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snopes.com's David Mikkelson Interviewed
pipingguy writes "Online Journalism Review interviews David Mikkelson of the Urban Legends Reference Pages. While the Internet has taken its share of knocks for helping scammers perpetrate e-mail and Web hoaxes (the Bambi hunt reportedly was staged to sell videos on the proprietor's Web site), not enough credit is given to the folks who are using the Internet to debunk them. Snopes.com is the work of the husband-and-wife team of David and Barbara Mikkelson, who have taken their passion for urban myths to the Web since 1995."
There's a matter of trust I'm wary about, when it comes to sites like snopes.com. How easy would it be for them to be 'infiltrated' somehow by a hack attempt or by bribery and the like, and pass off something that is a hoax or scam as being 'real'. or perhaps pass off something that's a real and present danger as being just another net hoax?.
I know about half the mindless net followers will believe everything they read in email. Most of those who follow up to check if something is valid or not turn to snopes. That's a big responsibility.
I remember reading that Snopes: The TV Show was in development but I never heard anything about it again. I was looking forward to that.
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holy animated gifs and midi soundtracks.. snopes.com looks like my mom's first website
bite my glorious golden ass.
It's still useful. They've been debunking articles hours after they've started, especially handy in the recent "Metallica sues Canuck band for the use of E and F chords".
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DEFINATELY an URBAN LEGEND.
Really.
You are not the customer.
lol, nice troll.
:> ) then you probably won't enjoy it.
the link is to an animated gif of two guys having sex. so unless you're gay (like me
from the interview:
MG: "What about the role of the Internet in hoaxes?"
DM: "I think in general, nothing's changed but the technology. There's a lot on the Internet that you can't trust. But frankly, there's a lot on your bookshelf and the library shelves that you can't trust either. There are books on UFOs and alien encounters that require some examination. There's never been a medium that you could inherently trust. You still have to look at who's telling you this and why are they telling you this. Is there anything else they should be telling you? That concept hasn't changed. The Internet has made it easier to debunk hoaxes while at the same time making it easier to perpetrate them. Nothing's really changed but the technology."
The only other thing he could have mentioned is that people trust TV news and newspapers way too much also. 'nuff said.
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Or so they would have us believe... what if Snopes is a secret CIA plot to spread deliberate disinformation (the same CIA which is run by Masonic Lizards who would love nothing better than to enslare the world's population using advanced psychic mind-control tactics)
Sorry, but my karma just ran over your dogma.
Or the false nostradamus prediction, debunked on snopes.com:
:)
In the City of God there will be a great thunder,
Two brothers torn apart by Chaos,
while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb,
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning.
*NOSTRADAMUS 1654
Written by a student to show how vague prophecies can be misinterpreted easily. Popped up after Sept11... now applies only a couple of years later to Uday and Qusay Hussein.
Just thought that curious
A good article at CommonDreams.org about how the fact that it turned out to be a hoax seemed to make it 'acceptable' according to mainstream news sources.
Right-wing misogynists need not apply....
Its not a real interview its a hoax.
What happened to those babies is far too good for scum like you. I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL!!!
Hehe, good call.
The only bad thing about that site is that Barbara uses it as a political tool every time that elections are near. If I have to read one more article on snopes about how hillary clinton has never lied, I am going to vomit.
The problem is that according to my wife, a podiatric (foot) surgeon, the recovery period following a phalangectomy (ampution of a toe (or finger)) is almost nil. The big toe, let alone a vestigial "pinky toe", is not crucial for balance or stability. You can verify this yourself; lift up your big toe and walk around. Bet you can still do it, can't you? Sure you can, especially if you're wearing a shoe with a sole that is even moderately stiff, which would replace some of the big toe's stabilizing influence.
I reported this via the Snopes.com comment form. After a couple of days, I received a reply that basically said "everyone knows you can't walk right if you have a toe cut off", and my wife's qualified medical opinion was pretty much ignored. Now, I really don't think that Marilyn Monroe had six toes. However, I stand by my assertion that at least one of the reasons they give opposing such an idea just doesn't work.
Why do I think that's important? Because I don't know anything at all about a lot of the subjects that they speak authoritatively about. Since I know of at least one topic where they discarded the opinion of a subject matter expert, I have no reason to believe that they haven't done so elsewhere.
