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Scientists Clone Horse
The Night Watchman writes "Italian scientists have produced the world's first horse clone, according to Yahoo News. Racing is likely to become slightly more interesting in the coming years..."
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... A clony pony?
How ya like dat?
I don't think that cloning will make much difference to current methods of selective breeding; after all, selective breeding works just fine as it is, and I don't think that horses can really be "improved" any further without some large anomalistic genetic change in a large proportion of the species.
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Out of a total of 841 reconstructed embryos, only 22 developed to advanced embryos within about a week. Seventeen of those were introduced into nine mares, resulting in four pregnancies, but only one, Prometea, developed to full term.
Jeez... if you really want that genetically enhanced captain of the football team genius scientist Richard Gere looking son you better start soon!
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They did it to make a...
Battalion of Italian Stallions
har har har *hiccup*
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And no one can talk to a clone of a horse of course
That is, of course, unless the clone of the horse is a clone of the famous Mister Ed!
"She's the clone!"
"No, _she's_ the clone!"
According to the New Scientist, cloned mammals suffer from some genetic defects. This would open new possibilites for betting: how many races can the horse run - or which clone dies in this race.
I'm not sure if this is a good thing (TM)...
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Thoroughbred's don't even allow artificial insemination (AI) much less embryo transplant, they are strictly live-cover only.
In other breeds/diciplines it's fine. I'm not a breeding expert, but my wife and I own a stallion and we've shipped semen a few times to mare owners. A friend of ours runs a large operation this ships frozen and cooled equine semen. It's pretty interesting, actually. The technology is pretty advanced, and the recordkeeping / auditing requirements when dealing with million-dollar horses is staggering.
"The most obvious use is to give a sterile animal or animals that die or can't breed because of some disease a chance to reproduce," Galli said.
;-)
Thus doing away with that pesky natural selection. Not that that's a bad thing...
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Breeding allows us to enhance the "good" genes while getting rid of the "bad" ones. Cloning doesn't allow for improvement. So until they start messing with genetic modifications (which will probably lead to a lot of screwed-up horses), I doubt clones are going to be winning many races.
have they isolated the genes that will make me hung like one?
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But, it would be useful in the case of a gelding, for example, who turned out to be a good race horse after all. The genes are the same, so you could breed the clone.
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you could make a Beowulf cluster of horses!
You seem to be ignoring the fact that France helped us out at point as well. It was called the Revolutionary War, without which we wouldn't even be here. Please don't be selective when quoting history.
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I wonder how long this horse will live. Dolly didnt live very long because she had stunted telomeres and I am pretty sure that this horse's telomeres are stunted also.
You all have no idea how important this is!
Don't you see - now, after we have beaten any given dead horse (e.g. Microsoft is evil, X is slow, ??AA sucks) into a slurry, we can salvage its DNA, clone it, raise the clone to maturity, kill it, and continue to beat it some more!
This invention has singlehandedly saved the Internet!
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but being a nerd, all you would do with it is piss on your shoes.
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a horse is a horse of course of course
and no one can talk to a horse of course
That is of course, unless the horse
is a clone of a horse with human genes spliced in
Sadly, Wired magazine had a sharp drop in sales in the month of July when customers confused the cover featuring the cloned horse for Janet Reno.
"Derp de derp."
..and they've not done shit for anyone (except themselves) since.
Now whose being selective?
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A horse is a horse, of course, of course.
A Jedi horse, he uses the Force.
His favorite code to use is Morse.
He's the famous Mister Ed!
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You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
So this statement really irritates me:Unfortunately, this researcher is probably right on the money, literally. There is huge money in show horses, just like there is in purebred show dogs. The problem is how selective breeding -- in both cases -- has resulted in an animal that is useless for any real purpose.
Appaloosas get bred for particular patterns of spots, Quarter Horses get bred for very specific ratios of body parts, Arabians are bred to hold themselves "just so"... you get the picture. Thoroughbreds, bred for speed, may be the only horses that are commercially bred for something that is even remotely "natural" to a horse's instincts -- and even they are broken down and "retired" at an age when a working horse is just getting started.
What you see, way too often, is a horse that looks pretty, but is completely screwed up in the head. And that's with traditional breeding (and I'm including the straw o'semen in the "traditional" category). I can only imagine the neurotic, unpredictable horses that will come from cloning the "best" show horses. They'll be useless for any actual work, probably won't be able to reproduce without assistance (already a problem today), and will be a danger to their rider and anyone nearby.
Give me a field-bred "grade" horse over a "show" horse any day. It's like our dogs -- we have two mixed-breed puppies (half Jack Russell) that are sharp as a tack. The big black dog that got dumped as a puppy is the loyal protector of the household. And the $700 Schnauzer is the stupidest creature on the face of God's green earth. Show dog? No thanks, I'll take the mutt in the corner.
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Also, NPR had a cool story a couple of months ago about the actual process that they go through when trying to breed thoroughbreds. All I can say is that I really felt sorry for the 'teaser stallions'...
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Why would she have loved this, when it's a LIE
Here's something recent:
http://www.iht.com/articles/96431.html
Check it out.
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Nope, Dolly was put down when her viral infection got too bad. This type of infection is not unusual to find in sheep that live indoors, as Dolly did.
... I wonder how this horse's telomere will turn out.
True, dolly had short telomeres. But what's far more interesting is that cloned cattle don't have shortened telomeres
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Unfortunately you also highlight why it will continue. Not so we can see Pharlap II race, not for laudable if debatable medical purposes, but so that rich fools with nothing better to waste their money on can attempt (and fail) to "recreate" their dear old Schmookie/Fido/Kujo...
History does repeat, but not that literally. Hrm, an exact clone of my old pet that looks different, acts different and has a reduced life span...
I'm a mongrel, all my pets are mongrels, and my wife and kids are all mongrels too. I'm a great believer in hybrid vigour and diversity - they are our greatest strengths - and in the long run, they are our best shot at survival.
Let us not fall into this intellectual trap, and let sleeping dogs lie.
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The most obvious use is to give a sterile animal or animals that die or can't breed because of some disease a chance to reproduce
And WHY do we want to do that? Are there morals that tell us to give every animal a chance to reproduce, or do we just like seeing weak and ill-prone beings reproduce and take a sh*t in the genetic pool?
racing will likely become more interesting
How will it be more interesting when all the horses are identical?
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The mother horse gave birth to her own clone. That's somewhat like this plant I have that keeps making copies of itself. And even weirder: it's like giving birth to your own identical twin! Scary! I'm glad that I'm a man...
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Who was actually a zebra.
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An engineer, a mathematician, and a physicist went to the races one Saturday and laid their money down. Commiserating in the bar after the race, the engineer says, "I don't understand why I lost all my money. I measured all the horses and calculated their strength and mechanical advantage and figured out how fast they could run..."
The physicist interrupted him: "...but you didn't take individual variations into account. I did a statistical analysis of their previous performances and bet on the horses with the highest probability of winning..."
"...so if you're so hot why are you broke?" asked the engineer. But before the argument can grow, the mathematician takes out his pipe and they get a glimpse of his well-fattened wallet. Obviously here was a man who knows something about horses. They both demanded to know his secret.
"Well," he says, between puffs on the pipe, "first I assumed all the horses were identical and spherical..."
Darryl and the whole works, if they have cloned a horse there is no reason why they cannot clone a certain part of the horse.
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