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Cracking GSM

RobertM writes "Professor Eli Biham, one of the worlds most famous crypto analysts, together with two of his students presented an interesting paper on flaws in GSM at the IACR Crypto conference. The GSM association is not happy. Read more on theReg." There's also a Reuters article about the situation.

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  1. Risky? by Zone-MR · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder how long it will be till they attempt to use the DMCA to silence him - this is after all a typical scenario for the DMCA to be exploited in order to gag scientists and cryptology experts.

    Sadly, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see this end up on chillingeffects in the near future.

    1. Re:Risky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      the guy is in Isreal, and this is not DMCA at all. He didnt break any sort of copy-protection scheme. He broke the algorithm itself without needing the keys.

      it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to say that GSM is a copy protection device.

    2. Re:Risky? by epsalon · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nathan, Elad, and Eli Biham are not US citizens as far as I know...

    3. Re:Risky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What the other posters missed by flaming you because the gentleman is not from the US is that (a) neither was Mr. Skylarov; and (b) this Crypto conference, like the conference at which Mr. Skylarov presented, was held in the United States. So Zone-MR, you make a good point ... unlike the flamers.

    4. Re:Risky? by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 4, Informative

      They are all infact at the Technion, Israel's high Tech-engineering school in Haifa. The DMCA is a US law, which applies to people in the USA. It has absolutly no effect on people outside the USA.

      Now in theory if they travel to the USA they could have a problem, and many Israelis do travel to the USA for one reason or another, but I don't think the US goverment will arrest an Israeli professor for publishing a paper.

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    5. Re:Risky? by tomstdenis · · Score: 3, Informative

      Um they already presented their work. I was there I should know. In fact their attack is hardly "news" I was chatting with certain people at the conference and they already knew the details of the attack way before the presentation took place.

      Santa Barbara is an awesome btw! I can't wait for CRYPTO'04

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    6. Re:Risky? by guile · · Score: 3, Funny

      the guy is in Isreal

      This remembers me an old quote:
      God is Real, unless declared Integer

    7. Re:Risky? by gpinzone · · Score: 2, Informative

      TDMA, which is used in the GSM standard, does represent the majority of US cellular networks. CDMA is used primarily by Verizon. AT&T, T-mobile, Cingular, etc. don't use CDMA.

    8. Re:Risky? by ExtraT · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Please, don't blabber about things you know nothing about. Any ship that enters a warzone does so at it's own risk - and the people on board USS Libery knew that very well, that's why they were relatively calm about the whole thing.
      If you willingly enter a place where bullets fly - don't be surprised when one of them hits you.

      BTW, to preclude any responses, this applies to that bitch Rachael Corrie too.

  2. And in other news... by will_die · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The US CIA, UK M5 and Israel Mossad are now hiring people with experience with GSM and crypto experience.

  3. Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I always thought a funny and interesting practical application of cracking GSM, or pretending to be a mobile phone mast through other means would be to ring everyone's mobile up in the area at the same time and have them all talk to each other. That would be excellent!

    1. Re:Excellent! by HTD · · Score: 2, Interesting

      i see a practical application for this - use the cracked signal when being in a cinema/theater/you_name_it _before_ the movie/show/whatever starts - all lamers that have turned on their ring-tone will turn their phones off before the show starts. Why you ask? Because during advertisements/entry the light is still on, the signal makes all phones ring and then everybody annoyed by the sound can easily spot the lamer(s) and tell them to shut it off, or kick him when it rings again during the show ;)

  4. This is news? by dphoenix · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't see how this is news, I've known about this for months, I heard them talking about it on their GSM pho- uh, nevermind.

  5. Related topic: GSM Forensics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The International Journal of Digital Evidencehas a current article about GSM forensics.

  6. A patented crack? by henrygb · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Reuters is saying "the method is being patented and will be used only by law enforcement agencies, he said".

    1. Does DCMA and its cousins allow such methods to be patented?

    2. Will the phreakers care about patents?

    1. Re:A patented crack? by morcheeba · · Score: 4, Insightful

      3. Will any government respect the patents, or will they take the opportunity to bolster their own national security?

    2. Re:A patented crack? by Kombat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Governments don't need to crack the signal. They can already listen in on the unencrypted conversation at the base station, or even central office. Vendors of cell equipment are required by law to provide these back doors to government and law enforcement. If they didn't, then they simply couldn't sell their equipment. I know - I used to work in the cell phone billing division of Nortel.

