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Putting Novell's SuSE Purchase In Perspective

An anonymous reader writes " The editors over at NewsForge.com have combined their efforts to put today's big news about Novell's purchase of SUSE in perspective: what the news means in business terms and to the Linux community, today and in the future. A good read that includes quotes from industry insiders, IRC inhabitants, and NewsForge.com readers." Another reader writes "This is a good analysis piece about how Linux has become Novell's lifeline, especially since NetWare's been dying...and post-Ximian."

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  1. The real motivation by faldore · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They acted like it was no big deal, but...

    (from article) "Yes, it was admitted there might be some marketing opportunities caused by Red Hat's recent "end of life" declaration for some of its products."

    My guess is that this has more to do with the decision to buy than they are admitting to.

    1. Re:The real motivation by rushfan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I totally agree that it has to do with RedHat moving away from the home user market. I admit that I loved RedHat's personal Linux, and bought many copies of it (at the stores and from them directly), and never "wasted their time" with support from them. I bought it because I liked supporting them. I haven't looked at SuSE in a while, although I think I will now. I like the "ease of use/install/etc" that the packaged linux distros provided for my work machine (since I'd rather just install linux and have it all work, no need to rebuild a kernel or hack around on it). It was nice and easy. I'm sure fedora will be cool too, however I'm not so sure. I'm definately turned off by RedHat's move, I understand that they want to keep making money, however I feel as unimportant to them as a customer as I do using Windows (which is one of the reasons why I like Linux).

      Anyway, Ximian rocks, and hopefully Novell doesn't loose interest in Linux like they did with so many former purchases.

      Hoping for the best --

      Rushfan

    2. Re:The real motivation by GerryGilmore · · Score: 5, Interesting

      To my mind, there can't be any doubt about it being related to Red Hat. Consider:

      While the average user may not have known about RH's dropping of mainstream Linux (the "hobbyist" version in RH Marketing slides), those closer to the major players have known for many months that this was coming.

      SuSE, not being dummies, must have spotted the tremendous opportunity that this would give them in the North American Linux market.

      All SuSE has to do is to keep a mainstream version alive to keep the market fed for their higher-end versions - as RH *had* been doing, and they have the ability to clean RH's clock for them.

      In case you haven't guessed, I consider RH's move to drop their mainstream versions to be a crucial blunder. But, it's their company......

  2. Is anybody else worried... by wrinkledshirt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is anybody else worried that this might turn into another Corel?

    If Novell's got problems keeping up in terms of IT relevence as it is with its own core product, it could be really nasty if some of that starts to rub off on Suse and Ximian.

    I don't mean to troll. I just liked it better when all these things were separated. I'd rather unification through proper standards (eg: LSB compliance) than through pocketbooks.

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    1. Re:Is anybody else worried... by swordboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Is anybody else worried that this might turn into another Corel?

      Corel died because Microsoft wanted them to.

      Corel had a great plan but, ultimately, management was bought out by Billy.

      People don't seem to be picking up on this. The same thing happened with Apple and OSX right after Steve Jobs dumped every last share in the company (aside from the single "symbolic" share that he did keep).

      Microsoft owns each and every one of us. If they didn't, we'd have seen them split up a long time ago...

      sigh...

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  3. The best decision that Novell could make by micaiah · · Score: 5, Interesting

    About a year ago I was discussing with my friends this very scenario. It was a great decision on Novell's part, probably IMHO the only thing that could allow them to rebound back to the forefront. If they use Linux (open source) as their desktop rather than relying on Microsoft to be fair players they will be able to make a better product for the desktop.

    I remember when people thought of networking they thought of Novell. I took a Win2k class not to long ago and the only people that knew about Netware was myself, one more person, and the instructor. Hopefully that will change with e-directory on the back end and Linux on the desktop. Although any company isn't 100% idealistic, Novell is far more open standard minded than Microsoft will ever be.

  4. Disclaimer? by Lshmael · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What happened to the standard "Newsforge and Slashdot are both part of OSDN" disclaimer that normally appears at the end of items that reference Newsforge articles?

