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Final Fantasy X-2 North American Preview

Majestic Mog writes "FiringSquad somehow managed to score an advance copy of the English version of Final Fantasy X-2, the first REAL sequel in the long-running RPG series. They cover changes in the game over the first FFX, the English voice actors, and something about girls wearing short shorts." It looks like they took the best of FFX and combined it with the best of DoA Volleyball. In other words, this might be the perfect video game. I just wish it would come out before december since I just finished KotoR and need a new game.

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  1. Dont like this trend by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    After X comes XI, not X 2.

    You start doing sequels in Final Fantasy, you blow the whole thing. Now you have to worry about continuity and whether it fits in character and whatnot. Blah.

    I liked new, completely independant stories. I like that they could completely revamp the game engine, completely change the concept of "magic spells" and whatnot... Truly produce a brand new game that could be enjoyed on its own.

    I could play FF8 without playing FF7, it didnt make a difference.

    Oh well, as long as the carcass hasnt completely rotted, that horse is going to get beaten.

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    1. Re:Dont like this trend by alexmogil · · Score: 5, Funny
      But this is really test, isn't it? I mean how many people have wanted to have Cloud, Sephiroth, Aerith, Cid, Cid, Squall, Cid, Cid, Cid or Cid in a game again (aside from Kindom Hearts... ick)?

      Well, here's Square's offering to do just that with arguably some of the most popular characters in the franchise. Maybe they'll do this again, maybe they won't, but at least they're giving people the opportunity.

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    2. Re:Dont like this trend by OblvnDrgn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From what I've heard, there was a huge clamor for a sequel to FFX. So they made one. FF XI is still coming out in America.. eventually, and they're working on XII right now. XII is actually a proper FF too, none of this sequel or MMORPG business. It's not really changing anything, it's just making a couple extra games along the way.

    3. Re:Dont like this trend by MunchMunch · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yeah, I agree about FF having sequels. But also, realize that FFX was the most teen-centric, mainstream FF to date. Its obviously the biggest candidate for serialization thanks to that characteristic (thanks, PS2).

      I mean, PS2's dominance of the game market isn't necessarily a bad thing, but earlier FF games were interesting because they didn't railroad you along a story with the same sort of annoying intensity that FFX did. In FF7 you could spend hours (and usually did spend hours) at the Golden Saucer, and work on perfecting the Materia system. In FF8, you could just fly around and kill time, beating up on Cactuar in the desert, and actually playing a FUN card game before going to fight Ultimecia, along with plenty of other diversions like the again new and interesting spell system.

      In FFX, you couldn't even freely fly around the map. The upgrade paths were just that--linear systems where you could make certain choices, but for the most part just followed where you were supposed to go. Blitzball was a joke. The card game was a pathetic afterthought. And the characters were straight out of a rejected Dawson's Creek episode. True, more people played it and more people thought it was so much better than any other FF...but how many of those were around for the earlier FFs?

      I for one am ready to skip FFX-2 and go straight to FFXII which looks more promising...

    4. Re:Dont like this trend by Sheeplet · · Score: 2, Informative

      Uhmm, there's already a FFXI, I've been playing the beta for it for a few months now (and it's probably the best video game I've ever played, btw). FFXI has been out for a year and a half in Japan already (roughly), so what were they supposed to name this one, given it's ties to FFX? Final Fanatasy 10.5, Final Fantasy XII (that's already taken)? Final Fantasy X-2 seems like the logical name to me.

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    5. Re:Dont like this trend by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wow, a sequel! How innovative!

      I have a feeling that this is all they'll ever do, just like everyone else. New ideas can fail, its safer to milk your last success.

      Crystal Chronicles is more intriguing to me than this game, having not been so overwhelmingly impressed with FFX as everyone else. I didn't find it to be so much a game as a choose-your-own-adventure movie.

