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MPlayer 1.0Pre1 Is Here

bfree writes "Now on your favourite mplayer mirror you can find the 1.0Pre1 release of Mplayer! While work is underway on a second-generation version of Mplayer, I have already fired off emails to my Windows-based friends to let them now that the one player to rule them all now has (preview) support for their OS (I've only looked at a precompiled command line version on Windows but it handled everything I threw at it so far except DVDs). Big changes include Windows (via mingw32 and cygwin) ports, as well as Mac OS X (with extra-accurate Darwin timers). Now if only all those legal questions would go away, perhaps we could have a new killer Free Software application to save people installing Real, Quicktime and Windows Media Player (on Linux!?) or perhaps it's the one application to finally tell the **AA where the world wants to go today!"

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  1. kplayer by Baloo+Ursidae · · Score: 2, Funny

    Duh, you don't use gmplayer in KDE, you use mplayer or kplayer instead.

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  2. Whoa by jabbadabbadoo · · Score: 2, Funny
    "one player to rule them all."

    Let us not hope Sauron - err, Bill Gates - gets to it!

  3. What would make the ultimate player... by Channard · · Score: 5, Interesting

    .. would be a feature that could play DVDs from any region on Windows regardless of how many changes the OS thinks you've got left. Currently, even if your DVD-Rom is region-free, Windows XP and 2000 are real swines when it comes to standing in the way of region-free playback.

    1. Re:What would make the ultimate player... by Dicky · · Score: 4, Informative

      You mean something like this?.

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    2. Re:What would make the ultimate player... by pbettendorff · · Score: 5, Informative

      Have a look at VideoLAN http://www.videolan.org/ and don't be confused by the name :-)

    3. Re:What would make the ultimate player... by xybe · · Score: 5, Informative

      Nah, probably something like this Availiable for major destkop platforms.

    4. Re:What would make the ultimate player... by k98sven · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I thought that these days the DVD-ROM firmware controls the number of available region changes, not OS or the playback software.

      Yup.. of course, that doesn't stop programs like the one mentioned above from sitting inbetween the firmware and the OS/playback software and giving it different numbers.

      However, there are quite a lot of places where you can get region-free firmware..
      Flash once and liberate your drive from geographical restrictions forever!

    5. Re:What would make the ultimate player... by Channard · · Score: 4, Informative
      However, there are quite a lot of places [rpc1.org] where you can get region-free firmware.. Flash once and liberate your drive from geographical restrictions forever!

      Which is what I did, and it worked fine with Windows 98 and 95, after I just deleted a registry setting. However, 2000 and XP are, in my experience, a lot more tricky and recreated the registry setting on reloading and needed some DVD Genie style software to work. It seems later vers of Windows do more to stop you playing DVDs you legally own yet which the manufacturers have decided should be viewed only in certain countries.

    6. Re:What would make the ultimate player... by Eric+Ass+Raymond · · Score: 4, Informative
      You can find the firmware packages here. You have to create a DOS boot disk (ie. you cannot update the firmware in Windows). The ZIP file contains both the flash utility and the firmware. Just make sure you download the correct firmware. Also note that there are some special firmwares for OEM drive versions.

      I did a successful flash and now my LG DVD-ROM 8161B works perfectly! The auto-reset firmware sets the available number of region changes to the maximum every time I boot the computer. Neat!

    7. Re:What would make the ultimate player... by thumperward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Oh god, the moderators got it wrong again. VLC can't circumvent your drive's firmware, which is the only way to get rid of region-coding on all drives. CSS isn't the same as region coding.

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  4. Surely by archonon · · Score: 3, Informative

    Mplayer rule them all? Yeah right, I guess Linux that zealots haven't ever heard Zoom Player. (It rules already)
    Zoom Player

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    1. Re:Surely by Deusy · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'll start by giving the direct link to Zoom Player.

      I'll follow up by shedding light on why we haven't heard about it:

      "Zoom Player Standard remains Free for Non-Commercial use, while Zoom Player Professional comes in a Fully Functional (uncrippled) trial version and requires registration ($19.95 U.S.)."

      Didn't you know? We're Free Software advocates, not free software advocates.

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    2. Re:Surely by jgarland79 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh yea.. Zoom player. That wouldn't play my streaming mpeg video from ffserver either. Seems the only player that will is mplayer.

