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Chemical Element 110 To Be Named

An anonymous reader writes "According to Nature Magazine, chemists will vote in Ottawa, Canada this week, and are expected to approve the chemical element 110's informal moniker, 'darmstadtium', and give it the chemical symbol Ds. The title honors the Laboratory for Heavy Ion Research (called GSI) in Darmstadt, Germany, where the substance was first made. It seems that 'disputes over claimed sightings of new elements have [previously] led to acrimonious and nationalistic battles over naming', but not in this case."

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  1. Darmstadtium? Ewwww by mikeophile · · Score: 4, Informative

    Darm, if I'm not mistaken, means 'intestine'. Stadt means city. So this element is Intestine-city-um.

    1. Re:Darmstadtium? Ewwww by Sven+Tuerpe · · Score: 4, Informative
      Darm, if I'm not mistaken, means 'intestine'. Stadt means city. So this element is Intestine-city-um.

      Exactly. AFAIK the city is named after the wriggly litte rivulet Darmbach which is not quite visible any more in the city.

      Darmstadt, by the way, is about the geekiest place in old Europe. Seemingly ordinary people may actually understand the print on your T-shirt there. Besides GSI, Darmstadt has a Technical University and a University of Applied Sciences. The European Space Operations Center is located there and the Fraunhofer institutes for Secure Telecooperation, Integrated Publication and Information Systems, Computer Graphics, and Structural Durability. Deutsche Telekom is running a research center there and the headquarters of T-Online are about to move to Darmstadt from the nearby town of Weiterstadt. There is a Linux User Group too. Darmstadt officially carries the title Wissenschaftsstadt (city of science). It is located about 30km south of Frankfurt/Main. The bus ride from Frankfurt airport takes 25 minutes.

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  2. Re:Natural vs ??? by Ieshan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Natural vs. Not-naturally occuring.

    It's not quite correct, but basically, they're saying that these other things don't exist unless we try really hard to make them exist in a laboratory.

    For instance, gold, mercury, hydrogen: these are all examples of elements that exist in nature (as well as Lithium, Helium, etc, down the line).

    Yes, they've existed in very small quantities (sometimes not at all, there have been disputes over this), and under very controlled conditions.

    No, of course it's not inconcievable. But remember, elements are created by making a stable (or not so stable) configuration of protons in a little ball. This leaves one to question what is natural: are nuclear explosions and the weapons of the future a "natural" setting?

  3. Re:Natural vs ??? by Lucky+Tony · · Score: 1, Informative

    Past Element 92, they haven't been discovered in nature

  4. Re:Natural vs ??? by Gherald · · Score: 3, Informative

    1) What does this mean exactly?

    They can only be created in a lab.

    2) Is it not possible for us to discover other natural elements?

    There are none left to discover.

    3) Is it inconceivable that our "new" elements could also be produced under similar conditions in nature?

    Such conditions do not exist in nature.

    4) Have all of these new elements only existed in very small quantities for short periods of time, under controlled conditions?

    Yes

  5. Re:Natural vs ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Most 'unnatural' elements (all?) have been discovered in stars, 'natural' elements, however, are pretty much everwhere, if even in small quantities.

    'Unnatural' just means they're not commonplace, really. And to 'get' them an unnatural process is necessary. (Like bombarding another element with particles / energy.)

  6. Named Tomorrow? by Joe+Jordan · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's already on the webelements.com page, with some interesting info on the chemical makeup.

  7. How fast is it's decay time by asciimonster · · Score: 2, Informative
    I saw that Webelements.com already updated their website.

    I wonder how small it's decay time is. I know the elements before it have halflives of several nano- to picoseconds. It'll be gone before you can say "fast". These scientist better not have a cold: Press the button to start experiment. HATSJOO!!!". Oh darned, missed it.

    Ununnillium gone, Darmstadtium in. Mendelev would be proud.

  8. Don't /. Nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Chemical element 110, which was discovered in 1994, will finally get a name tomorrow.

    A committee will vote at this weekend's General Assembly of the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) in Ottawa, Canada. It is expected to approve the element's informal moniker, 'darmstadtium', and give it the chemical symbol Ds. The title honours the Laboratory for Heavy Ion Research (called GSI) in Darmstadt, Germany, where the substance was first made.