An old saying, paraphrased, is that "the news is accurate, except for the parts you personally know about", and I now kind of feel the same way about Snopes.com. I agree with a lot of their findings, but I have to take it all with a grain of salt.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
Right Now I am looking at my email. 75% of whats come in today is spam. Mozilla mail has caught 95% of that, classified it and moved it into my junk folder.
My Point is if you know people that believe half of what they read in their email do them a favor. Unplug their computers and reacquaint them with reality Its the kind thing to do before they start taking HGH, Viagra and herbal estrogen mixtures.
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"Derp de derp."
I disagree, he's claiming that a (fictional!!!) movie about hunting women is equivocal to spouse abuse, or actually hunting women. First, there's a serious disconnect here, between fantasy and reality. A person who fantasizes about things that may not be politically correct, or even socially acceptable doesn't harm anyone so long as he doesn't force his fantasy upon anyone else.
Second, there's he's trying to claim fiction is the same as reality. His argument would have us banning movies like American History X, because there was racial violence in it, banning books like Jennifer Government because poor people are discriminated against, banning works of social commentary fiction because they happen to violate someone's sense of decency.
The actors(!!) in the movie were (presumably) not forced to run around naked while male actors simulated shooting them with paintball guns. They were paid for the service.
This, isn't to say that I condone the video, nor the use of violence against anyone (simulated or otherwise), I think that arguing against it only works when it exists though, and that you can't equate stylised violence with actual violence, none of the actresses were battered by the actors, nor were they actually shot with the paintball guns.
Black and grey are both shades of white.
Can be another way of phrasing "two brothers ripped to shreds by chaos".
I'm not clear on how they died, so I don't know if they were literally 'torn apart' or not.
Umm, no. The one on top is a she-male, with a bikini tan line. Why would anybody who uses a strap-on use a semi-flacid one?
What is THE strangest story that you thought couldn't POSSIBLY be true, but upon further research, was?
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BTW excellent site, been reading it for years
"Online Journalism Review", links to that periodical's site, which is logical enough -- but why would "David Mikkelson" link to anything but a page about Mr. Mikkelson? "Interview" should be the link to the interview.
Am I a crank? Or do I make sense? (Or both?)
I agree with you, as well. But, I would point out that his argument is useful in that it generates an opposing discourse. While I agree with your argument, and think that the video provides a valuable services to persons who get off on this sort of thing, it also could be extremely psychologically damaging to another set of persons. Both of these views need to be recognized. His view of sexuality and representations of sexuality are a bit conservative, but this no doubt comes from his work with battered women. So, no, clearly the video should not be banned, but I think his viewpoint is a valuable one.
I would hate to interrupt this self-congratulatory pat on the back, but "Hunting for Bambi" wasn't much of a hoax. A publicity stunt, yes. An hoax, not really. Assuming you have the money and assuming you have the desire, shooting paintballs at naked girls isn't something an *unlicensed* escort service would shy away from. Afterall, fullfilling sexual and/or sadistic fantasies is their business.
If we call "Hunting for Bambi" a hoax, we might as well call the Nike publicity stunts hoaxes as well. For example, the incident where they blocked traffic by setting up an impromptu tennis court. The news may be shocking to you, but that was staged -- even the outburst of the bus driver was carefully choreographed.
I found two major problems with this:
The funny part, to me, is that I pretty much agree with the conclusion he reached. The offered evidence, however, had little bearing on the theory being proved.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
Look at his lecture Series, If he comes to your city it is well worth attending the lecture.
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There is an interesting follow-up thread in the Smoke Tech Center's message boards. Check it out.
Granted, but those who would be psychologically scarred by watching the video aren't the target audience, and would be turned off from the video just by the cover--not to mention website, title, et cetera.
I don't think his viewpoint is as valuable as you do, if he were arguing against it rather than arguing against its being published, then perhaps I could see some value in it, but knee-jerk reactions like his (even PhDs can have knee-jerk reactions) don't help the argument. His viewpoint is more likely to create more people who are interested in it than people who want to avoid it. Just like the Holocaust-revisionists in the 1970s.
Black and grey are both shades of white.
What about leftist egalitarians?
My interpretation is that this man was simply hoping to get reactions from people like this man. I've heard rumor that it's actually an unliscened escort service, but I'd like to see more evidence of that before I decide either way.