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    6. Re:Dont like this trend by Infernon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's actually not such a bad idea as long as the story is good...
      I didn't really care for the characters in FFX. They were too cliche, standard, etc. I ended up not finishing the game because of them. IMO, Wakka was the closest thing to an original character, but still lacking.
      Anyway, I guess I was saying that I wouldn't mind seeing sequels of FF installments that rocked.

    7. Re:Dont like this trend by DrEldarion · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, if you want something new, this game DOES have it. True, it has some of the same characters and areas, but from what I read, the gameplay HAS changed. They put in the JOB SYSTEM - probably one of the most universally liked systesm in all of RPGdom.

      Anyways, why do people think FF is some sort of sacred ground that MUST REMAIN THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT.

      I constantly hear people complaining "FFXI SHOULD BE FF:ONLINE, NOT FFXI!". Why does it matter?

      They complain, "FF SHOULDN'T HAVE SEQUELS! IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT". Who cares?

      As long as they're good games, why the hell does it matter whether they're a sequel or an MMORPG? Since when did the FF series become so completely sacred that they're not allowed to do things that they haven't done before?

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    8. Re:Dont like this trend by DrEldarion · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, they are releasing them here.

      The PC version is scheduled for an end of October release, and the PS2 version will be released sometime next year.

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    9. Re:Dont like this trend by Vainglorious+Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      After X comes XI, not X 2. You start doing sequels in Final Fantasy, you blow the whole thing.

      More annoying for me is the "Final" in "Final Fantasy". If a sequel is made to "Final Fantasy", surely that means the first one was "Penultimate Fantasy" ?

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    10. Re:Dont like this trend by minus_273 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      the final in the name final fnatasy is becasue final fantasy (the original) was the final fantasy. around 1987 Square was about to go kaput after a bunch of crappy games on NES and this was their last shot last hope last idea.. their final fantasy. Funny how it turned out to ber one of the greatest games ever made

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  2. X2 SCHMOO by Ty · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    This game is the biggest pile of crap Square has rolled out since their TOM SAWYER game for the Famicom. I picked up the Japanese version and played it for a whole 10 minutes before regretting buying it. It's total fanboy-catering - horrible story, and an abuse of the decent story that 10 had.

    1. Re:X2 SCHMOO by wondafucka · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Decent story....maybe. Pacing: Horrible. Cutscene. Wander. Fight. Wander. Cutscene. Wander. Fight. Cutscene. Wander. Fight. The interactivity is the same as it was a decade ago, but the storylines and cinematography have improved to the point of getting in the way of the game. I had the same feelings about Xenosaga. When you're watching a cutscene and you don't want it to end, it's interrupted by some pointless wandering and fighting. After you wander and fight for awhile the gameplay is interrupted by really long film clips.

      If this were a novel and the author kept switching between different areas of the story, each time making you wish for more, then it would be a truly enjoyable. But instead, it just annoyed me. If you took the gameplay and stripped it of the cutscenes, the game would be played out and boring. If you took just the cutscenes the video would be breathtaking, but confusing and would encompass way too much continuous whining from the characters. Together it's a confused spastic mess. FFX2? Count me out.

      (BTW if you absolutely loved the game, then good, you probably appretiated it in a way that I never can. Go ahead and counter me. I've had movies that I hated until someone pointed out the good points).

  3. Three words: by JayBlalock · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Final Fantasy Fanservice. And was it REALLY necessary to make Rikku look like Christina Aguliera? They already modeled the girls to look like various J-pop idols, but geez... Of course, it's also funny that they're releasing this, when the US hasn't gotten the "updated" FFX with the expanded ending that sets up the sequel.

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    1. Re:Three words: by OblvnDrgn · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, you're right, blatant fanservice. But so ya know, they're shipping the extra cd that came with FFX-International with FFX-2. It had something like another 10 minute movie that adds on to the original storyline by revealing what happened after the ending. It's probably going to be part of the intro of this one.

    2. Re:Three words: by JayBlalock · · Score: 2, Insightful
      True, but it's still odd the way they're handling it. Reportedly the "International" version was an improvement on the original in a number of ways.

