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ATI/Half-Life 2 Bundle Confirmed

An anonymous reader writes "The Inquirer has a recent article on the launch of ATI's Radeon 9800 XT and 9600 XT, happening tonight at Alcatraz." In fact, there's now a press release announcing that "...customers purchasing ATI's Radeon 9800 XT and 9600 XT will also get a free copy of Half-Life 2 when the game ships", whenever that is, and confirming the price of the 9800 at $499, and the 9600 at "under $200."

38 comments

  1. What? No mention of OpenGL? by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 1

    ATI Technologies Inc. today introduced the RADEON(TM) 9800 XT and the RADEON(TM) 9600 XT, delivering killer DirectX(R) 9 performance in leading games like Half-Life(R) 2, which will be bundled with the graphics cards.

    Looks like ATI and Valve know where their bread is buttered.

  2. Re:What? No mention of OpenGL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mmmmmmm, butter. *drools*

  3. Beware the Bundle by MBCook · · Score: 2, Informative

    My understanding is that at least at the start, you don't get a CD, you get a cupon that let's you download it from Valve's Steam system. In the future will it switch? I somewhat doubt it, but I hope I'm wrong.

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    1. Re:Beware the Bundle by UltimaL337Star · · Score: 0

      if it does not switch... then frodo must get there first and destroy the ring...

  4. They win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This may be the one thing that gets me to switch to ATI after using Nvidia for so long!

  5. forget ATI by ArmorFiend · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Forget it, the only bundled item I want to see are the hardware specifications for their card, so that someone can build decent free drivers for them. Is it so much to ask that you know how to use what you're buying?

    1. Re:forget ATI by BrookHarty · · Score: 1

      Forget it, the only bundled item I want to see are the hardware specifications for their card, so that someone can build decent free drivers for them. Is it so much to ask that you know how to use what you're buying?

      And this is going to stop windows gamers from buying the card? Its a bitch to get games working under linux, its easier to buy another PC and buy some cheaper, better supported hardware. If the only multimedia is music/video then you dont need an the fastest GFX card out ther, an old Geforce or Matrox will just fine. Hell, even cheap 11 dollar yamaha sound cards have full duplex drivers for linux/bsd.

      I have 4 machines, my main pc which runs winxp for games/etc, dual p400 linux box, dual 1.42ghz power mac, and my p233 linux firewall. Really, an all 1 one machine doesnt exist.

      Speaking of supported hardware, Maximum PC has a list of best budget and best top end hardware. IS there a list like this for linux/bsd? So you can just build the best budget linux box with best support, or a top end bsd/linux workstation with full drivers?

    2. Re:forget ATI by MMaestro · · Score: 1

      Except for the fact that you'd end up with a mass glut of free drivers for X hardware. Hardcore gamers would end up downloading them to squeeze an extra frame out and Linux users will use because its the only driver that will run on their system. That'd be like trying to make a standarized shoe cleaning machine when everyone has a relatively unique sized shoe.

  6. Sounds like a good deal by borg1238 · · Score: 1

    A free copy of Half Life 2 sounds good to me, however I doubt they will be shipping out them out in a timely manner. I don't want to be waiting 6-8 weeks for ATI to get me my free copy of HL2. ...yah know, 6-8 weeks from, uh, whenever it's done.

  7. Castrated version of HL2... by zoobaby · · Score: 2, Informative

    I heard previuosly that it will not be the full version of HL2 shipping with the ATI 9800XT. I heard it will be a single player only version. WTF is with that, or am I wrong?

    1. Re:Castrated version of HL2... by JExtine · · Score: 1
      I heard previuosly that it will not be the full version of HL2 shipping with the ATI 9800XT. I heard it will be a single player only version. WTF is with that, or am I wrong?

      Hopefully...

    2. Re:Castrated version of HL2... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      http://ati.com/companyinfo/press/2003/4692.html

      MARKHAM, Ontario - ATI Technologies Inc. (TSX: ATY, NASDAQ: ATYT) today announced that Valve(R), a leading game developer, has named ATI as the preferred graphics card partner for its upcoming game Half-Life(R) 2. As a part of this agreement with Valve, ATI customers will get the full Half-Life 2 game free1 with the purchase of select RADEON(TM) products.

      1 Shipping, handling and applicable taxes or customs charges are not included. Charges vary depending on purchaser's mailing address and method of delivery (i.e.; download vs. land delivery). Offer only available while supplies last.

    3. Re:Castrated version of HL2... by EricTheMad · · Score: 1

      Unfortuneatly that's true. The single player version is also the one that they will be selling at Walmart. Hopefully they will have some sort of upgrade method in place.

