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A not-so-Anonymous Coward writes: "During a Sun developer 'chalk talk' Thursday, Joe Keller, Sun vice president of Java Web services, said the company will release a preview of the tool, known as Project Rave, that the Santa Clara, Calif., company introduced at its JavaOne conference in June. Sun has touted Project Rave as a rapid application development tool akin to Microsoft Corp.'s Visual Basic. In fact, Sun had its developers study Visual Basic to a great extent while building the tool, Sun sources said. Sounds like .NET is going to get a run for it's money."
8 steps to greasing your anus for yoda doll insertion
1) defecate. preferably after eating senna, ex lax, prunes, cabbage and hot sauces.
2) wipe ass with witch hazel, soothes horrific burns
3) prime anus with anal ease.
4) slather richly a considerable amount of vaseline or other anal lubricants into your rectum at least until the bend and also take your yoda doll or yoda soap on a rope and liberally apply it.
5) pucker your ballon knot several times actuating the sphincter muscle in order to work it in
6) slowly rest yourself onto your yoda figurine
7) make sure to have a mechanism by which to fish yoda out of your rectum, the soap on the rope is especially useful because that is built in.
8) gyrate gleefully in your computer chair while your fat sexless geek nerd loser fat shit self enjoys the prostate massage you'll be getting. Read slashdot. Masturbate to anime. Email one of the editors hoping they will honor you with a reply. Join several more dating services - this time, you dont check the (desired - speaks english) and (desired - literate). You figure you might get a chance then. Order some fucking crap from Think Geek. Get Linux to boot on a Black And Decker Appliance. Wish you could afford a new computer. Argue that IDE is better than SCSI because you cant afford SCSI. Make claims about how Linux rules. Compile a kernel on your 486SX. Claim to hate windows but use it for Everquest. Admire Ghyslain's courage in making that wonderful star wars movie. Officially convert to the Jedi religion. Talk about how cool Mega Tokyo is. Try and make sure you do your regular 50 story submissions to Slashdot, all of which get rejected because people who arent fatter than CowboyNeal can't submit. Fondle shrimpy penis while making a yoda voice and saying, feel the force, padawan, feeel the foooorce, hurgm. Yes. Yes. When 900 years you reach, a dick half as big you will not have.
All in a days work with a yoda figurine rammed up your ass.
Greased Up Yoda Doll is My Lover
Written & composed by Greasedyoda Jackson
He was more like a beauty queen from a star wars movie scene
I said dont mind getting greased up, but what do you mean I am the one?
Who will grease up on the floor in the round
He said I am the one who will get greased up on the floor in the round
He told me his name was Greased up Yoda, as he caused a scene
Then every purple head turned with eyes that dreamed of being the one
Who will grease up on the floor in the round
People always told me be careful of what you do
And dont go around breaking boys rectums
And mother always told me be careful of who you grease up and shove
And be careful of what you do [in the ass] ?cause the lie becomes the truth
Greased p Yoda is my lover
He's just a "girl" who claims that I am the one
But the kid is my greased up Yoda and my son
He says I am the one, but the kid is my greased up Yoda doll!
For forty days and forty nights
The law was on his side
But who can stand when hez in demand
His schemes and plans
cause we greased up on the floor in the round
So take my strong advice, just remember to always shove it up a greased ass twice
(do shove twice)
He told my baby, we where anally gyrating till 3:00
Then he looked at me, he showed me a photo
My anal lover cried, cause his anus wasnt as wide as mine
People always told me be careful of what you do
And dont go around shoving Greased Yoda Dolls in you ass!
He came and stood right up my ass.
Then the smell of sweet anal fumes
This happened much too soon
He called me to his room
Greased Up Yoda Doll is my lover
Hez just a doll who claims that I am the one
But the greasy anal remnants is my son
Greased Up Yoda Doll is my lover
Hez just a guy who claims that I am the one
But the Yoda doll is my anal toy
He says I am the one, but the Doll is in my ass
He says I am the one, but the Doll is in my ass
Doesn't this conjure up an image of something developed by people that spend all their free time taking Ecstasy and dancing all night to techno music? Doesn't exactly instill confidence in the product, does it? Give me "Project Squaredance" or "Project Hoedown" any day!
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So I (and everyone else) was more skeptical when c#/.net/clr was announced. MS has the advantage of time -- faster machines, more memory -- and they saw what SUN did wrong.
I won't drink the
As for java, the days are numbered. Many companies are now refusing to touch java since MS JVM will be unsupported (I argued with our R/D VP for two hours, I showed him the Sun, IBM, and Blockdown JVM... it didn't matter). Our
Java is resigned to a niche market of server backends. C# might fare better for GUI apps, but not until LongHorn (by which time CPU speed will run it better).
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
I love java, but I'm sick of compiling
This shit looks nice.
Rave is based on NetBeans technology but they don't mention that in the article.
Read Epic the first RPG novel.
# It's hard to live with none of: lexically scoped local functions; a macro system; and inlined functions.
# I really hate the lack of downward-funargs; anonymous classes are a lame substitute. (I can live without long-lived closures, but I find lack of function pointers a huge pain.)
