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Traveling Jobs in IT?

wed128 asks: "I am currently a freshman at Penn State University, studying for a Computer Engineering degree. However, I look at the graduates ahead of me and many of them are cubical warriors. This doesn't really bother me, however i'd like to see the world before being confined to a cube for the rest of my life. Are there any jobs in an IT field where I can travel? How would I go about getting the right contacts regarding this? I have 4 years till graduation, so this isn't a direct plea for a job..."

103 comments

  1. Cruise ships by Violet+Null · · Score: 2, Informative

    This doesn't help you. I'm just reminiscing.

    My first job was maintenance programming systems for cruise ships -- passenger manifest, inventory, personnel, etc.

    The system was a mess, written in a hodgepodge of languages. The accounting portion, being the most egregious offender, was written in Basic 2.0; that is, y'know, when it required line numbers and didn't have the concept of a subroutine (though you could define one-line functions. W00t.)

    The pay was shit, too.

    But, on the other hand, I did get to see the world. Best trip ever was two weeks in Australia, aboard the Silver Wind -- one of the ultra luxury ships where a two week package can run $5-10k. Other times, you end up for two weeks in drydock in Malta, which isn't so much fun.

  2. not as a student by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    seriously - you're not gonna get much travel as a student. even the experienced professionals rarely get to travel, so any trips would immediately go to them without consideration of the intern. your best bet is to save up some cash on your own and use your vacation time to travel around.

    1. Re:not as a student by nathanm · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's possible to travel plenty as a student. I traveled 3 out of 4 summers as a college student. This is a great way to combine vacation and get college credit at the same time.

      It wasn't cheap though. I had to use a combination of scholarships and financial aid. If you're resourceful, you'll find a way to raise enough money.

      I only traveled for 4-6 weeks each trip, but they were great experiences. If my schedule was more flexible, I would've studied abroad for a semester or entire academic year.

  3. lots of opportunities... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most large companies have jobs like what you're seeking. Presales engineers usually go out to customer sites and help install and debug installations. Field-service engineers travel to customer sites to debug on-site customer problems.

    These types of jobs require an awareness of computer issues, but not so much programming as problem-solving.

    However, you trade your cubical for lots of travel and 14-hour days in customer machine rooms.

    1. Re:lots of opportunities... by MaggieL · · Score: 1
      However, you trade your cubical for lots of travel...

      • CUBICLE!

      A "cubical warrior" is a warrior shaped like a cube.

      Geez.
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    2. Re:lots of opportunities... by passthecrackpipe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, but that isn't really "travelling" as in "seeing lots of places", more like seeing lots of airports and taxis, and customer machine rooms. trust me, a machine room in London looks exactly like a machine room in paris, and all airports look the same these days.

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    3. Re:lots of opportunities... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yes, but you don't spend all your time in the machine room. Typically, there is an overnight stay. That give you some time.

      Also, most companies have no problem with you extending your stay Friday to Sunday. Air fares typically fall with a Sat. stay, and most companies will pick up your hotel if the cost nets out equal or lower overall.

      You can do alot in a weekend, if you're organized and motivated.

    4. Re:lots of opportunities... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ... a machine room in London looks exactly like a machine room in paris ...
      Oh, I dunno. Worked at one place in Paris where the main machine room looked like it had never been cleaned for years, there was so much dust lying around. Saw an engineer there pull a heavy power cable up over one wing of the mainframe to get it somewhere else. This was years ago, when mainframes had big panels covered with little lights and switches. Trailing end of the power cable swung against panel ('engineer' hadn't bothered to pull the protective glass window across it). Few seconds later, 'engineer' Engineer reappears around wing of mainframe with a puzzled 'why have all the printers and tape drives suddenly stopped working' look on his face.

      Somehow, the incident seemed very French.

    5. Re:lots of opportunities... by Mattygfunk1 · · Score: 1
      Exactly. One of my friends working for herself goes to major cities every few weeks just to get work done.

      She does not need to go for work, but if she is in another state without distractions then she gets heaps more done, pays for her trip with the extra productivity, and parties in clubs she has never been to.

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  4. Consultant by BoomerSooner · · Score: 2, Informative

    Go work for a large consulting firm with offices world wide. Prove your worth and you'll travel all over the place. Just hope you don't meet "miss right" in college and decide you don't want to travel. You're just a freshman, why worry this early about something you want now but may not want in 3-4 years from now?

    Give yourself options, you'll be glad you did. Oh, learning another language or two can help.

    1. Re:Consultant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or more likely, meet Miss Right while you're on the road.

      You're more likely to meet her because you're out of your element, more likely to get out and more receptive to human contact.

      Then you'll be hoping to travel to see her -- but probably be sent elsewhere! ;)

    2. Re:Consultant by PD · · Score: 1

      Or meet a couple of Miss Rights, just like the famous road warrior Charles Kuralt.

    3. Re:Consultant by drix · · Score: 1

      Probably because he's considering doing what I did freshmen year: dropping out of CS/EE completely because I didn't want to spend 60 hrs/wk of the best years of my life staring at some screen. I took up a humanities major, went and studied abroad for more than a year, read books, picked up a few instruments, and in short emerged from college a completely different and more well-rounded person than if I had kept my nose to the engineering grindstone for 4 straight years. All things I never would have been able to do otherwise.

