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SCO Will Pay You Not to Use Linux
Verteiron writes: "As if things weren't weird enough already, SCO is now planning to pay companies to migrate away from Linux.. even if it's not toward UNIX. According to the summary over at Groklaw, SCO will provide 'financial incentives and discounts' to users that switch to 'other operating systems that have a stronger IP basis than Linux.' This doubly amusing when considered together with the following statements straight from SCO's 8-K form filed with the SEC:
'...plans to expand SCO's intellectual property licensing program to allow for migration alternatives to end users... and continued efforts to protect SCO's UNIX intellectual property rights and SCO's belief that the private investment will enhance SCO's ability to pursue currently pending legal actions... SCO has a history of unprofitability and has only realized revenue from its SCOsource licensing initiative during the last two quarters...'"
Remind me again how much Microsoft "invested" in SCO?
Depending on the sum, I could be convinced to go BSD I suppose...
Or better yet, if they pay me enough to buy an apple.
"The United States has no right, no desire, and no intention to impose our form of government on anyone else." - Bush 05
Nice to see some confirmation finally that SCO is not in the business of selling software, and has only the destruction of Linux as its objective.
This should clear the air a bit and help wake up those poor souls who still think that the SCO Group is some sort of software company, and not a lawsuit factory with a worthless, deprecated UNIX implementation on hand that they're not even developing to any useful degree any more.
And on the speculative front, I'll refuse to be 100% sure that Microsoft and/or Sun are behind SCO's actions until I see some sort of paper trail, but this makes me sure enough.
switch to 'other operating systems that have a stronger IP basis than Linux.'
Good luck finding one. FreeBSD is equal to linux in this regard, and everything else is less.
Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.
Microsoft-funded initiative from SCO?
I *really* hope that IBM either aquires or buries this company. If MS is so overly interested in SCO, isn't there a threat that MS could purchase SCO? What if SCO *wants* to be purchased by MS? What would happen to Linux if MS owned the rights to UNIX? If IBM doesn't aquire them, perhaps RedHat, or Novell... any company other than MS.
That had to be expected. First, they try to scare people away from Linux. No much luck in there, the news are full of people/administrations/companies that switch to Linux.
One positive outcome though, the investment of 50 million fresh new dollars.
Then you can start phase two: Pay people not to use Linux. One thing is sure, the $50M are not going to last long.
Write boring code, not shiny code!
This seems like clear grounds for a class action lawsuit by the shareholders.
There seems to be no business justifiable reason for such an action.
LetterRip
I can't see any sound business reason for SCO to reward organizations to migrate from Linux to Microsoft, or Sun or anything else.
Someone ought to let Darl and Co. know that dictating a grass-roots movement has been tried in the past, and it almost allways fails. The impetus for a grass-roots movement has to come from the people down in the dirt, not the ones above slinging mud at each other.
But, it's just another case of more circus, less bread. How exactly is SCO supposed to verify that a given applicant was a Linux shop? And more importantly, if they do part with any of their Microsof, er warchest, how do they intend to enforce compliance?
Besides, rather than offering cash incentives, you ought to be offering equivalent-value incentives. Just guessing, but I bet SCO could get a pretty attractive price on M$ products to offer folks as cash equivalents which would presumably cost SCO less real money, if only from the volume discount aspect. But anyone who thinks M$ wouldn't make it more lucrative for SCO to tender that kind of deal, well you know who to send your $699 linux license fee to...
"Talk minus action equals nothing" - Joey Shithead, D.O.A.
"Talk minus action equals
...for everyone to believe that this was never about a pump-and-dump stock scheme, but rather a backroom deal by the enemies of the GPL to smear and FUD until CTOs run screaming at the sound of the words "open source".
Fred
"A fool and his freedom are soon parted"
-RMS
I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but...
What possible reason can SCO have for encouraging people to switch over to Windows (as the article indicates they might) unless they are in bed with Microsoft? Has SCO become a front for Microsoft in it's war against Linux? That is a scary prospect, because SCO doesn't care about it's reputation and so can do really nasty things that Microsoft would never get away with on it's own.
This is exactly right. How can a company be profitable by paying people to not use one competitor, but rather use another, unless the dominant market leader is controlling the puppet strings?
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
a) Microsoft buys some stock in the company
b) suddenly SCO starts making extreme anti-Linux propoganda
c) as if from nowhere it starts to flash cash around- "we'll pay you not to use Linux!"
d) ???
e) Make Money!!!!
Or something like that.
Of course Microsoft would never be behind something like this. Um. Because, uh, anyone?
-WolfWithoutAClause
"Gravity is only a theory, not a fact!"Make em bleed! Buy an XBox. That way you can still run Linux and switch to a platform with more IP (whatever they mean by that, since Linux is copyrighted anyways!) That way you can screw SCO and Microsoft altogether. Maybe this is all about getting rid of Sony, or am I taking this too far? ;-)
How is this for an idea:
If you are a company which supports Linux, develops software for use on Linux, or uses Linux in some way, simply offer a discount of - say 25% - for all services related to migrating SCO users from SCO products to Linux.
Next thing to do is write press releases to the local papers telling them about it. You should point out that SCO customers face an uncertain future, since SCO will proably loose its fight with IBM, and will then be taken to court for its actions. You can also describe how SCO's new path is not developing new and better software for you, but simply based on taking advantage of its "IP".
Obviously there are many potential Linux converts out there, and it would be a good idea for Linux companies to compete for those users by offering them discounts to move away from SCO first.
I also believe that companies should cease supporting SCO versions of software - but at the same time offer existing clients a migration path to a more solid platform - such as Linux.
I know the SCO's lack of revenue is hardly a worry to them now, however it will make great news, and possibly make their stock price reflect reality.