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    3. Re:Surely by jilles · · Score: 3, Informative

      There's plenty of oss players too. Bsplayer (bsplayer.org) and media player classic (http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/) come to mind. Both are excellent players and play anything you can throw at it (including DVDs if you have the right codecs installed). However, they use the ms media player codecs so they are not completely free. However, if you are on windows that is not necessarily a bad thing.

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    4. Re:Surely by ANTI · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Sure.

      Zoom Player was the only useable player on windows.
      (I'm forced to use XP on our university machines.)

      I just grabbed mplayer 1.0pre1 and build it on one of these boxes.

      I have to say ... zoom player will be deleted from all boxes withing the next few days (if I find the time).
      I doesn't even stand a chance against mplayer...

      Why ?
      Resource usage. (Memory and CPU)
      # of supported codecs.
      Even plays broken files. (And I get a lot of those from my students.)

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  5. Re:I can't give up windows yet but have been... by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Informative
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  6. legal questions by Mosu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    mplayer will never be free of legal questions. Too many libs are bundled with it, and I for one am glad about it! Compiling multimedia applications can be a major pain in the youknowwhat with all those library dependencies. Mplayer bundles the more important libs (liba52, libavcodec aka ffmpeg, and now even faad2). This makes the build process far more reliable and definitely easier.

    But what would mplayer look like without all those libs? Well just take a look at the mplayer versions shipped with major distros. They're crippled, can't play most popular/modern files, and almost everyone has to download other uncrippled binaries or compile from source. I fully understand why no mplayer developer, me included, cares about legality.

    1. Re:legal questions by Daengbo · · Score: 5, Informative
      You should grab the package from LinuxTLE. If you are on RH8.0, it should drop in without a problem. It's produced and distributed by the Thai gov't, and comes precompiled with everything they can put in there. Add this line to your apt repositories if you're using apt-rpm.
      rpm ftp://ftp2.nectec.or.th/pub/linux-distributions/Li nux_TLE/ andaman/i386/TLE main updates
      and install the following:
      • mplayer-common-0.90rc4-2_4tle
      • mplayer-skin-BlueHeart-1.4-2
      • mplayer-skin-Cyrus-1.0-2
      • mplayer-skin-hwswskin-1.0-2
      • mplayer-skin-neutron-1.4-2
      • mplayer-skin-slim-1.0-2
      • mplayer-skin-xine-lcd-1.0-2
      • mplayer-skin-avifile-1.5-2
      • mplayer-skin-CubicPlayer-1.0-2
      • mplayer-skin-gnome-1.1-2
      • mplayer-skin-netscape4-1.0-2
      • mplayer-skin-proton-1.1-2
      • mplayer-skin-xanim-1.5-2
      • mplayer-skin-AlienMind-1.0-2
      • mplayer-skin-CornerMP-aqua-1.0-2
      • mplayer-gui-0.90rc4-2_4tle
      • mplayer-skin-MidnightLove-1.5-2
      • mplayer-skin-plastic-1.1.1-2
      • mplayer-skin-WindowsMediaPlayer6-1.2-2
      • mplayer-0.90rc4-2_4tle
      • mplayer-skin-CornerMP-1.0-2
      • mplayer-skin-default-1.6-2
      • mplayer-skin-mentalic-1.1-2
      • mplayer-skin-phony-1.0-2
      • mplayer-skin-trium-1.0-2
      • mplayer-tools-0.90rc4-2_4tle
      You should then have my setup, which plays everything I have thrown at it.
    2. Re:legal questions by dabadab · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, mplayer is mostly usable without any win32 lib and that means there are no copyright problems. All you really need is libavcodec: and there are no problems with that aside from the patents, and, as of this time, these are not enforcable in Europe and I hope that it stays so.

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    3. Re:legal questions by dabadab · · Score: 2, Informative

      And what would be the problem with libcss in Europe? I am not aware of any decision against it.

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    4. Re:legal questions by Stiletto · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who needs a plugin extendable "media framework" when the player simply works?

      I would counter that the big problem facing many other linux video players is the fact that they were developed as great "frameworks" but no one really worried about whether they actually played files.

      This problem exists in other projects I've downloaded and tried (I won't name names of course). The typical app is a great skinnable, plugin-able, dynamically loadable uber-framework, but when it comes down to actually performing the task it's designed for, well, that'll be ready next release.

    5. Re:legal questions by 13Echo · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't understand. MPlayer *does* actually play files. It can stream any normal format as well. It plays all files except really obscure and useless formats.

