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World's Most Advanced Portable TV

Eric Schlaepfer writes "Here's another great toy for your wish list! ICOM manufactures the highly advanced IC-R3 portable scanner/television set. Besides picking up radio stations in the frequency range of 0.495-2450MHz, the IC-R3 also receives regular television signals, amateur television, and wireless security camera signals."

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  1. Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    In case the site (or routes to the site) get slashdotted. Here is a mirror to link one, and link two.

  2. A review from someone who owns one by InterruptDescriptorT · · Score: 5, Informative

    While the Icom R-3 truly is a cool little gadget, I wish to caution those who are buying one for video monitoring purposes. It has a lot of features, to be sure, but as I found out the hard way, for the hardcore video monitoring enthusiast or TV DXer, it has some serious limitations.

    Its sensitivity is lacking, so unless it encounters a very strong video signal (especially on 2.4GHz, where a lot of wireless cameras broadcast their signals), do not expect a very watchable or even decodeable picture.

    Secondly, the video screen eats the hell out of the battery life. You'll find yourself reaching for the AC adapter quite frequently. This device tends to use the LCD screen to display a lot of configuration/tuning information, even in non-video mode, so beware if you buy this to use as a general-purpose scanner.

    After 10 months of R3 ownership, my feelings are still mixed. It's pretty cool to walk around and stumble on 2.4GHz video, especially from wireless security cameras, but as a general-purpose scanning receiver or for attempting to receive TV DX in these skip-prone months, it falls sadly short.

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    1. Re:A review from someone who owns one by hatmouse · · Score: 4, Informative

      I would add that the Icom R-3 is difficult to program. I would have like to seen more single propose instead of a few multi-funtion buttons.

    2. Re:A review from someone who owns one by foldedspace · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I had one also. I sold it on the internet a long time ago. It does eat batteries and it does have weak reception. I could unplug the antenna from my TV and still get a better picture than the R-3 with the antenna plugged in, on the same channel. I expected MUCH better reception for the huge chunk of cash I paid. I think I paid over $600 for all of the gadgets and goodies.

      I also used to have a no gap (cell) wide band scanning receiver. Same deal. If it doesn't work, what's the point?

      How much do you have to pay to get a decent radio? The Icom R-8500 is about $1500 without any toys. I'd probably buy one if I knew there was something cool to listen to here. I don't really think there is though. :(

  3. Too bad ... by ProfMoriarty · · Score: 4, Informative
    Just a couple of days late for a $100(US) "rebate" ... R-3 link

    Still ... $450 for a ultra-wide band WITH a 2" TFT ...

    Only better (at 10x the price) would be the AR-one here, almost forgot ... have to be a non-US location to ship to ...

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    1. Re:Too bad ... by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Only better (at 10x the price) would be the AR-one here, almost forgot ... have to be a non-US location to ship to ...

      Its nice to have relatives in Canada :).

      Its sad though. I think we are one of the few industrialized nations on earth who have rescrictions on what frequencies can be listened to and when.

      Many states for instance have anti-scanner laws that prohibit you from having a R3 or another scanner in your car.

      And you know the cops don't want you listening in when they switch to encrypted digital repeaters.

  4. Re:How much and where can I buy one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    C.Crane, $449.95

    http://www.ccrane.com/icom_icr3.asp

  5. Probably cheaper to buy separately by bobo333 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well . It's good to see Americans are making Tv's again.

  6. Use of scanner by bdigit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know someone who has one, had it for a couple of years now and built a helicopter that had a network cam attached to it so he could fly it around and checkout the video feed from it. Very cool hack. If you want to get one with cellular unblocked check out this site.. http://www.radioworld.ca/swscan/swsc.php All though not many people are still using analog cellphones.

  7. Cost for the non-american version. by BrookHarty · · Score: 3, Informative

    Frequency Range:
    USA version: 0.495-815.995 MHz, 902-2450.095 MHz
    Non-USA version: 0.495-2450.095 MHz

    Ok, so where can I buy a Non-USA version? And price.

    1. Re:Cost for the non-american version. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
      At the risk of being a Karma-Whore ...

      Here you can buy it ...

  8. Re:Pfft by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny

    It said amateur television didn't it? Whats the late night showing of Reform School Girls if not amateur television?

