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Microsoft Offers A DRM Patch

Transcendent writes "Microsoft Windows Update is offering a download for their 1.0 version of the 'Microsoft Windows Rights Management client,' if you care to download it. Seems that you need Win98 SE and up (or at least that's the minimum 'supported'). Details are here. Although it's not required or a 'critical' update, this just paves the road for all of Microsoft's software to require DRM technology on your computer. Quote from the details page: 'Installing this client allows RM-aware applications to work with Windows Rights Management Services (RMS) to provide licenses for publishing and consuming RM-protected information.' This, dubbed 'Activation', entails that 'your computer will be automatically connected via the Internet ... in order to create and save on your computer a system component that is associated with your hardware.' Hmmm... me no like ..."

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  1. The thin end of the wedge. by caluml · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The thin end of the wedge.
    Remember where you were when the world started to roll over, and let MS tickle its belly.

    But Grandad, didn't you try to fight them?
    No little one, it just seemed harmless at the time...

    1. Re:The thin end of the wedge. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      But then the shining becon of freedom shone through on a land far away. The champoin of freedom in a world which had become a matrix of digital prisons. The ones that stood up to it all without flinching.

      The Chinese...

  2. Roll up, roll up! by leonbrooks · · Score: 5, Funny

    Getcha free chains here! Bondage! Suffering! Leather gear, only the hottest from Microsoft! Trade-ins on unwanted liberty a specialty, test-whip today's amazing offer!

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  3. more pressure to move to Linux and other OSS by -=SteelRat=- · · Score: 5, Interesting

    thnx MS makes my job soo much easier

    Steel

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  4. Rights Managements Services by tato+(and+tato+only) · · Score: 5, Funny

    Something tells me GNU/RMS is not going to like Microsoft's choice of acronyms.

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    1. Re:Rights Managements Services by archen · · Score: 5, Funny

      Something tells me GNU/RMS is not going to like Microsoft's choice of acronyms.

      Is that why he's even adding it to his name now?

  5. RIAA by HermesHuang · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder if Microsoft got any money from the RIAA to do this? I imagine if done properly something like this could actually put a bit damper on illegal music.

  6. How long? by Just+Another+Perl+Ha · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How long before they make a patch like this mandatory? (well, as mandatory as they can make it.... like, bundling it in with a critical security update). Hmmm.... maybe that was their plan all along while they kept releasing all of their hole ridden tripe...

  7. Good timing! by rolux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With everyone and their uncle updating their Windows these days to be safe from the latest viruses and worms, this is definitely a very good moment to push a DRM patch...

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    1. Re:Good timing! by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      With everyone and their uncle updating their Windows these days to be safe from the latest viruses and worms, this is definitely a very good moment to push a DRM patch...

      And will it be included in the auto-update I and others have come to rely on?

      And will it be sandwiched in with 7 other patches, so I don't even see it?

      And will it be an un-doable patch (some are) or not (some are not)?

    2. Re:Good timing! by Hanji · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For now. How long until one or three of those changes?

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  8. Wow.... *sigh* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thanks for providing a link to an MS download on a pro-Linux site... no seriously, nothing like baiting on a slow news day. Were we expecting MS to sidestep digital rghts-management? I think not.

    We'll ignore the fact that on the same day, Gates donated $168 million to fund malaria research, but funnily enough, I doubt we'll see that reported here.

  9. awsome now drm all of your software by codepunk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cool MS now please put DRM into all of your software. When people cannot pirate your software easily I can sell even more linux.

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  10. Office 2003 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is probably the rights management system included in office 2003 which lets you sign and limit future use of your word docs. This is what end users of your protected documents will have to install to read them. In this case, the 'rights' that are managed are the ones YOU grant. No proplemo with that.

    1. Re:Office 2003 by hpa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bullshit.

      This means that it is impossible to build a non-MS piece of software that can read .doc files that your clients will invariably send.

      In other words, Microsoft is using DRM to enforce their monopoly "by name." No need to keep switching incompatible formats, it will be either impossible or illegal (DMCA) to construct a Word clone.