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    3. Re:A patented crack? by HiThere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The government can't force the phone company to let them eavesdrop without a warrant, but if they just asked, how often would they be allowed? Would there be any records? If not, then there would be no way to tell.

      But I'm sure that the government personnel will always follow the written proceedures, just like everyone else.

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  7. that is a road by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    the UK M5 is a road. perhaps you mean MI5?

    1. Re:that is a road by troc · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have always suspected the M5 of being "more" than just a road. All those caravans must be up to something, the way they all travel in swarms to the same places at the same times. I firmly think the bad driving, weird lane usage, flat caps and children are all either a secret language or simply designed to throw us off the scent.

      Or maybe I need to take my pills.

      Troc :)

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  8. Stunning Coincedence by dontod · · Score: 2, Insightful

    that just as the mobile phone companies are desperate to move people on to the next generation of mobile technology, it is revealed that an older technology is flawed.

    Amazing.

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  9. Patent protection? by nuggz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Illegal interception of calls will be prevented by patenting the technology?

    I'm sure that a criminal really cares about patent infringements.

    Laws should not be used to shore up broken technology. This only impedes law abiding citizens, and does nothing to improve the protection against crime.

    This one arguement against gun control, make them illegal and only criminals will have guns.
    Make this illegal and only criminals will listen to your phone call.

    1. Re:Patent protection? by nuggz · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd guess (without any stats) that more people are killed by legal guns than illegal guns.

      You would be guessing wrong at least in Canada.
      Guns that end up killing people tend to be stolen, illegally stored, or owned by people who shouldn't have a gun.

      Few deaths result from responsible gun owners.

      Myself I don't have a gun, I think most city dwellers need a gun like they need their SUV.

    2. Re:Patent protection? by Zan+Zu+from+Eridu · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Laws should not be used to shore up broken technology. This only impedes law abiding citizens, and does nothing to improve the protection against crime.

      Brilliant example of a popular (but fundamental) misconception. Law never protects from crime, law defines what constitutes a crime. If there would be no laws, there would be no crimes. Every law only imepedes the people abiding it.

      This one arguement against gun control, make them illegal and only criminals will have guns.

      I hopefully have demonstrated that statements like this are tautologies and as such don't carry any meaning. You can use any conceivable law in this argument; if you take it serious you have to reject every law thinkable.

      Simply put: "Make X illegal and only crimiminals have/do X." is only restating what the nature of law is: it is the law that makes X a crime. If you think it is a valid argument against law X, you must reject laws A..Z on the same basis.

    3. Re:Patent protection? by Urkki · · Score: 2, Informative
      • You think that intercepting radio waves broadcast through my house and body is a criminal act? That seems a bit far fetched.

      Intercepting or receiving radio waves isn't illegal of course. Same as you are not breaking any law if you hear when your neighbours shout to each others over you property (hell, if they bother you with it, you can probably get them for disturbing your peace). Even descrambling probably isn't illegal, unless there's a specific law against that. But listening to certainly is. That's about same as using sensitive directional microphone from your house and listening what is said at your neighbour's house. Surely you don't think that's legal too, just because the sound waves travel through you and your property, and if you want to have a private conversation you should be in some special room or avoid sounds by using pen and paper...?

      It's the same principle as with post. If you get somebody elses mail by mistake, you are not allowed to open it even if it came through your mailbox and lies on your floor in your house on your land.

      I mean, if you want to get technical, then every telephone wire is actually a radio antenna. With sensitive enough equipment you can listen to what it transmits, just as with correct equipment you can (according to the article) mess with GSM. So what did you say about landlines being secure?

      A civilized society has to protect privacy of it's citizens, both from the government and from other citizens. That's just common sense to me.

      And you say "far fetched"... Hmm, tell me, are you by any chance an American...?

      • Simple fact is, there are technical ways to setup secure communications - and people who think broadcast can be secure from eavesdropping are crazy.

      Yes, but that doesn't make eavesdropping legal.

      "Simple fact is, there are technical ways to travel safely - and people who think walking on street is safe from getting killed are crazy."

