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Music Software for Mac OS X?

tengwar writes "I'm an organist, and I sometimes have to prepare sheet music. I'd also like to do a bit of composition. I'm looking for music software for the Mac centered around standard notation. Playback would be nice, but it's not as important as a user interface that doesn't get in the way of plonking down notes on a stave fast enough for me to remember what I was trying to do. If possible I'd like something that will allow me to add the words for voice parts for hymns. Any advice?"

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  1. Finale! by foooo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Finale by Coda Software.

    www.finalemusic.com

    I live and die by it. Albeit on a PC but I they offer a Mac version.

    ~foooo

    1. Re:Finale! by mkldev · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't believe the OS X version is shipping for another month....

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    2. Re:Finale! by TrippTDF · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not a music person, but I've got a lot of friends that are, and they all swear by Finale. The mac version, too. It seems pretty descent for what you are talking about, too. If I remember correctly, it runs pretty well on older systems (it's all MIDI, I think) so you don't need anything too great. In fact, my college's Finale stations were all Beige G3s, and no one complained.

    3. Re:Finale! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      I live and die by it. Albeit on a PC but I [think] they offer a Mac version.

      Correction: It's a Mac program which also offers a PC version.

      It stands proudly with Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and Microsoft Word as programs which came out on the Mac first!

      Now, the bad news: No OS X version yet. Also, it's bloated and archaic.

      Once upon a time, Finale was the sizznit of music notation software. Now, I can't even recommend it over some of the better apps out there.

    4. Re:Finale! by Zanthany · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Finale is great. Sibelius is great. Their price point, however, leaves much to be desired. Finale does have watered-down versions of their software. Allegro has most of the features of Finale, but is still pricey at ~$200. Finale also offers NotePad as a free download from their website, but as I have personally found out, it is very crippled, not intuitive, and generally uncustomizable.

      I would recommend over all these other apps Finale's PrintMusic. PrintMusic offers many of the features of Finale and Allegro, has professional quality output just like Finale, but at a much lower price of $70. Four-part chorale notation and lyrics are a snap, and easily accomodates three-stave-per-system organ notation. All the functionality for what you need, without leaving you with that freshly cornholed feeling after shelling out the dough for Finale or Sibelius.

  2. Will lilypond work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.lilypond.org

  3. Finale by Coda by str8edge · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check out Finale by Coda. I used the software for scoring music quite some time ago, and it was sufficient for my music theory classes. They have Mac OS versions available. The only downside - it is a commercial product.

  4. Finale by FattMattP · · Score: 4, Informative

    Finale is pretty much the standard on the Mac for notation.

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  5. sibelius by zarqman · · Score: 4, Informative
    sibelius
    sibelius.com

    finale is the other choice, but sibelius is much easier to use and learn - and in my experience is just as powerful. available for mac and windows.

    i was a music composition major and ended up using sibelius for nearly everything i wrote - instrumental works, choral, whatever. it does have limited playback features too.

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    1. Re:sibelius by BigDaddy · · Score: 5, Informative
      I'll second the support of Sibelius. I've spent the last three days working heavily on an arrangement, and I must say it is much better than Finale. Some features of note:
      • Better input using the standard keyboard (not MIDI) than Finale. Finale's input is slow unless you have MIDI. Sibelius has a much more useful system to get around this handicap.
      • More intuitive responses to changes in the score. Finale is not nearly as intelligent.
      • MacOS X native. To the best of my knowledge, Finale is still an OS9 app. Points to Sibelius for making the switch.
      There are some bugs, but overall Sibelius is a much better piece of software. Sadly, the price will prevent me from owning my own copy, but as long as I continue to work with my collaborator, I will have access to his. Sweet deal...
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    2. Re:sibelius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I teach a graduate level notation course in which students use both Finale and Sibelius, and I own a music publishing company. Both Finale and Sibelius are good. Both need constant tweaking.

      If you're looking for something quick, choose Sibelius, as the learning curve is easier.