      BIG problem, methinks...

  11. Re:Jeez by jonman_d · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're kidding, right?

    Crippled CDs. Region-encoding.

    Your every-day consumer doesn't give a crap about DRM, crippled software/audio, or anything else, for that matter. Your average consumer doesn't even know about crippled CDs.

    They'll get away with this, because most comsumers are dolts.

  12. They got the versions all wrong by RumbaFlex · · Score: 5, Funny

    Windows 1984 and up is what it was supposed to say...

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  13. Supports Win98? by lseltzer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interesting that it supports Win98SE, since Microsoft itself doesn't support that OS anymore.

  14. Act FAST -- explain situation to your friends by bigberk · · Score: 5, Informative
    We can all help spread awarenes sof what's going. I suggest emailing your friends and getting this simple message across:
    "Digital Rights Management" offers the end user, or consumer no real advantage. They will NOT see more functionality by installing D/RM; in fact they will see less functionality. There is nothing 'broken' with their computer.
    In fact, the scary part might be... not only is their computer not broken, but PCs today might be much more functional than those of 10 years in the future.
  15. Who cares by spideyct · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's an optional install.

    You say "we'll see how long that lasts".

    Ok, so maybe it becomes mandatory and gets installed on my computer. It will enable me to use rights protected files. If I don't want to use any rights protected files, then I won't.

    Winzip has had a password protection feature for its archives for a long time. Doesn't mean I have to use it. But if someone sent me a password protected zip file, along with the password (giving me permission to extract the files), I'd be happy that my version of Winzip supported passwords. It doesn't mean that my archives that are not password protected can no longer be extracted, or that I must password protect everything.

    Sure, Microsoft could lock down Windows Media Player so that RM is required, etc, but then everyone (that cares) would just stop using WMP. You think they're going to lock down the sound & video API's in the OS so that nobody can make their own media players?

  16. Re: Clever. by E_elven · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A 'rights management' patch? My friend (let's call him Joe), who is not entirely untechnical (sophomore CompEng), actually pondered the following when peering over my shoulder: "Probably should upgrade. About time they did something about those damn viruses." He was under the impression that the 'rights' referred to controls he could set. A good name, indeed.

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  17. Re:also know as... by leifm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ummm...this is IRM not DRM. The difference being that IRM is a rights management deal for Office documents, targeted at corporate environments. The download lets you view IRM protected documents without having Office 2003 installed, this isn't DRM, doesn't have anything to do with MPAA/RIAA, and is optional. So stop with the whining.

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  18. Thanks for the input from the DMCA crowd,... by buffoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...but when MS controls 85% of the country's desktops, Ashcroft is pushing for greater intrusion into our private lives, corporations are being pressed to provide any and all information they have on citizens to the DOJ (and are doing so -- viz. JetBlue), and the Supremes simply override the Constitution at whim, I'm afraid it's not time for "ho-hum".

    Unless you're incredibly comfortable with Reich Emergency Protection Act ---- oops, make that the "Patriot" Act ---- it IS the apocalypse, and it's time to wise up and push back.

  19. Re:Get Over Yourself by ThisIsFred · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No. If you don't want the patch, don't download it.

    I think the point is that any newer (media) software written for Windows will eventually tie-in with the RM APIs, so you won't have a choice in the future. It won't be as simple as "don't use it." MS is apparently floating the balloon to see how the users react. Unfortunately, most users lack the forward-thinking ability that supposedly distinguishes them from their simian ancestors (I can't name one person who patched for MS Blaster - until after their PCs were infected) they won't give a hoot until they're being charged $1 every time they listen to an MP3.

