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Announcing GNOME 2.4.0 for FreeBSD

Dan writes "FreeBSD's Joe Marcus Clarke says that GNOME 2.4.0 is now available for FreeBSD. Unfortunately, due to timing issues with FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE, it will not make it into the official ports tree until after 4.9 is released (looks like early October right now). In the meantime, you can get to it from his CVS tree. For those without CVS access, he has periodic tarballs made, and are downloadable from the same URL. You should also download the marcusmerge script to aid in merging his ports tree with the official tree. If you already have a copy of the script, download it again because things have changed." Update: 09/18 15:25 GMT by M : FreeBSD's Joe Marcus Clarke says due to popular demand, but more importantly to the fact that 4.9-RELEASE has been pushed back at least two weeks, GNOME 2.40 has been merged into the ports tree.

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  1. Re:FreeBSD? by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, the ones still stuck on FreeBsd.

    Still there's neat things about BSD kernel.

    1: Security levels
    2: Jail
    3: PF - OS detection leading to modification of data stream (MS system lead to Linux ISO site)
    4: Stable, high performance FS
    5: Runs most linux junk (look at sourceforge, most are abandonware). Just doesnt run stuff that depends on proc unless you enable /proc (idiot)
    6: Lot more quotas over users than you have in Linux

    Those few features keep certain users on BSD. I figure Linux might get all those features. Still, if you want a really good system, get AIX. Linux and BSD is a good standby for cutting cost as long as you can deal with the limited feature set.

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  2. FreeBSD! by TitaniumFox · · Score: 4, Funny

    BSD trolls are rendered obsolete.

    Take this! *KAPOW*

    And that! *BOFF*

    Holy schnikes, Batman! The Penguin is getting away!

    Oh, no he's not, Robin! *BLAM*

    [FreeBSD runs quite nicely on my laptop, thanks. ;)]

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    1. Re:FreeBSD! by satanami69 · · Score: 3, Funny

      FreeBSD runs quite nicely on my laptop
      Why do you leave your laptop in your closet?

      Oh, wait, you don't use FreeBSD as a server. I was wondering why the hell Gnome is there.

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    2. Re:FreeBSD! by TitaniumFox · · Score: 1

      Funny! I use both FreeBSD and Debian Linux for servers, actually. I cheer for the success of both the *BSD and Linux camps.

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    3. Re:FreeBSD! by bsd_usr · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't mind testing to see if what you say is true. Send me stuff to copy and paste and I will. ;) It would be really lame to do so though. I, unlike them, have better things to do with my life.

      Although, I do question. Do they troll because they fear that people become the wiser and will finally see the merits BSD software? Do they troll because they can't accept the fact that BSD software is quite good and most likely better than theirs? Or do they troll because they just can't get laid? Probably all of the above.

  3. FreeBSD won't die by Rhinobird · · Score: 5, Funny

    FreeBSD won't die if people keep porting software to it. So, cut it out people

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    1. Re:FreeBSD won't die by zangdesign · · Score: 1

      I bet at least one of your 8th-generation descendants will say that, too.

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  4. pf is (d), All of the above. by TitaniumFox · · Score: 4, Informative

    PF is [Open|Net|Free]BSD. FreeBSD PF news.

    FreeBSD homepage.

    NetBSD PF news.

    NetBSD PF homepage.

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    1. Re:pf is (d), All of the above. by psxndc · · Score: 4, Informative
      PF is purely an OpenBSD project that has been ported to the others. It was written because Darren Reed changed the license of ipf to something Theo (of OpenBSD) didn't agree with. FreeBSD and NetBSD kept using ipf while the OpenBSD crew wrote their own packet filter. Then the other two ported it.

      The Darren/Theo head butting resulted in this classic posting

      psxndc

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    2. Re:pf is (d), All of the above. by psxndc · · Score: 1
      grandparent post said: pf is OPENBSD

      parent post said: PF is [Open|Net|Free]BSD

      And I responded saying, no, pf is OpenBSD, it's just been ported to the others. To be honest, I didn't check the links since I took exception to him "correcting" the grandparent, even if him correcting was saying that pf had been ported. I'm not trying to be a dick, but I felt that he was incorrectly correcting someone.

      psxndc

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    3. Re:pf is (d), All of the above. by twistedcubic · · Score: 4, Informative


      It was written because Darren Reed changed the license of ipf to something Theo (of OpenBSD) didn't agree with.

      Actually it wasn't just Theo, it was OpenBSD that didn't agree with the license, which, in its clarification, did not allow modified versions to be distributed. I use "clarification" because Reed claimed the license didn't change, but that he only allowed peple to use the software, not revise and distribute it.

    4. Re:pf is (d), All of the above. by Ricin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes and that was about BETA software which Mr Reed didnt want to be going into OpenBSD -HEAD. I still find his stance very legit. It wasn't finished, it wasn't all working, yet there it was to be imported into OpenBSD. Mr Reed had a lawyer look at his license and they figured it translated to "may not be distributed" and kept/imposed that. Once again, this was BETA software. The version considered stable had /has full BSD license.

    5. Re:pf is (d), All of the above. by Strog · · Score: 1

      Lots of things have been ported back and forth. I don't say USB is NetBSD just because the other two got it from there originally. They all share things and that is a good thing. Yes, pf is the result of the hard work of the OpenBSD developers. I used OpenBSD and pf to guard my own network but I think it's cool that Net and Free have it now too.