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    4. Re:Castrated version of HL2... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's my understanding that to play multiplayer for ANY of valve's upcoming games (HL2, CS:CZ, CS2, etc.) you have to subscribe to steam. This costs a monthly fee, in the same fashion as everquest. You can buy the single player games, but you have to subscribe to the multiplayer.

    5. Re:Castrated version of HL2... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, that's an incorrect understanding. You'll need to get a Steam account, but you shouldn't have to pay for it. They're planning to offer a monthly plan if you want access to all their games, but I doubt they'll charge for playing the HL2 you get through ATI. Check out the FAQ for more info.

      Btw, does anyone have a source of information saying that the ATI version will be single-player only? ATI's announcements don't seem to mention it.

    6. Re:Castrated version of HL2... by My+name+isn't+Tim · · Score: 1

      It says it has both single player and multiplayer on the box

  8. review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...driverheavens 9800 XT review...makes for interesting reading.

    http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/9800xt

  9. One size fits all? by hbackert · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really, an all 1 one machine doesnt exist.

    I found that out too. Had a dual CPU Linux box for almost all things (beside a server running Samba, DNS, DHCP and all this type of server work). Linux was fine, but the machine was too slow for newer games (when dual booting to Windows), many games did not use the second CPU, some ATI and other drivers did not like two CPUs at all...all kind of nasty little problems.

    The simple solution was a game-only computer: 1 CPU, fast video card (time to upgrade the old Radeon 8500LE). I can whole heartly recommend such a setup. If you buy the latest-and-greatest hardware, you'll have endless problems with Linux (e.g. nForce2 mainboard: no IOAPIC, no Firewire, just now they start to work, 9 monthes after the boards were available, Linux 2.5 was better but not everyone like to live on the bleeding edge). I don't blame any Linux developers as it's clearly the fault of the hardware vendors who don't supports Linux drivers actively, with very few exceptions. Use old-and-venerable hardware (1+ year) and it's a great Linux box (read: everything works out of the box) but when dual-booting to Windows for games, some hardware is no longer supported, or does not work well any more, or is just too slow for current games. I was not able to find a one-size-size-fits-all, so I bought 2 sizes and I could not be happier.

    My next video card will be some updated ATI or nVidia card. With HL2 bundled or not. That will go to the Windows-mostly machine. The current ATI 8500LE will go to the Linux-mostly machine so I can finally connect 2 monitors.

    It's not the perfect setup taking more space and needing a KVM switch, but it simplifies the choice of hardware a lot as I don't need to wait for simultanious Windows-and-Linux support. Getting Linux worh with it 1 year later is fine for me.

    And for those who'll cry "I cannot afford 2 computers, I want my latest-and-fastest video card to be supported in Linux" I say: those video cards are far too expensive anyway. How can you afford a US$500 video card? Save for a US$200 video card, a US$300 second computer or reused parts, a KVM switch and use the best of both worlds. Seriously.

    1. Re:One size fits all? by BrookHarty · · Score: 1

      How can you afford a US$500 video card? Save for a US$200 video card, a US$300 second computer or reused parts, a KVM switch and use the best of both worlds. Seriously.

      How you are right, right now the 9600 pro overclocks rather nicely and can be bought for 110 bux. Still faster than those Nvidia ti4800's that are more expensive. Thou, the real need for the faster cards are shader and anti-aliasing. Most games will run with great FPS without anti-aliasing, but turn 6x AA on, and thats when you need the 9800 type cards. I personally still play counter-strike, but with high-resolution skins, and 6xAA. The game looks smooth, looks sharp, and pumps out 100+fps. But when I play Unreal with the same anti-aliasing, it drops in real active battles to sub 20's, but hovers around 50fps.

      I have a 9700 pro, I picked up last year, and it still gets good FPS in games, should tide me over till next year, but I might have to drop down anti-aliasing levels for higher FPS in HL2. Still, ATI did a good job, almost a year, and my video card is still only a frames per second behind the 9800 and the FX 5900 ultra. Good job ATI.

  10. What a waste of money by BigKato · · Score: 1

    Who's gonna buy this card just cuz it comes with HL2, especially since the game isn't even out yet. The good thing about this is the fact that the 9800 pro should be going down in price and according tomshardware.com the new ATI card barely surpasses the 9800 Pro in the benchmarks. In two months the 9800 Pro should be within my price range (maybe the all in wonder). One thing someone could shed some light on for me involves the memory. 128 MB vs. 256 MB ? Do I really need 256 MB in the next couple of years because there is quite a difference in price. Thanks.