      That's true too, but it doesn't mean that intentionally driving over somebody walking on a street should be legal...
  10. Hey! I know these people! by epsalon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Elad, Nathan, Eli Biham and Orr Dunkelman (which was not listed for some reason) are friends of mine at the Technion Israeli Institute of Technology. Their previous attack on A5/1 required a few hundred GB of HD space and dedicated telephony equipment to pull. A5/2 is a peace of cake in comparison. This new attack makes it ciphertext only. That means that you don't have to initiate a short call (for example) to the evesdropee or knowing some part of the call (like with voicemail) before breaking the encryption. It uses the signal correction mechanism to initialize itself.

    In general, this is no big news, because this equipment is hard to aquire and the benefits are not that great. In comparison, CDMA and TDMA don't (effectively) encrypt calls at all.

  11. Figures by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Last time I told a software manufacturer about security flaws they were like, oh we don't care - our users are too dumb to work it out. Uh huh, but what about the competition? I'm sure their opinion would change had I released an exploit for it.

    Similarly, the GSM Association probably knew about it, it's probably a designed-in backdoor to allow governmental evesdropping, but now it's public knowledge they're unhappy. Notice they say "very difficult" to exploit - not impossible. They know what's up, and they should've done better.

    Well boo hoo GSM. If you've got flaws, fix them - don't go whining when someone finds you out and talks about it. No software is perfect, and trying to pretend otherwise (incl. with DMCA court action) is just a revised addition of The Emporers Clothes.

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  12. GSM ... and CDMA? by bigjocker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have been looking for a good source on the security of CDMA (2000 - 1X, but also CDMA). I have found the basic stuff using google, but is difficult to find real info given that almost all the google results are for press releases or biz-talk from the technology providers (qualcomm, ericsson, motorola, etc) and all of them state "great security".

    The question is can somebody deploy a off-the-shelf (or homebuilt) scanner and grab the conversations on-the-air? I know that a PR (pseudo random) number is used with the ESN and A-key to generate some keys for encrypting some of the communications, and that the voice channel is "scrambled", but is there a source where the security implications of this is discussed?

    Also interesting is that this article appeared (or was going to) on yesterday's slashdot edition but after being available for subscribers for a while it dissapeared.

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    1. Re:GSM ... and CDMA? by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 4, Informative

      "The question is can somebody deploy a off-the-shelf (or homebuilt) scanner and grab the conversations on-the-air? I know that a PR (pseudo random) number is used with the ESN and A-key to generate some keys for encrypting some of the communications, and that the voice channel is "scrambled", but is there a source where the security implications of this is discussed?"

      In theory, anything is possible.

      Off-the-shelf scanner - Definately not. Unless you're talking about high-end five-figure and even six-figure sums. A Rohde and Schwartz FSIQ would probably be 90% of the hardware needed to crack a CDMA signal, but FSIQs run $75k used ($120k or so new). An Agilent E4406A VSA starts at $32000 and cdmaOne and CDMA2000 options are extra $$$. And these might not even be sufficient for realtime monitoring and demodulation. It would be possible to build custom equipment for much less, but only a M.S. or Ph. D. in EE would be able to design a system to do adequate realtime demodulation of CDMA.

      Non-realtime (capture the signals and post-process them) - Much easier. The hardware is $1000-2000 off-the-shelf (see GNU Radio), and the software is $99 if you're a student (Matlab), although you'll still need thorough knowledge of CDMA and some communications systems background to write the demodulation algorithms.

      I don't know about the datastream-level encryption, but CDMA is much tougher to demodulate than the TDMA scheme used by GSM. (Given a captured baseband signal, I could probably tweak my old ECE 467 projects to demodulate GSM down to its datastreamin not too long, while CDMA would be a LOT harder.

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    2. Re:GSM ... and CDMA? by mercuryresearch · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're not thinking like a hacker would on this.

      Think about it -- all the hardware you need to demodulate and decode a CDMA signal in realtime is present in a CDMA phone, so it's only a matter of understanding/controlling the hardware and figuring out how to capture the right spreading code and any other keys in use.

      Given that, the hardware is probably close to free once you've figured out how to control a phone or download new software to it.

  13. Goverment can evesdrop anyway by epsalon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The encryption is only between the handset and the base station. The goverment can easily evesdrop at the cellular provider (after issuing a warrant).

  14. the new 3G ad campaign by Alien+Being · · Score: 5, Funny

    "they can hear you now."

    "they can hear you now."

  15. 3G phones safe by e4liberty · · Score: 3, Informative

    From theReg...