    The natural elements run out at number 92, uranium. Several more have been made artificially since 1939, when researchers at the University of California at Berkeley bombarded uranium with a beam of neutrons to create element 93, which they called neptunium.

    Firing subatomic particles at heavy atoms became the preferred method of making new elements. The basic aim is to add more protons to the atomic nuclei - an element is defined by the number of protons its atoms contain. Some new elements were also detected in the fallout from nuclear bomb tests in the 1950s.

    Element-making soon became a race. In the 1960s and 1970s the two main players were a Soviet group at the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research in Dubna and a team spanning the University of California and the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. The discoverers of a new element generally win the right to name it, although the new name still has to receive IUPAC approval.

    The natural elements run out around
    number 92

    But disputes over claimed sightings of new elements have led to acrimonious and nationalistic battles over naming. These elements decay quickly, and are often made only a few atoms at a time - so it can be hard to gather convincing evidence.

    In 1987 IUPAC was forced to assess priority claims over all the new elements from 104 to 107. Then in 1993 a new controversy erupted when the Berkeley team wanted to name element 106 after nuclear-chemistry pioneer Glenn Seaborg. IUPAC insisted at first that 'seaborgium' broke the rules, because Seaborg was still alive at that time. It relented only after the American Chemical Society threatened rebellion.

    No one disputes GSI's claim to element 110. There was, however, some relief when the German results, produced by fusing lead and nickel nuclei, were confirmed last June at Berkeley using the same process1. Element-hunters have been more cautious since a Berkeley team was forced to retract unreproducible data published in support of a reported 1999 creation of element 118.

  9. Re:Natural vs ??? by waynemcdougall · · Score: 5, Informative
    According to the article, the "natural" elemements "run out" at 92

    1) What does this mean exactly?

    It means that the first 92 elements can be found naturally occurring, but that after 92 (the trans-uranic elements) have to be produced in a laboratory or under artifical conditions if you want useful amounts.

    2) Is it not possible for us to discover other natural elements?

    If by discover, you mean create then yes. Since an element is definied by the number of (integer >0) protons, any new elements created must have an atomic number >92.

    3) Is it inconceivable that our "new" elements could also be produced under similar conditions in nature?

    Not inconceivable. It has been verified that minutes amounts of trans-uranic elements have been found in nature. But given that these lements have a very short life time (before they decay into other elements), you'd have to be around immediately after their formation to detect them in nature. Since their creation requires high amounts of energy, super nova, intense gamma radiation near black holes, etc, are the sort of environments where you might find naturally ocurring trans-uranic elements (remembering too that you basically need to smash into heavy elements to get the trans-uranic ones, the very heavy ones need to be present to). Such environments are are rare and not conducive to observation. Given that the elements in the universe are hydrogen, helium and minor traces short-lived trans-uranic are not going to be found in nature in any partical sense.

    4) Have all of these new elements only existed in very small quantities for short periods of time, under controlled conditions?

    Yes. There are some theories that there would be an island of stability around element 120+. Scientists are working to create a stable trans-uranic element, and I for one welcome our trans-uranic overlords and would like to remind them that being primarily made of stable isotopes I can be useful in rounding up other carbon based elemental life forms to slave in their radioactive piles.

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  10. Re:Natural vs ??? by Xrikcus · · Score: 4, Informative

    The elements above 92 that have been "discovered" in that they could be predicted, but had never been shown to be possible to create before. It is feasible that the high numbered elements could be created naturally, for example in a supernova, however the real problem is that atoms of that size are fundamentally unstable, so have very short half-lives and therefore collapse into smaller atoms very quickly.

    It also depends on the isotope of the element, that is changes the ratio of neutrons to protons (the proton count being the atomic number). For example, the half-life of meitnerium (element 109) is most stable as meitnerium-268, ie 109 protons, 159 neutrons, has a half life of 0.07 seconds. So any amount of it produced will not last long. These results are only theoretical, the isotope produced was meitnerium-266, which has a half-life of 3.8 milliseconds.

    So yes, they could occur naturally, but not for long enough for anyone to notice.

    It's early, that may not have made sense...