      And the funny thing is I still work as a programmer and am (very) gainfully employed! It's not what I want to do with my life, but it helps pay the bills until I finish up my majors and go to grad school or Peace Corps or whatever. Just a small message of hope out there for those who are convinced working in IT entails some huge life sacrifice. It doesn't necessarily. Better yet it's sage wisdom for all those college freshmen I see these days who arrive with a life-plan that they have mapped out since age 8...

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  5. Traveling Techies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Large corporations have their own IT staff (but many are out sourcing lately...)

    Most of the people in IT who travel are either desktop support or engineering folks. The travel is pretty much for a year and only during rollouts. i.e. rolling out 15,000+ new computers to all of a companies employees.

    Those that do this sort of rollout generally rack up the frequent flyer miles to the point that they always upgrade to first class and they always travel free for vacation. Of course that means in the peak of the travel session you will be home once or twice a week if you are lucky. Try 4 times a month to see your significant other...

    Other jobs where you travel would be consulting gigs where you are *THE* expert and you need to go all over the place to save other peoples bacon and for the privilege of having a *specialist* flown in, the customer will pay BooKoo bucks! But as a recent graduate you can kiss this sweet job goodbye because these are rather rare positions and only earned through years of hard work.

    Those who say they love travel will hate it after a few months! Dealing with airports, car rental, and hotels can truly suck over time.

    Fresh out of school? Want to see the world? Try being a missionary IT guy and go to Africa and other remote locals to setup networks for the locals. This is about as smart as joining the US Navy to "See the World" and ending up on a submarine for 6 months at a time underwater!

    1. Re:Traveling Techies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, sub service isn't really a bad way to go, particularly right now. I spent four years on a fast boat, and visited over 30 countries in that space. Has it's downside, but you do get some opportunities.

  6. Military by Blackknight · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, there's always the Navy. They're always looking for skilled people willing to server.

    1. Re:Military by itwerx · · Score: 1

      Military is a good idea but I would recommend USAF simply because
      A - it looks better on a resume'
      B - they have a wider variety of systems
      C - you don't risk getting stuck on a ship (though you might end up in Omaha, NE or Thule, AL or somesuch :)

    2. Re:Military by gremlin_591002 · · Score: 1

      Or, the State Department. Travel to cubicles all over the world. The first few years tend to be really crappy posts (African Embassies). But at least if you are working at the Embassy, there is a good chance you can get out by helicopter when the local despot starts killing people.

    3. Re:Military by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Having worked with a wide variety of USAF systems, and a somewhat smaller variety of Navy systems, I'm not sure that there's any reason to believe one service has a wider variety of systems than another. (Disclaimer: I wasn't a techie at the time, I was a medic, so I wasn't paying any more than an interested layman's attention to the details.) I'm also not at all sure that either looks better on a resume than the other -- both the AF and the Navy have pretty high-tech reputations. (Army and Marines might be harder to convince people, which really isn't fair, but ...) In any case, yes, the service -- any branch -- will give you all kinds of travel opportunities, some you've never even had nightmares about. Trust me on this.

      An interesting kind of step in the opposite direction, especially if you've got a bit of a talent for fundraising, is geekcorps. Actually, in some ways, it's probably pretty similar to being in the service: in a matter of a day or so, you could find yourself whisked away from 21st c. America to someplace just out of the stone age, and you've got to deal with it. But the mission's rather different.

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    4. Re:Military by DukeLinux · · Score: 1

      I joined the Navy. As I anticipated, they put me on a ship and sent me all over the world. Since you are getting a computer engineering degree you may want to consider this as a career since you probably won't have one with anything related to computers or engineering. I have an engineering degree, a P.E. license and an M.S. in computers from Drexel (just down the road from you a bit) and I am considering buying a Rita's Water Ice :).

    5. Re:Military by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, yea, the Air Force - because you get to pick what you want to do... I call bull... The USAF doesn't let you pick, they put you where they need you, just like the Navy and Marines. Besides, they try to sell everyone as a Pilot and we all know that isn't the case.

      Roommate is in the Navy as one of their system admins for a ship. Needless to say, they're extremely overstaffed in IT at the moment. Normally there are 1, MAYBE 2 guys on a ship at a time (depending on size) to work on specific systems. Right now, there are about 4-7 on each ship. He spends most of his days playing play station.

      Marines - you can't pick and they actually run the oldest of the old out there. They are usually the last ones to update anything.

      Army, they let you pick but there is a downside. Only certain MOS's (jobs) give you what you want. The general IT jobs are crap jobs in the US, there is no travel with that particular job.

      Honestly, having been around the military all my life, not to mention getting married to someone in the military, I wouldn't recomend it. Its not too geek friendly. Old systems that hardly work and no funds to upgrade them. The only neat stuff is the encryption stuff and good luck getting right into that.

      Your best bet is to look at the defense contractors. Believe it or not, the military actually needs onsite technical support. You could end up anywhere in the world for around 6 months for free.

