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2002 SAGE Salary Survey Finally Released
Ted Cabeen writes "The 2002 Salary Survey run by SAGE, SANS, and Sun's BigAdmin Group profiled in a March Slashdot Article has finally been released. Everybody who participated in the survey is entitled to a copy, as well as current members of those groups. How does your salary stack up in the post-crash economy?"
Can also be downloaded from SANS here.
"Despite economic coldrums, the average of all the salary changes (including the negative ones) for 2002 came across full-time workers worldwide was plus 8.15% when calculated for annulized salaries. Fully 1,810 respondents (24.03%) saw no salary change or reduced their salary. Of the 54.54% who increased their salaries 0-30% the mean increase was 8.88%"
is a good site for work info in Canada, including salary and employment statistics.
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Metro Area || Avg. Salary || %Incr || %Resp
San Francisco/San Jose/Silicon Valley, CA Metro Area 87,238 6.2 11.4
New York Metro Area 85,010 8.3 8.1
Boston, MA, Metro Area 77,211 4.7 6.7
Washington, DC Metro Area 75,614 10.3 12.6
Philadelphia, PA, Metro Area 74,343 5.5 3.6
Dallas,TX Metro Area 73,390 7.4 4.7
Los Angeles/ Orange Co., CA Metro Area 73,285 9.4 7.7
Atlanta, GA Metro Area 70,809 7.0 4.8
Chicago, IL Metro Area 70,448 8.5 7.5
Denver, CO Metro Area 69,493 5.1 4.6
London, England Metro Area 69,486 6.5 1.3
Seattle/Redmond,WA Metro Areas 69,082 7.6 5.6
San Diego, CA Metro Area 68,969 11.0 3.5
Houston,TX Metro Area 68,194 7.7 2.7
Research Triangle, NC Metro Area 67,261 6.8 2.5
Austin,TX Metro Area 65,606 9.3 2.6
Ottawa, ON Metro Area 52,520 4.0 2.2
Toronto, ON Metro Area 50,506 9.8 2.9
Sydney, Australia Metro Area 50,503 10.6 1.2
Vancouver, BC Metro Area 44,451 6.9 2.2
Montreal, QC Metro Area 43,616 10.9 1.6
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Stupid sexy Flanders.
Just read in Tuesday's Australian Financial Review that Executive salaries were still high (and growing) in the IT sector, comparable to other industry sectors, but the rest of the IT workforce was not enjoying the same percentage increase and ridiculous high salaries.
My guess - worker/consumer/citezen/human happiness is lower in the US...
on the other hand, if 250 mill. people work 2 weeks more than anywere in the world, the country should firmly stay ahead of its competitors... and noone gives a f*ck about worker happiness if the head of non-for-profit organization makes $150mill because of the extra 2 weeks that the shmucks put in...
Just because I don't care, it doesn't mean I don't understand. Homer J. Simpson
I get 12 sick days, 22 vacation days, 2 floating holidays plus 11 regular holidays.
:)
I had 15 personal days plus 9 holidays at my last job (and yes, that -is- part of why i left it).
I'd say that most Americans need to put between 5 and 10 years into a position to get to 4 weeks vacation. That's a far cry from 20+ and never reaching it.
Most Americans don't change jobs nearly as often as us tech geeks, either
Wait, wait, wait...medical care is of *lesser* quality and food is *cheaper*?
Last time I saw a German physician, it took me about twenty minutes from check-in to a prescription for antibiotics. In the 'States with HMOs, I have to force any infections to give a two-month notice, because that's the average wait time with my medical group (not kidding), and I think even the ER is backed up for about a month (kidding, but not by much). I don't know a single German who worked in 'Mericka who was happier with the so-called 'healthcare system' when it was compared to their native Deutschland.
Food was more expensive, but that's because most of it is organically grown, and because German consumers are by-and-large willing to pay fair trade prices for their groceries, unlike most of their brethren in the 'States. Goods are more expensive, especially apartments, but this is mostly balanced by the excellent public transportation (which you mentioned), meaning that you don't need to own a car -- personal vehicles are a luxury item, after all.