    Both parties agree that the issue does not affect 3G phones, which use different protocols and security mechanisms than legacy GSM handsets.

  16. Old hat! by Noryungi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hmmm. If I remember well, other Israeli crypto researchers, including Pr Shamir (of RSA fame, Rivest - Shamir - Adelman) mentioned a couple of years ago that GSM crypto could, theoretically, be cracked almost in real time by a (relatively) low-powered machine.

    GSM specialists have known for a number of years now that GSM crypto was not that good. Interestingly enough, GSM crypto was designed by French 'military specialists', which has raised the usual (probably justified) suspicions of backdoors.

    Sorry for not being able to produce more info, but I am sure other Slashdotters will have interesting links to supply...

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  17. Instant Cryptanalysis by IRandom · · Score: 5, Informative

    The novelety of this attack is that it is instantanous. The cryptanalysis is done one when the call is being established (when the phone just rings) even before any any real conversation is being done.
    The exact details are still secret but the attack exploits a misuse of Error Correcting Codes (ECC - are used in communication protocols to correct random noise errors).
    It seems that instead of encrypting the conversation and then employing ECC, the GSM does it the other way thus leaking enough data for the cryptanalysis to be performed

  18. Mod parent up by InterruptDescriptorT · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not only does the US fund the weaponry that allows the illegal incursions into Palestinean soveriegn terrority (in the name of "the war against terrorism"), it allows the Israeli people to have one of the highest standards of living in the Middle East while families in Palestine starve and worry about food, clean water and medical care.

    And Americans cry and wail and wonder why (and I actually heard this coming from some Midwestern mother of three after some recent attacks in the Middle East) why do they hate us so much? They must hate our freedoms .

    Yeah, that's it. They hate our freedom. Look how we continue to support a regime that enslaves and subjugates the Arab people of the MIddle East for the US's own oil thirst. No wonder this is the stupidest country on the planet.

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  19. In unrelated news ... by Lumpish+Scholar · · Score: 3, Funny
    The GSM Association ... confirmed the security hole but said it would be expensive and complicated to exploit....
    In unrelated news, the National Security Agency requested an emergency budget increase of $13.5B. When ask for justification, the head of the NSA was heard to say, "Warrants? We don't need no stinkin' warrents...."
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  20. Design flaw or Feature? by sigxcpu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It has long been suspected that GSM encryption was specificaly designed with some 'weak spot' to allow law-enforcemant monitoring.
    Does anyone know if the article is available online?
    I'd like to know if this flaw looks more like a mistake or somthing more intentional.
    None of the meadia people who spoke about it seem to understand that "Instant Ciphertext-Only Cryptanalysis" means you are effectivly not protected at all.

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  21. Reuters article more balanced by winkydink · · Score: 4, Informative

    At least they point out that the equipment required costs about $250k.

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  22. The people behind this by epsalon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Prof. Eli Biham and Elad Barkan. Both good friends of mine.

  23. inflate, then encrypt by valentyn · · Score: 2, Informative

    From http://israelemb.org/sanfran/News&Media/full/03/se p/02#c

    "Elad found that the GSM network does not work in proper order: First, it inflates the information passing through it in order to correct for interference and noise and only then encrypts it," Biham told The Jerusalem Post. "At first, I didn't believe it. We checked it, and it was true."

    That probably means higher predictability for the encrypted data.

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  24. REMOB anyone? *GOV CAN TAP YOU* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    REMOB anyone?

    REMOB (Remote observation mode) is a TSPS console feature of the american telephone system to allow inward ops to monitor a suspected phone that might be "off the hook" prior to interrupting the line for "life or dire emergency" with the 500Hz tone and issuance of the frequently heard phrase "This is the att operator do you wish to disconnect this call you have an emergecy phone call from ...."

    but PRIOR to that for 30 second maximum bursts you get to hear an inverterted sound wave... which you can record.

    better... the fbi has is setup to cascade overlapping series of REMOB snippets so when one ends (on any CLASS capable ESS r5) another takes over.

    This way no interrupt chirp is heard by the victims, and lots of trivially "scrambled' speech can be secretly recorded.

    i have never ever ever seen this in print or any edoc in history of phreaking.

    I have seen telephon reps state to congree that REMOB did not exist.

    it exists.

    it does not take outside intercepts (ECHELON) as reported on 60 Minutes, or any NRO or NSA budgets,

    it only takes a 6 digit code and the correct connections to do REMOB.

