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Google Adds Location Targeted Searching

miradu writes "Many Slashdot users may remember that the winner of last year's Google programming contest's entry was a location specific search. Now, Google has made a version of Daniel's idea available to use on Google Labs. Google Search By Location lets you search for things near some zipcode, or city/state. It then gives you a map with each search result pinned on it. V"

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  1. Useful service by esconsult1 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Is google going to eventually require some kind of stripped down registration for this service? They've slowly (over the past year or so), started to roll out a pervasive registration for their various services (Adsense, Adwords), and optional registration would make sense here too.

    On the other side of things, Google stands to make a killing here. Google can sell a new class of ads to people like plumbers, who don't need a webpage. In fact, they could possibly host a minimal web page for those kind of advertisers who just want to show some simple text and services.

    Hey, perhaps Google wants to give me some kind of idea fee???

    1. Re:Useful service by thedillybar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is a wonderful idea. Sites like Yahoo already have Yellow Pages that do similar things. Hopefully Google can make it even better. I definitely believe MapQuest is a big improvement over Yahoo Maps. Nice to see that Google has started out small (just search engine), made their services FAR better than any competitor, and are now, finally, expanding.

    2. Re:Useful service by u01000101 · · Score: 4, Funny

      On the other side of things, Google stands to make a killing here. Google can sell a new class of ads to people like plumbers, who don't need a webpage.

      Wait, I have a better idea: why not put together a collection of local info (maybe print it also) and call that, say, Yellow Pages? :-)

      In other words, I call "prior art".

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    3. Re:Useful service by Theatetus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't feel bad. I live in Northern Virginia, where about two-thirds of all roads are named "Glebe". There's North, South, East, and West Glebe Road. North Glebe runs roughly north, while South Glebe runs east-west. West Glebe goes south, and is south of South Glebe. All of them have different route numbers, and the route numbers change.

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    4. Re:Useful service by Wateshay · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In other words, I call "prior art".

      So? I didn't see anyone mentioning that Google was going to try to patent the idea. They're not Amazon.com.

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    5. Re:Useful service by bezuwork's+friend · · Score: 2, Informative
      D.C. has this, but they have it from E to W. Then for N and S they have letters. For example, there is a N. D street and a S. D street. Once, before I realized the implications of this, I was looking for something at I and 3rd. Unfortunately I forgot which ones ... And, as ususal, I was late.

      I believe I hit it on the 4th try.

  2. Great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How come when I search for the location of "Hot single geek chicks" there are no results found?

    1. Re:Great, but... by scumbucket · · Score: 3, Funny

      Probably because you put 'Ann Arbor, MI' (Taco's current area of residence) in the address.........

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    2. Re:Great, but... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's because there ARE no hot single geek chicks - they're all hot single NERD chicks. Sheesh.

    3. Re:Great, but... by orangepeel · · Score: 5, Funny

      body temperature of 40C or greater

      So you're searching for SARS victims?

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    4. Re:Great, but... by MessageFactory · · Score: 2, Funny

      How come when I search for the location of "Hot single geek chicks" there are no results found?
      I tried "single geek" and found 4 billion results. Yippee me!

      ...oh wait...damn.

      ....it's a joke people :-)

  3. I know, i allways complane by sjwt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But wouldnt be cool to see this applyed to
    more then just the US?

    With all the talk about Google being
    'The' serch engine, id love to see
    something like this applyed on a
    world wide base.

    mind you not knowing how it works
    it may require ppl to put decent
    contact info on there pages,
    ie country name.

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    1. Re:I know, i allways complane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Since it's still in the labs, it's still an experimental project. They may eventually abandon the idea, or they may take it mainstream. Google News started out with a US-centric version, and has since expanded to cover a number of other countries.

  4. Still needs work: by grub · · Score: 4, Funny


    It's a great idea but the heuristics need work:

    "Your search for money grubbing scumbags near Lindon, UT did not match any documents within 15 miles."

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    1. Re:Still needs work: by orthogonal · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's a great idea but the heuristics need work:

      "Your search for money grubbing scumbags near Lindon, UT did not match any documents within 15 miles."


      That's because your spelling is wrong: it's
      money grubbing SCOumbags

  5. OMG! Google got slashdoted! by bflong · · Score: 5, Funny

    Server Error
    The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request.
    Please try again in a minute or so.

    Does anyone have a link to the google cache of this page?

    er.... nevermind...

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    1. Re:OMG! Google got slashdoted! by no+soup+for+you · · Score: 5, Funny
      Sometimes it decides on its own to break for a nice pot of Earl Grey and some fresh silicon wafers. We'll keep it running as much as possible, but please bear with us as we work to make it faster and more reliable.