    6. Re:Military by Thu+Anon+Coward · · Score: 1

      3 things
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      1) NAVY - Never Again Volunteer Yourself (been there, done that, got out damn quick)

      2)when you're out at sea on maneuvers, FOR WEEKS/MONTHS at a time, you are on duty FULLTIME...including weekends and generally about 14 hours a day

      3) you've obviously never been in the service if you failed to point out 1 and 2 above

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    7. Re:Military by sharkey · · Score: 1
      They're always looking for skilled people willing to server.

      Don't you mean "sever"?

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  7. Maybe when the economony picks up again? by ubiquitin · · Score: 1

    Most if not all of the traveling tech jobs I was aware of disappeared around 9/11/01.

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    1. Re:Maybe when the economony picks up again? by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      I'd say the economy was already going downhill.

      The business/investment press seems to really like being able to latch onto pat causes of market shifts.

      9/11 makes a great cause, and the US government has no problem with 9/11 being blown up even bigger than it was -- it makes for a great political tool.

  8. Pre-sales engineer by -dsr- · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you have or can develop people skills -- presentations, answering questions, talking without stuttering, explaining complex technical subjects to your Mom -- then you may want to look into sales engineering.

    A sales engineer has a few important functions: uphold the technical reputation of the company, find solutions to customer problems, and keep the salescritters honest. (Bad sales engineers destroy the company's rep, push the most expensive products even when there's a better cheaper solution, and care only about their salescritters' quarterly numbers. That's a short-term ticket to wealth, followed by the death of your company.)

    1. Re:Pre-sales engineer by skkeeter · · Score: 1

      So far this year I have seen Guayaquil Ecuador, Amsterdam, Mexico City, Helsinki, and countless US cities as a pre-sales engineer. It is important to work for an international company though. Since you are usually working with customers, you dont skimp on expenses during your travels. Some positions will travel more than others but if you want to travel, the opportunity is usuall there.

      Sales engineering is like getting a new set of Lego's every few weeks, playing with them and then building something to make a customer happy.

    2. Re:Pre-sales engineer by dagnabit · · Score: 1

      I second everything the original poster said... when I was first hired at Cobalt, I thought I wanted to be in tech support. I was "talked into" being an SE, and it was definitely the right choice for me.

      Make sure you end up selling a product you can believe in. It's hard to show the required enthusiasm pimping something you don't particularly care about...

      There's a lot of repetition - makes you want to just email an FAQ to the customer before you even get there... but there are always the ones that will stump you, and you get to see new ways people will try to use products... many not as they were ever intended by the product development team!

      Oh yeah, and some of the best (paid, that is) "sales guys" I've run into were SEs first. Most of them moved into pure sales because they wondered why they weren't getting the big $$ when they were doing all the work on the account.

  9. You will have to work to not travel. by (H)elix1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This doesn't really bother me, however i'd like to see the world before being confined to a cube for the rest of my life. Are there any jobs in an IT field where I can travel?

    You have got to be kidding me. Join most any company that has a significant consulting services or sales branch, and it is easy to see the world. Within the next six weeks I'll hit cities in four continents.... Surprisingly, the view is about the same as a cube. A card table if the client planned ahead, a hotel every nigh where you spend the rest of the evening making magic, and eating at whatever restaurant is nearby. I know where the plane is on some international flight just by the snack cart shuffling about.

    There was a point - travel is easy. If you want to spelunk the world and enjoy it, better to do it as a vacationer than trying to 'see the world' after a shift is done. I saw more of Europe backpacking on the cheap in college than I have 'commuting' back and forth.

    As a bonus, make sure you pick a career that affords you the purchasing power to see the world. Air and hotel miles are a brutal way to do it... (grin)

    1. Re:You will have to work to not travel. by PD · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I disagree completely. I travel between 20% and 40% of my time in any given year, and I've seen many things that I wouldn't have bothered to see otherwise.

      You will as often find yourself in Lizard Lick, North Carolina as you find yourself in Paris, France. The difference is that while you might go to Paris for a vacation, you'll never to to Lizard Lick on your time off.

      But if you make it a point to dig up something interesting no matter where you are, you will always be able to tell stories about that time you were stuck in Lizard Lick. Every place you visit has something interesting to see. If you rely on a big sign and a line of people with cameras and big hats to find something interesting, you'll hate it. If you can talk to people and don't mind walking out of your hotel with the goal of seeing something before you know what it is you will see, you'll like it.

      You may not be able to backpack your way down the Appalachian Trail on a business trip, but there's plenty of other ways to see cool things in Virginia if you're sent there.

    2. Re:You will have to work to not travel. by (H)elix1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Forgive the bitterness... I've been on the road 80-90% since spring. As a father and husband, traveling the world lost much of its glamour. I say goodbye to my family again in a few hours.

      I suspect we are in agreement, however. Seeing the world is a state of mind, rather than being a tourist or worker bee abroad.

    3. Re:You will have to work to not travel. by sql*kitten · · Score: 1

      I saw more of Europe backpacking on the cheap in college than I have 'commuting' back and forth.

      True. I've worked in every major financial center from Chicago to Frankfurt. All the airports, hotels, taxis and meeting rooms and the people in them look the same. Sometimes it got to the point where if I had vacation time, the last thing I wanted to do was jump on a plane to somewhere!