I figure he was trying to get people to be enraged, a la a shock jock. He seems to have succeeded.
I'm a lawyer, but not yours. I wouldn't represent someone who thinks taking legal advice from Slashdot is a good idea.
If she won't cut it off, I'll be happy to drop a 25 pound weight on it - that's how I broke mine.
I mod down all the "free iPod"-sig losers.
Seems to be where new legends are discussed before they create a page for them.
Some of the other material is interesting as well.
I've been playing on the Foresight Exchange for a couple months now, and while it's no crystal ball it's an interesting way of making public polls that are weighted both towards how successful a prognosticator a respondant is and how strongly he feels about a particular issue. I'd expect that adding money to the mix in the case of terrorism forecasts would both make the game "more serious" and allow it to act as a sort of anti-terrorism insurance.
What I couldn't believe was that this was the mistake that forced Poindexter to resign! The man waded through Iran-Contra, tried to create Big Brother, but now he's finally getting pensioned off because he wanted to start an idea futures market? That's just weird.
Mod this guy down. Read the "article" posted here carefully enough and it will become obvious what his true intention was in posting.
I found snopes.com very helpful in determining the validity of the 809 area code scam. See, that site isn't worthless after all!
I like snopes. If they haven't debunked a story, then it certainly must be true!
And, the bottom one (the 'top') is wearing a condom -- either to protect from stds, or to keep the shit of his dick.
What's priceless was that Fox News ran a sensational story on their channel, asking women rights groups and showing video footage of these hunts. Boy, they sure got egg on their faces when this emerged to be phony. I remember it being shown as an outfit conducting hunts for men who pay "thousands of dollars" to participate.
I found a site on the "hole in the wall" computers. Enjoy the site while it lasts, it doesn't look too promising.
Snopes rocks. I was particularly impressed by the explanation of the "police radar causes missile to be launched at it" urban legend. Where I've seen mainstream media utterly fail at describing the details modern weaponry (vagueness, flat-out inaccuracies or both), snopes.com provided a refreshingly detailed explanation that I found no errors in. It's nice that the author chosen for it was very informed in the subject.
I think the AC more or less nails it. The snopes people have very limited expertise and limited funding, and as it seems from the above email limited patience.
>That said, they are doing a good job at a herculean task.
This is spot-on. Any site that deals with countering disinformation on a wide scale has to contend with its own bias, laziness, and limitations. Look at the skeptdic or straightdope.com, they often revise after someone presents them with more information and some of the conclusions reached can be best described as "dunno."
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Internet Explorer 6.0 shows just the background color of each page. No text. Mozilla displays the site correctly. Weird.
I visit it every few days to see what's new.
Though I was startled to find that there's a transsexual model out there who appeared in a James Bond film and is married to someone who has the same name as I do. I hope that if I ever become famous nobody will look back on that article and draw the wrong conclusions.
When I first started getting serous about Internet stuff, I signed up for the urban legends list server, but found that it was almost entirely folks commenting about what other folks had said. Dropped out. Did I miss something?
Many of snopes.com conclusions are unsubstantiated and highly dubious.
One hilarious example:
In one claim they referred to a Slate.com article as the proof, while that Slate.com article referred to Snopes.com as the proof (!?).
They did remove that reference after I (repeatedly) pointed out the sillines of such "proof", but they still maintain that same conclusion -- now without any proof.
Sounds like an opportunity for yet another site (dopesofsnopes.com ?).
What with all the publicity, it's a great business opportunity. It wouldn't be that hard to put together. I know some SF bondage models who'd go for it.
This is funny; not insightful, informative, or troll. Dumbass moderators, should be automatic one-year banishment from slashmod.
Remain calm! All is well!
Snopes and the Skeptics seem to take a position, in most cases, that there are no conspiracies. They do have a little 9/11 info on snopes.com, though, that is counter to the government's claims.
Fight the power. Question everything.
That is not one of Nostradamus' predictions. Some student wrote it in an attempt to show how easy vague predictions are to make. Also, as another poster noted, the alleged prediciton is credited to have happened after Nostradamus died.
I don't know how many times I have referred my friends to snopes.com after hearing them recite to me an urban legend. Their response to me is "you believe this crap? You can't believe everything you read on the internet!"
