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Film Distribution Comes To The Internet

Dooferlad writes "thisisnotalovesong.com hosts something of a first - a film that is being distributed over the Internet because independent films are being pushed out of the box office by blockbusters. At a time when everything on seems to be a sequel it would be nice to have something original on the silver screen, but unless you live near the 5 cinemas in the UK where this is been shown you will have to do with your own small screen. The film is being distributed in Windows Media format, either streamed or for download. The code you pay for (2 to 3 UK pounds) allows you to watch as many times as you like. The catch for most of you reading is that it is only for people in the UK. More coverage is available from the BBC."

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  1. Finally... by angst7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now Mel Gibson will have a method of distributing The Passion.

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  2. Tommorrow's /. Headline: by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Film Distributed by Internet comes to Kazaa
    Posted by michael on Saturday September 06, @10:48AM
    from the it's-just-a-matter-of-time dept.

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  3. This is not... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... a site worth worrying about slashdotting.

    It has zero content on the front page. It starts with a useless flash animated menu. When we bring the server to its knees, you will see this:

    -o

    which is the world's smallest online fiddle playing "My Heart Bleeds For You."

  4. Interesting idea by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Interesting
    And I hope it succeeds. I also hope they can sell DVDs, which ought to be one of the easier alternatives and makes the film available to a much wider audience than limiting it people with fast PCs and broadband connections does.

    As I understand it, it doesn't cost much more to get DVDs mass duplicated these days than CDs, and DVD-Rs are now $3 if you're forced to resort to such things.

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    1. Re:Interesting idea by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 5, Interesting

      DVD-Rs are not the same thing as a pressed DVD. And while a DVD-R, to burn, would be $3, in order to get a DVD pressed (which is the only acceptable commercial solution - burned products are not products at all) the cost per DVD is lower BUT there's a certain amount of money up front that you have to pay for a run. I don't know what the average minimum run is but it is substantial. Furthermore, DVDs need to be shipped and that introduces more cost to the consumer in which that cost in not going to the creator of the intellectual property. I would much rather have indie films stick to download only and have all my money (at a lower price as well) go to the crew. Also, as this becomes a more popular way to view movies - those without broadband will see the benefit of having broadband. The more people who want broadband, the lower the price becomes and the more broadband is laid.

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  5. DRM Laden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful


    with no Linux or Mac alternatives

    If this is the future of film distribution where MS leads (and to hell with the EU antitrust violations
    ) then ill stick with stealing movies from hollywood in DVDRip.DIVX format

    and congrats for buying the marketing for this flick, film distribution has been on the Internet for at least 4 years (IFILM etc)

  6. Lisa, Miss Hoover, movies. by pheared · · Score: 4, Funny

    Indie Film Maker: Uhh, Industry? I don't think I can play your game. I think it's wrong.
    Industry: Okay Indie Film Maker, I respect your moral objection.
    [Presses the "Independent Thought Alarm" button under her desk.]

  7. Get reel/real! by z-kungfu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They need to ditribute this in multiple formats if they want a chance in hell of making this work. It seems that the same people that go to see indy movies are the same people using linux and Mac. So they need to make it available to us.

  8. Windows only? by VEGx · · Score: 4, Funny

    For a sec I was excited, then went numb... If it's Window$ only, it can die as far as I'm concerned.

  9. UK & Windows Only by PhoenixK7 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's UK and Windows only, and it isn't the first independent film to be released on the internet. See here. Took only a few seconds of googling to find it.

  10. I just got some broadband by kacp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...and I'd love to put it to some use. I'd pay and download this, even if it's something I don't fully like. I figure supporting this distobution would be the best way to show the industry that it would actually work. ...too bad I'm in the States. There other legal distobutions centers for indie movies out there online?

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  11. not quote... by Savatte · · Score: 4, Insightful

    independent films are being pushed out of the box office by blockbusters

    Close, but true independent films are being pushed out of the way to make room for independent (low budget) films aiming to be blockbusters. It's not that art houses are going to be showing Bad Boys II or Freddy vs Jason, but that they would rather show My Big Fat Greek Wedding and Bend It Like Beckham over Gerry and The Secret Lives Of Dentists.