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  9. Been out for a couple of years now... by no_such_user · · Score: 4, Informative

    Take a look here for some specs. Unfortunately, this receiver has been out for a few years now, and has never had reviews that are all that stunning. Complaints are generally regarding poor sensitivity, which as a owner of a IC-Q7A (Icom's ham version of the IC-R2), doesn't surprise me one bit.

    What always surprised me was the crummy UI on this thing. You've got a full color dot matrix display on the thing -- why isn't there a sophisticated OS, slick icons, and on-screen help guide? Why isn't there a flashable ROM for OS upgrades? How about a smartmedia slot to store screenshots? It's almost as if they're afraid to sell too many of the things, so they cripple it my making it cryptic to use, with a lousy UI, and no features.

  10. unblocked for cellular == waste of time by puzzled · · Score: 4, Funny

    I used to own an early model Icom PCR1000 - nice receiver, could hear cell bands, but WHO THE HELL CARES? You get to hear the cell site side of a two way conversation and its usually some yokel who can't afford a digital phone trying to rig a meeting with his girlfriend while his wife is at the grocery store.

    Don't violate the FCC's rules to listen to crap like that - just use the thing to tune in to Jerry Springer and you'll see the results of what happens when people make calls on analog cellular.

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  11. The Road To Happiness by jkeegan · · Score: 5, Funny

    ICON IC-R3 $449.95
    Extra Battery & car adaptor $119.95
    Series1 Standalone TiVo(eBay) $182.50
    Car->110volt-adapter $ 35.99
    Hacking TiVo Book $ 20.99
    AirNET adapter $ 69.25

    Watching extracted TiVo video synced from your
    house to your car: Pricele..... **CRASH**

    New Fender $210.00
    Insurance Deductable $300.00
    Emergency Room Co-pay $ 50.00

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    seven syllables explain TiVo: kee gan dot org slash ti vo
  12. old & short battery life by Nullsmack · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm going to agree with others, this isn't new.. I've been drooling over this radio for something like 2 years now.

    One downside that I've found in my reading is that when you're using the bigger lcd (for tv and better scanner control) it drains your batteries much faster. You can control the scanner with the smaller lcd, but I think more complex options need the color lcd to set. If you're running it at home on an AC adapter, then you're okay, but mobile is kinda limited with the effect video reception/display has on battery life.

    Then again, if you're the kind of person that drives around with their laptop searching for wifi networks, you might be used to that kind of battery life already.

  13. Re:wow a TV with a tuner! by Kenja · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bastards, respecting peoples privacy. Whats the world comming to?

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  14. Re:wow a TV with a tuner! by Detritus · · Score: 5, Informative
    I have an old VHF/UHF receiver that was built before they outlawed sales of cellular capable scanners.

    The problem is that it used to be legal to build and sell a general coverage receiver that covered DC to Daylight. There were laws that restricted what you could do with some of signals you received, such as prohibiting disclosure to third parties, but the general principle was that any American was free to listen to anything transmitted on the public airwaves.

    Enter cellular telephony (AMPS), which replaced the old mobile telephone service. Eventually, some bright bulb rediscovered that cellular telephone conversations were transmitted via UHF FM radio signals, without any encryption or signal security. Anyone with a UHF FM receiver, or an older VHF/UHF television set, could listen in on cellular phone calls. When the word got around to the general public that cellular calls were not private, the CTIA (cellular trade association) went nuts. This was a public relations problem that could hurt their sales and profits. Rather than fix the problem of broadcasting cellular calls in the clear, their "solution" was to lobby congress for a law that would prohibit sales of receivers that could listen to cellular telephone frequencies, and would criminalize the act of listening to a cellular telephone call. This was the first time that congress had made it illegal to listen to a radio signal. Of course, none of this made a damn bit of difference as to the security of a cellular telephone call. It just provided the illusion of security, which was all the CTIA was willing to pay for. It also gave a big stick to politicians who were embarrassed by the public disclosure of the contents of their cellular telephone calls. They could demand that the government prosecute the "criminals" who had the gall to embarrass them by publicizing their dirty laundry.

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  15. and that's not all by The+Tyro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's also illegal to listen in on cordless phones.