I stumbled upon snopes.com for the first time while trying to determint whether the Peter Lynds story above was a hoax. I was searching for info about his publicist Brooke Jones, an Independent Communications Consultant. The google search leads to numerous links about urban legends. One site in particular http://www.truthminers.com/truth/jones.htm has a further link to snopes. Cool, eh? 6 degrees of internet separation.
Exactly what I was taking into consideration when I wrote this article for my employer. I read up on the subject, watched the KLAS-TV broadcasts and concluded that this was probably some promotion deal for their video deal.
However, I also understood that if someone would cough up USD 10 000, they would do it. That's why I wrote the article.
The Snopes entry about Gore taking credit for creating the Internet gets it wrong.
The guy gets hung up on a false semantic difference between "create" and "invent", and ignores the fact that the Internet existed for several years before Gore got involved with it.
"Christians and Muslims both believe in the same God, just disagree in the nature of Jesus Christ. Chrisitians believe he was the Messiah. Muslims believe he was just another prophet. The two, combined with Judaism, are referred to Abrahamic, because they all worship the God of Abraham."
The Gods are different, the religions are different. They are logically contradictory. The Muslim god has a prophet Mohammed, the Christian god does not. The Christian god is in a trinity with his only Son Jesus. The Muslim god, of course, is not.
They cannot be the same, as they contradict each other.
Snopes.com is the work of the husband-and-wife team of David and Barbara Mikkelson, who have taken their passion for urban myths to the Web since 1995."
As A Folklorist, I really cringe when people use the term "Urban Myth." In a folkloristic sense (and this would require a folkloristic sense, I suppose, as Snopes.com is a sight about folklore, used by folklorists quite a bit) a myth is a narrative told about pre-historical times that pretains to the way in which the world as we know it was formed. So for something to be an "Urban Myth," it would have to be a contemporary narrative that describes the way that the world as we know it was formed. Perhaps the big bang qualifies? I really hate the term "Urban Legend" too (I use the term "Contemporary Legend" instead), as most of what falls into this category is not exclusively urban at all, but it, at least, is an acceptable term. Please, please, please, can't we be as precise with humanities and social sciences terminology as we are with technological terminology here?
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Before I was introduced to Snopes by my humanities teacher 2 years ago, I had found a "Straight Dope" book that had some questions like those addressed by Snopes: urban legends & "my friend said" kind-of-stuff. Cecil Adams (no relation) and his crew publish their stuff online @ http://www.straightdope.com By the way, I've also been known to my friends to send them to Snopes on a regular basis for the "crap" they love to fill my email box with. There's a lot of disinformation floating around out there.
Life is irony, and nothing ever goes as planned.
"By that logic (always a tricky thing to apply logic to religion, since it's inherently based on faith, not logic) the Christian God and the Jewish God are different too, "
Absolutely. Sorry, I did not bring that up before. The Jewish god has not seen fit to send the Messiah yet.
"And yet Christians have no problem claiming the Jewish God, along with His long collection of prophets found in the Old Testament, as their own."
Just as the Muslims claim that the God of the Christians and Jews before Mohammed was their God as well. This does not make it true, however, due to the contradictions.
"The fact that so many Christians refuse to acknowledge that the God of Islam and the God of Christianity are the same entity "
They refuse if they realize that the deities contradict each other.
"And most Jews acknowledge that the Christians worship the same God they do,"
A mistaken belief, borne out if ignorance. The God of the Jews is clearly not the truine being that includes Jesus (God of the Christians)
"The Christian religion and the Bible are chocked full of contradictions"
Only to those who have the most superficial (or nonexistent) knowledge of the matters.
This is not a troll. Snopes got it wrong.
Snopes claim that it is a myth that Gore created the internet.
They explain it by saying that he did not invent it, he created it and that is a big difference.
In fact, there is not a big difference between create and invent in this context, and Gore did not create it. Snopes is nothing but wrong.
Snopes then goes down the wrong path by using Gore helping the Internet long after it was created as evidence that Gore created the thing in the first place.
(i.e. Howard Hughes created the airplane and Henry Ford created the automobile and Bill Gates created the GUI).
Mod that parent informative, not troll.
I just wonder why Snopes gets this one so wrong. Political bias? Just plain sloppiness?
No. You said that. She said that the recovery time is short, and that you can walk perfectly well, post healing, after having a toe amputated.
