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Microsoft Tracking Behavior of Newsgroup Posters

theodp writes "Ever get the feeling your Usenet newsgroup list is being watched? By Microsoft? If so, consider yourself right. An interesting but troubling CNET interview with Microsoft's in-house sociologist goes into how the software giant is keeping a close eye on newsgroups and other public e-mail lists, tracking and rating contributors' social habits and determining "people who the system has shown to have value." Those concerned that it's not a good idea for computers to track their belongings and whereabouts are advised that they may ultimately have to fragment their identities, keeping multiple IDs and e-mail addresses."

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  1. Good by smittyoneeach · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hopefully the general contempt for proprietary, inferior solutions will drive them towards some better stuff.

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    1. Re:Good by saden1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have a deffierent ID and email for each of my personalties, doesn' everyone?

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    2. Re:Good by tybalt44 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't, but I think a couple of my other personalities do.

  2. This sounds familiar! by Pvt_Waldo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hmm a system that tracks who's posts are of value and who's are not. I would suggest a scheme where they mark people's post as "Interesting", "Informative", and other such words. Maybe some way to mark them as "Funny" and even "Flame bait" or "Troll" if they are just obnoxious posters trying to get a fight going.

    What do you think? Would it work?

    Oh wait!

    1. Re:This sounds familiar! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      What do you think? Would it work?

      I think the obvious answer to that would be a resounding no :)

    2. Re:This sounds familiar! by Asprin · · Score: 4, Funny


      What do you think? Would it work?

      Beats me -- I'm still swamped trying to develop a web shopping site that lets you buy things with less than 2 mouse clicks. (I've got it down to four!)

      Maybe I can give you a hand once I get this whole "hyperlink" thing in the box and ready to ship.

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  3. On the Internet ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 5, Funny
    Microsoft knows you're a dog.

    Woof.

  4. Paranoia by heironymouscoward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is a suitable state of mind when large and powerful groups decide they want to spy on you.

    I'm sure MS already spies on Slashdot and tracks every profile here. I have four, and switch between them carefully, unt sometimez I speek in forin lanjuajes just to confooze them.

    On the other hand, this reminds me strangely of a scene from Dilbert.

    Serf1: Boss, I need to monitor newsnet.
    PHB: why?
    Serf1: So we can track our competitors, manipulate public opinion, and run smear campaigns against political opponents.
    PHB: sounds fine...
    Serf1: It will take nine months, that's ok?
    PHB: yes, get someone to help you if you need it.

    later..

    Serf2: So, did you get it?
    Serf1: Yes, we're now official newsnet spies.
    Serf2: porn on, dude!!! alt.binaries, here I come.
    Serf1: I've asked for some new hard drives too... :)

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  5. SCO IP Infringer List by McBride,+Darl · · Score: 5, Funny
    Here at SCO, we've been doing something similar to this for months. We've been tracking user comments on slashdot to compile an extensive list of Linux zealots to go after once our lawsuit against IBM is successful.

    Bide your time well, Linux zealots, for the mighty power of SCO's IP will reign down upon thee!

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  6. No problem by smatt-man · · Score: 5, Funny

    I figure we have nothing to worry about. If Microsoft wrote the tracking software, then it probably doesn't work anyway.

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  7. Not Big Brother by randomErr · · Score: 3, Funny

    At least they're not big brother.

    Rate me higher Microsoft. Hire me Microsoft. I want to have your children Microsoft. I know your watching this site Microsoft. I'm identity # 285-75-4210.

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  8. Re:I read the article! by gordon_schumway · · Score: 3, Funny

    Goddamnit people! It's ':Cue:Cat'!

    Eri:c :Chavez
    :CEO, Digital :Convergen:ce

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  9. Pay attention kids.... by NightSpots · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now that they've confirmed that they do this, there's only one thing to remember:

    Before you fly up to Redmond for your interview, make sure you post a year's worth of insightful commentary on major relevant newsgroups, with your name and email attached

  10. Bleh. by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 4, Funny

    An interesting article from the School of Common Sense shows that your public actions are being monitored by everybody who sees them!

    "The privacy implications of this are staggering," says some guy who gets inflammed by things. "People could figure out all sorts of patterns about your life. Why, if they observe you going to the pet store, they could actually figure out that you likely own a pet! Next thing you know, you'll be getting subscription offers for pet magazines. Nobody needs that."

    People who fear this massive intrusion of privacy have several options open to them. First, the use of full face masks, and body costumes, can confuse potential observers. Make sure to change masks and costumes frequently. Visiting stores and locations that you wouldn't normally visit can 'sour' their tracking data as well.

    "If you have children, drop them off at a school that they don't attend," says Imflammatory Boy, "and tell them to walk to their real school."

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  11. OT: Re:Good thing that guy isn't a programmer... by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 4, Funny
    Perhaps these same programmers to which you refer are the ones who use "write-only-memory"

    Say...anyone know if there is still a display case near the elevator in one of the basements of the EE building at Caltech that displays less-than-successful projects of the faculty and students? If so, does it still include Carver Mead's 4K write-only memory card (from back in the days when 4K was a lot of memory)? (No, it wasn't INTENDED to be write-only).

  12. Re:What's wrong with this? by crazyphilman · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not just Microsoft. There are companies called "clipping services" which have been around for decades. They employ warehouses full of people, reading newspapers from all around the country, clipping out articles that relate to a client or set of clients. The client would get a notice mailed to him/her including the clipping and some time/date/source info. Just about every newspaper in the country is monitored.

    Over the years, the clipping services expanded out, adding AP feeds, Newswire, etc. They suck articles right off the wire and store them for their customer's perusal. Then they added newsgroup and chatroom monitoring, and of course web monitoring. They use web spiders to capture the info, and databases to store it.

    This is very widespread, and it's been going on for years. Do a google search on "clipping services" if you don't believe me. Anything you write online about a company who can afford the service is noticed, printed out, and sent to them by a flunky.

    Why worry? It's not like you can do anything about it. So Microsoft knows that I think they suck. Big deal. Hey, Gates! You suck! See? No hitmen busting down my door, no guidos breaking my leggaggdafsafal;nfdasl'(MESSAGE TERMINATED)

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  13. Re:Tracking Slashdot too by BWJones · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, given the very pro Microsoft stances that many folks have here in response to anything critical of Microsoft, I have wondered if they are paying attention to Slashdot as well. Especially considering that many of the rabidly pro-MS posts are posted as AC.

    Modded as Offtopic and flamebait? Oh, no. It's worse than I feared. Not only are they paying attention to Slashdot, they have infiltrated the ranks of moderators! :-)

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  14. Re:Huh? by OneIsNotPrime · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, who among us doesn't already keep multiple Slashdot accounts to mod ourselves up as "Insightful" every once in a while?

    Err... never mind.

    Well I think I deserve it.

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  15. There is this one slashdot user . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    We were having a lot of trouble tuning our psychoanalysis routine. There was this one user on slashdot that kept crashing the system. We finally decided that the user is one of the worst recorded cases of multiple personality disorder. Some of the personalities were found to be incredibly psychotic and anti-social, others brilliant. Basically all over the map. Finally we just had to filter out all messages from Mr. Coward.

  16. They're monitoring email, too by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 4, Funny

    They've been doing it for years. If this one email will just get around to 25,000 people, Bill Gates will send everybody a $1000 check. It shouldn't be surprising that they're monitoring Usenet, too, probably just to send checks to people there.