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Conflict On Graphic Standards Hurting PC Gaming?
Thanks to GameSpot for their editorial discussing graphics card manufacturers, and how their race for revenue could harm PC gaming. The piece discusses the days when "3dfx's Glide standard was the only thing going", and "3dfx even secured deals with retailers to create separate sections for 3dfx-compatible games." However, the author laments: "I thought hardware-specific games were a thing of the past. Then I booted up the demo for Bridge It", an Nvidia-sponsored title which "will not run unless you have an Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti or GeForce FX graphics card installed." The article ends with a hope that "clearer heads will prevail and PC gaming can take new steps toward improving ease-of-use, not balkanizing the platform for business reasons."
From http://www.chroniclogic.com/bridgeitfaq.htm
Q: Why does Bridge It only run on NVIDIA video cards?
A: Bridge It is a collaboration of three great companies - NVIDIA, Auran and Chronic Logic. As much fun as Bridge It is to play, it was also developed as a great technology showcase for NVIDIA and Auran. Bridge It was designed to utilize NVIDIA hardware and the Auran Jet software to achieve its outstanding visual quality. We would like Bridge It to work on all cards (obviously), but Bridge It was specifically designed as graphics demo to show off NVIDIA graphics cards. Bridge It is based on Chronic Logic's game Bridge Construction Set. Bridge Construction Set has very similar game play as Bridge It and supports all brands of OpenGL video cards, you can check it out here.
Q: What role did NVIDIA, Auran and Chronic Logic each play in the development of Bridge It?
A: Bridge It is the brainchild of Chronic Logic. Bridge It's design is based on Chronic Logic's game Bridge Construction Set. Auran's artists and programmers, armed with the Auran Jet software engine, consulted with Chronic Logic to transform the original Bridge Construction Set into a new gaming experience. NVIDIA joined these two companies together and provided its 3D graphics expertise, as well as moral support, and turned Bridge It into one of the most compelling 3D games on the market today.
Q: How is Bridge It different from Bridge Construction Set?
A: Bridge It is a much more graphic-intense version of BCS. While the gameplay in Bridge It and BCS is similar, the intended audiences for the two games are slightly different. Bridge It was designed with casual gamers in mind and is designed for gamers of all skill levels. BCS is slightly more flexible and challenging and is geared towards the more experienced gamer. Hence, the change of name of BCS to Bridge It (and not BCS 2). See below for more information.
Q: Will your future games require NVIDIA cards?
A: No, Bridge It's graphics are based on technology developed by Auran and NVIDIA. Our current projects are all OpenGL based and will run on all brands of OpenGL cards. They will also support Linux and OSX. However our current projects will look great on NVIDIA cards, because of their excellent developer support.
Q: I understand that Chronic Logic was not involved in the decision to develop Bridge It for NVIDIA cards only. I understand that Chronic Logic did not sell their souls. I understand that without NVIDIA's participation Bridge It would not exist. I understand that serious problems face this world such as wars, nuclear proliferation, world hunger, and Ben and J-Lo's wedding. However I still want to write Chronic Logic and complain about Bridge It (a game developed for NVIDIA) only working on NVIDIA cards. I also want to tell them I will no longer support them by purchasing their products even if I never did (if you have purchased games from Chronic Logic, we appreciate your support very much and feel free to send us your comments). I understand that everyday I purchase products from huge corporations that exploit other humans worldwide while destroying the environment, but I think Chronic Logic is worse and deserves my personal attention. I want to tell Chronic Logic I am so pissed off I won't even support them by pirating their games anymore, what can I do?
A: Then please send your comments to hatemail@chroniclogic.com
Maybe the choice was nVidia only or not at all. Perhaps that was the only way to get the backing to do the project.
Isn't this the whole reason DirectX came along? I remember trying to get games to work in the DOS days, is that what we're reverting to?
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This is a "marketing alliance" at its best, and just rubs me the wrong way.
This whole story should be modded as -1, RTFFAQ.
The game was made primarly as a graphics demo for NVIDIA cards. It makes sense, then, that it should be for NVIDIA cards, no?
From the Bridge It FAQ:
Bridge It was specifically designed as graphics demo to show off NVIDIA graphics cards.
Any developer willing to agree with this kind of needless BS and lock out a whole section of users because they don't have the "preferred hardware", doesn't deserve to have thier crap game played in the first place.
You mean like developers that won't produce games for the Mac?
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It's a game that wouldn't exist without NVidia's financing. That is, and I'll speak slowly, it was paid for by NVidia. It's basically an advertisement for them, disguised as a game. What's the big deal?
NVidia can (and obviously will) do this. ATI can do this. But, really, will any game manufacturer who is not taking money from either ATI or NVidia do this? No. And even if they are taking money from one side, they still won't chop themselves off at the knees in terms of units sold if they've got a marketable game.
There are wrappers to run NVidia's vaunted demos out there on ATI cards (Better too)
The D3D wrapper might make this game playable with few tweaks.
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from someone developing their game in DirectX, thereby making it Windows-only?
Let's let gamers decide which game runs for what system...as they did with 3dfx. No need to whine about it here.
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I think someone did this with the dawn demo and hacked it to work on ATI cards. Is anyone hacking bridge it?
As far as the whole ati vs. nvida thing. Im not suprised that nvidia did this, but if thats the case, bridge it should be reguarded as only an ad and nothing else.
Even more, i've owned cards from both companies. I have found that ati cards although faster, tend to be less stable and more buggy than nvida cards. Other people may have other opinions, thats my experience.
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Valve is only coding HL2 for DirectX. The code that matters, the client, will only be available on Windows.
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Having visited the company's website...
Having downloaded the Video and watched it...
Having downloaded the demo and played it...
All I can say is...... *yawn*
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"You mean like developers that won't produce games for the Mac?".
... or the Gamecube.
Ok, so it's not 'perfect'. I'm a little annoyed with that myself, but @ least you get to pick your card.
Yeah, I don't see the issue either. From the standpoint of this particular small, independend shareware developer this kind of marketing deal makes perfect sense.
And if any of you fellow engineering geeks do have Nvidia cards, I highly recommend this game, and the rest of the series of bridge building games that ChronicLogic produced. Definitely a neat concept for a puzzle game.
(I am not affiliated with Chronic Logic in any way)
flawed logic. macs have what, 10% market penetration in the industry? pc over mac is simply majority rule, whereas with ATI vs Nvidia, we're talking 50/50 or 40/60. if macs had more users, more games would come out for that platform -- and yes, i know its a vicious cycle -- more users means more games means more users etc. but thats just the way it is. by not developing for mac, developers only lose a very small amount of revenue, whereas in contrast, not supporting ATI cards means you are out by 50% sales. ouch.
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ah, but on the other side of the coin you have 10% - 15% of the overall market (not new sales in the past years) who is starved for games. that means that you are practically garnered to sell the game to 5-10% (you have to face facts - you won't sell a copy to every mac user) of the market if you sell it for the mac. if you sell it for windows, there is so choice that your game probably won't be noticed. it's all signal to noise. the mac has very little noise, windows has a ton. (linux has even less noise!)
yes there have been nose dives for the mac (deer hunter anyone?) but there have also been some huge successes (Quake III, the Myst series, any Bungie title, any PopCap title)
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