      I travel less for work now, but more for fun, and I can say from experience that an office job is fine, if it means you can afford to do travel properly in your vacation time.

    4. Re:You will have to work to not travel. by drudd · · Score: 1, Insightful

      So why are you spending time reading/posting to slashdot instead of spending it with your family?

      Doug

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    5. Re:You will have to work to not travel. by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

      I know there is, I live there.

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    6. Re:You will have to work to not travel. by PD · · Score: 0, Troll

      Why should I not post to Slashdot? I go to sleep much later than my wife does. Sorry that my life doesn't conform to your ideals. Give me your phone number and I'll call you next time I want to wipe my ass.

      MODERATE ME +1 MYOB.

    7. Re:You will have to work to not travel. by (H)elix1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So why are you spending time reading/posting to slashdot instead of spending it with your family?

      Same reason I browse and post from work... because I needed a break.

      You spend thirty minutes helping a 4.5 year old practice 'twinkle, twinkle little star' on a violin, and all parties need some down time afterwards. It is all about choices - for me it's good compromise to hang out in the living room with a wireless connection while she watches House of Mouse.

    8. Re:You will have to work to not travel. by raju1kabir · · Score: 1
      You have got to be kidding me. Join most any company that has a significant consulting services or sales branch, and it is easy to see the world. Within the next six weeks I'll hit cities in four continents.... Surprisingly, the view is about the same as a cube. A card table if the client planned ahead, a hotel every nigh where you spend the rest of the evening making magic, and eating at whatever restaurant is nearby. I know where the plane is on some international flight just by the snack cart shuffling about. There was a point - travel is easy. If you want to spelunk the world and enjoy it, better to do it as a vacationer than trying to 'see the world' after a shift is done. I saw more of Europe backpacking on the cheap in college than I have 'commuting' back and forth.

      Depends on the job, schedule, destinations, and your personality, I guess, but I find that work trips offer opportunities for much deeper exploration of a foreign place than I usually get as a tourist.

      Spending time working side-by-side with people, you talk about all sorts of things. Get to know them and you'll have invitations to visit homes, meet families, go on weekend trips, and so on. This means traveling like a local, eating true local delicacies, and visiting places not in any guidebook.

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    9. Re:You will have to work to not travel. by kiwimate · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Agreed. It sounds glamorous to anyone who's not actually doing it, and, in truth, it can be a lot of fun. The fun begins to tail off when (i) you've been doing it for months, and/or (ii) you have a family at home.

      The breaking point for me, when it finally ceased to be so much fun, was when I spent two months living in the same hotel room in Sydney, Australia, and wasn't flying home for the weekends. On the plus side I got to see a lot of the area; on the minus side, living in the same hotel room for anything past about four weeks is not pleasant.

      So jobs changed, I stopped travelling so much, and then a few years down the track found myself living in the States, newly married, and was on a major project where I would get up early Monday morning, travel to New York, live there in a hotel room for a week, come home Friday night. Spend the weekend with my wife, lather, rinse, repeat ad nauseam for several months. I got to hate going to New York, and never wanted to go there on a vacation because, to me, it was just where I went to work. I never got to see anything because I'd start work early in the morning, be working after hours a lot of the time, and by the time you get back to the hotel all you want to do is have dinner and relax for a few hours before going to bed. By the way, it can be really depressing eating in a restaurant night after night by yourself, but you need a break from room service sometimes.

      I'm extremely lucky in that my wife grew up with a father who also travelled extensively and so knew what to expect, and (most importantly) had seen how wearing it was on her father and knew that it just wasn't as much fun as it appeared to be. One of my colleagues, on the other hand, was married to a woman who used to get very envious as she saw him always travelling to different locations and eating in hotels and thought he was having a great time, not realizing just how draining and depressing it can be.

      If you're going to do it, do it while you're young. Do it before you're married and have a family. I'm no longer travelling; as soon as we decided to start a family, I found a new job where I specifically wouldn't have to travel and could pretty much count on coming home every night to see my daughter.

      I'm glad to have had the opportunity; I got to see a lot of places, and it was a great way to see more of the U.S. when I moved here and experience the differences in culture throughout the country (yes, there's a big difference between Georgia and New Hampshire). And I'm very glad now to have the luxury of being home almost every night at a reasonably predictable hour; heck, just being able to go home on a weeknight, rather than having to try and have a family two days out of seven.

  10. Two Words by Seraphim_72 · · Score: 2, Interesting



    Peace Corps


    yeesh - that was easy = next?

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    1. Re:Two Words by wholcomb · · Score: 1

      Seriously though. I am an ICT (Information and Communications Technology) PCV in Mauritania, West Africa. I am working with a Cisco Academy teaching networking at the university.

      (The Cisco Academies are a part of the UN's Least Developed Countries (LDC) iniative.)

      I joined the PC and will be getting my CCNA (and CCAI) soon free of charge. Definitely didn't expect that when I signed up.

      My living conditions aren't quite what they were back home, but I like the work I am doing and I am definitely getting to see some interesting things.