  7. Link by WatertonMan · · Score: 4, Informative
    The article didn't give the link for downloading.

    Download MPlayer

    Unfortunately I only saw the Linux player there and source. I believe the OSX binary is still the July version. So there may be a delay before it is available.

    OSX MPlayer

    1. Re:Link by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 4, Informative

      win32 has been here for months now in various states of workingness. It's unstable, but less so than the newest version of wmp. If your copy doesnt work, wait a few days and download a new one. The one I'm using has been working nicely for 3 or 4 months now.

      The best part is its just like the non-windows version -- it can still play quicktime/realplayer without loading their bloated apps. It also plays xvid/divx in high res cleanly which is needed for some game moveie, something WMP and Winamp both skip for 2 seconds every 10 just to resync.(note - I'm on an amd 1800+, 256mb ram, and a gf2mx400. not entirely the highest end system ever, but enough to decode simple video.)

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  8. And... by Channard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    .. the ability to save streaming content straight to HD wouldn't go amiss either.

    1. Re:And... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      mencoder http://some-stream/ -oac copy -ovc copy -o somefile

      that works here quite nicely for saving video streams

  9. Re:first post by Deusy · · Score: 2, Informative

    I agree gmplayer is a very poor interface.

    I much prefer Totem - although that's Gtk+ based.

    You could try KPlayer or eMotion - the only KDE/Qt alternatives I'm aware of.

    Or <flamebait>you could just switch to a better desktop</flamebait> - the perfect time now that the 2.4 release is imminent!

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  10. But how does it stand up to the comeptition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Xine? (Well in my opinion, xine is too buggy, crashes on most files and its gui sucks)
    Videolan? (I never tried it)
    Kmplayer? (The KDE port of mplayer, its got lovely kde goodness)
    Gstreamer? (Well gstreamer is just the library, but it has gst-player and totem as guis, but the library is still in beta, but stabler than Xine)
    Ogle?
    Xmovie?
    RealPlayer (linux version)?

    I don't have time to try it now, so id like some opinions.

    1. Re:But how does it stand up to the comeptition? by Wolfbone · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have tried Xine,Ogle,Videolan and Mplayer and found Ogle to be too primitive as yet. Xine has always worked extremely well for me (no instability) and is technically very proficient, plus it supports all the file formats I've ever needed it to. Videolan is pretty much equivalent to Xine but I don't like it's gui and it was annoying to have to build yet another gui toolkit (wxWindows) just for one app. Mplayer is in many ways technically superior to all the others and I would use it all the time except it doesn't support DVD navigation. If it ever does it would be a no-brainer, for me anyway.

      If you have had stability problems with Xine, that's unlucky because I would rate it just ahead of Videolan, usability wise. My advice would be to set aside a day or a Weekend just for building and testing Mplayer, Xine and Videolan, reading all the documentation and trying different optimizations and runtime configurations until you find the one which suits you best.

    2. Re:But how does it stand up to the comeptition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      Xine? (Well in my opinion, xine is too buggy, crashes on most files and its gui sucks)
      Have you used Xine recently? It handles most, if not all of the files I've thrown at it. Now, i'll agree that the interface sucks, but one of the great features of xine (imho) is that the gui is de-coupled from the video decoding libraries. There are many other players that use xine-lib to decode the files, such as: Even more are listed on xine's website here. Totem is the only one there I can vouch for, being a gnome user myself, but the point remains that you don't have to stick with the xine-ui one.
    3. Re:But how does it stand up to the comeptition? by 13Echo · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've found that MPlayer is more stable than XINE, and it plays video with a lot less CPU load. However, on one occasion, I had to use a XINElib based player (Totem) to play a really messed up WMV file that didn't seem to be properly encoded. Totem (XINElib) could play it, but MPlayer gave no video, even though they were using the same codecs from the same directory.

      MPlayer is my default player of choice, without the GUI (I prefer to use the arrowkeys for file navigation). It's associated in Nautilus to play all of my files. However, I keep Totem as my backup, though I've only had to use it once (in two years). I've found XINElib stuff to hard-lock my machine on multiple occasions, though in recent tests its been much more stable.

      One final thing about MPlayer. It, and its encoder, MEncoder, are great programs. You can have MPlayer send the output of an audi file to a raw PCM or WAV format, and convert it into OGG or MP3, so that you can play the files back in XMMS or something. I used it recently to convert some WMVs into OGG, for testing, and it sounded great. I couldn't notice any real difference between the files, and all of my Linux players could then handle the file.