      If you're looking for publication-quality, or if you might go that direction in the future, then choose Finale. It has the ability to tweak more parameters, particulary in-depth manipulation of slurs, that make it the only viable program for the professional. Finale has a steeper learning curve, but if you learn it now, you won't have to learn it after Sibelius has let you down for engraver-quality work. OS X Native version is due to ship 10/20 -- and yes they're REALLY behind Sibelius in that.

      If you're never going to need engraving for publication, then Sibelius will be the better choice.

      As for the other programs, if you wander into twentieth-century notation, stick with the two big guns.

  6. Not to be so specific by mhesseltine · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've seen recommendations for Finale, which is available for Windows and Mac platforms. Is there any open-source software that also does the same thing, for the Linux/BSD crowd?

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    1. Re:Not to be so specific by GoRK · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes. Rosegarden does this. I have not used it very much at all in a long time, but it does work fine, and if they have improved it since I last used it, then it may be a very slick application indeed.

      ~GoRK

  7. Harmony Assistant by Moebius+Loop · · Score: 5, Informative

    You should definitely check out Harmony Assistant. It's made by Myriad Software (http://www.myriad-online.com/enindex.htm). It's a little rough around the edges, but it does everything.

    I switched to it from Sibelius/Finale when they took too long to come out with a mac os x version (and charged too much when they did). Harmony Assistant is only $65, and they provide a reasonably crippled demo.

    They also make a plugin (that comes as a free trial with the software) called Virtual Singer that uses Text-to-Speech to give you an approximation of how a vocal piece will sound (kinda scary, but good for hearing what you're doing before you put it in front of a chorus)...

    There's also support for a million different kinds of tablature, all the usual staves and so forth. Like I said, it's a little rough around the edges, but a $65 price tag (compared to $600 for sibelius or finale) makes it all worth it.

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  8. Melody/Harmony Assistant by dahjelle · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'd check out Myriad's Melody Assistant or it's more powerful and more expensive sibling Harmony Assistant. Melody is $15 shareware and quite powerful.

    I can't compare the speed of notation with other programs as I haven't used them much. Its been great for the work I've done, however.

  9. Lime by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Informative

    Lime has quite a following.

    So does Google.

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    1. Re:Lime by stephentyrone · · Score: 2, Informative

      Lime is (approximately speaking) god's gift to the composer. It lacks some of the nifty input features of Finale, and it has less sophisticated playback. But, when it comes to laying out scores, and even composing, there's nothing that I'd rather use. It's wonderfully customizable (many 20th century notation conventions are much easier than in finale, you can use finale's alternate fonts, you can make it do damn near anything you want), and *it's free*.

      Let me repeat that: ***it's free***

      Finale sells for what, over $200, maybe $300 these days? Short of nifty input and playback tricks that most people never use, I'm yet to find anything that Finale or Sibelius can do that Lime can't. And it's OS X native. And stable.

      Sorry if this is a bit over the top, but I really really love this program, and have wasted (in retrospect) many hours on finale. *maybe* if I was writing very large scale works I'd prefer finale, but I've written an entire musical in Lime without any problems.

  10. Re:Finale by gmaestro · · Score: 4, Informative
    Finale is not yet supported under OSX. It will be soon.

    Finale is a very nice package of software which I cannot live without, but it doesn;t sound like this guy needs that much, and I think I can save him $400. Allegro is just as good, made by the same folks, without some of the advanced functionality (unlimited staves, customized staves, etc.). It also is not supported under OSX, ya' gotta use classic mode.

  11. Hey by daeley · · Score: 4, Informative

    Funny you should ask, as this showed up in Fink Stable today:

    lilypond 1.6.10-2 (GNU Music Typesetter)

    LilyPond prints beautiful sheet music. It produces music notation from a description file. It excels at typesetting classical music, but you can also print pop-songs. LilyPond input is plain text. So, you can use your favorite text editor to enter it, you can put it in mail or embed it in an article like this: \key c \minor r8 c16 b c8 g as c16 b c8 d | g,4 Or you can use it to print music from other programs, using one of the numerous input filters. LilyPond output looks beautiful. The font and the layout algorithms were inspired by engraved music, so you can expect that same clear and elegant look from your LilyPond output. And if anything is not to your liking, you can tweak almost everything. [Fink Packages (Stable)]

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    1. Re:Hey by gperciva · · Score: 2, Informative

      Lilypond version 1.8.0 came out very recently; 1.6.10 is a year old or more. We use the kernel numbering scheme (1.7.x were development versions; 1.6 and 1.8 are stable versions).