    REMOB makes intercepting cell phones laughable in comparison.

    besides... the German Gov records ALL cell phones under that alleged statement that in theory it COULD intercept the airwaves anyways if they tried. Remeber the slashdot article?

    also the us gov allows no-warrant affixing of GPS locater emmitter bugs under your car frame under the assumption that it could visually track you from their air if they had the money anyways. Remember the Scott peterson case this summer? No initial warrant to put the gps bug on his car.

    recording and intercepting ALL cell phone traffic at the point of origin on the LAND LINES is what the fed gov assumes is their right!

    no need to mess with intercepts.

    July 1983 the us supreme court ruled the public had a right to intercept and use all radio trasmissions INCLUDING call phones. Then they pverturned it partly years later.

    today it is LEGAL for the cops to buy and sell equipment to record cell phones, but not the public across state borders. you have to build it from scratch yourself for your own hobbyist needs... and then its legal to use.

    but REMOB is far far more humorous.

    I know it exists.... first hand

    1. Re:REMOB anyone? *GOV CAN TAP YOU* by DarthTaco · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...get to hear an inverterted sound wave...

      ...and lots of trivially "scrambled' speech can be secretly recorded...


      If you invert a sound wave, it basically sounds the same. Try it on your computer.

  25. Wishful thinking by Omni-Cognate · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the Reg article:

    Both parties agree that the issue does not affect 3G phones, which use different protocols and security mechanisms than legacy GSM handsets.

    I don't have the sales figures to hand, but I don't think GSM can really be called a "legacy" technology yet. IIRC Britain only has one provider 3G service provider, which has had a fraction of the expected number of subscribers.

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  26. no privacy on mobile phones by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In the bad old days of analog mobile phones, there wasn't even encryption on the signal. You could literally walk into Radio Shack and walk out carrying a scanner capable of receiving mobile phone frequencies. (They eventually banned the sale of scanners capable of receiving those frequencies.) Later, TDMA and CDMA technologies made it more difficult to intercept signals, but all that's required is the right decoder.

    Encryption of the call is a fairly recent trend and I think it's a terrific idea, but any encryption can be broken in time. While the odds are low that someone may be listing in, guaranteed privacy is impossible.

    I think as a whole, we tend to trust in technology without really understanding it. I'm reminded of two engineering students who were visiting my apartment in college, and showing off their new cell phones by one calling the other. They were quite surprised when I was able to intercept their call with a cheap radio scanner. They had no idea their call was not private, simply assuming that the technology was secure. It wasn't.

  27. The most attended event at the conference. by twoslice · · Score: 2, Funny

    18:00-20:30

    Beach Barbecue
    Bar 18:00-20:30
    Buffet 18:15-20:30
    Dessert/Coffee 19:00-20:30

    I wasn't there but I just know that everyone showed for the beach barbecue with the open bar and grub all night long.

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  28. Uh what? by bigjnsa500 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So if professor publishes this, its all fine and dandy, but when a citizen publishes an eBook hack he's arrested? What gives?

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  29. A Wise Man... by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 3, Interesting
    ...once said to me that he would much rather have criticism than praise, since praise did nothing for him, and made him feel awkward and embarassed.

    Criticism, however, allowed him to improve himself.

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  30. Patented = Published = DCMA Unconstitutional? by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If this cracking method is indeed patented then it must be publicly released for anyone to read and understand. But public release would seem to violate DCMA and stifling the publication would seem to violate the constitutional underpinnings of the patent system (to encourage innovation by both granting monopolies and making inventions publicly accessible for further innovation). Does this make DCMA unconstitutional???

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  31. Re:"The GSM association is not happy." by Jetifi · · Score: 3, Informative
    Did they have their design checked out by someone who understands cryptography?

    A: No.

    The hash function (A3/A8) used in the default implementation of the GSM protocol for the challenge-response authentication had a vulnerability of a type known about in the cryptographic community for years.

    This wasn't a deliberate weakening, because this flaw had no real impact on the ability of law enforcement to intercept, and allowed cloning of GSM handsets: something that was definitely not supposed to be possible.

    They've learnt from their mistakes though: the 3G protocol has undergone extensive public review , as has the ciphers they chose.

