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MPAA School Propaganda Program Examined

Anonymous Coward copies-and-pastes: "'As part of its campaign to thwart online music and movie piracy, Hollywood is now reaching into school classrooms with a program that denounces file-sharing and offers prizes for students and teachers who spread the word about Internet theft. The Motion Picture Association of America paid $100,000 to deliver its anti-piracy message to 900,000 students nationwide in grades 5-9 over the next two years, according to Junior Achievement Inc., which is implementing the program using volunteer teachers from the business sector." Only $100,000 to advertise to 900,000 students? What a deal! We mentioned this earlier.

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  1. Just like DARE by AlgoRhythm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And we all know how much THAT works.

    At least taxpayers aren't paying for it.

  2. Bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anytime you tell a kid that something's bad, their first instinct is to go investigate it. After listening to the **AA's lectures, they'll immediately go home and log on the net to see what this "Kazaa" thing is.

  3. overly simplistic by toasted_calamari · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article:
    "If you haven't paid for it, you've stolen it."

    I honestly hope that this program has a more complex take on IP than this. I can easily think of many, many things on line that can be obtained for free, legally. (the entire contents of sourceforge comes to mind.) IP law is phenomenally complicated and cannot be boiled down to simple slogans and sound bytes.

    1. Re:overly simplistic by JediTrainer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "If you haven't paid for it, you've stolen it."

      Someone care to comment on my status? As a Canadian who purchases lots of CDRs (no, I don't use them for music - I need them to do my work), I've been paying the heavy levies on every disc I purchase, which are given to the music industry.

      Since I've effectively been paying for music without choosing to do so, does that mean that I can start (legally) copying now?

      If not, how does the government justify the levy? Some people are copying, so charge us all like we're all guilty? Doesn't seem fair that I have to pay for music that other people are copying, just because the media is capable of carrying music on it.

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  4. start while they are young by Zanek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This reminds me of one of my favorite books, 'A Brave New World'.
    Program the kids while they are young and by the time they are adolescents they may think copying music (not stealing :-)
    is as bad as physically stealing from a store. I wonder if someday some kid will be
    like "Copying music is worst than stealing cars"

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  5. You're forgetting... by StringBlade · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They already know more about Kazaa, filesharing, and the Internet than most adults.

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  6. I don't think this is a bad thing by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Children need to learn that Downloading Copyrighted material illegaly is against the law and can cause problems for their families if they are caught.

    I would however direct the kids to other sources of music (like magnatunes, etc.)

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  7. er its a school not a billboard by pacman+on+prozac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why should any business or company be allowed to advertise in school, regardless of what their message is.

    Besides what are they teaching the kids, that it doesn't matter if you make a load of worthless crap aslong as you have lawyers to back you up? yea great.

  8. ARGH.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    God forbid that they actually teach the students a bit about the law and how the gov't is f'ckin everyone over these days..

    The schools teach revisionist history.. the schools teach idiocy..

    Students are no longer taught to think for themselves, infact it's discouraged.. how dare you question the couse material layed out infront of you.

    If schools taught important things, like how debt works and how to balance a checkbook, and why learning is not only fun, but often rewarding, and how the process of invention works.. this world would be a lot better off..

    but no.. we're taught MS clicker training, while the convience of MC D's and tacohell on our student visa and now revisionist corporate law..

    Where's my pitchfork.. i smell a revolution comin to North America soon..

  9. Brainwashing ? by MoonFog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Andrew Irgens-Moller, 14, buried his head into a backpack on his desk and rolled his eyes as the guest teacher warned of computer viruses and hackers that could take control of a user's desktop via file-sharing programs. He objected that antivirus software could scan downloaded files and only sophisticated hackers could pull off the remote desktop computer takeover.
    Then the teacher cut him off.


    These are brainwashing tactics... It is downright scary that these "guest teachers" are even allowed to spread such FUD. If they want to move young kids away from filesharing, try at least to feed them with false information.
    "Your computer can be taken over at the minute you install Kazaa"

    1. Re:Brainwashing ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly. They're basing their arguments on trying to scare the kids, and while some may be convinced, enough will know the reality of the situation to not be convinced. The logic is then "well, if that's wrong, what about the rest" and the whole thing crumbles.