Hell, people limp after having a toenail removed.
Dammit, would people please read what I wrote? Favoring something because it is painful is not the same as being used to its absence. To go back to my dental analogy, you can eat perfectly well, post healing, after having a tooth pulled. You cannot eat perfectly well while having a toothache. In one case, you're adjusting to a part of your anatomy being removed. In the other case, you're avoiding a part of your anatomy that is in pain.
Toes are nice to have. I like mine. My wife likes hers. But losing one will not prevent you from walking normally.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
I also found erroneous information in one of the articles about the "Children's tattoos laced with Acid/LSD" myth. There was a mention of the deadly nature of GHB which propelled the myth that GHB is odorless, tasteless, and deadly.
Being a responsible user of illicit drugs, I reported that GHB is by no means tasteless (unless you think seawater is tasteless) and is only deadly when mixed with alchohol. So the claim that an innocent bystander could have their glass of water or soda spiked with a deadly dosage of GHB without them ever knowing is ludicrous.
I received the same dismissive respnse from Mr. Mikkelson.
"Being a responsible user of illicit drugs"
There is nothing responsible about injesting toxins that cause brain damage (even if the brain damage is temporary).
Responsible drug abuse is an oxymoron.
"By that logic (always a tricky thing to apply logic to religion, since it's inherently based on faith, not logic"
It is still logic. Theology is a rigorous and logical field. Just because you might not agree with it does not mean it is not logic.
"This is the misunderstanding. Athiests don't make the claim because to make a claim requires something with which to prove the claim. Athiests, at least those like me..."
Many, if not most, of the Atheist faith that I encounter do in fact make such claims as "There is no form of divinity whatsoever."
"....simply say that because of the total lack of evidence for the existance of a god, there's no reason to believe in one"
That is your faith decision.
"And your second paragraph is positively Clintonian. This is not a good sign"
In other words, he has left white stain on the blue dress of logic.
""Giant" creatures can't exist due to the square-cube law"
Yes, they can. The square-cube law does not preclude them in the least. The only thing the square-cube law does is outline certain realities that the design of such creatures have to deal with (and overcome).
You forget that square-cube problems are much less in space to begin with. A giant hamster (1 foot long is giant for a hamster!) would have little problem getting by.
"Space has no atmosphere, therefore no oxygen. Animals like hamsters need oxygen to live."
Yet, men (and women and chimps and dogs) have gone into space, and survived. Amazing! (Psst. ever hear of space suits? oxygen tanks? If you have not, since you are watching cartoons all day, look at Sandy the Squirrel, the air-breathing rodent who lives under the sea with Sponge-bob)
"Invisibility is impossible."
It is not only possible, it is prevalent and quite common. Do you see the air between yourself and the monitor?
"So, when science ways in on the "Giant Invisible Space Hamster", it pretty conclusivly shows that the 'GISH' can't exist."
None of your arguments were valid.
"Add to it the scientific evidence, and there you go- GISH's don't exist."
While they are pretty silly, you are going out on a limb to say that there are absolutely none.
"Puh-leaze. I don't "believe in" Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy"
"Please" has only one syllabil. Also, the person asked about God. By asking about these others, you care changing the subject.
"...is by far the weakest argument the deluded make against athiests."
Of course anyone who does not share your faith is "Deluded". Zealots of all faiths love to say this about non-believers. It is something you and ayatollah's have in common.
Indeed! You can look at my website, The Uncoveror, then look at Snopes. My stories are not debunked, they are therefore true.
The Uncoveror: It's the real news.
" but Nostradamus quatrains are B.S. whether they are authentically his or not. "
....still waiting for the name of just one of them who predicted 9/11.
The guy was just lucky since he almost named Hitler.
There is such thing as a psychic, but it is just another disreputable occupation like lawyer, politician, or Mannatech salesman.
"Are we talking about the same man?"
It is probably two different Joe's. Expecially since one is triplets, and the other is not. The one who is not triplets has a PR guy named Moe. The triplet guy does not. There's a third Joe, who is neither triplets nor has a PR guy.
"but that doesn't mean that since our stories don't match, we aren't discussing the same man.
"
Oh yes it does, as (thinking of those God's) they are very different.
"and the compounds that make up living things are not transparent or even translucent."