  32. Operators couldn't care less by daBass · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Like they didn't arrest a russian programmer? Granted, he was distributing working software. But still, the US lets Israel get away with many, many things they wouldn't let other countries.

    The only other reason I can see for him not being arrested is the fact that GSM is not a US owned technology. That and the fact that operators couldn't care less, it is not like they hold copyright over your conversations...

    1. Re:Operators couldn't care less by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because they would get creamed on the first amedment issues. If you take a first rank Professor at a well known university presenting an academic paper at a respected confrence. Thats about as protected as speach can get. And a univeristy like Technion can hire good laywers.

      A guy that they can protray as a two bit hacker (right or wrong) can be painted in a very different light. But the first amendment types would have a field day if they arrested him. Of course he may decide just not to go the the USA and bypass the whole problem. But if you are going to have a test case in the courts this would be a good one.

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  33. Re:Europeans, mod this up! by perly-king-69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    America is invincible. Other countries will never advance any farther than America wishes them to advance.

    Carthage was invicible until Rome turned up.

    Rome was invincible until the 'barbarians' turned up.

    The Inca were invincible until the Spanish turned up.

    There is a proverb from Belarus - Keep one eye on the past and you are half blind. Forget the past altogether and you are totally blind.

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  34. Re:What is the difference between MI5 and MI6 anyw by Zocalo · · Score: 3, Informative
    MI5 is the old name for what is now officially the "Security Service" and is concerned with domestic security, although it does operate oversees. MI6 is the old name for what is now officially the "Secret Intelligence Service" and is concerned with foreign intelligence affairs, it supposedly has zero domestic mandate. There are also GCHQ (Government Communications Headquarters), JIC (Joint Intelligence Committee) and several other things under the auspices of Special Branch and the like.

    For USians, the roles equate as follows:

    MI5 = FBI

    MI6 = CIA

    GCHQ = NSA

    JIC = Senate Oversight Committee (*very* roughly)

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  35. CDMA harder but not intended as encryption by tessaiga · · Score: 2, Informative

    CDMA is indeed tougher to demodulate than GSM, the reason being that each GSM signal uses the same carrier (basically it encodes bits by modulating phase; the technical term is Gaussian Minimum Shift Keying, or GMSK). CDMA, on the other hand, has each user use a different "spreading code" in an attempt to make signals from different users orthogonal. The purpose of the spreading code is to take your nice orderly stream of bits, and turn it into a random-looking sequence. At the other end, the receiver knows what sequence you're using, and it can undo this transformation. As a side effect, your code is chosen to try to be orthogonal to other people's codes, so that at the same time demodulating your signal nulls out other people's signals, so your interference is reduced.

    The reason there's some security in this process is that if a 3rd party doesn't know your spreading code, they won't be able to demodulate your signal -- you're going to sound like so much noise to their receiver, even if they have the proper CDMA decoding hardware. Having said that, this "encryption" supposedly isn't difficult to crack; Phil Karn from Qualcomm posted a discussion on CDMA security to a crypto list about this a while back. Here's a snippet:

    There is essentially no "encryption" in the usual sense of the word in CDMA. It is true that the complexity (and until recently, the obscurity) of the modulation method provides some modest protection against casual eavesdropping (e.g., someone with a Radio Shack scanner). But phones containing the necessary ASICs are now being shipped by the hundreds of thousands per month, and as I said earlier the complete air interface spec has been public for some time.

    I remember hearing a lecture on CDMA where the professor described a favorite tactic of hackers being to hang out with scanners over bridges, where people's connections would cut out, and grab their codes when the phones tried to resync with the base stations as cars exited the tunnel.

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  36. Bruce Schneier's comments on GSM security by frozenray · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Schneier commented on GSM security in a 1999 CryptoGram newsletter, referencing research from 1998 and 1999. Quoting from it:

    What's most interesting about these algorithms is how robustly lousy they are. Both voice-encryption algorithms are flawed, but not obviously. The attacks on both A5/1 and A5/2 make use of subtle structures of the algorithm, and result in the ability to decrypt voice traffic in real time on average computer equipment. At the same time, the output of the A8 algorithm that provides key material for A5/1 and A5/2 has been artificially weakened by setting ten key bits to zero. And also, the COMP128 algorithm that provides the keying material that is eventually weakened and fed into the weakened algorithms is, itself, weak.