      From the Google Search By Location FAQ

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    2. Re:OMG! Google got slashdoted! by squidfood · · Score: 4, Funny
      So,

      Is it better to slashdot google or google slashdot?

  6. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From the end of the article: "V" ????...

  7. Uh Oh by baldass_newbie · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was searching for a non-slashdotted version near me when it borked.

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  8. Oh, it's location by imbedded street addresses by Phoenix-kun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At first, I thought this was going to function by mapping the web server IP address to a geological location. This is much better. It is a logical extension from the feature where Google gives you street addresses when you search on business, etc. This could be really useful for finding local clubs and organizations that share a common interest.

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  9. Wouldn't lat/long be more elegant? by Thinkit3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Once GPS becames much more universal, it would be great for us all to move to latitude and longitude. That's a truly international standard.

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    1. Re:Wouldn't lat/long be more elegant? by zangdesign · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd think GPS would have to be damn near ubiquitous for that to work. Which would require that education be improved so that graduating seniors actually knew what lat/long is.

      I'm not going to hold my breath on that one. Give it a hundred years or so.

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    2. Re:Wouldn't lat/long be more elegant? by pavon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, no I don't think it would be more elegant. Latitude and longitude tell you where something is located, it doesn't tell you how to get there. "On Adams street, just north of McAlister", will always be more usefull to humans than 35.31234' N 108.47343' W (and we would need that many decimal places). That, however, does not mean that the underlying implementation can't use lat, long.

  10. using a city name in your website/URL name? by Cryofan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Would it be more effective for a small business that depends on local business (such as a house roofing or a plumbing company) to have a business name and a website that includes the name of the city? For example, "www.dallasplumbing.com" or www.dallas-plumbing.com? Which would be better at getting higher up in the google query? It would seem that with this IP location factor in the query that maybe such a URL scheme would be effective? Your opinions, please.....

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  11. Google's evolution by Peterus7 · · Score: 4, Funny
    What next, Google-RIAA search; 'enter a kazaa username and google will give you the IP address, personal information, credit card number, and home address of the user!'

    or, using google-patriot act search, type in a person's name, and you get all the secret cameras in their home, their entire geneology, pictures from their past, and other weird things that only the conspiracy theorists know...

    Or, even better, using google for moms, a google that scans the computer for cookies to find out what site her kid has been visiting via a cookie scan or something.

    I dunno, but eventually it's going to seem like an invasion of privacy with these search engines, but then again, once you put something online without any protection, it *is* public domain.

  12. Yahoo Yellow Pages by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How is this different from Yahoo Yellow Pages ( http://yp.yahoo.com )? I've been using that service for half a decade. It searches by zipcode / address as well.

    Dan East

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    1. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages by Andorion · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yahoo only shows Yellow Pages listings - the Google search basically finds *web pages* with some reference to that location with the search words in it.

      ~Berj

    2. Re:Yahoo Yellow Pages by pavon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well from what I can tell it doesn't just look in the yellow pages. For example I think I could do a search for linux, and it would display any addresses in my area that appeared on a linux website. Or I could search for the words "sale", and "shoes".

      Unfortunately, I was about to try some searches to see what other usefull things it could do other than yellow pages searches, when the site came to grinding halt. Sure enough, the story had just made the front page for non subscribers :)

      For yellow page type searches, I usually use mapquest, and I'm sure if this is better. The mapquest yellow page info seems to be out of data as it has turned up places that are out of business, and ommitted new ones. On the other hand the listing of results is much simple to read on mapquest. In addition, I don't know how smart google is on dealing with pages that have lists of addresses.

  13. A search for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    goats near Christmas Island is too disturbing for me.

  14. How about Google takes over Real Estate. by ahfoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That would be a trip.
    I tried the search and it failed on my quite a few times, but the potential is huge. The first thing that came to my mind was real estate.
    I've gone out looking for land with realtors that can't even find the lots they're supposed to be showing, and look how much they take in transaction fees for their "service." It' not like they do the Escrow themselves. I suppose it's a bit different for houses, but for land sales they act like they're doing you a favor.
    Not only that, but I've gone in with aerial photos and maps from the County that all come off of county maintained computer databases and the realtors inevitably insist their little hand drawn map that doesn't even accurately map the parcels is the more accurate solution.
    This could be the beginning of something huge for Google.