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    1. Re:What a waste of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention that the 256MB Version is actually slower on most of the benchmarks I've seen...

    2. Re:What a waste of money by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 1

      Valve made some statements that the 256MB cards would be made use of by HL2 (it would detect the video RAM and increase texture resolution or pack more textures into video RAM for faster use), but I think for the most part you'll be ok for a while with 128MB.

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    3. Re:What a waste of money by phallen · · Score: 1

      I'LL BUY IT.

      Why? It's a good deal. I've been looking at a Radeon 9600 Pro 128MB. Best price I can find after taxes, shipping, etc. is about $140. HL2 will be about $50, and I'll be buying that when it comes out.

      So, that's $190 for the game+older graphics card or $199 for game+newer (and better I'll assume... I'll wait for the reviews) graphics card. I'm just doing the math.

      Yeah, waiting will suck, but I mostly want the new card for HL2 and D3 anyway. Also, I'm hoping that I won't have to wait to get my HL2 shipped if I download it.

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  11. $500 and still no dual DVI by hirschma · · Score: 1

    If they can afford to put a copy of HL2 in the box, can't they afford the extra $.50 it'd cost them to support TWO DVI monitors? Enough with the VGA connector already...

    My next upgrade, sadly, will remain Nvidia. At least one of their partners can support my monitors.

    1. Re:$500 and still no dual DVI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, there are a lot of people out there who still have a monitor from the 90's. STFU.

  12. If they really want to sell them by _Sexy_Pants_ · · Score: 1

    Package it before the game comes out. Now that we've come so close to tasting it

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  13. Only $500? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This reminds me of the free Voice over IP offered to students of Dartmouth.

  14. Re:What? No mention of OpenGL? by Dot.Com.CEO · · Score: 1

    Yes, because we all know there are a lot of current games out that need OpenGL. Doom3 is not coming out until March next year.

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  15. Crap by kaellinn18 · · Score: 2, Funny

    *opens box and sees two copies of original Half-Life*

    I knew it had to be a typo...

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  16. WOW! THE RADEON 9600XT AND THE RADEON 9800XT ROXX! by Sj0 · · Score: 1

    The Radeon 9600 XT runs at a whopping 4.77Mhz, and boasts an unbelievable 640kb of onboard ram! It also has state-of-the art, high resolution monochrome graphics(710x480), and is more than enough for all your computing needs. The Radeon 9800 XT takes that same incredible system and adds a gargantuan 5Mb Hard drive and stunning CGA graphics!

    Radeon 9600 XT:$5000.00
    Radeon 9800 XT:$6800.00

    ORDER TODAY!

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  17. Re:WOW! THE RADEON 9600XT AND THE RADEON 9800XT RO by erusvertus12 · · Score: 1

    Any All-In-Wonder 9700 Comptability issues? How about Opengl and or DirectX what happened to them?

  18. Re:WOW! THE RADEON 9600XT AND THE RADEON 9800XT RO by Sj0 · · Score: 1

    The Radeon 9600XT and Radeon 9800XT are so advanced, their names stand for "eXtended Technology". Unfortunately, this means that we had to break SOME backwards compatibility with older versions.

    OpenGL support? Well, specific applications can choose to support it in MS-DOS, and our video subsystems are so fast, it will only take SEVEN HOURS AND TEN SECONDS to run the "draw wine glass" benchmark popularized by SGI! The 9800XT can even do this in STUNNING CGA COLOUR!

    DirectX? You must mean direct framebuffer access. Yes, our systems indeed have full access to the the 0xA000 and 0xB800 segments, and the CGA registers as well, so programmers can have full, lightning fast access to the stunning high resolution graphics!

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  19. Conspiracy Theory: ATI pays for HL2 delay? by eh? · · Score: 1

    Surprised this hasn't popped up before... Maybe the delay of Half-life 2 is because of ATI? Maybe they cut a deal so that if you want to be the first to own HL2, you have to buy an ATI card?

    What would we have to talk about without conspiracy theories?

    1. Re:Conspiracy Theory: ATI pays for HL2 delay? by My+name+isn't+Tim · · Score: 1

      actually since the game isn't in the box, it's a voucher, you'd get it at the same time it's released to the public no conspiracy there

  20. I wouldn't buy these new ATI cards yet.... by t0qer · · Score: 1

    Despite my P4 1.4 and GF2-GTS card showing it's age, I know now is not the right time to go out and get upgrades..

    2004 we should start seeing BTX motherboards with PCI express on them, ATI has already announced support for PCI express.

    So why buy anything AGP right now? It's going to be phased out by next year!