      And if you hunt around online it's not that difficult to find a rip of the new ending movie. I saw it shortly after International was released.

      Considering how ludicrously short the original ending was, compared to the time invested in the game, it desperately needs to be reinserted. (but then the ending did have one of the single best tracks Uematsu has composed yet...)

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    3. Re:Three words: by syle · · Score: 4, Informative
      Maybe instead of posting a kneejerk reaction, you could read the reviews of people who have played the US localized version of it. They're almost entirely reviewers who expected to hate it, but ended up being won over.

      An excerpt from the GameSpy review: "Although I was greatly looking forward to Final Fantasy X-2, I held a certain amount of apprehension because of all the changes Square was making to the game. After playing it for a spell, I needn't have worried..."

      Don't like them? How about an IGN review: "Caveats aside, if Final Fantasy X-2 can manage to provide the same action, drama, and depth in its final four chapters that it did in the first, RPG nuts shouldn't have much to worry about come December..."

      Still not good enough? Maybe the Gamespot review: "While we thought Final Fantasy X-2 would end up being viewed as an aberration in the Final Fantasy franchise, we're not so sure anymore."

      Really, calm down. After all, you haven't actually played the game. Are ALL the reviewers wrong?

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    4. Re:Three words: by be-fan · · Score: 2, Funny

      All the reviewers like FFX. So yes, they are *ALL* wrong.

      PS> The IGN reviewer didn't sound like he played the game...

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    5. Re:Three words: by Kneht · · Score: 2, Insightful
      So you're saying you saw Final Fantasy: the Spirits Within?

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  4. Why Not FFVII? by jwbrown77 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's the game that most everyone agrees had the best characters and one of the better story lines.

    My favorite was English III/Japanese VI, but most people loved VII.

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    1. Re:Why Not FFVII? by JayBlalock · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Probably just because it would be impossible to top. I mean, we had a planet bearing down on the world, and a final bad guy so powerful you had to harness the very powers of Gaea to stop him. And then the resolution is SO definitive that you have to skip hundreds of years into the future before anything interesting could possibly happen again.

      There'd just be no way of making a sequel that would come close to living up to the original.

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    2. Re:Why Not FFVII? by gid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Indeed, that was actually the only one I played all the way through, I even started going thru it a second time. Of course, one of the reasons I actually got to play that one is because it was out for the PC as well. Too bad they stopped doing PC ports of their games... I started playing FFVIII for the PC, but all the spells took forever to cast because of the long ass animations, which pretty much killed it for me.

    3. Re:Why Not FFVII? by jellisky · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not quite. Actually, of the PS FFs, I also liked FFVIII the most. FFVII's plot was too cliche for my tastes in many points. FFIX lacked a certain emotional tone during it's middle section that ir ended up being boring. FFVIII's plot and characters are always unfairly portrayed, at least in my eyes, as shallow or predictable. But, I always felt that there was a little more adult tones to the whole storyline. It was refreshing. Squall doesn't "grow" as a person, and people find fault with that, but does every main character have to "grow" for the game to be good?

      The battle system, while eventually degenerate at points, was refreshing in its own way. The limit breaks were lots of fun to play with and added some additional feedback and actual play into the battles. The difficulty of many of the bosses throughout the game were excellently balanced such that most of them were close and enjoyable. The game could be beaten WITHOUT having to spend a lot of time levelling or working through the sidequests (most annoying aspect of FF7, really... the world's on the verge of being destroyed and you're spending your time breeding chocobos!!!). The plot was interesting and had some nice facets... and had some good twists (granted, some of them were expected, but others were a little unexpected).

      Yes, it wasn't perfect, but I would contend as a full game package, it was more enjoyable than either VII or IX. FFIX is still a minor disappointment to me. It's not bad, per se, but just a little underwhelming. VII's late game was ludicrous and annoying... I love VII's early and mid-game... but after the mid-point of Disc 2, it started bothering me just how much extra I had to do to keep up with everything. VIII, even though it's battle system was flawed because it "forced" you to lengthen battles and have more encounters, was just a more enjoyable package than the other two.