  11. Windows users: Media Player Classic by Zarhan · · Score: 4, Informative

    For Windows, I would suggest using Media Player Classic. It's made to look like the good, light and fast Media Player 6.4 but it includes support for all the new codecs (including an automatic search from the web if you feed it a video with uninstalled codec) and has a ton of nice features. The updates come rather regularly.

    I don't know about this new mplayer on Windows, but the 0.9 at least was very slow on my computer. On FreeBSD it works fine.

    1. Re:Windows users: Media Player Classic by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, this is the best media player I've found for Windows so far. A key feature in my opinion is its built-in SVCD support. Also, the built-in subtitle support isn't too bad either. It has replaced the following media players for me:

      - PowerDVD (I don't need any real powerful features to watch SVCD's which I'm sure MPC might still lack)
      - Windows Media Player
      - QuickTime
      - RealPlayer

      All in a sub-Megabyte package.

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    2. Re:Windows users: Media Player Classic by Brendan+Byrd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What the fuck does this have to do with anything? Mod this down!

  12. Re:first post by Daengbo · · Score: 3, Funny

    This amazes me. I hadn't tried either of these for a year or more. Last week my girlfriend and I were surfing porn, and because she's so ignorant about these thing, she wanted to download some movies. They were WMPs, and I told her we probably couldn't play them, but that I'd try anyway. I tried mplayer first, because slashdot is always raving about it, and it handled the WMPs, so we went surfing for everything we could find -- I must've had six or more formats downloaded by the time we finished. I was amazed by mplayer, and Goy took me upstairs to practice what we had seen. Surfing porn makes her so horny
    Anyway, two days later, I decided to let Goy look at the files again. I was in the lab, and it has only xterms with no xv extension, so I tried all the movies with xine. It's a little painful with a 10Mb/s network card, but they all worked, just as mplayer did. Goy pulled my pants down and started on me right there.

    God Bless Mplayer and Xine!
    True story, not inflammatory rhetoric

  13. hungary really has some bright folks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    if you consider, that hungary is a very little country, with as little as 10 million inhabitants. guess how many of em are technocrats and freaks.

    then remember that it used to be behind the iron curtain and under communistic influence.

    and still, hungary gave the world quite a lot of bright and intelligent people and famous folks who changed the world we live in today....

  14. Windows players... by xybe · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you want to see some windows-users' jaws drop, wait until one of them complains he cannot see some movie or the subtitles and show them one of the jukebox-on-a-CD linux distributions based on mplayer.

    They boot, they play. No installing, no fuzz.

    They can play anything mplayer 9x Can.

  15. Other recent releases: Totem, GNOME 2 media player by Plug · · Score: 5, Informative

    You know the simultaneous best and worst thing about GNU/Linux/OSS etc is there is always another option...

    There was a new beta of Totem released yesterday too - it's a GNOME 2 media player based on Xine (it doesn't attempt to reinvent the wheel). The author is also working on a Gstreamer back end for it.

    Why do I like it? A quote on their webpage sums it up: "Totem is the only media player I've seen that doesn't attempt to have skins or look like a reject from a 1971 Kenwood catalog." For those of us who like Windows Media Player (pre 8) for its clean and consistent interface and were annoying that Linux doesn't have anything like it, Totem's your project.

    Mplayer does some files better than Totem, but if you want to do more than "mplayer This.divx", check it out.

    (standard "I have nothing to do with this project other than thinking it's really cool" disclaimer)

    Throwaway Question that will Undoubtedly Get Dozens of Answers while the Rest of the Post Goes Unread: Why doesn't Mplayer disable XScreensaver while playing?)

  16. Oh the humanity... by asb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How many hours did you waste while you wrote yet another skinned user interface? How many hours did you waste with Gimp while you made all those nifty default skins? How many hours of everyone elses time do you waste when people despreately install new skins in order to find the one that is even remotely usable?

    GUI widget sets are there to make it easy for programmers and designers to make user interfaces that are consistent and easy to learn. By implementing your very own eye candy skin framework you undermine all the hard work made by all those smart people.

    This is not a troll. Go read a book or two about user interface design.

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    1. Re:Oh the humanity... by azzy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I spent about 2-3 hours making a skin for mplayer that I find to be perfect for my needs. I wish I could use it for windows media player (when I'm on windows) but I can't. Thank god for mplayer skins! It lets me customise mplayer to be how /I/ want it. Isn't that the point?
      I don't know anyone else who uses or likes it,and frankly I'm not much bothered, but I did make it available here as I thought sharing it was the least I could do.