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  12. Intuem by torpor · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is OSX Native, and works very well:

    http://www.intuem.com/

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    1. Re:Intuem by Dominic_Mazzoni · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is OSX Native, and works very well:

      http://www.intuem.com/


      Intuem is great for sequencing, but the original question was about sheet music software. Intuem does have a "staff" display, but this is not powerful enough for someone who wants to print out sheet music suitable for publication, or even suitable for distributing to someone else to sightread.

  13. All listed products in thread (as of my post) by BoomerSooner · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sibelius

    Harmony Assistant

    Lime Music Notation

    This is for the lazy, if you want to read on by all means do so (I may have missed a few). This was a great question because I was looking for the same answer!!! Thanks Ask Slashdot!

  14. Two great sites to check out. by xanderwilson · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check out

    http://www.osxaudio.com and
    http://www.macmusic.org

    two sites/communities for everything you could possibly want to know about Mac OS X audio software.

    Alex.

    1. Re:Two great sites to check out. by boobert · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also check out http://www.musiconmac.com not a high traffic site but it is very nice and seems like it will grow into something better. Also it has a bunch of good links.

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  15. Ummm logic by boobert · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Logic Audio. I don't know if they have a demo though. Apple owns them now. You might want to check out soundtrack it is supposed to be based on logic and might do the scoring also. It can be difficult to learn logic initially but it is a very powerful program. Make sure you get Logic Audio not Gold or platinum. For now Audio will do what you want and it doesn't cost $600. I think straight audio should be less than $200.

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    1. Re:Ummm logic by Steve+Cowan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your perspective on Logic is a little extreme - I use it every day and find it an extremely powerful program. You are correct though that while Logic includes a very powerful notation function, it has a severe learning curve and a really really crappy manual.

      To put "really crappy manual" in perspective, Logic is at version 6, and my manual is a poorly organized version 4 manual with a version 5 addendum and a version 6 addendum. Yes I upgraded from version 4, but even people who buy the new version get this truckload of books.

      For this reason alone, I cannot recommend Logic since the author seems to be asking for a "no-nonsense" approach to notation.

  16. MusiXTeX by kenthorvath · · Score: 4, Interesting
    If you like LaTeX, you'll love this. From the website:

    What is MusiXTeX?

    MusiXTeX is a set of TeX macros and fonts to typeset polyphonic or orchestral music. It is still in progress and updated.

    Usually TeX source files are typeset as texts with some control sequences. But MusiXTeX source files are filled with macros to type musical marks, and they look so complicated that many people hesitate at a glance. MusiXTeX is not so easy, that's true. But once you master it, you can produce scores no less quality than the ones on market.

    Anyway, the website is here and it would seem that there is a large archive of classics and standard peices to download as well. I even think that there is a nice WYSIWYG editor someplace for it, but I'm too lazy to search.

  17. MusicXML? by danaris · · Score: 2, Informative

    MusicXML looks like a great notation system, for those of us who like markup languages. However, though it ought not to be too difficult to write some sort of editor and/or printable output generator for it, I haven't yet seen one that's not part of one of the really expensive music suites (like Finale). Does anyone know of an open-source or cheap shareware (or cheap commercial, though preferably with some sort of demo) piece of software that does this?

    Dan Aris

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  18. Try Lime by KJE · · Score: 2, Informative
  19. Lilypond by gperciva · · Score: 3, Informative

    You want Lilypond, a Free sheet music program. We just released version 1.8. You write an input file as a text file, then run Lilypond on the input file (similar to programming). Once you learn the format, it's faster than graphical mousing to enter the notes.

    http://lilypond.org

    Also available from fink. http://fink.sourceforge.net

    Lilypond runs on GNU/Linux, Windows, MacOS, and other *nixs. It produces sheet music that looks better than Finale, but it is Free software.