  11. One more thing - technetium by Raul654 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just one more answer I'd like to add to your questions (because so many have been submitted). The natural elements stop occuring after atomic number 92, yes. But it's also worth point out that for all intents and purposes, technetium (element #43) does not exist in nature either.

    After decades of searching, extremely small quantites were obtained from pitchblend, but that's negligible.

    Long story short (long answer being availabe from google cache here) is that pairing energy makes the atom extremely unstable and causes it to break -a(C)Y quickly.

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  12. Re:Natural vs ??? by hughk · · Score: 4, Informative
    It's not quite correct, but basically, they're saying that these other things don't exist unless we try really hard to make them exist in a laboratory.
    All existing naturally ocurring heavy elements are the result of ancient supernovae. It is quite possible that these new elements already exist around other supernovae, which whilst catastropic, are definitely natural. It is just that none was around when the earth coalesced.
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  13. Re:Natural vs ??? by Shriek · · Score: 1, Informative

    Element 114 is Ununquadium

    Element 114

  14. Re:Element 101? by TuataraShoes · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ether was added to the list after Earth, Wind, Water and Fire. No joke - this is old Greek stuff. Someone said ether had circular properties, explaining the moon and cycles in nature...

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  15. Pretty periodic table site by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Wooden Periodic Table

    Perhaps some of you knew this one already, but it's one of the most useful ones I've found so far and I really like those huge and high quality pictures they have for most elements that you can take meaningful pictures of. :-)

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  16. And there I was... by Tim+C · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...thinking that it was already called Ununnilium.

    1. Re:And there I was... by Novus · · Score: 2, Informative

      ...thinking that it was already called Ununnilium.

      ... which is pseudo-Latin for "one-one-zero-ium". It's just a temporary name consisting of the element's number and the ending "ium" to make it sound scientific.

    2. Re:And there I was... by Novus · · Score: 2, Informative

      This page about ununnilium also explains how the temporary (or IUPAC systematic) name is generated from the number.

    3. Re:And there I was... by Novus · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not a tempory name. That's it's offical IUPAC name.

      No and yes. According to the article:

      A committee will vote at this weekend's General Assembly of the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) in Ottawa, Canada. It is expected to approve the element's informal moniker, 'darmstadtium', and give it the chemical symbol Ds.

      According to IUPAC's naming rules for elements 101 and up:

      The systematic names and symbols for elements of atomic numbers greater than 103 are the only approved names and symbols for those elements until the approval of trivial names by IUPAC.

      In other words, the systematic name is official until a trivial name is approved. This means that the systematic name, although official, is temporary. In the case of ununnilium, it may shortly be officially renamed to "darmstadtium", which would imply that the name "ununnilium" is temporary.

      I hope I don't get moderated "-1, vicious pedantry" for this. B-)
  17. So Chemistry naming is a Science of spin too? by ratfynk · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Chemically, darmstadtium is in the same Group as nickel, palladium, and platinum (Group 10). Unlike these lighter atoms, darmstadtium decays after a small fraction of a thousandth of a second into lighter elements by emitting a-particles which are the nuclei of helium atoms." So that is where microsoft got the idea! Here is a brief description of the real palladium. Since it is used in industry for membrane gas extraction and isolation tech, then I guess having software that can control the user is the a valid concept. I see why they are using the code name Longhorn now someone in the spin department realised that palladium is an element that is actually used to control things!
    Hopefully Longhorn or MS "Palladium" will turn out
    to be more like 'darmstadtium' which is really vapour ware and only lasts a few thousandths of a before self distructing!
    Here is the real scoop on Palladium
    "Standard state: solid at 298 K
    Colour: silvery white metallic
    Classification: Metallic
    Availability: palladium is available in many forms including wire, foil, "evaporation slugs", granule, powder, rod, shot, sheet, and sponge. Small and large samples of palladium foil, sheet, and wire can be purchased from Advent Research Materialsvia their web catalogue.
    Ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, osmium, iridium, and platinum together make up a group of elements referred to as the platinum group metals (PGM). Compound of the platinum group metals and their Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) are available online through the Alfa Aesar catalogue.
    Palladium is a steel-white metal, does not tarnish in air, and is the least dense and lowest melting of the platinum group metals. When annealed, it is soft and ductile. Cold working increases its strength and hardness. It is used in some watch springs.

