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Garmin iQue 3600

W33dz writes "Several sources are talking today about Garmin's new iQue 3600. This lovely new gadget runs on Palm's OS 5.2 and features an onboard GPS system. Garmin has a long history of being a top GPS manufacturer and has created a neat little device that you can see reviewed here (MSNBC) and here (InfoSync)."

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  1. backordered by Dare+nMc · · Score: 3, Funny

    crap, and I wanted to get mine before it was posted to slashdot.

  2. Voice guidance? by mmoncur · · Score: 5, Funny

    > The iQue 3600 is the first PDA to include integrated GPS technology.
    > With the power of Palm OS(R) 5 and the dependability of Garmin(R) GPS technology,
    > this "Super PDA" redefines multi-tasking. Our integrated software not only
    > allows you to look up appointments or contacts, but also locates and routes
    > you to them with voice-guidance commands!

    Impressive, although I imagine voice guidance is going to sound very cheesy coming out of a tiny machine like this. And embarrassing. (Did your coat pocket just say "turn 90 degrees left"?)

    You may now begin the usual "How long will it take for someone to put Linux on one of these" discussion.

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    1. Re:Voice guidance? by jared_hanson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The audio system on the new Palm devices sounds remarkably good, all things considered. I own a Tungsten|T, and MP3 plays sounds OK on it. It's no expensive stereo with surround sound, but from a mobile device it is more than acceptable.

      The cheese voice is going to result from a limited vocabulary size, due to the limited memory on a Palm. As noted in one article, the device does not say street names. If some decent sounding voice systhesis engine could be put on Palm OS, that would make voice commands much, much more practicle.

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    2. Re:Voice guidance? by bellers · · Score: 4, Funny
      >And embarrassing. (Did your coat pocket just say "turn 90 degrees left"?)

      If you think that's bad, just wait until your pants tell everyone within earshot to head south.

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  3. Cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now I can say I have an "iQue of 3600" and be telling the truth.

  4. Serious Flaw by kraksmokr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The iQue does not come with any built in wireless networking. That seriously limits its ability to be used as a transponder.

    1. Re:Serious Flaw by nomadic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My shoes can't be used as transponders either. It's only a flaw if the iQue was meant to be a transponder, which I don't think it was.

  5. crap by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Dang...my color StreetPilot seems to be obsolete now. The only thing it has left going in its favor is its shape, which sits well on a dashboard. I paid $530 for it back in 2000, and it serves me well. I knew a guy who had a lay-flat GPS, and it was a pain for him to drive and watch it at the same time.

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  6. Compatibility? by BWJones · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, one of the frustrating things about being on a Mac has been the almost total lack of GPS software available for OS X and GPS devices. What I can't seem to find out from the site is if downloading new maps requires Windows? If the maps are platform independent, Garmin has just made a sale.

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    1. Re:Compatibility? by NilObject · · Score: 4, Informative
    2. Re:Compatibility? by plastik55 · · Score: 2, Informative

      None of those do street mapping or route finding, which is what most people need.

      Of the handheld street mapping software that exists, Delorme's Street Atlas USA Handheld requires you to download its maps to the handheld from a Windows PC. As does Rand McNally's TripFinder software. Mapopolis is thankfully not dependent on the host PC, but is slow and buggy as shit (at least on the Palm).

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    3. Re:Compatibility? by psxndc · · Score: 2, Informative
      what about gpsdrive?

      $fink install gpsdrive

      Not trying to be flippant, but it looks like gpsdrive does the things you're looking for. I admit I am a gps n00b (eyeing one for christmas), but from my initial research, gpsdrive does route finding.

      psxndc

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  7. Garmin charges A LOT for maps by exhilaration · · Score: 3, Informative
    You know what sucks? Spending $200 on a nifty Garmin GPS unit only to find out that you have to spend another $200 on detailed maps.

    The Garmin Legend came with a "basemap" of major highways and major roads, but there are no detailed streetmaps cuz you gotta buy Garmin's CD's for that.

    This new unit it pretty expensive, but what how much do you have to spend for the friggin maps?

    1. Re:Garmin charges A LOT for maps by Artifex · · Score: 4, Informative
      You know what sucks? Spending $200 on a nifty Garmin GPS unit only to find out that you have to spend another $200 on detailed maps.
      [...]
      This new unit it pretty expensive, but what how much do you have to spend for the friggin maps?


      You know what else sucks? People who can't read linked information before commenting on it.