    2. Re:Oh the humanity... by Azghoul · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "waste" is a pretty harsh way of looking at someone getting some practice using GIMP, isn't it? Call it, "practicing graphic arts skills" or something and it doesn't sound so bad.

      Maybe an interface for YOU doesn't make sense as an interface for ME. The nice thing about skins is YOU don't have to use MINE.

    3. Re:Oh the humanity... by E-prospero · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Its not that you shouldn't have a choice. It's that the choice isn't worth having in the first place.

      MPlayer uses Yet Another Widget Toolkit, custom built for MPlayer, and used by exactly 1 application - mplayer. There is no reuse of this toolkit between other applications.

      I might be able to accept this lack of reuse if there was a genuine reason for it - if mplayer had some unique UI requirements - but can you name one single feature that Mplayer's widget toolkit provides that isn't available in the GTK+/Gnome widget toolkit, or could be added to that toolkit with minimal effort, adding a feature that could be used by other developers?

      GTK+ is themeable - if you want all your buttons to look like they are covered in yak vomit - you can do that.

      If you use Glade right, you can customize the layout of your user interface, reorganising the layout of your control buttons.

      GTK+ provides every manner of widget, control, and display, and can be easily extended to provide additional controls and displays.

      So - all the mplayer team has succeeded in doing is spending a whole lot of effort duplicating features that are available elsewhere. Then they have to support this code - find and fix bugs, answer questions about how to write extensions/themes, document the whole thing...

      And before you say "Oh, but you could make a GTK+ theme for Mplayer" - yes, I could. But that would mean YET MORE development effort, and a constant struggle to make not just the look, but the FEEL consistent with the rest of my desktop. This means that not only do buttons look right (including being the right size and shape), but they behave the same way to mouse clicks, keyboard shortcuts, mouseovers. Emulation of this kind of behaviour is VERY rarely done well. A lot easier to just use the right tool to begin with.

      Although the comparison I give here is GTK+/Gnome centric, but I believe similar facilities exist in KDE as well.

      Yes - every developer has the right to choose their own toolkit, and choose to implement their own if they wish. It just seems that every single multimedia application developer (mplayer, xine, xmms...) seems to think that they know how to make widget toolkits better than everybody else... particularly ironic given that they seem to suck at building them so badly. I can't think of a single "themeable UI" application that doesn't have major usability issues that frustrate the jeebies out of me every time I'm forced to use it.

      Russ %-)

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  17. Windows already has an all in one media player by jkeyes · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is called Media Player Classic. It's hosted on sourceforge and is open source! It also conviently doesn't include Quicktime or Real codec's but a quick search on google for Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative gives you those codecs! It can play everything provided you have the proper codec installed including DVDs so everyone on windows enjoy. Appropriate links follow below:

    Media Player Classic

    Real Alternative

    Quicktime Alternative

  18. Any advance on VLC? by nicky_d · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For OS X, I spent an age trying to get various codecs working in Quicktime to view variously encoded episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm which probably won't be aired in the UK before 2005. The recent Mac DivX codecs solved a lot of these, but I didn't like the fact that they came in an installer package - I try to stick to drag-installs on the Mac so I know what's where. Then I gave VLC (http://www.videolan.org/) a try, and in OS X at least, it works like a charm. I haven't found anything it won't run yet, it plays DVDs without any region checking (provided your firmware is fixed), and it handles VCDs to boot. It really does do everything I need it to in a proper one-app drag install, and it's GPL. Definitly worth a look for Apple users - which isn't to say Mplayer isn't worthy, too.

  19. Mplayer in Windows by Dr.Karnage · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've downloaded a couple of monts ago a windows binary of mplayer. It didn't played any divx I threw at it... It just kept "saying your machine is too slow to play this file". I agree with jkeyes and Zarhan: the best way to watch movies in Windows is through the mighty Media Payer Classic.

  20. Re:first post by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Keep your Xine....

    Mplayer is built right. A command line player and a GUI that is seperate.

    That way mplayer can be used as a part of a larger project... freevo ring a bell?

    It blows my mind how many projects for linux are rendered useless for many uses simply because the programmers think that the GUI MUST be a part of the app...

    It doesn't and makes your program less useful.

    mplayer is the best player out for linux. Until you can seperate the gui out of Xine easily at compile time... Xine cant even compete....

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  21. Re:Yup, this will excite windows lusers by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, mplayer does fuck all. The codecs - if you install them, which presupposes that you know what a codec is - do as much as you can do with Windows Media Player.