  12. It's cheaper to buy a DVD (even if I lived in UK) by dcordeiro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You see, even if it is only 3or 4 euros/dollars for the "token", you have to pay for the download time/bytes.

    So, for some that have 56K/ISDN or a broadband connection with traffic limit (my isp makes me pay 50euros month for 2G and 2euros plus for every 100M), it's always cheaper to buy the damn thing.
    Same applies to download/buy linux distributions.

    But hey... you can always download it at work :P

  13. Careful now! by Talia+Starhawke · · Score: 4, Funny

    Screen those downloads so you don't end up getting a renamed copy of Gigli.

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  14. So what is the movie about? by the_pooh_experience · · Score: 3, Informative
    According to the movie's website
    This is not Badlands.
    This is not The Blair Witch Project.
    This is not Deliverance.
    THIS IS NOT A LOVE SONG.

    A film by Bille Eltringham

    Synopsis
    Spike and Heaton are the unlikeliest pair: two loners who have found each other. Taciturn, competent, unreadable, Heaton is someone we are instinctively afraid of. In contrast, his side-kick Spike is manic, child-like, unstoppable: someone we are instinctively afraid for. But when Spike commits a terrible crime, Heaton decides to stand by him - an act of astonishing, almost foolhardy loyalty. There begins a chase across a vast Northern landscape of moors, rivers and dark woods, the increasingly exhausted fugitives being hunted not by the police but by a posse of farmers intent on revenge. As exhaustion and hunger take hold, Heaton injures his leg and the roles are reversed. Suddenly Heaton needs Spike's loyalty. But as the farmers close in, Spike is forced to decide whether to stand by his wounded friend or run for the safety of the city. No ordinary chase film, This is not a Love Song is a love story trapped inside the body of a thriller.

    With a fervent desire to break the increasingly uncreative strictures of traditional film making, every stage of This is not a Love Song was approached afresh. Cast before it was written, workshopped with the actors and filmed in only two weeks on a tiny budget, the film champions DV not as film's cheap cousin but as a format with its own unique beauty.

    A Footprint Films production in association with Strange Dog in association with The Film Council (UK) & Longfellow Productions (UK)

    Crew
    Directed by Bille Eltringham
    Produced by Mark Blaney
    Written by Simon Beaufoy
    Executive Producers Kate Ogborn, Simon Beaufoy, Paul Trijbits
    Director of Photography Robbie Ryan
    Designer Jon Henson
    Production Manager Helen Walker
    Editor Ewa J. Lind
    Casting Director Victoria Beattie
    Sound Recordist Rupert Ivey
    Original Music Adrian Johnston
    Sound Editor Graham Headicar

    Cast
    Spike - Michael Colgan
    Heaton - Kenny Glenaan
    Bellamy - David Bradley

    Filmed on location over 12 days, July 2001, near Aberfoyle & Glasgow, Scotland.

    Festivals to date include:
    Rotterdam, Edinburgh, London, Hoff, American Film Institute, Dinard, Belfast...
  15. Re:only available for windows... by maharg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I believe xine and mplayer (to name but two) can play WMV ?

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  16. Transmission Films has done this for a while by PktLoss · · Score: 3, Informative

    Transmission Films Is an online independent films distributor that has been around for around a year, with a decent film library.

  17. trailer by Hard_Code · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did anybody understand the trailer? I for one was not left with any idea of what the movie was about. Some guys in a car screaming. Some people get thrown into a barn. Somebody shoots a shotgun. Somebody pushes a boulder. Techno music throughout. What the hell is this about, why would I want to watch it, and what does it have to do (or not to do) with a love song?? I'm not really impressed by the i'm-more-clever-and-hip-than-you trailers that don't give any indication of wtf a movie is about. Especially if they are trying to gain a following in an alternative distribution channel.

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  18. Re:They want to be underdogs by Dicky · · Score: 3, Insightful
    An internet debut announced around the world, yet only available to those living on the island.