# The fact that static methods aren't really class methods (they're actually global functions: you can't override them in a subclass) is pretty dumb.
# It's far from obvious how one hints that a method should be inlined, or otherwise go real fast. Does `final' do it? Does `private final' do it? Given that there is no preprocessor to let you do per-function shorthand, and no equivalent of Common Lisp's flet (or even macrolet), one ends up either duplicating code, or allowing the code to be inefficient. Those are both bad choices.
# Two identical byte[] arrays aren't equal and don't hash the same. Maybe this is just a bug, but:
* You can't fix this by subclassing Hashtable.
* You can't fix this by subclassing Array because it's not really an object. What you can do is wrap an Object around an Array and let that implement hashCode and equals by digging around in its contained array, but that adds not-insignificant memory overhead (16 bytes per object, today.)
* Gee, I know, I'll write my own hash table. I've only done that a thousand times.
# I can't seem to manage to iterate the characters in a String without implicitly involving half a dozen method calls per character.
# The other alternative is to convert the String to a byte[] first, and iterate the bytes, at the cost of creating lots of random garbage.
# Generally, I'm dissatisfied with the overhead added by Unicode support in those cases where I'm sure that there are no non-ASCII characters. There ought to be two subclasses of an abstract String class, one that holds Unicode, and one that holds 8-bit quantities. They should offer identical APIs and be indistinguishable, except for the fact that if a string has only 8-bit characters, it takes up half as much memory!
* Of course, String being final eliminates even the option of implementing that.
# Interfaces seem a huge, cheesy copout for avoiding multiple inheritance; they really seem like they were grafted on as an afterthought. Maybe there's a good reason for them being the way they are, but I don't see it; it looks like they were just looking for a way to multiply-inherit methods without allowing call-next-method and without allowing instance variables?
# This ``integers aren't objects'' nonsense really pisses me off. Why did they do that? Is the answer as lame as, ``we wanted the `int' type to be 32 bits instead of 31''? (You only really need one bit of type on the pointer if you don't need small conses, after all.)
The way this bit me is, I've got code that currently takes an array of objects, and operates on them in various opaque ways (all it cares about is equality, they're just cookies.) I was thinking of changing these objects to be shorts instead of objects, for compactness of their containing objects: they'd be indexes into a shared table, instead of pointers to shared objects.
To do this, I would have to rewrite that other code to know that they're shorts instead of objects. Because one can't assign a short to a variable or argument that expects an Object, and consequently, one can't invoke the equal method on a short.
Wrapping them up in Short objects would kind of defeat the purpose: then they'd be bigger than the pointer to the original object rather than smaller.
# And in related news, it's a total pain that one can't iterate over the contents of an array without knowing intimate details about its contents: you have to know whether it's byte[], or int[], or Object[]. I mean, it is not rocket science to have a language that can transparently access both boxed and unboxed storage. It's not as if Java isn't doing all the requisite runtime type checks already! It's as if
The classic essay on "worse is better" is either misunderstood
Is a drag and drop editor for Java Server Faces.
THey are doing a Direct To DB binding as well.
Something like this has been neede for a long while, let's just hope that once something is developed in Rave, it can be integrated with other tools (straight Java code) while allowing the people Using Rave to continue to update as well.
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How frequently do you leave your moms basement?
See the subject. Seriously, what does Project Rave give me that standard J2EE technologies don't already?
.NET?
Or are they talking a new IDE? Something to compete with Visual Studio
If so, I hope it's not based on NetBeans...
*shudder*
"Times have not become more violent. They have just become more televised."
-Marilyn Manson
Could Sun finally have seen the light? Back in 1999, Sun purchased an Enterprise Software company called Forte Software. Forte (not to be confused with the Netbeans rebrand) was an application suite which achieved what J2EE achieves now - but completely painlessly.
All of the plumbing was hidden from developers, leaving them free to concentrate on business logic. Forte shipped with a complete Application Framework and its own language the Transactional Object Oriented Language(TOOL).
Basically (to cut a long story short) Java looked as if it had more potential at the time, so Forte was rebranded to Sun ONE Unified Development Server and allowed to wither. It's officially being end-of-lined by Q1 next year.
The point here is that this Project Rage seems very much like Unified server - but it works in Javaland. It (hopefully) hides all the plumbing of a J2EE application from developers, allowing them to concentrate on business logic. If it's more than Suns version of Eclipse, then it'll certainly be a product to watch. I hope Sun get it right this time and that it's not too late.
Where this leaves IBM and Weblogic remains to be seen - unless this Rage integrates with their app servers. It ought to - seamlessly of course...
:)
I don't get it. What does this one have that JBuilder hasn't had for about five years? Or am I missing something?
Is this to be under a GPL type of license ( or that sun community license thingy ) or will it be 100% commercial and priced out of reach of us amateurs?
They opened Netbeans when they bought it.. Speaking of which, i suppose this means the death of sun contributed items to NB.
Id like to see something like this for Python personally as current python IDE's are dismal.... But at least java is platform independent so its still potentially cool...