  15. Re:Most popular /. search so far by Seth+Finklestein · · Score: 2, Funny
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  16. labs.google.com IS NOT google.com by s88 · · Score: 4, Informative

    How many posts are going to say "OMG we slashdotted google." This clearly is not running on there huge cluster. Its probably just a single server or something. Settle down, pigs are not flying.

    Scott

    1. Re:labs.google.com IS NOT google.com by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 2, Informative

      It probably is running on some kind of cluster. They're trying to get it up to production strength, and there wouldn't be much point in a public beta if they still haven't made it clusterable (ie scalable).

      Of course, you're right, that doesn't mean it's scaled. It's likely on ten machines, not a few thousand.

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  17. Already got it. by Spudley · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here in the UK, you can use Multimap to acheive something close to this.

    Multimap's main use is simple as an online map, and it's used heavily here in the UK, but they do show pin-marks on the location of any services they know about.

    They only show links to certain categories of service (hotels, and the like), but limited though it is, the search by location service has been available for some time.

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  18. What if's by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 4, Insightful


    I wonder how they will be enforcing the zip code registration. The main drive behind google and the page rank thing was to take search engine optimization off the page and out of the hands of the web master so as to avoid keyword stuffing and not-quite-honest optimization techniques.

    But it seems sort of hard to determine the "location" of a website without input from the people behind the site. There are possibilities for abuse.

    But maybe there's no incentive to be listed in the wrong zip code... well, maybe there is.

    If you do a lot of business on the web or by mail, and your physical location doesn't matter, you might post 100 versions of your site, each with the zip code of a large metropolitan area. But then how many people would do that?

    Ah hell, I don't know. I'm rambling...

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  19. This still needs work. by gatekeep · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The results returned by this thing seem to be fairly irrelevant.

    When searching for 'food' with my office location I received the following results;

    -Food allergy and intolerances, fact sheet
    -Oriental grocery stores list for my area
    -Sources of free or low cost
    -Food science publications & journals
    -Thoughts on Food Safety
    -History of Hannakuh foods
    -Oriental grocery stores list (again)
    -foodandwine.com's best new chefs list

    Admittedly, 'food' is a pretty lame search, but I would've hoped to see a couple restaurants and grocery stores in the list.

  20. A San Diego Version by KrackHouse · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's a (hopefully) non-slashdotted site that does the same thing although it only works in San Diego. SDcommunities.net
    I got the latitude and longitude data from the Census for zip codes and created a HUGE reference tables for the distances between zip codes. Lots of math in the search code.

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  21. Re:I'm more worried.. by mblase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google gives good search results except when the law tells them not to -- and even then, they give you a link telling you that results were removed, and why.

    Google self-censors already, anyway -- by altering their PageLink algorithm when certain dishonest sites try rigging Google's system for better page results. This sort of self-censorship is a Good Thing.

    If you want a completely "open" search engine, you're probably going to keep looking. Other engines are increasingly giving into advertising boosting search results, and probably nobody has the breadth and depth of Google's database. You might not like the fact that they have to comply with the law in order to keep returning results at all, but believe me, they don't like it either, and they do all they can to remain honest.

  22. It's not new by f00zbll · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.superpages.com/ came out with mapbased search that uses an Applet a while back. And for those who remember Mapquest use to offer a similar feature back in the 90's. Google is a little late to the game. The application itself isn't all that hard to build. The real trick is providing a way for listees to correct the gps coordinates. For those familiar with GIS, that is the biggest problems. To my knowledge, VeriZon offers that capability to listees. You can easily test the accuracy of Goecodes by doing a search for the same address in mapquest, yahoo, and mappoint. You'll see the coordinates are not identical. Not only that, but each system uses a different level of precision. Only the military uses full precision, but then again they have to.

  23. Yahoo Yellow Pages - Not the same thing by coinreturn · · Score: 4, Informative

    How is this different from Yahoo Yellow Pages?

    Um, quite a bit of difference, theoretically. How about searching for parks, lakes, fire hydrants, mailboxes, phone booths, one-way streets, registered sex offenders, gullible people, etc.

  24. Maybe not such a good thing? by GreenCrackBaby · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Slashdot seems to be very pro-Google, and I admit to using their search the majority of the time as well, but everyone should at least take a glance at google watch. Of most interest is the privacy section. If any other site were to track the stuff Google does, /. would be up in arms protesting.

    "Google currently does not allow outsiders to gain access to raw data because of privacy concerns. Searches are logged by time of day, originating I.P. address (information that can be used to link searches to a specific computer), and the sites on which the user clicked. People tell things to search engines that they would never talk about publicly -- Viagra, pregnancy scares, fraud, face lifts. What is interesting in the aggregate can seem an invasion of privacy if narrowed to an individual."