    At room temperatures the metal has the unusual property of absorbing up to 900 times its own volume of hydrogen. Hydrogen readily diffuses through heated palladium and this provides a means of purifying the gas.

    Isolation
    Here is a brief summary of the isolation of palladium.
    It would not normally be necessary to make a sample of palladium in the laboratory as the metal is available commercially. The industrial extraction of palladium is complex as the metal occurs in ores mixed with other metals such as platinum. Sometimes extraction of the precious metals such as platinum and palladium is the main focus of a partiular industrial operation while in other cases it is a byproduct. The extraction is complex and only worthwhile since palladium is the basis of important catalysts in industry.

    Preliminary treatment of the ore or base metal byproduct with aqua regia (a mixture of hydrochloric acid, HCl, and nitric acid, HNO3) gives a solution containing complexes of gold and platinum as well as H2PdCl4. The gold is removed from this solution as a precipitate by treatment with iron chloride (FeCl2). The platinum is precipitated out as (NH4)2PtCl6 on treatment with NH4Cl, leaving H2PdCl4 in solution. The palladium is precipitated out by treatment with ammonium hydroxide, NH4OH, and HCl as the complex PdCl2(NH3)2. This yields palladium metal by burning."

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  18. Re:Great Post! by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Informative
    I must have missed the part where the professor explained WHY we have unstable elements. We have so many stable elements that I've always wondered why everything on the table >92 is unstable?

    I remember a little more: nuclei are made of protons (positively charged) and neutrons (no charge), usually in roughly equal numbers (except Hydrogen, which is usually just a proton). The protons repel each other. The nucleus is held together by a very powerful, but very short range nuclear force between both protons and neutrons. As the nucleus gets bigger, the electric repulsion starts to overcome the nuclear force, and the nucleus becomes more and more likely to decay. But I don't remember why you can't just have a pile of neutrons...

    Actually #92, Uranium, is unstable, but U238 has a half-life of 4.4 billion years, which is why it's not that hard to find (about half of it has decayed since the creation of the earth). I think all elements above 83 (Bismuth) are unstable. The short-lived ones are found in nature as the result of decay of Uranium or the other longer-lived ones. See this table of isotopes.

  19. Re:Natural vs ??? by mikerich · · Score: 4, Informative
    1) What does this mean exactly?

    Elements are distinguished from one another by the number of protons in their nuclei. Hydrogen has 1, helium 2 and so on. The heaviest naturally occuring element found on Earth is number 92 - uranium.

    The limiting factor on elements heavier than 92 is that they are unstable. In fact all of the heavier elements are unstable - they are radioactive, parts of their nuclei keep falling off - they turn into new, lighter elements. So uranium decays step by step, down the periodic table eventually forming lead.

    The reason for nuclear decay is a concept known as binding energy - the energy needed to hold a nucleus together. Very simply, the nucleus consists of postively charged protons - each repelling the other. If this repulsion was not counteracted the nucleus would disintegrate. However, the nucleus also contains neutrons - which act very much like glue - sticking protons together. If you measure the binding energy of all the elements you will notice that it rises rapidly from hydrogen, peaking around iron (element 26) and then gradually diminishing towards uranium.

    By the time you reach uranium, the binding energy is barely able to hold the nucleus together, beyond uranium, the nuclei of the elements become extremely unstable - they decay - rapidly.

    2) Is it not possible for us to discover other natural elements?

    Below 92? No. Each element must have at least one proton (in which case it is called hydrogen), we have found each and every element between 1 and 92. You can't have half a proton, so there are just 92 elements in Nature (see proviso below). Some models of atomic nuclei suggest that there are elements heavier than 92 which are comparatively stable - they would be radioactive and decay, but might have considerable half-lives. The theoretical 'island of stability' lies out between elements 118 and 130 (?) - but as yet remains undiscovered.

    3) Is it inconceivable that our "new" elements could also be produced under similar conditions in nature?

    Yes, supernovae are capable of building up super-heavy elements. However, the short half-lives of the elements mean that they have long since decayed in the rocks around us. The synthetic elements neptunium (93) and plutonium (94) are also generated in minute quantities in naturally occuring uranium.