      I've heard similar things with sex-ed campaigns. Someone tells the kids that condoms have a 20% failure rate (which they do, if you don't read the instructions), and therefore they shouldn't have sex because it's not safe. While yes, that will scare some kids into not having sex, it's also going to mean a lot more don't bother with condoms because they're ineffective.

  10. MPAA != RIAA by Neophytus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Common misconception.

  11. Contrast this by cubicledrone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With the average volunteer who might want to help kids in the local school districts learn to read or to operate a computer. Schools would require such a person to navigate a bureaucratic maze for weeks.

    But for $100,000, they'll gladly put the taxpayer-funded curriculum on hold for the day and allow a live advertisement for the latest feature film to kids who can't read or construct a complete sentence. Incredible.

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  12. One good thing about it... by Dave21212 · · Score: 4, Insightful


    If they passed out pamphlets to the students, at least they won't be able to read them.

    "Why Can't Johnny Read ?"
    --- Because the teachers spend more time trying to brainwash and subdue the little brats than actually teaching them perhaps ?

    Lovely...
    Do any lawyers think there might be a case for equal time/access ? Send Linus or RMS around to teach kids for a while...

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  13. Soviet is right by GabrielF · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can certainly see the reasoning behind this, after all kazaa has become so prevalent among kids that it is necessary to teach them about copyright law, etc. Remember the 12 year old girl sued by the RIAA? She thought what she was doing was legal because she'd paid $30 to kazaa gold. However, this clumsy, idiotic attempt at "educating" kids is downright wrong. If you're going to explain complicated legal issues to kids you should have people who know what they're talking about do it, not your average teachers and certainly not industry trade groups. And making kids write essays about how filesharing is evil does nothing except extol the virtues of bullshitting your way through life 'cause someone told you to. This system IS downright soviet.

  14. Re:Only a step from by EinarH · · Score: 4, Insightful
    And they want to scare of the parents as well. A part of the program is a take home and fill-out-together letter to the parents.

    I wrote a long comment about this and the program last time this was mentioned.
    There are some links to the pdf files in the program there.

    The Starving Artist is a discussion based game where students are divided in group and shall produce a CD but then they are ripped off by "file swapping". "how does this makes you feel?"


    Share the following statements with the students to summarize the lesson with the class. These statements help summarize the lesson and connect the concepts to the students personally.
    - To legally own it, legally buy it.
    - If you haven't paid for it, you've stolen it.
    - Copying a movie or CD for a friend is illegal.
    - If you wouldn't take a movie or CD from the shelves of a store without paying for it, then why do it online?

    I must say that $100,000 is dirt cheap for a program like this.

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  15. Re:Only a step from by Kierthos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Please. If the MPAA or RIAA ever offers anything... cash, CDs, valuable prizes, etc. for turning in people who download movies or music, you'll see everybody ratting on each other... grade school students are not exactly know for selflessness... plus, it gives the geeks a chance to get back at all the people who gave them wedgies or forced the geek to do their homework... (put mp3s on jock's computer, report jock, profit)

    Kierthos

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  16. This Is Worse Than You Think by SirChive · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is really bad. Not so much because the MPAA is going to schools to deliver it's particular propaganda. But because ANY group from private industry can buy access to school kids.

    What's next? Representatives from the Brokerage industry going to grade schools to preach the virtues of buying stock? Fast food evangelists marching freely through classrooms brainwashing kids to eat only Happy Meals.

    The MPAA is evil. But no more evil than any other industry group that will push it's own profits at the expense of all else. We are truely losing our integrity as a society if we let any of them into our schools.

  17. So much for volunteering... by Shoten · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I participated in JA when I was in high school, all those years ago; I was actually about to approach them locally and start participating as a volunteer. Frickin' forget THAT now. What are they thinking, acting as a forum where organizations can pay to disseminate information for their agendas?