  5. Thoughts by sethadam1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    - If Novell bought Ximian just for Mono, they should open source the Exchange Connector.

    - If Novell intends to still support KDE on SuSE, they should say so quickly.

    - Novell should DEFINITELY keep the desktop distro free. This will be key in infiltration and getting techies involved and informed.

    - Novell should rebrand everything "LinuxWare" in following their NetWare line.

    - NDS on Linux should be a huge priority. A successful, non-piecemeal central authentication system for Linux would be fantastic (yes, I know about PAM + LDAP, etc)

    - A Novell client for Linux (even for 5.x and 6.x) should get official support TODAY.

    - They should learn from the past, and invest in the desktop. That's where they'll sell this to potential customers, as and end to end solution.

    1. Re:Thoughts by bruthasj · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And smash YaST, up2date, APT and Yum with Novell ZENworks! Seriously, ZENworks has got to be the best patch pusher I've ever seen. Viruses? Bah! Sendmail holes? Bah! SSH problems? Bah!

      With a click, 1000 computers get the patch and automatically apply it.

    2. Re:Thoughts by Nat+Friedman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Since Novell purchased us 3 months ago, we have increased our investment in all of our products, using Novell's resources. And we've been aggressive about driving open source and Linux throughout the company.

      Here's a little evidence, all postdating the acquisition by Novell:

      - My notes on our new desktop development center in Bangalore
      - An article from the Times of India about our new developers there
      - The freshly-published (today!) Mono Roadmap showing where we're going with the development platform
      - The first entry in our new Evolution blog, describing the plans for Evolution 2.0, to be released early next year
      - The announcement and wiki for the Brooklyn GNOME developer's summit we are sponsoring this month
      - The announcement that our Exchange connector now supports Exchange 2003

      And this is really just the beginning. As you can imagine, most of the super exciting stuff we are doing is behind the scenes.

      From time to time since we were acquired three months ago I've heard people say things like "Novell bought Ximian just for XYZ," where XYZ has been either: Mono, our Exchange 2000 connector, GNOME, Evolution, Red Carpet, "the name," ...

      I think it should be clear that this is ridiculous.

      Yes, we will still support KDE on SuSE. However, we hope to use this opportunity to provide Linux developers and ISVs with a single stable platform for desktop application development.

      Yes, we will keep the desktop distro free. We will even make things more free than they have been.

      We're only just getting started. Stay tuned.

    3. Re:Thoughts by Karma+Sucks · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We knew that.

      Will the SuSE default desktop be changed?

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  6. More Thoughts by corebreech · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They should also resurrect SuSE's previous efforts in supporting the Power architecture, which more and more appears to be what will be competing with AMD64 (or vice versa.)

    And not only should they keep the desktop distro free, they should create a Live Distro on CD and print up a few hundred million of them and make sure that everybody and their cat has a copy, a la AOL.

  7. There is still a lot of Novell out there.... by MadAnthony02 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are still a lot of Novell users out there, especially among certain groups (education, government, healthcare, law offices). I recently attended a CNA class, and all of the attendees fell into one of those catagories.

    Novell actually has some pretty cool products out there, such as iFolder (syncs data between computers and a server), NetStorage (lets you access network drives from any computer with a web browser), and iPrint (lets users install their own printers via a web browser). They might not have a lot of new users, but they have a lot of old users who have no plans on changing - and they are coming out with some products that are actually pretty good.

    Plus it's nice that our GroupWise email system resists most of those fun Outlook-based viruses.

  8. Re:Confused by pkesel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why don't you go to the Novell site and look at the SEC filings. You'll see exactly where there money comes from and where it goes. Just like any publicly held company, they gotta tell the public.

    No sense speculating. Just do the research. From teh 2002 filing:

    " We managed to maintain large network site-license revenue at $681 million, approximately flat to fiscal 2001"

    "Novell's revenue, including the addition of revenue from recent acquisitions, was up eight percent to $1.13 billion, and cash flow from operations during the year was a positive $51 million. "

    "Cash and short term investments on our balance sheet stood at $636 million at the end of fiscal 2002. Novell had no debt, and total assets were at $1.7 billion."