      There is a certain about of need for tech expertise in the developing world. My project for the day was showing the admin guy at the university how to repartition his linux systems, install xp and fix grub after xp killed it.

      It is also possible that in three years we will be seeing an expansion of the Digital Freedom Iniative (DFI) which would provide additional tech opportunities in the developing world.

  11. Multinational companies by ziggyboy · · Score: 1, Informative

    My father worked and retired as an IT executive in a large multinational company. He got to travel at least once every 4 months or so to one of the key cities in the US and Asia, occassionally he'd go to Europe. However right before he retired, the company has been cutting down on IT personnel in favor of outsourcing IT services.

  12. Any big company by duffbeer703 · · Score: 2, Informative

    IBM Global Services, any consulting company and most "enterprise" software companies.

    If you get into implementing SANs, deploying apps like Tivoli or SAP, or something highly specialized, you'll get to travel.

    Hint: Ask any travelling consultant how they like travelling -- they don't. One of my colleagues had to fly from Virginia to Oregon for staff meetings... it sucks.

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    1. Re:Any big company by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      > One of my colleagues had to fly from Virginia to Oregon for staff meetings... it sucks.

      --Geez, haven't those people ever heard of videoconferencing? Or TELEPHONE conferencing, for Godsake?? What a waste of time and money.

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    2. Re:Any big company by jdevore · · Score: 1

      I was a consultant for Sun and I loved doing it. I would return to it in a heart beat if I had the opportunity, for Sun, IBM, or any one else that had a position available.

  13. If you like traveling, then this is for you! by saden1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I happen to know that The Naval Research Facility is hiring network and system engineers. These guys do a lot of traveling since they have contracts with and support the US Navy. They are all over the place (Hawaii, Norfolk, Japan, Italy, etc) installing equipment and such in Navy ships.

    Word of caution, traveling sucks after a while...the first few times it is cool but after that you will hate it. I don't know about most people but I don't like flying every week a day flying to a destination and another day flying backs from it.

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    1. Re:If you like traveling, then this is for you! by aminorex · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, travel the world, meet interesting
      people, and kill them.

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    2. Re:If you like traveling, then this is for you! by the_brat_king · · Score: 1

      That's the Marines!

  14. A GREAT job by LePrince · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Try this : Cirque du Soleil. I work there, but in the International HeadQuarters in Montreal, so I don't travel. But it's a GREAT company, that treats its employees really well and pays a decent salary. And there are of course travelling jobs, with the many tours (Quidam, Saltimbanco, Alegria, Varekai and Dralion). As a matter of fact, the Dralion tech is a good friend of mine... Of course, I don't get to see him much. :-P But beware, these jobs aren't available often, because the techs love their job, so we don't get many departures...

    There are also some "fly-in" jobs that are based in Montreal, and I believe there are some too in Vegas and Amsterdam. Check it out ! :-)

  15. First things first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Survive Penn State Engineering

  16. Computer Engineering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Computer Engineering != IT.

    Look for a real job.

  17. Work from home by Greener · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a friend I met while travelling who works from home for RedHat. He managed to persuade his bos shat since he was working from home why couldn't he move his home around. He then spent 3 months travelling across the US on a moter bike, 3 months living in Scotland, a month in Egypt, 4 months in Australia (where I met him) and 3 weeks in South East Asia. He still put in a full day's work and uploaded his code every day by taking his laptop to an internet cafe.

    1. Re:Work from home by Stone316 · · Score: 1

      Bosses who let you work from home are rare these days and even those that do, i'd be surprised if I ever met one that would let me travel like that. That boss is 1 in a million or your friend is critical to their company.

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  18. Geek Corps by himynameisbrak · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I will follow up the other two mentions of the Peace Corps or similar outfits with a plug for the Geek Corps.

    I haven't done it yet, but I am interested in doing it sometime perhaps a few years from now. The stipend is minimal, but you will get to see a part of the world you normally wouldn't.

    It will give you an appreciation for the opportunities you have here in this country. You will have a much better perspective on the world and it will make you a better person for it. You will suddenly stop caring so much about having the latest video game system and start volunteering your time and donating to charities. The words "digital divide" take on a whole new meaning...

  19. telecommute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a job where you have to spend none or a limited time physically in office. A job like that isn't easy to find though. I started working for a company in the UK about 3 years ago, spent the first 6 months in the office building up the bosses confidence in me etc. After that I moved to the US, and has since worked remotely.
    Bottom line though, is that I can go wherever in the world as long as I can access the internet. Works great for me!

  20. ISO standards! by andrewleung · · Score: 2, Interesting

    work the standards "circus". you get to travel to meet face to face to discuss technical issues on a standard. meet with other engineers in the same field/expertise, etc.

    at this point in your life, you can get "in" with standards committees by doing a LOT of free work for it and presenting proposals and results. the university would pay for it and you can hook up with professionals in the field for a job that would be about the same...

    do some work, travel to present results (usually in very nice locales...), rinse and repeat.

    work that for a bit and you'll have more air miles than you know what to do with. especially since you've hit a lot of cool places already.

    just be careful of getting stuck in the standards "circus"...

    some good ones: ISO MPEG... ISO JPEG...

    good luck!