      Right on this page, on the lower left it plainly says that the "MapSource(TM) City Select CD with full unlock" is included, in either North American or European versions, as well as the basemaps.

      If you don't believe that page, follow the link from the North American version to here, where it also says "MapSource(R) North America City Select v4.01 now includes full coverage for the contiguous United States and expanded coverage for Canada. This updated product (with access to all regions at no extra charge) is included with the purchase of a Garmin(R) GPS V Deluxe or iQue 3600."
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  8. Battery life. by spumoni_fettuccini · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Battery life seems very precious on the iQue. Garmin claims "approximately two weeks standby time or approximately 10 days if used an average of 30 minutes per day with backlight off. Battery life will vary depending upon temperature and individual use patterns."

    With a color screen, this is pretty good. It was mentioned it would drop to a few hours with constant use [GPS feature]. On a suckage note the baterry is not user replacable and the car adapter tops $70.

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    1. Re:Battery life. by mentin · · Score: 2, Insightful
      So what is iQue for?

      In car use? No. Real in-car GPS with larger screen is much more convinient, and already integrated with car's audio and power supply.

      Hiking trip? Again no. I surely would not take this GPS to a hiking trip - if I am lost at night, and need both GPS and backlight, its batterries will be dead in couple of hours.

      So what is the target for these devices?

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  9. Why not just buy an Ipaq by junimota · · Score: 4, Interesting

    and attach a gps sleeve to it? You could get more processing power and the gps, for much much more less than the 538 by garmin.

    1. Re:Why not just buy an Ipaq by W33dz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Have you seen how big the damn IPaq gets when you a put a sleeve on it?
      And god forbid you want a 802.11b card too. The damn thing would be 10cm deep and weigh a kilo.

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    2. Re:Why not just buy an Ipaq by CheeseMonkey · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is pretty accurate :) I did this with my iPaq + the dual slot PC card backback. One card was for a 5GB hard drive (for the maps- well, the maps and 4.5G of MP3s) the other was for the GPS. It was wholly unweilding and not really good for anything but in-card navigation.

      Also, in case anyone was wondering, PocketPC WMP sucks for playing large amounts of music. By "Large" I mean "more than 10 tracks".

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  10. Could functions clash ? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Funny

    Speaker for voice-guidance commands, MP3 player, and message playback

    So when play this, does it guide you there ?

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    1. Re:Could functions clash ? by Xerithane · · Score: 2

      So when play this, does it guide you there ?

      I think if you played that, it would guide you to 1995.

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  11. Blah by NilObject · · Score: 4, Funny
    Why is it still so fricking exciting when some company crams PalmOS on to their whatever-product and hypes it as the next generation of devices. All this really is is the by-product of a Zire, iTrex GPS Unit, some cheap wine, and a Barry White cd.

    Ooo! I can take voice memos now!

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  12. 3 hours of use. Forget that by enkidu · · Score: 3, Insightful
    To quote the msnbc review Garmin claims "approximately two weeks standby time or approximately 10 days if used an average of 30 minutes per day with backlight off. Battery life will vary depending upon temperature and individual use patterns."... In real life, expect two to three hours max if you're using the GPS features. Screw that. Is it just me or has battery life been getting worse and worse with each new batch of Palm devices? My Palm Personal did 5-6 weeks, and my four AAA Handera 330 has no problem going up to two months of light use, 1 month of moderate use. 10 days?

    I don't want more multimedia features, I want a better screen, LONGER battery life, and small and thin (Palm V). The latest trends are definitely away from the last two.

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  13. Forbes looks at the iQue x2 by Geartest.com · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I read the Forbes Garmin iQue 3600 overview last week, but it didn't seem quite so exceptional. The Garmin iQue debuted at CES this year. It looks pretty bulky due to the integrated GPS hardware but I can see its usefulness as someone who travels. At $589 for a Palm plus GPS though, the price seems truly exceptional.

  14. More relevant than a 640x480 camera by amichalo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I find this offering by Garmin to be superior to other combination PDA and fill-in-the-blank-with-MP3-Player-or-cell-phone-or -digital-camera.

    It is particularly applicable for mobile professionals who often find themselves in unfamiliar cities. The high level sales executives where I work immediately come to mind. No they aren't stupid, they just often find themselves having to get to a certain downtown meeting in a city they have been to many times visiting different clients and I am sure it would be nice to have a mobile GPS integrated with the PDA they already carry anyway. Plus it is sleek and stylish enough that even the women in the power suits would pull it out of their purse at a meeting.