    Is there really so much confusion over this issue? Joe Windows is a cretin. He doesn't use the auto update feature built in to the OS. What chance has he got of figuring out that the reason he can't watch BangBus #42 is because he needs to download RalphVideo 3.21 and BobsAudio 0.0.3.2.1?

    Once again we're confusing two issues. I use and like mplayer, and I'm glad to see a new version. But there's nothing here for Joe Windows, and I'm calling bullshit on the article body.

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  22. Legal issues by lina_inverse · · Score: 5, Funny

    In all fairness, calling it MPlayer probably wasn't the greatest idea. They might as well have called it "Real Quick MPlayer", just to annoy everyone else.

  23. Re:1.0? by beezly · · Score: 3, Informative

    GCC Segfaulted? Can you say "that's most-likely a GCC or hardware problem"?

  24. Re:Other recent releases: Totem, GNOME 2 media pla by Crayon+Kid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Mplayer does some files better than Totem, but if you want to do more than "mplayer This.divx", check it out.

    Ah, but you forget about MPlayer G2, which will be stripped of all front-end nonsense and instead implement all kinds of hooks that will allow people to built however vast frontends for it.

    Why doesn't Mplayer disable XScreensaver while playing?)

    For the same reason it doesn't disable, I don't know, PINE or Mozilla. XScreensaver is just an application that happens to be running at the same time, not a standard in power saving. MPlayer does, however, disable DPMS monitor power saving which is what you should be using if you really want power saving instead of fancy pictures showed when nobody's looking anyway.

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  25. Re:Yup, this will excite windows lusers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Perhaps it's worth mentioning that Windows Media Player does not download divx? Perhaps it's also worth mentioning that "Joe Windows" somehow always manages to get hold of the divx codec anyway?

    All the codecs are available for download off the mplayer site, along with the program itself. There's no problem here.

  26. Re:Other recent releases: Totem, GNOME 2 media pla by Domini · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And how do I use it then if I have a media machine with an IR mouse? For a home entertainment system this will not work.

    (See MoviX^2 for the functionality that I require...)

  27. Why so much attrition against Windoze users? by MBMarduk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I sense a LOT of 1337ist attitudes (grudges?) against the idea of using Mplayer on Win32.
    Why? What's with that?
    What ever happened to the ideal of free software for everyone INCLUDING convincing the unwashed Windoze masses of the superiority of FOSS?

    1. Re:Why so much attrition against Windoze users? by Eric+Ass+Raymond · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Because if all the cool OSS stuff runs on Windows, there'll be nothing to convince people to use Linux.

      Ah, so you want to force people into running Linux by depriving them of actually working open source software? What do you care what operating system people run? Mind your own business.

      And if you're so bent on having people move from Windows to Linux, why don't you concentrate on making Linux as easy to use and as comfortable as Windows is these days and the public adopt it - even without any dubious "in order to use our software, you'll have to use our operating system" bundling.

  28. Great news by Gwala · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Mplayer software is absolutely brilliant, when running using the VESA driver (under bash), I managed to get my old Cel 500mhz laptop to play Dual-pass XVid at 30fps, without a problem. Plus the steady and all-in-one approach to drivers is a solution to the horrible driver mess that forms on any windows machine.

    -Gwala

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    1. Re:Great news by Dr.Karnage · · Score: 2, Informative

      Driver mess in Windows? Use ffdshow (http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net). Even if you want to use the latest DivX or XviD to watch your movies, you can tell ffdshow to let the codecs play them. In conjunction with Media Player Classic, it's perfect for any Windows machine.

  29. Re:first post by Telex4 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm confused... help me out here.

    I installed xine-lib, and gxine, and kmplayer. I haven't installed xine-ui.

    I have Xine installed.... without the Xine gui.

    I have two different frontends to Xine.

    So why do you say:
    Until you can seperate the gui out of Xine easily at compile time... Xine cant even compete....

    And how do you get moderated up for it?
    By the way, I prefer mplayer :)

  30. Site still operational? by WernerStormcrow · · Score: 2, Funny
    The top headline of slashdot features a mighty new version of a popular Open Source project and I can still download it at 500 kB/s???

    HELLO!!! I thought this was slashdot!

    ...wait a sec, what am I complaining about?

  31. Re:first post by Jonner · · Score: 3, Funny

    You had to think about it for a second? Just what kind of raving KDE/OSX/Windoze/IceWM/Enlightenment/GNUStep fanatic are you?