    1. Re:ISO standards! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no ... We are actually involved in this, I am at a pretty large European university and we are working on the MPEG4 standard.

      Yes, you get to travel. Or better said, your boss and some middle-level administrative execs do. Meetings in Singapore, Hong-Kong, Hawai and such. Nice. But the MPEG4 stuff is such crap, that you really wouldn't like to do it. Did you ever see the full specs ? I did. It is a pretty huge folder, there is much more to it than video and audio compression, but the rest is never implemented because it is useless. And did I mention corporate politics ?

      There are wastly better ways of travelling, than going to MPEG meetings, believe me.

  21. Education by Jmstuckman · · Score: 3, Informative

    You might want to try to work for a large company and get into customer education. Many of our instructors travel around the world, delivering education to customers on using our server software.

  22. Two Words:- by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1
    (Out of town) Internships (and) Conferences.

    Trust me, you have an infinite oppurtunity to experience the world as a student if a) you look out for oppurtunities, b) you're willing to work and c) not lament on crazy things such as working (on paper submissions for example) on weekends, ie, set your own performance metrics and achieve them.

    Don't be disheartened by all this talk of economic downturns; not that difficult to travel around the world EVEN NOW without burning holes in your pocket.

    (Saying this as someone who got paid to represent my university in an East Asian country)

  23. IT on the road by trav3l3r · · Score: 1

    Two options I can think of off hand (I have done both). Military: I served 20 years in the Air Force, nearly all of that as a Sysad. Got some great training, (not only in IT, but several other things also) was paid OK and did get to do a lot of travel. Even though I was often in places where I received combat pay, I never got shot at. The Air Force has a lot of state of the art (or close to it) systems, and if you get the right assignment you could be working on them right out of tech school. The other option (slightly less dangerous in some areas) teaching. If you teach for an organization like Learning Tree or New Horizons then you could potentially do a lot of travel.

  24. easy easy by truffle · · Score: 2, Funny


    With your IT degree you will be perfectly prepared 4 years from now to land a job in India or China doing IT work for American companies.

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  25. Re:Traveling Techies -- try the UN by passthecrackpipe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Try the UN - they have people flying all over the place all the time. They will work primarily in Africa, South America and Asia (ie rural development areas) and you will be doing stuff such as setting up wireless broadband networks, teaching locals how to use technology, and pushing lots of Linux and Open source Software to its limits. You won't make lots of money, but you will gain lots of experience, get the good feeling that you are actually using technology to help those who most need it, and you get to see some interesting places.

    The UN job site is currently showing 20 IT related jobs. Have fun.

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  26. IB IT by kapital · · Score: 1

    Go to work for a global investment bank. MS, GS, CSFB, or a software vendor/consulting firm that sells systems to one of those guys.

    If you don't mind selling out and going the analysis/project management route, you will travel a lot. You'll never see rural China this way, but Chicago, NY, London, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Tokyo are all on the list. As an added bonus, you'll fly business class, stay in the best hotels, and bill everything back to the project.

    Pure coding roles see v. little travel, however. You can move around some, but you're on your own to do it. (no expense account, etc)

  27. Security Consultant by swdunlop · · Score: 1

    Security consultants have the potential to be travelling nearly constantly, spending one to two weeks in each location. The pay is pretty good, but you'll need to be able to express yourself well to other people since you will often be responsible for explaining your findings to the clients.

  28. Airline related jobs by DaRat · · Score: 1

    As others have said, there are plenty of jobs where travel is required.

    Some of the best can be airline related. Either working for an airline or working for a company that provides services to an airline.

    With an airline, even if you don't travel from place to place with the airline itself, you get flight privileges which means that you get to travel for free on the airline wherever it goes. Often, you also get reduced rate privileges (or free privileges) on partner airlines. One of my friends completed an MBA in Chicago by flying there evey weekend for free for 2 years. Want to spend the weekend in Paris? No problem: just head to the airport, show your ID, and get onboard.

    Working for a company that provides services to airlines (like Sabre or PROS Revenue Management) can also be pretty sweet. I spent a year and a half at one of these companies, and I ended up in Taiwan, South Africa, Chile, and Mexico. Our contracts were nice particularly since they specified either business or first class travel only.

  29. Take some English classes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    and many of them are cubical warriors

    If you wish to travel the world, it is highly likely that you will need to command at least two languages. From your post, it is clear that you do not yet command your native tongue and a second language is highly doubtful.

    Cubical refers to a cube shape. Cubicle refers to a partitioned space, ironically for sleeping, such as a carrell that is commonly used for office workers.

    As a student at a prominent university, with desires to "see the world", one should really have a better grasp on the English language. Most US employers require their employees to be skilled in English. Obvious exceptions include Yellow Cab and 7-Eleven.