Look again at your monitor. Not only can you see through the invisible air (better revise the "invisibility is impossible" claim), you can see through your corneas too (and those are living).
If you turn away from the monitor, and go back to the cartoons, SpongeBob comes again to the rescue. Consider the jellyfish when you claim "compounds that make up living things are not transparent or even translucent. "
"Infrared and ultraviolet are considered colours."
No, they are not colors (the better spelling has no U, as the U is never pronounced. The O is not pronounced either: one unused letter is not perfect, but when you have more than one things start to get downright French). The only reason they have "red" and "violet" in their names is because in the electromagnetic spectrum, they are near those colors, even though they are not colors. They are not present in any color wheel or color system.
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These two types of radiation are not colors any more than AM radio or microwaves are.
"You claim to choose a 'better' spelling as an excuse for your butchering of the English language?"
It is not butchering. It is much more akin to cutting off a tumor.
CLITORIS CHOPPERS. Hi there you fucking Islamic career clerics, doctors of death, Waffen Schutzstaffel doctor Josef Mengele is a patron saint compared to you fucking ragheads. You suck. You aide and abet terror and death. You are partially responsible for the deaths of other fellow men. For this fratricide you shall pay dearly. Your soul is black with the stains of inaction, ineptitude and sympathies to those who walk the dark side. Your foul life is full of sins, not religious, just heinous, your karma is low, you don't confess, and you aren't in prison where you belong. You are your own dark, kept secret. I see through you, the worthless academic, the pseudo intellectual, the unproven unpublished un patented WASTE OF FUCKING FLESH. You are a drain on society, you are a member of the 1st world but pretend to not be. I hate you, you are a stained man.
Hi clitoris chopper, ISLAM supports clitoris carving. You are Islamic, and of course are a fucking animal. I hate you you pull-start camel jockey lover. Towelheads, Camel Jockies, Sand Niggers, Ackmids, Abeebs, Carpet Flyers, Dune Coons, Rag Heads, Sand Scratchers, Habeebs, Abba-Dabbas, Camel-Humpers, Demi-niggers, Fig-Gobblers, Hucka-luckas (hucka hlacka ghalcka ghugh), Lefties (If you steal, you lose the right hand so, since they are thieves...) Ocnods, Pull-Start-ables (imagine pull starting Ossama's dirty rag like a Briggs and Stratton), Roach-Ranchers (habibs cant kill roaches by a tenant of Is-slum), Sand Moolies.
Shut up all you dirty fucking Islamic pigfucking swinehundts and the pigs, the communist fuckin Islamic terrorist supporter.
Take your fucking Koran and cram it up your ass. The sooner the earth sees Islam leave it, the better off it will be. Your Koran is Goat Piss.
I hope if there is a God and a Hell, you have to drink the liquidy shit from a Pig's ass, and Jewish Rabbis defecate on you.
I hate the stupid ISLAM fucks who read into the trash they come up with. Saddam Hussein [who needs to take a dirt nap] is higher on my sanity list than fucking Muslim "clerics." In fact, I like Saddam more than most of the other Arab leaders because he is secular. We should fucking nuke the Saudis and Mecca and Medina and turn it into rubble, then tell Saddam to remove the heads of all the buttfucking "royalty" in the area.
I want to wipe my ass with Mohammad's shroud. I want to grind his body up into bone meal and fertilize my garden with it.
Our tortured dead scream out in HORROR, asking for vengeance:
Nuke their countries to hell.
Nuke them again.
Death to Islam.
I piss on Mecca. I wipe my ass with the Koran. I shit upon Mohammed. I wipe the cum for a freshly fucked pussy with Mohammed's shroud then throw it in the pig sty so it can mire in pig shit as it decomposes.
Fox news made a mistake for taking an urban legend to be the truth. Honest mistake. Corrected.
There was no mistake when your brothers bombed Bali. Jakarta. Ripped out the WTC. Murdered Olypians. Executed Innocents. Your Religion. Your brother races. Your fucking farce.
Go ahead, and perpetuate your propaganda, you fucker. Ripping down the institution which you fucking leech off of. Go live in tent you fucking sand nigger? Oh? You dont like the fucked shit quality of life in shithole Muslim states?
You fucking bastard hypocrite leech. Your death will result in you joining your brother in hell, being skewered by Satan, youd "GOD", triton you FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!