    From the 10G for 4/2003

    NOVELL, INC.
    CONSOLIDATED CONDENSED BALANCE SHEETS
    April 30, 2003 October 31, 2002
    In thousands, except share and per share data (Unaudited)
    Assets
    Current assets:
    Cash and short-term investments $ 626,397 $ 635,858
    Receivables (less allowances of $32,677 - April 30,
    2003 and $39,676 - October 31, 2002)
    183,672
    214,827
    Prepaid expenses 32,293 24,077
    Deferred income taxes 19,420 21,204
    Other current assets 25,166 23,572
    Total current assets 886,948 919,538
    Property, plant and equipment, net 353,183 369,189
    Goodwill 180,579 179,534
    Intangible assets 30,092 36,351
    Long-term investments 55,603 73,452
    Deferred income taxes 83,791 74,323
    Other assets 12,385 12,678
    Total assets $ 1,602,581 $ 1,665,065
    Liabilities and Stockholders' Equity
    Current liabilities:
    Accounts payable $ 61,007 $ 57,241
    Accrued compensation 78,498 87,778
    Other accrued liabilities 124,337 134,850
    Income taxes payable 28,764 36,294
    Deferred revenue 267,546 275,344
    Total current liabilities 560,152 591,507
    Minority interests 7,841 8,016
    Stockholders' equity:
    Common stock, par value $.10 per share:
    Authorized - 600,000,000 shares;
    Issued -371,295,559 shares-April 30, 2003,
    367,537,926 shares-October 31, 2002 37,130 36,753
    Preferred stock, par value $.10 per share;
    Authorized - 500,000 shares, Issued - 0 shares -- --
    Additional paid-in capital 303,760 297,139
    Retained earnings 698,164 738,663
    Accumulated other comprehensive income 651 57
    Other (5,117) (7,070)
    Total stockholders' equity 1,034,588 1,065,542
    Total liabilities and stockholders' equity $ 1,602,581 $ 1,665,065

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  9. what Nat forgot :) by luge · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's even better than what Nat says ;)

    - for the first time ever, we've been able to open up our Ximian Desktop development process. You can get basically every patch we write on desktop built and applied to GNOME 2.4/2.5 via the xd-unstable channel.

    - if you poke through gnome CVS, we've got skeletal code for a groupwise connector there. Again, something the old novell would never have done- release not only free code, but basically defacto API docs by way of code as well.

    - up until the suse purchase this morning, we actually had a link to gnome.org on the front page of novell.com. Look around for a link to gnome.org on sun's site- it's not on the front page, and it's not in the Java Desktop main page, either.

    So, like I said... it's even better than Nat says it is. :) Of course, I'd be lying if I told you that I can guarantee it'll be perfect going forward- but so far all the signs are very positive for that.

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  10. Re:Confused by GSloop · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Perhaps few people are still rolling out Netware installations, as such seems to be much of the public demand. But I must say, Netware is much more stable than Windows in vitually every situation I've deployed either in.

    A small medical office I did an installation for had the Netware 3.12 box stay up, for around 1260 days. (Nearly *four* years without a single reboot.) It went down the time before that, only because of a four+ hour power outage that the UPS couldn't outlive. It has been up for like 500 days prior to that. So, total unrebooted uptime, was more than five years. Not a single unplanned outage caused by software failure, and no planned outages/crashes either.

    Heck, in 1992-1993 I'd have killed for a Windows box that could file serve for that long without constant prodding and TLC - along with at least weekly reboots.

    Novell's eDirectory is much more mature, IMHO than AD, and their ability to produce a product that simply works well is light years ahead.

    Finally, Novell, perhaps to their harm always was the kind of company that left lots of space for others to develop products along side them. They made a core product, and let others fill in and provide apps around them. This kind of community is crucial IMHO, and the Novell culture, at least in the past, was good at allowing it.

    I think this may be a great match.

    Cheers,
    Greg