    And remember, this encryption only encrypts the over-the-air portion of the transmission. Any legal access required by law enforcement is unaffected; they can always get a warrant and listen at the base station. The only reason to weaken this system is for *illegal* access. Only wiretaps lacking a court authorization need over-the-air intercepts.
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  37. GSM has been Toast for years by billstewart · · Score: 3, Insightful
    There's some nice summary on gsmsecurity.com, but Ian Goldberg did one of the early critical cracks and revealed that 10 of the authentication key bits were set to zeros. GSM has a set of algorithm for the call authentication, and a set of algorithms called A5/1 and A5/2 for the voice encryption. A5/1 was the "stronger" algorithm used in "superior" countries, and A5/2 was the weaker version for "inferior" countries. It turns out that A5/1 is pretty weak, and A5/2 is far weaker, and the fact that Ian could cryptanalyze the system over lunch indicates that it wasn't designed by competent cryptographers.

    The initial work didn't totally blow the system open and make on-the-air cracks easy, but it showed that the system was incompetently designed as well as deliberately weakened further, and was yet another reminder that Closed System Design is even worse in cryptography than in software. Subsequent work by people like Biham and Wagner keeps making it worse, and of course computer equipment keeps getting cheaper and larger, which means that attacks that need "hundreds of GB of disk" cost you $200 at Fry's rather than $200000 at the NSA Spook Equipment Shoppe.

    In the US, GSM is still a security improvement, weak as it is, because the government bullied the digital cell phone system developers into using even weaker and more broken algorithms (back when they could pretend they were worried about Commie Spies rather than trying to facilitate illegal wiretapping.) (And of course analog cell phones didn't have crypto at all.) But even then, many of the cell phone companies don't bother turning on the crypto - Nokia phones give you a nice friendly indication that they tried to use it and got rejected.

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  38. Adjust your tinfoil hat, guy. by rjh · · Score: 4, Informative

    At great risk of sounding like the Voice of Reason (and God knows how Slashdotters hate that!), could you please present some evidence to back up your assertion that the United States and United Kingdom are colluding to break the laws of both nations?

    Look up the Federal laws: if it is illegal for a Federal agency to do $foo, then it is also illegal for a Federal agency to have a third party do $foo on their behalf.

    If I break into a home and see a kilo of cocaine lying around, I can then go to the DEA and tell them. They can use my testimony to get a warrant to search the home and impound the drugs. Why? Because I didn't commit the crime on their behalf; I came in entirely of my own accord; there was no understanding between the DEA and myself that "if I see any drugs, I'm going to bring them to your attention".

    But if the DEA asks me to break into a home, they'd better damn well have a warrant, otherwise they're breaking all manner of Federal laws.

    So what you're positing is there is a tacit understanding between the US and UK that each will spy on the other's citizens and share with each other the fruits of those actions. Hmm. This sounds mind-bogglingly stupid.

    Why?

    Free hint: this is a Federal crime.

    Free hint number two: the FBI and NSA do not get along.

    Free hint number three: the FBI is the one with the charter to spy on American citizens--not the NSA.

    Free hint number four: the FBI protects its jurisdictional turf very zealously.

    Free hint number five: the FBI is one of the nation's intelligence agencies, co-equal with the CIA and NSA. The FBI has no charter to collect intelligence from foreign sources; the CIA and NSA have no charter to collect intelligence from domestic sources.

    Free hint number six: if the NSA were to really be involved in this, the FBI would be doing a full-court-press investigation into the matter. (a), because it's a clear and massive violation of Federal law, and more importantly, (b) THE FBI DOES NOT SHARE ITS JURISDICTIONAL TURF.

    Period.

    So if you have any hard facts proving this tacit agreement, I'd love to hear it. If you have hard facts about it, then I'll talk to my FBI friends tomorrow and tell them about it.

    I guarantee you they'll be pissed off.

    1. Re:Adjust your tinfoil hat, guy. by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 2, Informative

      The "Voice of Reason" often sounds suspiciously like the "Voice of Naive Optimism".

      Look up the Federal laws: if it is illegal for a Federal agency to do $foo, then it is also illegal for a Federal agency to have a third party do $foo on their behalf.

      Yes, it sounds simple and logical. But there's many examples of the US government breaking straightforward prohibitions. Just look at how many times EO 12333.2 was violated in the past 2 administrations! (And the medals considered for doing so...)