  32. Replace your Real and Quicktime Codecs. by Cabeiroi · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you go to:

    http://www.freecodecs.com/

    you'll find a few programs called Real Alternative and Quicktime Alternative. It has everything you need to replace your Real and Quicktime codecs plus it comes with a fairly recent version of Media Player Classic.

    I tried it out and found that it worked and seeked better than RealPlayer.

  33. mingw port rules! by Comsn · · Score: 2, Informative

    anyone that wants to see the greatness of mplayer on windows, check out http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-bet a/ and grab the mingw32-dev-CVS-... package. you can even add the realplayer and quicktime codecs from the download page and have real/quicktime working without having to install the horrible realplayer/quicktime players.

  34. Encoding (mencoder) by dusty123 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While mplayer is an excellent piece of software for decoding video, mencoder (Encoding software) has a lot of bugs and limitations.

    Simple things, like concatenating 2 .mpg-Files fail, rebuilding indices also fail from time to time.

    Hopefully also the encoding part (also the documentation including examples) will improve.

    1. Re:Encoding (mencoder) by pantherace · · Score: 2, Informative
      Have you filed bug reports (on the index)? catting 2 mpegs is not supported officially, but it sometimes works, if and only if all the setttings are the same in both. (not to mention that atm I would not suggest using mplayers mpeg output container as opposed to avi output container (the default).)

      They can't fix what they can't see.

    2. Re:Encoding (mencoder) by dnaumov · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've only recently (a few weeks ago) got into DVD-ripping under *NIX (using FreeBSD) and I found mencoder to be the most intuitive cli tool to use. Just thinking about trying to remember all cli switches to transcode makes my head hurt.

      Mencoder with libavcodec/ffmpeg provide good quality video encoding at decent speed. I am using the following -lavcopts to archieve the best results:

      "vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:v4mv:trell:precmp=258:cmp=258:su bcmp=258:vmax_b_frames=1"

      Make sure you pick a good video bitrate and rip the audio at good quality. Personally, I suggest 192 kbps CBR MP3 to prevent any kind of compatibility issues.

  35. Re:first post by _tom451_ · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's another good KDE/QT player: Kaffeine http://members.chello.at/kaffeine/ is a Xine based player

  36. Re:first post by fault0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You can also try kmplayer, which is included with kde's extragear packages.

    I personally like kplayer the best.. I think they are adding xine to that too.

  37. Read the man/info by Mathness · · Score: 2, Informative

    MPlayer have a bunch of good and useful "hidden" (as in you have not yet read the man/info page) features, my favorit is -dumpstream to grab video files and trailers of the net. :)

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  38. And for the mandrakes among us by Rumagent · · Score: 3, Informative
    You should grab the package from LinuxTLE. If you are on RH8.0, it should drop in without a problem.

    And for the many users of Mandrake, MPlayer with the proper codecs (and many other good programs) are available as rpms at PLF
  39. Re:Other recent releases: Totem, GNOME 2 media pla by 13Echo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unless you require a scrollbar to navigate a movie, MPlayer generally works well when you associate it with Nautilus. I double-click on a thumbnail for a movie (generated by Gnome-Thumbnail-Factory) and MPlayer launches with the movie. I run it without the GUI though, so I merely use the arrow keys to navigate the movie, SPACE to pause, Q to quit.

    It's true though, that MPlayer's GUI is sucky. I wish that they'd just use a standard GTK based deal, and not some rediculous XMMS/Winamp sort of skin, which by the way also drastically increases the CPU load when playing video files. I've thought of writing a better GUI for MPlayer, but I just don't know enough about GTK programming. Lumiere is a great project, but I've not been able to get it to compile because it is beta code (and is for some reason heavily dependant on specific system configurations and file locations).

  40. Re:Other recent releases: Totem, GNOME 2 media pla by evilviper · · Score: 3, Insightful

    MPlayer is fully functional without any GUI. So what's wrong with using it without a GUI then?

    I think people are determined to use MPlayer (and everything else) from a GUI, just because that's what they've been used-to in the Windows and Mac world... NOT because there is any legitimate reason to do so.

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  41. Re:Other recent releases: Totem, GNOME 2 media pla by GiMP · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Explain that to my mother, or my grandmother. Trust me, they need big graphical buttons.. my mother doesn't even know which buttons are play and stop on her VCR unless there are words to describe them.