  30. Work for a Bank.... by eggoeater · · Score: 1

    The pay isn't as good as other IT jobs, but the environment is easy-going (unless were doing a merger....) and my bank gives you 21 days off (count 'em!) after you become an officer. That's not including the 10 paid federal holidays. Do the math...that's a lot of travel time to go where I please. There was a 1 1/2 year gap between my graduation and my job that I was hoping to do all kinds of stuff. I've traveled more since I got my job (since I have the money to travel.)
    When I was in college I always said I'd never work for a bank or an insurance company. I caved and got this bank job and was very surprised how technologically sophisticated they were.
    There's always talk of banks moving programming overseas (BofA did it) but there's always tons of IT jobs that have to stay on-site....and large banks always have lots of sites.
    Steve

  31. prominent university by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you out of your mind? Since when has Penn State been considered a prominent university? U Penn is a prominent university so maybe you were confused. But Penn State is not even one of the better state schools.

  32. Cruise ship? by oldmildog · · Score: 1

    Have you thought about working on a cruise ship after you graduate? It's a great way to see the world on someone else's dollar, and on many of the cruise lines the IT techs are officer positions, so you'd get your own room, privileges to get people onboard with you for free, etc. This varies depending on what company you hook up with. Most people I worked with burned out on it after a few years, but it's fun while it lasts, and decent experience as well.

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  33. I'd rather slit my wrists than work in a cube by aminorex · · Score: 1

    I've been telecommuting since 1990, and I
    think anyone who works in this industry and
    sets foot on company premises more than once
    a month is living a substandard life.

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  34. You want to travel and work in your field? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See if you can line up a job as a customer engineer or field service tech for some IT product or other. Travel, stress, and weird hotel food all rolled into one.

  35. Field Engineer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The company I work for has a customer service model in which there are Field Engineers that are responsible for installing and support our enterise systems at the customer site.
    Some areas of the world are packed with our FEs (such as east coast), which is covered by ~10 of them, but some areas (APAC, for instance), has 2 or 3. Can be interesting to work there for a couple of years.

  36. Re:Traveling Techies -- try the UN by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 1

    I can't help but be amused that the UN Web site, or at least that portion of it, runs on ASP.

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  37. Business Travel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've got a friend who's worked for several consulting firms. His routine was: 1) Get up very early Monday morning and go to the airport. Fly to work location. 2) Work through week, putting in maximum amount of billable hours. Sleep at local hotel. 3) Friday night - go to airport. Fly home, drive to house late Friday night, early Saturday morning. 4) Repeat

    Pluses: pays well, interesting, challenging work.

    Minuses: don't see much of family and friends, travel wears you down after a while, consulting firms are gradually moving most work off-shore.

    YMMV

  38. Programming at C by redog · · Score: 1

    Like so many before me have said A Tech Job in the navy or abord a cruise liner will get you arround the world. I spent some time working for a surveying company, we did hydro acoustic surveying. Not only do you get to travel the world but the inaccuracys involved in sonigraphic surveying are some truely some problems that can tune your solving skills. Sea life is nothing like a 9-5(even with 24hr on call).
    You live in close quarters with your boss and co-workers, you will learn and accomplish more at sea then a "land lover" could dream of. Of coures there is that lack of the internet unless you work for a really really wealthy commpany with spoiled clients! So bring plenty of reading material.

  39. teleworking in a consultancy by munkinut · · Score: 1

    That's what I do. My company is a 130 strong consultancy with all consultants either on client site, on the bench (not currently assigned), or teleworking on internal company projects. We all keep in touch by email, IM etc, and meet up a few times a year as a company to touch base and have a few beers. I am in the latter group and I can pretty much base myself anywhere I choose. Cool huh. There are always opportunities to do these things if you look around. You are in charge, don't condemn yourself to cubelife if that's not your bag man.

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  40. Raytheon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am just about to graduate and I am going to work for Raytheon (at state college) and even though I will be a cube jockey the majority of the time, I will also be going to sites all over the world (on occasion). Best of both worlds, stable job, but some traveling if I want it.

  41. Hectic by mikeleemm · · Score: 1

    Gotta be very careful with jobs that require travel. At first it might seem like a lot of fun, but it gets old fast. When you are spending your free time in airports, and living off of hotel room service (novelty of it wears off QUICK) and driving rental cars in the middle of the country, it's not much fun. My job doesn't even require travel, but the little I do gets to me. IT consulting I guess is a good description of what I do, and business travel has taken me from large insurance companies, manufacturing sites to government. It isn't all that it's cracked up to be.

  42. Defense by DustyShadow · · Score: 1

    Try applying to defense contractors. I graduated a year ago and have been working for one since. I've been to Europe twice already and may have the chance to go to some other places too...I think hawaii may be on the list...since you will have a customer that is based all over the world, you'll most likely be involved in a project that requires on-site support...but like some of the other people have said, living out of a hotel room for weeks at a time is not exactly the best life.

    A lot of companies like to send the young guys cause they have no "baggage" back at home (i.e. kids or wife).

  43. Yeah, all our jobs are traveling to India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nuf sed

  44. double edged sword by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have no IT qualifications, just an Arts Degree. I help run a FOSS project. I have been to Europe twice in 3months and will come back at least twice next year.

    Also keep in mind, airline food tastes like crap after a while, flight delays are a consiparcy to deprive you of more sleep and security checks are designed as side show entertainment. Watching movies on 10in screens with tinny head sets is a great idea for the kids, but as a grown man the novelty has worn off. The Frequent Flier points are nice, but by the time you have enough for a holiday flight, you will be completely over flying. I forget to mention it is pretty lonely when you can speak the language.

    btw this is one lesson it is fun to learn the hard way.