Take-home pay should be about 75% of what you would get in the 'States, not half, but like you said -- you do get something for that trade-off (eighteen months[1] unemployment, good healthcare, good transportation, effective police[2], etc.)
[1] Has Schroeder shortened this to twelve yet? I know Labor would be pissed, but it really makes more sense than eighteen.
[2] The police carry submachine guns; H&K MP5Ks, as I recall, and Do Not F*ck Around when it comes to crime. Pot is minor (in reality, although The Letter Of The Law says differently), they don't care about speeding on deserted roads, but if you drive drunk or rape someone, expect to be at the business end of a very angry machine gun.
if you enjoy your job, and the money is competitive: DO NOT LEAVE.
even for more cash.
because you will find that more cash means that people who are making that much dough normally are not biting. big cash is indicative of a bad work atmosphere, high turnover, or terrible products/tools/requirements.
that's why the people who demand the highest prices tend to work contract. because the companies that have to pay that much for the work, you don't want to be with over the long term.
// "Can't clowns and pirates just -try- to get along?"
"I've been thinking about using my right of return privileges (my grandfather was a UK citizen) to go to the UK and work for a few years."
/. recently has done this move from the US to London, and you might find his blog interesting.
Do you have British citizenship yourself? Your eligibility depends upon your father or mother's status. If they were born in the UK, then you probably qualify. If they weren't then they can't pass the right on to you. Check out the Home Office's web site - I think there are two classes of citizenship: otherwise than by descent (their citizenship can inherited by their children); by descent (they inherited citizenship, and they cannot pass it on to their children.) If you get the opportunity, I would take it, especially if you're still young as it gets harder with age and you will regret it later if you don't. Even if you don't like the UK, being a citizen will allow you to live and work anywhere in the EU. That's very appealing to me as my travels and living overseas are one of the best things I've been able to do in my life. Somebody who posted a reply to something I wrote on
As you might guess, I've looked in to this a little. I've been interested in this for my future children and for my Canadian wife. I emmigrated from the UK at 21 and have thought of moving back to find out what it's really like to live there as an adult. Three years of residence will also get my wife a European passport. At that point, I think we'll know enough to decide which side of the Atlantic we're happier on. There are trade-offs and advantages for us in either Canada or the UK, but which suits us the most, I don't know yet.
Sounds like one of the few sectors where pay is actually increasing. State and local gove worksers being cut. Must be nice to work for an organization where you can print money at will.
A more realistic approach for most people would be to:
1) Stop buying items you don't really need.
2) Get out of debt ASAP
3) Live on half your pay and invest the rest. It's easier than it seems once you do 1 and 2.
4) Keep your job until you can live off your investments. If you follow steps 1,2 and 3, it will happen faster than you expect.
Knowing the day is coming soon can help reduce the stress of your current job.
One technique that works well to get the whole family on board for step 1:
3 months after all purchases over some amount (e.g. $50), re-assess the value of the item.
Ask yourself, am I happy with the item or would I rather have my money back?
You'd be surprised how this can adjust your purchasing decisions.
Your anecdote is well received, but you must grant us that you receive more paid leave than the average American. Consider the findings a 2002 Center for Economic Policy Research study:
CEPR Study
Minimum MANDATED (by law) annual paid vacation days:
Austria 30
Denmark 30
Finland 30
France 30
Spain 30
Luxembourg 25
Sweden 25
Germany 24
Belgium 4 (weeks)
Greece 4 (weeks)
Ireland 4 (weeks)
Netherlands 4 (weeks)
United Kingdom 4 (weeks)
Portugal 22
European Union 4 (weeks)
Canada 2 (weeks)
United States 0
Of course, the above are just the minimum legal requirements, in practice, the contrast is even more stark:
AVERAGE Annual Paid Vacation Days and Holidays
(vacation/total vacation+holiday)
Italy 37/45
Finland 37.5/44.5
Netherlands 31/38.1
Germany 30/38
Luxembourg 28/38
Austria 26.5/36
Portugal 22/36
Spain 22/36
Denmark 27/34
France 25/34
Sweden 25/34
United Kingdom 25/34
Switzerland 24.3/33
Belgium 20/31
Greece 22/31
Japan 18/31
Ireland 21/30
Norway 21/28
United States 12/23