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Mod DOWN!!!
This doesn't look like it'll be replacing .NET or VB anytime soon. It looks like an IDE for JSP-based sites, not something that will replace VB as a quick-n-dirty IDE for end-user apps nor will it be anything like .NET, which goes far beyond one language and one way of doing things, as Java+Sun provide.
But then again, it's not out, I've not used it, so I can't say that for sure. It looks like an equivalent to an ASP-builder, which can use VBScript.
Java the language could not simply out-VB VB. The language itself is too complicated in ways that will not be solved by a GUI builder. Java could be used as the platform for a language and IDE akin to VB, but taking Java the language and adding an IDE will not make many VB coders productive without doing all the learning of Java that any other Java coder has gone through.
Working toward a usable PDA environment in the spirit of Newton OS: Dynapad
Congradulations. You've succeeded.
I've been using Eclipse for about a year for some large J2EE projects, and I've been very happy with it. I had been using JBuilder since version 2 (!), and switched over when the price suddenly became an issue (my employer folded). I've really come to depend on the refactoring support, which is why I can never understand the diehards who refuse to use an IDE.... I always use the latest milestone release (they've all been very stable). IDEA is also well-known as a good refactoring IDE, though I haven't used it due to the price. I tried out NetBeans some time ago (2-3 years ago?) and wasn't fond of it, though I haven't been back to re-evaluate it.
One thing -- if you ever need to get into building Java GUIs, JBuilder still has the best RAD GUI designer that I've seen, in terms of generating sensible code that you can tweak by hand (within limits), and then use the designer again. GridBagLayout code was never intended to be hand-written! I don't spend much time with Java GUIs anymore, but when I need to I always do the initial cut in JBuilder (the Personal version is free).
There are only 10 types of people: those who understand decimal, those who don't, and, uh, 8 other types I forget.
For J2EE, try Eclipse plus the "MyEclipse Enterprise Workbench" plugins. They do a pretty good job of integrating lots of other open-source J2EE plugins into something that's easy to maintain. And at $30/year it's hard to beat.
You, my friend, have obviously never had the "pleasure" of working with Forte.
I have actually - two years worth back in 1997 through 1999 for a CRM company in the UK.
I agree that by mordern standards the IDE is dated - but I disagree strongly about everything apart from app partitioning being an "amateurish piece of shit". In fact, in my experience, I'd have to say the exact opposite. The whole thing was so tightly integrated that everything just worked.
Ok, so we ran into some problems with repository corruptions and a few integration issues, but these were easily surmountable in the first instance by making regular backups and usuing a versions of FTEXEC which were known not to have showstopping bugs and in the second by simple management.
Not sure what your performance issues were, but we quickly discovered that in order to make the app scale to the 200+ desktops it was to run on, we had to implement a seemingly convoluted design pattern using DataFactories, Data Access Controllers and a mechanism for managing the database connections and minimising network traffic.
We also had to provide object level transaction management - easily impemented using inheiritance and interfaces.
From what I remember, if the application wasn't designed to be efficient, then you would see problems if you tried to scale it beyond 5 - 10 machines.
From a language standpoint, the "plumbing" was indeed hidden from you. It was absurdly easy to talk to objects cross process or cross machines
Exactly. This is the lesson I'm hoping Sun has learned with this Rave product. Unfourtanately, currently, to produce really efficient J2EE apps requires knowledge of how the EJBs etc work.
BTW, it's nice to meet someone on slashdot who knows that Forte isn't Netbeans!
I think we're heading to a world where all kernel-space code (on your favorite kernel) is C/C++, and all user-space code is, as you put it, managed code: VM, .NET, or others (e.g., a good open source Smalltalk VM.
Hate to give Microsoft credit, but if they succeed in delivering the vision of Longhorn they recently articulated, then Microsoft may push the industry into this model.
> Give me "Project Squaredance" or "Project Hoedown"
> any day!
Doesn't this conjure up an image of a bunch of hyperactive code cowboys furiously coding at the keyboard and changing seats every few minutes?
No thanks. Code cowboys can really mess up a team, and hyperactive hypercaffienated programmers can drive you *CRAZY* changing arguing and changing subjects every few seconds before you have time to respond.
No thanks. Give me a nice boring "Project Rhumba" or "Project Salsa" or even "Project Disco" any day!
One of the biggest reasons new programmers get hooked on VB is the ease of doing GUIs (while most other languages you are exposed to in school make GUIs look like some kind of spanish inquisition), if you can replicate that expierence in a more robust language, then you'll see VB dropped like a plague ridden swamp rat carcass.
Fortunately I had a Java teacher that made it a point to show us how non-impossible GUI programming can be. But in almost every other langauge I was taught, it was all CLI based examples. You may have seen one example of a windows app, but the subject was kept out of scope.But when you start looking at VB, right away you are making things that are more like real programs than "hello world" examples. It seems to me that there's no reason that in the world of resuable code that a similar expierence could not be produced using true OOP languages.
I was hopeing for something like that when I picked up MS C++Free Mac Mini Yeah, it's