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  18. How appropriate is this to have in our schools? by didipickles · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This doesn't seem to be appropriate. What mass message is next? What if Microsoft pays big $$$ to get into a school and influence kids and their buying power. (Oh wait that happens already..) But seriously, our kids should be learning about the basic subjects, not having teachers running around carring a flag for a certain group.
    I have views and belong to certain conservative groups. But there is no way I would support an organized group of teachers running around trying to 'spread the word.'
    We have kids that can't even read when they get through school, and teachers are doing this?

    -Teachers, Get off your soap box and go back to teaching.
    -Music Industry - Ride the wave of change, or get off.

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  19. It's All About the Hearts and Minds by BlackBolt · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Big media propaganda like this may work in a small sector of society, but it seems consumers are slightly unsatisfied with how the big media companies are handling things. And when the people aren't happy, economics dictates that they do what they have to do to get happy, in this case, pirate. I watch Survivor, all those pirate dudes love it there. Piracy is your friend. Now, I'm not condoning piracy, but the fact is, the corporations and the customers both have a responsibility to defend their respective positions, and to prevent the other power group from stealing too much control and upsetting the fragile and beautiful balance we call crapitalism. The system only works if both sides are doing their jobs, and that is:

    Customers: Shop wisely. You are voting with your dollars. If you accept draconian DRM, you will NEVER get your freedom back. You must protect your individual rights by choosing the best product and not buying based solely on emotionally exciting advertising hype or getting pushed around by impotent corporate shortcuts to profitability.

    Corporations: Adapt to the changing environment as you have always done. Listen to the customers and do everything possible to keep these informed consumers on your side. Search for innovative ways to improve your product, streamline your processes, and still make a REASONABLE amount of money. Stay alive to serve the customers tomorrow.

    Here's a quick rundown of some of the main gripes consumers have with big media products today:

    Things Wrong with Movies: Overpriced movies to match the overpriced snacks, Ben Affleck and J-Lo, crappy plots (which also may fall under the Ben Affleck category), $20+ million dollar salaries for actors which leads to increased ticket prices, irritating and useless copy-protection on DVDs, etc.

    Things Wrong with Music: Overpriced CDs, Britney Spears, not enough money given to the artists, Britney Spears, generic one-hit wonder boy bands pushed like a cheap drug, Britney Spears, general refusal to adapt to the internet (thank Apple for what innovation there is there), etc.

    Things Wrong with Satellite: Well, nothing.... We're just stealing that because we can.

  20. Let's play Starving Artist by BigRedFish · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Starving Artist is a discussion based game where students are divided in group and shall produce a CD but then they are ripped off

    Whee! Hey kids, let's play Starving Artist! It's FUN!

    Students are divided into groups, in which each group 'produces' a CD. When finished, they submit their CD to local radio stations hoping it will be played, and try to get them sold in record stores, only to find out that the radio only plays material presented by a members of a certain association, and the shelf-space at the store is contractually obligated to hold only that association's material. The best they can get is the one small indie store on the bad side of town will put some copies in a cardboard box up near the register with 'indie bands' written on it in magic marker. How does this make them feel?

    Then the students shop their CD to association-affiliated record labels. After repeated rejections, the students finally learn that if they want their CD heard, they have to accept a contract that pays them, at most, 4.5 cents per $18 CD sold. How does this make them feel?

    Students then put up a website and let people download MP3s of their CD for free, with an online store selling 'real' packaged CDs, along with T-Shirts, posters, keychains, and other such merchandise, with all profits going directly to the students. Students calculate how many 4.5-cent CDs they'd have to sell to make the same as the $6 profit from a single CD sale on their own site, even selling at half the association's price. How does THIS make them feel?

    Then they learn that the association is rigging consumer devices such that their independent CDs can't play unless they pay fifteen grand to the association for a 'key.' And they can only buy the key if they agree to the 4.5-cent contract and let the association have all the merch sales. Students calculate how much an extra $1.60 per-CD royalty tax eats into their bottom lines, the cost of lost T-Shirt sales, and how many 4.5-cent CDs it would take to pay off the $15,000 for a key. How does this make them feel?

    End of lesson discussion: Why are artists starving?

    OPTIONAL: If time permits, the teacher may role-play a visiting guest teacher who tries to tell them that they're criminals for daring to want to produce or enjoy music without paying the association. Hilarity ensues.