Microsoft is allowing, via its "Shared Source Licensing Plan" for companies to take a look at selects portions of the windows source code.
Call me a nut, but I've half a mind to believe that MS is floating this whole SCO mess as a trial balloon, to probe the defenses of the open source community, and plans to have its' own code "stolen" and incorporated into Linux.
That way they can move from a "Cold War" by proxy to a direct attack on Linux and open source.
And more tin foil: who do you suppose might be responsible for the root backdoor that someone tried to slip into the kernel recently...?
-dameronx
SCO is offering _discounts_ on licenses.
Meaning if you switch over to another OS now you don't end up oweing SCO the full license for linux ($699 or something) that they're claiming you now owe. You'll probably just end up oweing a mere $500 (or whatever - even I couldn't stomach reading the details on that in the article).
I have a second sig, I call it sig#2.
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." Napoleon Bonaparte (1769 - 1821)
ssshhhh - Let's make sure they pull out enough rope to hang themselves.
Oh wait, they've already done that.
..... funny thing comes to my mind regarding this (get your tinfoil hat out) ....
....
......
1. Microsoft tells SCO to attack Linux
2. Microsoft tells SCO here's some money keep going
3. Microsoft plots to get the GPL invalidated
4. Microsoft steals Linux's code, gnu's code and puts the "Windows" GUI onto a Linux core, after the needed hooks in the kernel are added.
5. Profit !
6. Linux geeks start a new OS, GNU starts a new license. its the early 90's all over again
7. Goto 1
on second thought maybe not
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." --Albert Einstein
..the entire world looking up from whaetver they are doing for a brief moment and vaguely mumbling:
"what? er.. yeah right - whatever.."
Before installing Linux on another 100 Intel servers, and a z-series.. (try doing that with SCO unix..)
Nobody's listening any more SCO - your outbursts have become so far fetched, you're like the kid that invents ever more unlikely stories to get attention. These guys are like parasites - they no longer create, but are desperate to get a slice of any pie going. Give it up - even if you won every court action from here til the next century - no one will do business with you ever again..
I think we all realise by now that all of this is most likely a bizarre situation engineered to raise cash on SCO shares. Ignore them - they only want attention.
I wonder what SCO has to do that people stop believing them.
"Hey, we have proof that IBM violated our IP, honest!"
"Hey, we have proof that we own all versions of Unix, honest!"
"Hey, we have proof that Linux is just a modified version of Unix, honest!"
"Hey, we pay you a lot of money if you migrate away from Linux, honest!"
Seriously: I think all the "Hey, I'll migrate to FreeBSD and stick it to the man" people here should cancel their E-Mail account immediately because they are in very serious danger of falling for Nigeran scam.
tehdely, when Darl McBride says he wants to launder 10 million, you get 20% and 10% are for "expenses in the transaction", would you also believe it?
The Masters Of The Universe do not want you to be free. Period.
Ergo, Open Source, non-corporate software MUST be destroyed. By whatever means. SCO, whether they realize it or not, (and I suspect they do), exists for the sole purpose of disabling this aspect of humanity.
Waaay back when the first industrial grain grinding mills were being built by the land owners, the town sherif, (i.e., the hired representative of the gentry), would go around and see that all the hand mills in all the peasant households were dragged out and smashed. It was now illegal for people to mill their own corn. What was once free, was now something they HAD to pay for. --All in the best interest of social advancement, of course. The gentry always had a rational-sounding argument, which in the end, just reduced the power of the populace. The the same reasoning is used today in order to shift publically owned utilities over to private and corporate ownership. And many people, (you can witness many examples right here on Slashdot) still believe they are not being lied to. --The argument for competition, being that it creates real incentive to make the best products sounds great except this line of argument ALWAYS leaves out the undeniable reality that when a handful of corporations own everything, it is virtually guranteed that artificial price-fixing WILL take place, and that products will start to decline in quality and effectiveness in such a way that people will need to buy twice as much as before in order to get the same job done. It's all about the elite trying to squeeze an under-educated public into supporting them.
In regard to SCO, nothing has changed since the days of the illegal hand mills, except in the level of sneakiness through which the ends are achieved. SCO's primary purpose, while it is profit motivated, it is not all in the way most people believe it to be. It's much, much bigger, and it's part of a war which has been going on for centuries.
-FL
Don't Faustian bargains usually cost you your immortal soul?
"Freedom means freedom for everybody" -- Dick Cheney
I think you're missing the bigger picture here. SCO isn't trying to sell you a product. They only thing they want you to buy is FUD against a certain product and its license. They could really care less if you happen to buy one of their own products. They are being paid to spread the anti-Linux FUD. Simple as that.
Wasn't sure how to post the message as a link...
"A somewhat more realistic interpretation of "Migration path with
discounts" would go more like this:
1) You already owe SCO money for their IP that you are using in Linux, 2) SCO
knows this was unintentional and says "Hey, we know you didn't mean to
infringe our IP, but you did. Since it was accidental, we'll charge you LESS
if you stop infringing our IP quickly by converting to something that does not
infringe our IP"
Basically extend the licensing that they were already doing:
$699 - Binary license
$599 - License current and prior use of SCO owned Linux IP on one server and
migrate that server to xBSD within 6 months.
$499 - License current and prior use of SCO owned Linux IP on one server and
migrate that server to HP-UX within 6 months
$299 - License current and prior use of SCO owned Linux IP on one server and
migrate that server to Windows 200x within 6 months
The discount is to what you pay THEM, and does not affect what the other vendor
charges you for their OS."
"Contract with SCO, a newly-acquired subsidiary of Microsoft, Inc."
:)
Let's take their money and switch to *BSD
In Soviet America the banks rob you!