    Um... I've seen this advertised/discussed in exactly 3 places now: the BBC (yes, the British Broadcasting Corporation), the GLLUG mailing list (that's the Greater London LUG) and here. Of them, I would only consider the BBC one to be an 'official' announcement and they are a British corporation, aiming at a British audience, paid for by the British tax-payer.

    The amount of content on this site which is only available or in any way relevent to residents of the US is phenomenal. And that's largely okay, since this is effectively a US site. But you and others who are complaining that this is only available in the UK are only seeing a small example of what we see all the time.

    In a more practical sense, I can think of at least three major reasons for the limitation:

    • Another US/UK inbalance thing - we pay for bandwidth both ways because we have to pay for the privilege of talking to you guys. Streaming a movie could get really expensive really fast.
    • This is an experiment - they are hoping to generate enough noise and support from this to get a US distribution deal.
    • Um... forgot the third one. Argh. There was something to go in here. Really.
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  19. But But But.... by magoolsu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This might be a stupid question, but isn't the quality of the movie going to be pretty crappy? Even on a good internet connection it still takes a long time to download decent quality movies. Why not wait and get the movie on dvd for the same price and a much better qaulity movie.

    I could see so many ways this could go bad.

    I love my wife!

  20. Crouching Tiger is "Indy?" by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" was no "indy" film. The film studio that made the movie was Sony Pictures Classics, one of the largest and best funded film houses in Asia and a part of the same Sony that is a member of the MPAA. A mere glance at the film should tell you that this was a high-budget feature backed by a large company. Just because something's not made by Hollyhood doesn't mean that it's "indy."

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  21. Not Legal in EU by DOsinga · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I very much doubt whether this is legal in the EU. With the internal market directive, you can't really sell something to people from one EU country and not to another (or even charge differently depending on the country).


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  22. quality by razorshine · · Score: 3, Interesting

    hi guys, I have seen the digital film.. the 300mb file is amazing quality - looked great on a full screen 21" monitor. if you want a review of the film there is one on the bbc somewhere

  23. This is not something to be ridiculed by Attaturk · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Hang on a second, this is /. isn't it? I see a fair few responses looking to poke fun at the movie makers but shouldn't this be something we praise? Well let's take a look:

    Pros:
    • An independant movie maker cutting out the MPAA-friendly 'Hollywood scene' altogether.
    • Direct distribution.
    • Low fee for download - about a fifth of the price of a cinema ticket.
    • Different quality levels available and the ability to store the movie and rewatch it.
    • The movie is also available on DVD and in the cinema so the consumer has plenty of options on what they pay for and what they get.
    • Some nice taglines: "This is not Hollywood", "This is not conventional", "This is not the end of cinema" etc.
    • Written by the guy that wrote The Full Monty.
    Cons:
    • "UK-only" online release
    • DRM-tastic you can't watch it on any other PC than the one you downloaded it on. Until you've cracked it naturally. You've effectively paid your money to 'rent' the movie on that machine (in fairness the download fee is about the same as a 2 night DVD/VHS movie rental, which you have to return).
    • M$ Windows only
    • M$ Windows Media Player 9 only
    • Limited availability online - they're taking it offline on Sept 19th (subject to change), which means they've got a two week hype window for a movie that we'd have otherwise never heard of.
    • "This is not the Blair Witch Project" should read "We want to be a flash-in-the-pan Internet phenomenon like the BWP.
    • Biggest cast member seems to be a bit-part from Harry Potter.
    • Flash used as basis for website not as enhancements to it.
    • Franki and Jonny may need to calm down a little and explore some other web technologies. ;-)
    Oh and the director is virtually unknown but has achieved the respect of some of those that have seen his work.

    In short this looks like a truly great idea hijacked by a bunch of overzealous marketing types that now see the Blair Witch symbol as more potent icon than the dollar symbol. As a result it's now just a-n-other overhyped budget movie release.

  24. There's still a catch by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The catch for most of you reading is that it is only for people in the UK.

    The real catch is it's Windows Media Player Format.