    Please note, this isn't a troll, and I'm not wearing a tin-foil hat (maybe I should?). Imagine the following scenario: a bomb goes off in the US. By tracing searches for "anarchist cookbook" to zipcodes within the area of the bomb blast, the FBI could have access to information that makes TIA look like a better alternative.

    Maybe this isn't such a good feature after all...

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    1. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by docwardo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Question here:

      But all this info IP address, variable values, and sites on which the user clicked....

      isn't that all just from most standard web server log?

      Technically doesn't /. record every page I click on, my orginating IP address and any searches I perform?

    2. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by multi+io · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Searches are logged by [...] the sites on which the user clicked

      How is this done? The result links don't point to redirections...

    3. Re:Maybe not such a good thing? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      90% of the complaints on Google-Watch are from "search engine optimizers."

      That is, people are upset that they can't manipulate listings on Google for money. (Hint: Buy a fucking ad.) Forgive me if that makes me want to ignore Google-Watch.

      Google's privacy policy is well defined. If you've got a problem with it, holler. Your scenario would pretty clearly violate their policy. If you've got some other way that they should do their business without losing features, holler.

      Till then, quit hinting.

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  25. nope... by professorhojo · · Score: 5, Funny

    it doesn't know where saddam is either...

    ph

  26. Already done... by cnelzie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Check out www.smartpages.com

    It is an online yellow pages. Each listed company has a small 'web-page' that provides a link to the actual external web-page, if available, as well as a mapquest map, address and main contact phone number.

    I use that site ALL the time looking up potential service vendors for the company I work for.

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  27. Congratulations, you've slashdotted Google! by redbaron7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    After a lot of trying, you've finally slashdotted Google! lol

    I keep getting server errors when I try searching for things like donuts or my own webpage. Either that, or it thinks Irving,TX is a black hole. Hmm, don't answer that.

    RB

  28. Re:Great, but... (the three Ls) by gosand · · Score: 5, Funny
    How come when I search for the location of "Hot single geek chicks" there are no results found?

    You should probably change the location to something other than "my parent's basement".

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  29. Re:Looking for telecommuters? by ikkonoishi · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't mod this guy up.

    He is stealing someone else's post

    Original post Damn plagerist.
  30. Did Daniel Get any $$ for this? by mogrinz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I mean, beyond the 10K he made in the contest. Did Google give him a job? Or did they basically get this great idea (and a lot of others) for the low-low price of $10,000?

  31. No useful service.... by mseeger · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... covers only one country with unreliable power supply ;-).

    Regards, Martin

  32. Yeah, let's try that by michiel.h · · Score: 2, Interesting
    What next, Google-RIAA search; 'enter a kazaa username and google will give you the IP address, personal information, credit card number, and home address of the user!'
    Alright, let's try that.
    First, a quick search of most active username on kazaa.
    Ah, there we have it. Now, let's find some info on this bastard.

    -- --
    Google 'Search by location' search term: kazaaliteuser@kazaa.com
    Google 'Search by location' region: USA

    Google found 2.304.942 search results:

    Alabama

    A. Allan
    1425 21st Street South, Suite 208
    Anniston, AL 12205

    A. Andrews
    517 Beacon Parkway West
    Anniston, AL 25209

    A. Baccus
    106 W Third St
    Birmingham, AL 35674

    ......
    ....
    ..


  33. Watch the neighborhood by manmanic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is great... combined with something like GoogleAlert you could watch for anything new springing up in your neighborhood!

  34. Still Some Bugs? by technix4beos · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hrm... Not quite there yet.

    Searching for Microsoft and Redmond in the search and location fields yields nothing.

    From Google's regular search engine I get these results.

    I think they still have some work cut out for them. Granted, it's a great feature, but nothing earth-shattering, since the concept of "yellow pages" has been online for a very long time.

    Some notable YP type engines that I might suggest:

    - Yahoo Yellow Pages
    - InfoSpace
    - Bigfoot

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  35. privacy by noelo · · Score: 2

    type in 'sex' and 'new york' as the location and the first thing it comes up with is the registry of sex offenders...hmmm very useful for vigilantes

  36. US-only... by ZvlvLord · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Good day,
    Would it hurt the story submitters and/or the moderators to mention it when something is US specific ? Not that we have anything against it, but I'm tired on clicking on a link to only find out that whatever the link is pointing to is US-specific. I was excited by this search-by-location feature and then... saw that it was only for the US. Feel free to mod me down if you want, but Slashdot's readership is NOT 100% American. Get a clue.