    4) Have all of these new elements only existed in very small quantities for short periods of time, under controlled conditions?

    Pretty much, although some of the synthetic elements were first discovered in the residue of nuclear weapons tests.

    Hope that helps,
    Mike.

  20. Re:Great Post! by mikerich · · Score: 4, Informative
    We have so many stable elements that I've always wondered why everything on the table >92 is unstable?

    Actually everything past bismuth 209 is unstable. 92 is merely the last element to have any isotopes that are stable on a geological timescale (U238 half-life around 4.5 * 10^9 years).

    As for why, simply put their nuclei are very loosely held together. Neutrons hold nuclei together with a force known as binding energy (think of it as atomic glue).

    For very light elements, (up to around calcium (element 20) stability is achieved by more or less associating one neutron with every proton. However, for heavier elements, an excess of neutrons is needed to hold the nucleus together - the excess growing as elements get heavier.

    Simply put (and I hope any physicists will forgive me for this - they have equations and everything!) The electrostatic repulsion between the protons in the nucleus operates over a larger distance than the stronger, binding force of the neutrons. As the nucleus grows, the protons in the nucleus experience a weakening binding force. Beyond a certain point (Bismuth 209) this binding force is insufficient to hold the nucleus together forever - the nucleus will decay.

    Best wishes,
    Mike.

  21. Re:Natural vs ??? by fault0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, and already one such relatively stable element exists-- a single atom of element 114 with 114 protons and 175 neutrons was created that lasted for 30 (!) seconds. This might not be much, but is MUCH greater than lasting for one thousanth of a second like many other elements (z > 100) have.

    Theoretically, an atom of element 114 with 114 protons and 183 neutrons is supposed to be perfectly stable (or have a uber-long half life).. 114 and 183 are so called magic numbers where stablity occurs.

  22. Re:Great Post! by NichG · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can't just have a big pile of neutrons because neutrons convert to protons and electrons with a halflife of about 10 minutes if not bound up with sufficient protons. So if you started with 200 neutrons, after awhile you'd end up with some mix of protons and neutrons forming elements.

    On the other hand, in appropriate conditions (very large pressures) you can suppress that conversion and you get a very big pile of neutrons - a neutron star. Unfortunately, I don't think we have the ability to generate sufficient pressures for this in a lab :)

    NichG

  23. Already named by slavemowgli · · Score: 2, Informative

    Isn't that name already the official name for element 110? According to Wikipedia, the name was officially accepted by the IUPAC in May 2003 already.

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  24. Re:Boy am I behind the times... by slavemowgli · · Score: 3, Informative

    107: Bohrium 108: Hassium 109: Meitnerium Hope this helps. :)

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  25. Re:Natural vs ??? by RevMike · · Score: 2, Informative
    A lot of people have beat this to death, but I'd like to add my own spin...

    According to the article, the "natural" elemements "run out" at 92.

    1) What does this mean exactly?

    With a few exceptions, all the elements with 92 protons or less have been observed in nature. They are proven to exist without human intervention. The elements with 93 or more protons have only been observed to exist as the result or side effect of some experiment we did. We've proven that they can exist, but we can't prove that they do exist (without our intervention). It is likely that, if one of these trans-uranic elements was later found in nature, it would still not be called "natural" because it was first observed in a laboratory.

    2) Is it not possible for us to discover other natural elements?

    Never say never, but if these elements are created in nature, they tend to be in such tiny amounts that they are effectively undetectable. Furthermore, these elements tend to be created under such extreme conditions and usually exist for such a short time that they are additionally difficult to detect.

    You may have better luck trying to indirectly observe these elements in nature by looking for longer lived elements that result when the transuranic decays. Think of it as infering that wood once existed by looking for wood ash.

    3) Is it inconceivable that our "new" elements could also be produced under similar conditions in nature?

    It is quite conceivable - by the same logic that enough monkeys working at enough typewriters would produce the works of Shakespeare. The universe is big enough for it to happen somewhere at some time, but it is unusual enough that it would likely not be detected.

    4) Have all of these new elements only existed in very small quantities for short periods of time, under controlled conditions?

    Some of them are relatively stable. Plutonium and Americium have appreciable half lives. Others exist for only a fraction of a second.