      Granted, I'll gladly pick up games in either three at any time... and ChronoCross, too... but I also liked VIII the most of the PS era. (FFVI, though, is still the overall favorite... but that's almost universally true.)

      -Jellisky

  5. Perfection... by Kedisar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In other words, this might be the perfect video game.

    There's NEVER going to be a game that is even near perfect in everybody's eyes. Someone is always going to gripe about it, and I, for one, am not a big FF nut myself... oh dear, a /. reader who doesn't like FF? Can't be true...

    1. Re:Perfection... by pmz · · Score: 3, Funny

      oh dear, a /. reader who doesn't like FF? Can't be true...

      Actually, it's more like a vi vs. emacs discussion:

      "VII is the best!"
      "No! IV is!"
      "The girl in VIII is pretty hot, though!"
      "Only the first one really got it right!"
      "VIII sucks!"
      "VII sucks!"
      "VII rocks!" ...(thud)

  6. Old news by FzBravozF · · Score: 4, Informative

    Gamespot and IGN both have had previews out for the US version of FFX-2 for weeks.

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  7. Disappointed by Infernon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While I don't have anything against skin, it's much better on a REAL chick. I remember when the FF series was all about the story and not so much about short shorts, small shirts-- and that's what this looks like. TNA in games is cool as long is it isn't in your face and part of every scene or character, but I guess that's just one guys' opinion...
    I hope that this isn't the direction that the next FF installment is going in.

  8. Simple by jbellis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    FFX is still fresh in peoples' minds.

    Incidently I'm still not sure why everyone raves about FFVII. Nostalgia seems the best explanation to me -- when it came out I could see it seeming really cool as one of the first 3d RPGs. But, I played it for the first time a few months ago and got maybe 2/3 through before deciding I was wasting my time. It doesn't have anything going for it that would make it a classic, like just for instance the RP in RPG. :P

    The original Baldur's Gate dates from about the same time as FFVII and stands the test of time much better IMO. Yes, I know these are apples and oranges; I'm just pointing out that not every game is as completely obsoleted by better fx as FFVII. (And FFX, lest you FFVII fanboys think I'm singling you out unfairly. :)

  9. Not the first Square sequel period though... by Zergwyn · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Though Square is best know for Final Fantasy, and I will admit a certain special fondness for FF6 in particular as it was the first realy RPG I ever played through and what got me hooked on the genre (for better or worse), they have made a lot of other terrific games as well. In particular, I am thinking of Chrono Trigger, which was one of the last games they came out with on the SNES and also one of the best. That one actually got a sequel, or perhaps a side story at any rate, called Chrono Cross for the Playstation. These games were both interesting, and especially Chrono Trigger at the time, because they did away with the whole 'Random Encounters on World Map' thing that virtually every other RPG I can think of up until that time had. This made it a lot more fun to just explore around, as there wasn't any annoyance or penalty for doing so.

    I personally have mixed feelings about the latest, FFX. It certainly has fantastic graphics, and I have really found myself getting into it at times. I have had a bunch of fun in many pieces, which I guess is the ultimate test for any game. But, I personally find some of the voices somewhat gag inducing or just jarring to the experience at points. I know people complain about too much angst or whatever, but personally I kind of like having my main character be a bit of a bad-ass, someone who at least at first isn't super interested in running out and saving the world, who has emotional conflicts and doesn't have an easy time dealing with it. In FF7, for instance, I liked Cloud's opening attitude, though I may be one of the few if FFX fans are to be believed. And I really _liked_ the first opening city, which is where the game starts right off (not really a spoiler to talk about it, but stop reading if you don't want some suspense taken out of your first 5 minutes of the game). It is really cool looking and well designed, and, well, if I lived in a place like that and it, and all my friends, was blown up, I would be really f@&^!ng pissed. Instead, we get a quick "oh well, it's all good." *Shrug*. Harder to get into the a character (ie, to role-play, to feel and empathize with) who sounds just like a California surfer stereotype, and I certainly found myself rolling my eyes or thinking 'stop being such a whiny loser and get fighting already,' during some of the drawn out dialog. Given these things are on DVDs, would it kill them to include the original japanese sound track as well?