      Regarding the Feds hiring something to perform acts which are illegal for them, this most commonly occurs with the recruitment of "bounty hunters". Bounty Hunters are licensed by the government to aid in law enforcement, but they're not bound by the 4th or 5th amendments of the Bill of Rights.

      They don't need a warrant, they don't need to Mirandize you or allow a call to a lawyer, they can just go with the flow. They can commit B&E, kidnapping, assault, and murder. As long as they're acting in a good-faith belief that you're the perpetrator, a bounty-hunter can treat you as he likes.

    2. Re:Adjust your tinfoil hat, guy. by glesga_kiss · · Score: 2, Informative
      Jeez, you are either a very good troll, or a bit slow today.

      First, the existance of the UKUSA pack is shown in section 5.4.2 of the EU report, with documented references. So, there is no doubt that there is an agreement, above and beyond the normal relationship between nation states intelligence communities. The following, lifted from section 5.1 summarises these "clues":

      The trail of clues which constitutes evidence of this kind is made up of three elements:
      • evidence that the foreign intelligence services in the UKUSA states intercept private and business communications;
      • evidence that interception stations operated by the UKUSA states are to be found in the parts of the world where they would be needed in the light of the technical requirements of the civilian satellite communication system;
      • evidence that there is a closer than usual association between the intelligence services of these states. For the purposes of proving the existence of such an association, it is irrelevant whether this extends to the acceptance from partners of applications for the interception of messages which are then forwarded to them in the form of unevaluated raw material. This question is only relevant when investigating the hierarchies within such an interception association.

      Also check out section 10.7, where many known examples of industrial espionage are listed. Most aren't directly related to Echelon however, but some are and in many cases the source of the data/wiretap is unknown. Take a look at the report. Do it now. Or stopping asking for proof when I am clearly showing it to you. Even a glance through the table of contents would have highlighted these fundamental points.

      Using an elite hidden network for industrial spying is clearly against the law in both countries. Now, as I said, it is illegal for each nation to spy on it's own civilians. So, are you suggesting to me that (e.g.) the UK has no interest in intercepted communications of (e.g.) terrorist activities in Britain. And if the USA was to analyse the data and spot a risk to the UK, are you suggesting that the info isn't passed between the agencies? Given todays climate, that's pretty damn obvious that it's happening.

      The EU report has the following, taken from the conclusion:

      The US intelligence services do not merely gather general economic intelligence, but also intercept communications between firms, particularly where contracts are being awarded, and they justify this on the grounds of combating attempted bribery.

      But that's makes it legal, OK? We may actually be splitting hairs here. This is what makes me think you are trolling. See, I never actually said they are breaking laws. The agreement is all about getting around the laws. They are violating the spirit of the law, but not the laws themselves. That's kinda the point of what I said!

      Things are a bit different nowadays. Before it was widely acknowledged that this level of spying were possible, those in on it were free to give data to their business allegencies as they saw fit. However, in this age of scandal and improved awareness, I'm certain that the industrial espionage of Echelon is seriously curtailed, or at the very least limited to only a few groups. The risk of a major scandal could destroy important trading links between entire continents, and neither side what's to see that happen.

  39. GSM crypto was always suspected to be weak by dido · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From what I remember, the design of the GSM A5 cipher was always suspected to be weak. From Applied Cryptography:

    A lot of strange politics surrounds [A5]. Originally it was thought that GSM's cryptography would prohibit export of the phones to some countries. Now some officials are discussing whether A5 might harm export sales, implying that it is so weak as to be an embarrasment. Rumor has it that the various NATO intelligence agencies had a catfight in the mid-1980's over whether GSM encryption should be strong or weak. The Germans wanted strong cryptography, as they were sitting near the Soviet Union. The other countries overruled them, and A5 is a French design. [emphasis mine]

    Bruce Schneier then goes on to say that "There is a trivial attack requiring 240 encryptions." 240 is only some 1 trillion, definitely in reach using today's computers.

    Yeah, the NSA has already been doing it, you can be sure of that, and further rumors about GSM crypto that I've been hearing say that the NSA applied pressure on the French as well to insert deliberate weaknesses. Maybe Biham & Co. just managed to find out some of the NSA's "easter eggs".

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  40. Counterpane by usmcpanzer · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bruce Schneier mentioned how weak the GSM algorithm was back in this Dec 99 issue of Crypto-Gram. Its lousy encrpytion and is secret, non-peer reviewed.