    Cheers,
    - Graham

  20. Summary by Dominic_Mazzoni · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here's my summary:

    Full featured WYSIWYG notation software:

    Finale - this is like the Microsoft Office of music notation - seems easy to use at first, really annoying once you try to do more complicated things, but has thousands of features. No other program has as many features as Finale, even though Finale implements many of them quite poorly. Totally unintuitive and not very Mac-like. Unfortunately, Finale files are the standard file format in the industry, so if you're going to be trading sheet music with other composers, you'll need to have Finale. See also their low-end versions, Finale Allegro and PrintMusic - there's nothing at all wrong with these if you don't need the features they leave out - mainly the ability to work with large scores and do part extraction.

    Sibelius - intuitive, Mac-like. Easier to use than Finale, though some things take some getting used to. Not quite as powerful. Buggy - not more so than Finale, but in different ways. In theory it can open Finale files - not sure how well it really works.

    Low-end WYSIWYG notation software:

    Harmony Assistant

    Lime Music Notation

    Unix (may work on Mac OS X with Apple's X11):

    Rosegarden

    Text-based (no GUI, but renders nice output):

    MusicTeX

    Lilypond

    Sequencers (may do a little bit of notation):

    Intuem

    Cubase et. al from Steinberg

    Logic Audio

    Please feel free to add and re-post. If someone wants to compile prices for all of these, that would be great.

  21. Sibelius vs Finale by Mullmusik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've used a number of notation programs and I feel I should chime in on the Sibelius vs Finale argument.

    Firstly I've dealt with publishers and for the most part they use neither Finale nor Sibelius, but specialized and sometimes inhouse alternatives. IME they are particularly critical of Finale's copy, and feel that it's not up to snuff for publishable work. Sibelius does fare slightly better in their eyes. In side by side tests Sibelius produces nicer copy, at least IMO.

    Secondly Sibelius IS easier to learn and use than Finale.

    Most importantly, it is a myth in my experience that Sibelius is a less powerful program than Finale. YES, you can set MIDI channels. YES, you can manipulate slurs in extreme ways. Read the manual people. Easy to learn doesn't mean everything is obvious. I've had many discussions with hardcore Finale users, and in every case the features which they felt were unique to Finale are implemented as well or better in Sibelius. (Could be some I'm not familiar with though; any candidates?)

    In conclusion I'd say go with Sibelius, sounds like it's more than adequate for your needs, and you'll be happier in the long run.

  22. My two cents as a professional user by scottblascocomposer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm a composer, and have to say that Sibelius (www.sibelius.com) is my top choice overall. I used Finale (www.finalemusic.com) for years, and only switched because I had to learn Sibelius in order to teach it and absolutely fell in love with it. It's powerful, graceful, not too difficult to use (although, like Finale, more advanced features are a bit more complicated), and VERY importantly, Mac OS X native (I don't use non-native software. Those who haven't been able to update their software within the past 2.5 years don't deserve my business).

    What's more, Sibelius is fast becoming a co-industry-standard format along with Finale, so publishers, competitions, other composers, etc. etc., will more than likely be able to access any files you need to send them. It also converts Finale files rather well (when saved as .EPS files), with minimal cleanup to do.

    It's all about the best tool for the job, and as far as the professional music community is concerned, it's either Finale or Sibelius. Both are good, Finale is not OS X native (though they promise to be in version 2004), and Sibelius is excellent, so I chose Sibelius.

    A word of warning, however: Sibelius is have some kind of MIDI playback problem with Quicktime MIDI in 10.2.4+ which has not been remedied. Using an external MIDI device clears it up completely, but if you're relying on Quicktime built-in MIDI, stay at 10.2.3 or below (including 10.1.x)...

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  23. Sibelius might fit the bill for you. by RaEJaE · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm a composer/arranger, and I would be at a loss without Sibelius. I used to use Finale, but I switched over because I was sick of having to reboot to OS 9 to write my music. I haven't looked back since.

