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Build Your Own Segway

bugbear writes "Robot hacker Trevor Blackwell explains how to build your own Segway-style balancing scooter. He says it's not that hard (but he already knows how to build walking robots)."

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  1. I'm tempted... by r_glen · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do the bans on Segways apply to this?

  2. Still not US-friendly by TACD · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't help but notice that it lacks training wheels. Guess GWB will have to wait a bit longer before he can join this 'revolution'...

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  3. Is it REALLY a Segway? by pegr__ · · Score: 4, Funny

    I mean, does it throw you off when the battery dies?

  4. well i've built one already by Kwelstr · · Score: 4, Funny

    I changed the configuration, and instead of using an electric motor, I made it human powered. I put the wheels front and back instead of sideways... That way I cannot get sued.

    Also, I decided to add a sit, because I don't like standing and I have eliminated the giroscopes, they are too expensive.

    Hmmmm I think I am going to call my device "the bicycle". It has a nice ring to it.

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  5. It's patented by sterno · · Score: 3, Informative

    Most of the technology that makes the Segway work is patented. So sure you can likely build yourself one without pissing anybody off, but don't plan to start a business making them for another decade or two.

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  6. Forget the Segway. Better wheelchairs! by Davak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The guy that designed the segway also designed the iBot which is basically a wheelchair that can "walk" on 2 or 4 wheels. This includes the easy navigation of stairs.

    Forget about copying the segway...

    Copy this device! It goes for about 20k... how many people do you think can really afford this thing? This device allows wheelchair-bound people to practically walk again!

    Drugs go generic... but I fear this thing will be too pricey for a long time to come.

  7. it's only a flesh wound by Dorothy+86 · · Score: 4, Funny
    There is no redundancy or backup system. It is not even robustly made. Loose wires literally dangle out the bottom. In the fairly likely event of the software crashing, a wire coming loose, a component failing, or the batteries running low, the wheels will lock and the entire kinetic energy of the system is used to accelerate my head toward the ground.

    Sounds like fun to me!

  8. Re:qustion about segway et all: by kfg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The size of the adult bicycle wheel was developed through trial and error over a few decades. What I find interesting is that two largely seperate development trees came to much the same conclusion.

    26" in America, 700c in Europe.

    It's a pretty good indication that within the parameters of the problem the solution is reasonably close to optimal.

    Of course if you change the parameters you change the solution. Folding bikes, for instance, generally go with 24" or 20" wheels since one of the parameters is now compact size when folded.

    One of the design parameters of Segway type vehicles is that they take up a fairly small footprint, as close to a pedestrian footprint as they can get. Hence the small wheels.

    Of course the smaller wheels carry certain disadvantages, as you note. Higher rolling resistence (but since you're not pedaling this may not matter much to you), less able to climb over obstacles, more likely to fall into potholes and "nibble" in cracks.

    Probably the biggest detriment to the small wheels is the inherent lack of stability though. With the rider's platform hanging well below the axle line they'd have stability without the gyroscope. You can buy toys for parakeets made like this. Kind of like Weebles with Wheels. (In fact that would make a good name for a "motorcycle gang" mounted on these).

    Before the turn of the century there were actually a number of commercial bicycles sold that were built on this same layout.

    They don't work as well as a nice folding bike though. That's why you don't see them anymore but a number of manufacturers will sell you a folding bike.

    You "recharge" a folding bike with pizza, which is rather pleasant, and they're much easier to take on the bus with you than a Segway like device when you get tired of pedaling.

    I tend to think there will continue to be more bikes than Segways for a good while yet.

    KFG

  9. I aready built one by reboot246 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I started from scratch and tried to build a better one, but I couldn't find the fancy gyros and electric motors used on the original. Funny thing though, it came out looking like a bicycle.

  10. Is it just me? by Hershmire · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Couldn't someone create a cheap knockoff of the Segway by attaching a small shopping cart wheel to the back, and chucking all of the expensive gyros? They wouldn't even violate any Segway patents in the process.

    In any event, $5,000 for a scooter is just sillyness (yes, it is just a scooter).

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  11. Re:Oh, come on... by MBCook · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Why don't you do a little more reading before trolling (which, IMHO, you're doing). First of all, I think that guy's statements still stand, getting the Segway to market was still quiet an achievement.

    That said, just look under the heading "Limits":

    Update: apparently Segway just recalled all their scooters to fix a similar problem: it can't handle hitting a bump with low batteries.

    Balancing depends on being able to keep the wheels under the center of gravity. If you're going fast and then run into something like a ramp or speed bump, it may require a lot of power for a short time to keep the wheels going up the ramp. Basically, it needs enough power available to provide maximum torque (enough to sustain speed up a 45 degree ramp) at the current speed. As batteries get low and motors get warm, the amount of available torque goes down. It's hard to predict exactly when it doesn't have enough to run safely. There's certainly a large gap between when it couldn't handle hitting a speed bump at 5 MPH and when the batteries actually run down. It would be a formidable task to develop the map of battery & motor condition to maximum safe speed, and you'd probably end up shutting it down well before the batteries were exhausted.

    There is another paragraph below that with even more info. Reading the first 3 paragraphs does not count as reading the article, you know.

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  12. Truly we will be advanced by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    When the walking robot climb on and ride the scooter. Oh the irony of it!

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  13. Big wheels by LauraW · · Score: 3, Informative

    Er, probably. (Scroll down a bit.)

  14. Re:Oh, come on... by tftp · · Score: 3, Funny
    Park a Seg for long enough, and it will fall over of its own accord. Name any other vehicle that falls prey to that.

    A horse :-)

  15. Re:Cost by tho+1234 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "I'd rather buy 2 of his scooters than give my money to Dean Kamen."

    Why? Why would you hate Deam Kamen?

    He has invented dozens of revolutionary biomedical devices that have improved the lives of many people. (dialysis machines, wheelchairs, etc). Many design elements from the Segway, esp the redundent backup systems, come from his experience in biomedical devices.

    Meanwhile, he has used much of the money made through this to promote engineering and technology to high school students, through the FIRST robotics competition(http://www.usfirst.org/)

    This competition has raised the awareness of robotics and engineering to thousands of students, and probably a good reason why i'm studying engineering physics (with EE major) right now.

    I don't see why a tech site like slashdot is so against him, when he has done so much in promoting technology to the masses.