    I'm a long-time HAM, and I also have one of the old scanners that gets cellular (old Radio Shack model), and many can be modified to receive cellular signals (though this is illegal... do a google for scanner mods and you'll see how easy it is).

    The Cordless phone prohibition came later... I can't recall the year, but a hue-and-cry came about from people scanning the old 49.x mHz cordless phones. Naturally, the newer 900 mhz and 2.4ghz models with spread-spectrum require a bit more technical expertise than the old turn-on-the-scanner-and-listen routine. Even the Donald-Duck-sounding "scrambled" ones used a simple frequency inversion routine that you could easily decode (probably a DMCA violation these days).

    The trunking radio systems put a brief dent in the scanning scene, but you can even get scanners to track those now.

    Years ago, a buddy of mine lived in an apartment, and had an enormous dipole tacked up in the attic of his building, tuned specifically to the 49.x band... got every cordless phone for blocks. It was a rough neighborhood, so he sometimes got to hear the drug dealers doing business, and the ex-cons talking to their parole officers. I suppose that's the lazy man's way to get to know who your neighbors are BEFORE you invite them over for a neighborhood BBQ. However, before you run out and set up a similar rig, I can tell you that most people's conversations are relentlessly boring. Nosy, boring, and illegal... hardly worth it.

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  16. Re:picking up 2.4G wireless video from afar by josecanuc · · Score: 3, Informative

    While it may help a little bit to put on an antenna tuned more closely to 2.4 GHz, the effect would be marginal. The problem isn't necessarily that the antenna isn't getting the signal good enough, it's that the receiver circuitry is less sensitive in the 2.4 GHz range.

    It's very difficult to create a tuning circuit (which all receivers have) that is very sensitive across a wide range of frequencies. I would guess that this receiver is most sensitive in the VHF/UHF or even 800 MHz bands. From the specs, it looks like the upper end of the range for the R-3 is 2540 MHz (2.54 GHz), which isn't necessarily the clear-cut end of receiving capability for the product, it's just where the engineers (or marketers) decided to print the cutoff because the sensitivity drops off quickly somewhere around there.

    The solution might be a 'transverter' device which essentially acts as another IF stage in the receiver, mixing all input signals with a fixed frequency. The result is several sidebands, at least one of which is offset from the input signal by the value of the fixed frequency.

    Example: You want to see a video transmission on 2.450 GHz, but the receiver is not sensitive there. You build a little circuit that uses a diode to mix the incoming frequency with a 1000 MHz signal generated by a crystal (good luck finding a 1GHz crystal ;-) ). Then you can tune your receiver to either 1.450 GHz (2.45 GHz - 1.00 GHz) and find a slightly weaker copy of the 2.45 GHz signal there. If the increased sensitivity of your receiver in the 1.45 GHz area is larger than the decrease in the signal strength by mixing (which is probably some calculable amount, but I don't want to take the time to figure it out...), then you will end up with a clearer picture of the 2.45 GHz video signal.

    This technique is sometimes used by folks who really want to break US law and listen to cell-phone conversations. Nevermind that nowadays analog calls are nearly extinct. By law all receivers sold in the US must block tuning in of the cell-phone frequencies, which are around 850-900 MHz. (That's different these days with digital, but we're talking about analog.). Since nearly all receivers of FM audo use an IF (Intermediate Frequency, like the 1000 MHz signal we used above) of 10.7 MHz, users found they could tune to some multiple of 10.7 MHz below or above the cell phone frequencies and hear the 'images' of the calls. Nowadays scanner manufacturers extend those blocked frequencies to the image frequencies as well, so most folks are out-of-luck unless they build their own receiver for 850 MHz.

  17. No FM video demod by pestie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Another complaint I've heard about the IC-R3 is that it doesn't demodulate FM video across its entire receive range (or maybe not at all). A lot of "interesting" video is FM modulated, not AM (like broadcast TV, amateur TV, etc.) That alone would keep me from buying it, but throw in the poor sensitivity and I just don't see the point. Besides, I'm lucky enough to have an AOR AR-5000+3, so I can just add one of these and a cheap video monitor or video capture card to it and get the same functionality, albeit with less portability.