    It costs $599 full price, but for educational and/or religious organization users the educational price is good, and if you shop around a bit, you can get it even cheaper (I found my copy for $170).

    Hope this helps!

    -raejae

    (btw... anybody know if I can change my username to get rid of the nasty caps? Stupid young me...)

  24. Igor engraver.... by Cpt_Corelli · · Score: 2, Informative

    Finale has a pretty steep learning curve compared to other notation software. I have used quite a few of them and found that Igor engraver is one of the best (and easiest to learn).

    See more at this link

    1. Re:Igor engraver.... by scottblascocomposer · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I'm not wild about Igor Engraver. In my experience, it's extremely unstable, rather counter-intuitive ("L" for a slur, short-keys for articulations and rhythmic values mixed together, multiple unnecesary windows open during note entry, etc.), and the output doesn't look half as nice as Sibelius or even Finale.

      I was also amused/appalled that in more than one place, you can click a button/command, and get a dialogue saying that "this feature has not yet been implemented." Mind telling me what the interface for it is doing there, then?

      Igor feels to me like early beta-level software, and a beta version of something that should have been released a couple years ago at that (of course, I've only used it in Windows XP, so maybe it's better on Mac... but where's the OS X version??).

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  25. Re:Summary - "Logic Audio" by Steve+Cowan · · Score: 2, Informative

    A quick note....

    The "Logic Audio" series is now just called "Logic". It is available in 3 different versions: Logic Platinum, Logic Gold, and Logic Audio (they used to be called Logic Audio Platinum, Logic Audio Gold, and Logic Audio Silver).

    You categorize it as a sequencer which may do a little bit of notation - but in fact Logic's score editor is an extremely powerful notation package unto itself. It's leaps beyond any other sequencer package in this area.

    As stated in a previous post, it really is a do-all notation app, but the author is looking for a no-nonsense solution, so Logic's learning curve and poor documentation are its main drawbacks - not features.

  26. Final 2004 by TherealDreck · · Score: 2, Informative

    For all those that are interested. Finale 2004 will be released on October 20th. This will be released as OSX native, and possibly work out some of the bugs inherant with OSX and MIDI.

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  27. Re:Finale by TherealDreck · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just another note about some of the new things involved with this latest version of Finale. You will be able to save your Finale projects as PDFs. This is quite handy for online publishing of your music, and also frees up the time wasted on transfering the file into a more readilly accessible format. Finale is also allowing you to create scripts for it. Allowing you to save a lot of effort converting multiple files into a new arrangement or transpasition. Another addition, which I am grateful for, using finale almost everyday, is the addition of a cue tool, to help create musical cues for performers. Overall, having taken the tour of Finale 2k4 on Coda's Website , there seems to be many improvements that will help with some of the more complicated tasks that it can do, and streamlining some simple tasks that were overly complex in the program. This looks to be a giant leap for the program.

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  28. Logic Audio, you FOOLS! by skia · · Score: 3, Informative
    Not only is Logic now OWNED by Apple (so you can bet it will get the kind of resources Final Cut Pro has been enjoying over the years) but Logic Audio evolved from Notator, hands down the best notation software available (for the Atari).

    While Logic itself can have a bit of a steep learning curve, there are now brilliant books and active, friendly mailing lists available to help you out. And the notation part of the program has always been pretty intuitive. Plus, as an organ player, you might appreciate that Logic has what I feel is the best B3 plug in ever made (Logic comes with a 30 day demo of this, and all its virtual instruments for you to mess around with). And if, down the road, you decide you want to take your notating to the next level and produce/mix/record/arrange/whatever, Logic will be able to take you there.

    There are three different versions of Logic,

    • Logic Audio
    • Logic Gold, and
    • Logic Platinum

    They differ mostly in how many audio tracks you can arrange with, what DSP effects ship with each one, and other minor stuff like being able to draw automation curves. Feature comparison charts are available. For what you describe, you would need nothing more than Logic Audio, but the upgrade path to Gold and Platinum is clear and affordable should you decide you need more later on.

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