  42. Xine by Hellboy0101 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Xine already does these things for Linux. Uninstall your old version of xine, then go to http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/ and get the latest build. Plays QT6 files, divx, WMP, DVDs, etc. Also works much better for Freevo if you're into that. RPMs only here (wish the source would be out to manually compile, but oh well). Works on RH9, Mandrake 9.1, and SuSe.

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  43. Re:Encoding (mencoder) try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    concatenating mpegs is trivial.

    1. cat 1.mpeg 2.mpeg > big.mpeg
    2. mencoder -idx big.mpeg -ovc copy -oac copy -o mybignice.mpeg

    There, that wasn't too hard was it.

    For .avi files, use avimerge:

    avimerge -i 1.avi 2.avi -o big.avi

  44. Interface... by singularity · · Score: 3, Informative

    I would love to be able to use MPlayer on my OS X box. The interface, however, is one of the worst example of bad design I think I have ever seen. The program truly has to be seen on OS X to see how bad it is.

    Opening a movie opens the movie in another running program. The controls, on the other hand, are still in the original mplayer application.

    Menus are empty and unusable in the movie's application.

    There are other problems, these are just the major ones.

    Until Mplayer fixes some very serious UI issues in the OS X version, my money (figuratively) is with VLC. VLC also does one required thing - plays movies in full screen on one screen, while allowing me to work on another application on another screen. Mplayer takes over all monitors when in full-screen.

    In order to be accepted across the board, GPL software needs to remember UI. Maybe Mplayer is better on other platforms. It still has a long way to go under OS X.

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    1. Re:Interface... by global_diffusion · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Try using Mplayer from just the command line. It's a lot simpler that way and you never have to mess with the mouse. It sounds annoying, but it's actually much better than the traditional menu/button setup. Having switched from linux to macos x (sweet, sweet powerbooks), not being able to run movies off the command-line (and not being able to watch half my movies) has been one of my big complaints.

  45. MPlayer first impression / review by Experiment+626 · · Score: 2, Informative
    I had never used MPlayer before, but got bored over the weekend and decided to check it out. Since we have an MPlayer topic, I'll provide a little review for others thinking of doing the same.

    I did the install from the RPM's on the MPlayer site instead of doing my own build, they have lots of dependencies, some apparently circular, so installing everything from one rpm command seems to work best. The one library that I didn't already have on my system and wasn't in the RPM's was libfaad, which I quickly found with a little Googling.

    The only other setup I had to do to get MPlayer working was that it expects the DVD drive to be /dev/dvd by default, so I made a symlink for that. MPlayer also lets you set the DVD drive via the settings menu or a command line switch, so this is not a big deal

    The DVD I watched was Disney's "Beauty and the Beast". Yes, I know, evil company. Playing title 1, chapter 1 only showed a Walt Disney logo then playback stopped. I tried various other titles until finally discovering Title 17 was the movie itself. I didn't figure out how to bring up the main DVD menu, which would have hopefully made figuring out where on the disc the movie was trivial.

    Playback was initially jerky and poor. Toggling a couple of the playback / frame dropping options fixed this and playback became flawless on my system.

    I did experience some cryptic error messages and a couple crashes (application crashes, not lockups) so I would characterize MPlayer as very usable but not completely stable.

    As far as user interface, it was good, and similar in layout to Windows Media Player and such. My main complain about the GUI was that many of the buttons are labelled only with a symbol, and hovering the mouse pointer over them did not bring up any kind of help bubble to explain them, so using the GUI involved more trial and error than it should have.

    The other feature I tried out was MP3 playback. It sounded good, but when I associated MP3's in Nautilis with MPlayer and clicked on a second MP3 while the first was playing, it didn't switch songs or enqueue, but rather started up a second instance of MPlayer playing a different song at the same time, which sounded terrible. I'm sure there's a way to fix this (if nothing else, a shell script wrapper would work), but compared to WinAmp doing things right from the start, it still came as a disappointment.

    I haven't tried the other features out (skins, encoding, etc.) but all in all, I was impressed with what I have seen so far. For people looking to play DVD's and other types of media under Linux, MPlayer is well worth downloading.

    1. Re:MPlayer first impression / review by Arandir · · Score: 2, Informative

      For people looking to play DVD's and other types of media under Linux, MPlayer is well worth downloading.

      It also works flawlessly under FreeBSD. I finally figured out the problem with Quicktime playback, and now I have one less reason to boot into Windows. With kmplayer, it's also a native plugin to Konqueror.

      The FreeBSD guys are going to be showing it off at TechTV today.

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