slows you down to a lower terminal velocity, then hit the ground and (hopefully) stop.

    If this is a troll, I'll bite, but since there are two comments in the same vein, I don't think it is. Unless the trolls are teaming up.. dear god..

    Speaking from skydiving experience, if you open your parachute at 360kph, the parachute will be ripped right off your back and probably break a few bones in the process.

    Even during a "normal" skydive the diver can accelerate to around 160mph (sorry for the sudden unit switch) by falling vertically. However, before deploying the parachute, the skydiver must slow themselves down by going into the "neutral" position: arched back, hands and legs out. This will slow the diver down to around 120mph, which is safe to deploy the canopy.

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  4. Re:What if they had these in the twin towers? by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 3, Informative

    Turbulence in from the wind moving around the buildings would be a problem, that would probably make it as bad of an option as jumping.

    Plus a glass desktop cover is going to be heavy and it don't have an airfoil to it so it's going to drop like a piece of glass and get a flutter to it.

    http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/cameo/dr_al oh a/terrain/terrain.html

    "Even if air flow into New York City is relatively steady and the winds predictable, ALOHA's first assumption is not likely to be met within the city itself. Buildings may block and divert the wind. Air flowing past large obstructions such as buildings forms into turbulent eddies, just as eddies form immediately downstream of a boulder or bridge piling in a river. Air flowing across an urban landscape composed of many buildings breaks up into irregular patterns of eddies of various sizes, speeds, and strengths. Winds blowing through city streets can speed up, slow down, and markedly change direction. In fact, wind blowing past an obstruction such as a building sometimes can completely reverse direction. "

    "New York City contains many "street canyons" long, straight through streets bordered by tall buildings. A street canyon can funnel the wind at a speed and in a direction different from what a user may have entered into ALOHA. Similarly, it can act to channel a cloud. The cloud, prevented by the walls of buildings from dispersing in the crosswind direction, may travel much farther downwind than ALOHA would predict before diluting below the level of concern."

    That link is in relation to computer modeling of NBC weapons release in an urban setting, but it talks about the complexity of winds in a city.

    Velocity doesn't make something fly or glide, it's the lift provided from the wing. The basic idea is that a flow over a curved surface has lower pressure than the flow over a flat surface, so you curve the top of a wing and the lower pressure there allows the wing to create lift. The faster the flow is the more lift you get, which is why aircraft need engines to provide foreward movement.

    http://www.aa.washington.edu/faculty/eberhardt/l if t.htm

  5. Re:Leo Valentin FWIW by cyber_rigger · · Score: 3, Informative
  6. Someone made a mistake by luugi · · Score: 4, Informative
    CNN says

    "God of the Skies" covered a distance of 35 kilometers (20 miles) during his flight, reaching speeds of up to 200 kilometers an hour.


    BBC says:

    Mr Baumgartner said the plane was at 30,000 ft (9,000 m) when he jumped - and he initially reached speeds of 360 km (220 miles) per hour. For most of the freefall, he was travelling at about 220 km (135 miles) per hour, he said.
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  7. Not on Earth, he wouldn't. by MisterSquid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Now would he have jumped out at 30km height, he would have broken the sound barrier and then, slowed down to 220kph.

    Mach I at 30 km (18.6 miles) is about 675 mph. He was travelling, at his fastest, at 360 kmh (200 mph), nowhere near the sound barrier at any altitude. The sound barrier increases and decreases even as altitude increases, but it never goes lower than about 660 mph. Here's a chart of Mach 1 at different altitudes.

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    1. Re:Not on Earth, he wouldn't. by atomicdragon · · Score: 3, Informative

      I believe the post was referring to the jump made by US Air Force Captain Joseph Kittinger who jumped from roughly 30 km and nearly broke the sound barrier in 1960. His maximum speed was 614 mph, which is about mach 0.91. He probably could have gone faster than sound had he jumped a little higher and/or opened his chute later. Google his name and you will find more info.