  10. I'm getting too old... or something. by MuckSavage · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I used to spend hours playing FF games. Hours. FF 7 was the reason I bought a playstation. I must have put 200 hours into that game.

    But it seems that the last few FF titles that have been released are just long movies, with little spots in between where you kill shit. You don't really play these games as much as watch them.

    Like I said, maybe I'm getting old, but FF games these days are all glitz and no guts. And why do we need to dress the girl characters up like whoors? Meh.

    1. Re:I'm getting too old... or something. by aliens · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree 100%. I stopped playing X because out of 90minutes of playing I'd actually play for 20-30, if I was lucky.

      The rest of the time I sat and watched. Very boring.

      I kept thinking, ok now I'll get more freedom.

      Why was this such a highly rated game??? To me it was just a FMV game, you're stuck on one track the whole time. ::(

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  11. but? by AchmedHabib · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who wears short shorts?

    Great, if you was not 100% sure the site would get /., just mention "girls,,, short shorts".

  12. Combined it with the best of DOA Volleyball? by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It looks like they took the best of FFX and combined it with the best of DoA Volleyball.

    So this is a Final Fantasy where the characters actually respond to you radically differently depending on how you treat them, instead of doing the same linear dialogue they do every time you play (relationship sim)? It is an easy-going 'chill game', where there is no danger and no real ending? Westerns get the original Japanese dub, complete with very famous voice talent? It will include a kickass trailer for Ninja Gaiden? :P

    DOAXBV didn't invent sex appeal in gaming, and it does have some very good game qualities besides the obvious. :)

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  13. I played 70+ hours to get the special item! by ImNotThatSmart · · Score: 3, Funny

    It was commented that this game is a mix of DOA Volleyball and FFX. In each FF game, there is usually an item or spell that takes the player several hours to obtain. In FFX2, I overheard that the item will be a baby-blue lip gloss applicator.

  14. Re:If a game needs T&A to sell... by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 2, Funny

    I feel the same way about porn.

    Wait...

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  15. Unnecessary & contrived to the point of annoya by cryptochrome · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Am I the only person that wishes games/anime would cut back on the gratuitous fanservice? It makes gamers look bad. OK, it makes gamers look even more pathetic than they already do, especially when the wife/girlfriend/mom comes home. I watch that DOA commercial and I'm like "Dudes, get some lives, this is stupid." Kinda like how I felt every time Liv Tyler showed up in LOTR for her extremely padded scenes - is there a digital effect for "vaseline on the lense" or do they do it the old fashioned way?

    Bouncing computer generated boobs can be titillating for all of about 15 minutes, then you've seen them from every worthwhile angle, and it's just silly. Unnecessary and contrived to the point of annoyance. At the very least, they could produce equivalent games for girls.

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  16. Money/Upsetting the Fans by ChibiTaryn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    FFVII is arguably the most popular of the FF series overall, although FFX has been the most popular recently. And cause it has so many fans, if it was done badly, it would piss a lot of people off, which is one of the reasons the Square-Enix guys stated.

    The other is that FFVII uses what is now very old game data. It is not possible for Square-Enix to create a sequel to FFVII with the old game data; they'd have to start development from scratch. Which is expensive.

    One of the deciding factors in the making of FFX-2 was the fact that they could use game data from FFX to make the game -- so in effect they were just adding some extra features to an existing Final Fantasy, rather than developing a new one from scratch. If it hadn't been possible to make the game "on the cheap" like that, I am not so sure they would've done it...

  17. More than one Final Fantasy??? by lyberth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How can there be more than one Final Fantasy?
    Tell me how, please.
    If the first Final Fantasy was the last and final then there couldnt have been a second, much less a 12th Final Fantasy.
    If the second Final Fantasy is the final one, then the first one would not have been final...

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