      Now if someone could port it to OS X and Irix. heheh

  5. Porting software by cesarcardoso · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I remember once people on deadly.org praising the fact that GNOME 2.0 (or 2.2? I can't rememeber now) was easily ported to OpenBSD.

    It's great that GNOME is easily and quickly portable beyond Linux and Solaris (where people is pouring money on it) - GNOME hackers are on the way to make a truly industry-standard desktop environment. Go GNOME!

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  6. It wasn't always that way. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When GNOME was Miguel Icaza's baby the code was written in a non-standard and non portable way.

    Amazingly Miguel Icaza is considered a 'great coder', yet couldn't be bothered to write portable code.

    Once Miguel Icaza left the project, the GNOME code started to become portable and the project adopted a motto of 'it don't ship unless it runs on Solaris/FreeBSD and other UNIXes beyond GNU/Linux.'

    The real programmers took over and got the code portable.

  7. Rev: pf is available for (d), All of the above. by TitaniumFox · · Score: 2, Informative

    Er. I think you're being trolled. I hadn't intended to come across as correcting whether pf is part of OpenBSD or not.

    pf is a project of OpenBSD: True.
    pf is now available to the other BSDs: True.
    This is good for *BSD: True.

    Cheers!

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  8. FreeBSD 5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Does freebsd 5 use the same ports tree as the 4.x series?
    Does it support as many ports as 4.x?
    Will GNOME 2.4 be available in the next release of freebsd 5.x?

    1. Re:FreeBSD 5? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yes.

    2. Re:FreeBSD 5? by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 1

      Yes.
      No. There are the odd port that hasn't been updated to work with 5.x.
      Yes.

  9. Re:FreeBSD? (Yep, still here) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hi. Allow me to introduce myself. I'm FreeBSD. A lot of you are saying I'm dead. I assure you that is not the case.

    Dying? Definition 6. from http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=dying reads:

    6. To become indifferent: had died to all worldly concerns.

    Apply this definition to your constant bickering over whether or not I'm dead and I'll agree. :-)

    Over the last twenty something years I've been through a lot. But through it all I've been reliable and dependable.

    Over the next few years I'm going to show you what the terms "scalability," "efficiency," and "security" really mean.

    So shut your pie holes and keep coding. Maybe you'll have a hope in hell of keeping up with me.

    Yours truly,
    FreeBSD

  10. Re:What I know about BSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    1. You can not play games on it.
    There are games for BSD. But if you're serious about games, UNIX is not exactly the best platform choice for games, unless you are using Mac OS X.

    2. It cannot be used by my grandma.
    Why not? If your grandma can not use a mouse, a keyboard, or see, then that would be true.

    3. It lacks a GUI of any note.
    KDE and Gnome are available.

    4. There is no support available for it.
    There is support for it, countless websites, mailing lists, documentation, and there are commercial companies that support it. Also, at the end of the day, it's unix. A large chunk of adminstering Linux/*BSD are the same, so anyone that knows unix could offer help.

    5. It is an assortment of fragmented OSes.
    And Linux isn't fragmented? How many Linux distros are there?? LOTS! Maybe the kernel is the same, but a kernel by itself is not an operating system.

    6. It cannot be run on the x86 platform.
    Free/Net/OpenBSD all run on x86 as their primary platform.

    7. You have to compile everything and know C.
    If you write software, of course you have to compile it...that is the same with any operating system. Pre-compiled packages are available for the *BSDs, as well as ports, which does the work of compiling for you. You DO not need to know C to "use" *any* operating system.

    8. Support for the latest hardware is always poor.
    More than enough hardware works, any half decent well known componets will work fine. There will always be a slight delay with free unix. Hardware companies don't exactly release drivers for free unix or provide documentation all the time, so it may take longer to get a driver together.

    9. It is incompatiable with GNU/Linux.
    Not sure what you mean here, it could mean a few things.

    10.It is dying.
    Visit openbsd.org, netbsd.org, freebsd.org and then apple.com. "Oops"

    You are an oxygen theif.

  11. Re:FreeBSD? by Baki · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No no, the main argument for FreeBSD is its ease of system administration. Just cvsup once in a while, do a make world and mergemaster to merge new /etc & other config files and you're done. This way you can stay current for many years without ever reinstalling, even move your installation from machine to machine.

    For me it is lazyness that keeps me stick with FreeBSD.

  12. Re:I'll never get non-BSD people by Ricin · · Score: 1

    Err, so you propose free beer for dumbasses? You should go into politics.

  13. Re:FreeBSD? (Yep, still here) by Ricin · · Score: 1

    only FreeBSD is 20 years old but well nice writeup anyhow :)

  14. Re:FreeBSD? (Yep, still here) by Ricin · · Score: 1

    I meant "smaller then sign" 20 years old (stupid slashcode), its actually 10-and-a-bit years old.

  15. Re:A troll replies to the critics... by literalguy · · Score: 1

    Here is an idea. Why not post your trolls under your own name. Then, those of us who want to read the BSD forums in peace can add you to our enemies list, and those of us who want to read your rantings can. That way, everyone wins.

  16. To the BSD Troller by literalguy · · Score: 1

    Here is an idea. Why not post your trolls under your own name. Then, those of us who want to read the BSD forums in peace can add you to our enemies list, and those of us who want to read your rantings can. That way, everyone wins.

  17. Does this mean by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    that Gnome is dying?

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