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  20. Walking the thin line... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think that everyone needs to remember that this is what DRM is all about. MS has been walking a thin line between established publishers who demand protection of their or their clients copyrighted works on one hand and the consumer who will use whatever product benefits them the most at the lowest price. I don't think that the DRM battlefield is as clear cut good vs. evil as many seem to believe.
    Imagine if you will a future with two drastically different homes. In home A, there is a home computer running a MS OS that is similar to what we have today (before XP) that allows you to play any of your files on any computer in the house and doesn't have any restrictions on the software it uses and or the hardware you attach to it. This computer is linked to the television, stereo, and who knows what else!
    In home B, there is a home computer running a MS OS that is linked to a remote server with administrative rights over all hardware and software additions and checks that all of the software and media on it is payed for and legitimate. This computer may or may not be hooked up to the home entertainment system due to conflicts that may arise with its playing of digital content over other hardware. I could go on, but I think you get the point.
    Home A is a place where consumers are happy and unfettered and these consumers have stayed with MS products due to their ease of use. However, the content distributers are unhappy with this set up.
    Home B is a place where the consumer is not so happy because .mp3's that play on the computer will not play on the stereo and cannot be copied to a portable player. However digital content providers feel comfortable that no residents of this house are using any content that was not properly paid for.
    This is the thin line...
    Can MS satisfy content distributers with out alienating their consumer base? Without consumers of their products the protections are meaningless. Will consumers change over to another product that is less intrusive and controlling if such protections are put into place? Those content distributers have deep pockets and if they are entirely reliant on MS products to protect theirs MS will surely be in a very powerful and potentially never ending money making enterprise.
    So MS right now is feeling the waters out, playing both sides of the coin to see what will give them the best profit model for the future. If DRM pushes people to a competitor then some incentives to stay loyal will certainly come into play. But what if... what if... MS goes the other way? What if by signing an allegiance with the content distributors MS can ensure that the only way to get content is through them and their products? Maybe... but again if the consumers get too pissed about that then new content distributors might just spring up. So you see, we don't necessarily need a revolution. The fact that we have freedom of choice is a very powerful check.

  21. The truth.... by Psx29 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This discussion from microsoft shows where they are planning to go with this. It is going to be part of the Windows 2003 server line. Or you can use microsoft's own service (which uses passport) if you don't want to run your own server. And all of this does tie in to office 2003 as it looks like the first product to take full advantage of it. Talk about vendor lock in....

  22. Re:85% of the country's desktops,... by Technician · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...but when MS controls 85% of the country's desktops

    Big deal. Adobe and MS give away e-book readers. AOL gives away access software. Getting people to buy the paid content will be the trick. AOL is losing share. They gained ground as they were pretty much the first national dialup ISP. Now that they have copmetition, free software isn't keeping them from shrinking. Unfortunately paid access stuff has to compete with already in place free stuff. They do not have the only content without free competition. Many early markets were served by AOL only. DRM does not have this headstart in a world of free content. The pay stuff has to advertise heavly to get people to spend the money.

    If your company requires DRM or you want to play DRM media (not unlike a DVD, DAT, Sony Mini-Disk) you will need a DRM machine. Due to it's limited capibilities, it should be limited to a single use type function much as a DVD player, or cable TV box is now. For the rest of your computing, use a primary general purpose computer which does not have the serial copy restrictions of DVD, DAT, Sony Mini-Disk, etc. I'll have to use a general use computer to do my editing and creating. This is doubly true if it needs released in an open format.
    There will be programming that can only be viewed on the TV in the living room. There will be other programming that can be played on your RIO, in your DVD player, in your car.... As long as there is indi content, the DRM stuff will have harder time entering the market. Don't forget the Circuit City DVD experiment, full priced E-Books at Barns and Noble and of course the tiny press play optical. People don't pay full price for perishable media. They know it will go bad and won't invest in it for the personal library. The last DVD I bought, (Jackie Chan flick at Wal-Mart) I spent less than $6 for it. Selling a DRM protected newspaper article for $2 with an experation and with backup problems will be a very hard sell. Some corporate stuff that is sensitive may have a place, but for general consumption entertainment, it won't fly at high prices.
    Hey RIAA, Why can I find Jackie Chan videos for under $6, but no good music for less? Don't call loss of sales due to competetion for the entertainment buck a loss to piracy.

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