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  15. Hiking with one of these. by bogamo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been working on a hiking website that uses GPS data to allow users to create and share maps. You can download trails from the website to the palm, and after hiking a never-before-mapped trail, you can donate the GPS track log and my website will add the trail to its network of trails.

    I've currently got a whole bunch of trails from the new york/ new england area.

    Check it out:

    http://www.trailregistry.com

    -Geoff

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  16. Re:3 hours of use. Forget that by Russ+Steffen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Battery life in GPSs has never been all that great, but it's gotten a lot better. I have a Rockwell-Collins Trooper GPS (manuf. circa 1992), and it will drain 8 fresh AAs in 20 minutes. If it's staring up cold, it will often not be able to get a position before the batteries die. Fortunately, it keeps almanac, ephemeris and last position in NVRAM, so it's good to go on the second set of batteries.

  17. Re:GPS Flaws by jgordon7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) If you are indoors and you do not know where you are, you need more help than a GPS unit could give you.

    2) What? The protocol for GPS has not and will not be changing, unless you are talking about selective availabilty. which changes the accuracy, yes the gov't could make it unusable. However with the number of private services that now use and rely on GPS I doubt that would happen.

    $500 for it is not too bad, considering a dedicated color GPS unit meant for the car costs MORE. And I imagine the intended use of this device is for the guy who travels alot for work. You fly into a new city get in your rental and use your PDA to find the office you need to meet at.

  18. Cool, but does it bounce? by jakedata · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My old Garmin GPS MAP12xl may only be greyscale, and twice the weight, but it is also water resistant and runs for many many hours on alkaline AA batteries. And it bounces.

    For any serious usage, such as boating or hiking, this frail-looking unit might not be a very good idea. Ever seen a palm with a shattered screen?

  19. Serious urban GPSing by fm6 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Well, I am stupid, or at least geographically challenged, and I often wish I had a handy pocket device that would tell me where I am and how to get where I need to go. But I've found affordable GPS devices pretty impractical. Perhaps if I'd spent more I could have gotten one that can quickly and reliably acquire its satellites. But inexpensive ones just don't work that well. You basically have to pull over and stand next to your car for 5 minutes. Easier to look at street signs and consult a map.

    I'm particularly suspicious of cheap GPS that claim to be motorist friendsly. (This new Garmin falls into this category despite its hefty price tag: most of what you're paying for is a very fancy PDA.) It's nice to have audio prompts for when you need to make a turn -- but if the gadget can't acquire a satellite in a moving car, that feature is pretty useless!

    Flames welcome here: if you've used a cheap urban GPS that works better than what I've described, I want to know about it!

  20. Correct Link to InfoWorld Article by Pooua · · Score: 2, Informative
    The link given in the title article has some extra letters attached to the "html" suffix. The corrected link should be http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/n/3903.html

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  21. Back in the Real World... by PetoskeyGuy · · Score: 2, Funny
    The first time I tried it a map of lower Manhattan popped right up and once I changed the detail to zoom-in on the situation, a little white triangle showed me exactly where I was standing, what direction I was facing and once I started moving, how fast I was going.

    As I started to cross the road I was facinated to watch the little white triangle that was mean cross the small red line of the road. Taxi's should show up on the screen as small yellow squares. I say should because they didn't and while I was crossing the road staring at the little screen, one of those large yellow boxes ran me down. I could even see the little white triangle that was me rapidly changing direction and increasing velocity before I blacked out. Luckily, I can still take voice dictation with my one good arm thanks to the clever controls on this fabulous device. If you don't know how to read a map or ask for directions, this could be just what your looking for.
  22. Garmin is a great company by SomeRADDude · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yesterday I checked for a firmware update of my Emap and noticed that they had fixed a minor bug and removed French as a language choice, Hurray for Garmin. http://www.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp ?id=73

  23. Re:How is it? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Informative

    Oh, it's a great unit. Especially with full color. It's designed to sit on the dashboard while driving (hence the name StreetPilot), as opposed to other GPS units which are designed to lay flat to go in the pocket for hiking (eTrex, Ique). It doesn't matter if you're moving or sitting still...I've acquired satellites on an airplane moving at 550 mph and it didn't take any longer than usual. It's rare you find an address it doesn't have...it's happened to me once as I remember, and that was in a newly-built area. If you're interested in buying it perchance, I'd be willing to entertain fair offers. I'm leaving the country soon and where I'm going I won't need a GPS. It's in top-notch condition...it's been my favorite posession and I've been quite anal about keeping it safe (and the faceplate unscratched).

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