  45. Some not-quite-techie jobs by anticypher · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here are some things I've done in between serious periods of technical consulting. Not for everyone, but every few years its good to go out and do something different.

    Travel Writer. While you are still in school, take journalism and creative writing classes. Learn to sell your articles. Use your computer skills to create a website, and maintain your articles in a database or wiki where you can pull one up and quickly re-write it into a new article. Then every time you travel, make sure about 4 hours of each day are spent working on your article(s) of the trip. Take digital photos of lots of things, keep the captions straight. Research hotel prices, interesting things in the area (plagiarize directly from other travel guides, then verify, they often have intentionally misleading info), and keep a diary on some kind of mobile computing device. Make sure you have a website where you can try selling your articles in near-real-time, and if an editor wants a specific angle on a story, you can work it up while there. Start while you are still in school, to have a good base of editorial contacts.

    Technical Trainer. For some products a company needs a trainer to follow up the sale with a few days or a week of on-site training. Good trainers are hard to find, good trainers with extensive technical background are very rare indeed. Only a few companies actually realise this and pay accordingly, but I know one who travels to cities all over the place and earns about 150k euros/year (30 weeks X 5,000 Euros). When he gets an assignment to a location he has never been before, he always adds a few days to his trip for traveling in the area. Needless to say, he is single.

    Events Coordinator. Specifically, hi-tech events. There is a need to work alongside the other coordinators for things like internet access, power requirements, cabling, and speciality telecoms and satellite access. There is also a whole field around event security, providing the big burly guys with working radios, a command centre with computers and video surveillance, and other security related items. There has to be a hands-on techie to ensure smooth operation. Speaking multiple languages is also a key requirement, at least here in Europe.

    There are lots of early career organisations, like the Peace Corps, or Ingenieurs Sans Frontiers, who will place you in a village somewhere for a year to earn some work experience. The only travel involved is in getting to the place, and back home after a year. But its a good way to see at least one other small part of the world. Take lots of language courses while you can, english only goes so far if you want to actually work in non-anglo parts of the world.

    As others have pointed out, serious relationships and a travel career are mutually exclusive. Having children almost certainly means you need to settle down. So plan on having the travel career right after school, while you are still free enough to enjoy it, and expect to change into a cubicle job later.

    the AC

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  46. India (or drop out) by SomethingOrOther · · Score: 1

    Are there any jobs in an IT field where I can travel?

    Learn to speak Urdu / Hindi.
    Plenty of techies are needed to leaise (sp) and the food is bloody excellent.

    Anyway, whats wrong with droping out and bumming your way around the world on a motorbike.
    And dont give me that 'I cant' crap. Life is not a rehersal

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    1. Re:India (or drop out) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Learn to speak Urdu / Hindi.
      Plenty of techies are needed to leaise (sp) and the food is bloody excellent.

      And dont give me that 'I cant' crap.


      I think that if I spent very much time eating the food that is applicable to those that speak urdu/hindi, I would not have a problem with being unable to crap.

      Quite the opposite, I expect.

      ~~RC~~

    2. Re:India (or drop out) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      VBG

      Putting the bog roll in the fridge works wonders

  47. ibm global services? by RMH101 · · Score: 1

    oh yes, if you like being posted places freight.

  48. Contracting by RMH101 · · Score: 1

    ...You'll be moving house every 6 months just to keep eating...

  49. Auditors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a job as an auditor with a large (multi-national) corporation. Some audit teams do require technical ability (i.e. if you're auditing site system security).

  50. Re:Traveling Techies State Dept is hiring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    State Department is looking for a good few techies these days for US and abroad assignments check out their website: http://www.state.gov/employment/
    You do need to know how to read and write. :-)

    A local DC area company that contracts with the State Department: www.orkand.com currently looking for Software Trainers to travel the world. Hmm, website is currently down.

    I intereviewed there about 5 to 7 years ago and turned it down because I just got married. Travel was 50 - 75% at that time. However, now I wish I took it for at least a year, currently my Mrs. wants kids so no more long term travel opportunities for me....

    Of course you could be sent to the exiting locations of Afghanistan\Iraq\Colombia to list the latest dens of death and destruction. In the 170 + countries of the world, you are more likely to be sent to a far duller location.

    State Department assignments are 2 to 4 years; I orkand was a few weeks at an embassy at a time, then hop to the next one.
    -Neilix

  51. There's travel and then there's travel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As others have noted, a job that involves a lot of short-term travel can soon pall. When I was just a few years out of university I had about 18 months of living out of suitcases in hotels, and towards the end on friends' floors between assignments; unsurprisingly, the relationship I was in at the time didn't survive for long. There's another type of travel, though, that's got a lot to recommend it, which is where you spend a couple of years or so in the same place. You get to experience more of the local culture, which even if it's part of the general 'Western' one has a lot of different flavours and variations; you're there long enough to get to know some people reasonably well, and so on. Multinational companies are the places where this sort of assignment is most likely: they've found that it pays them to promote this experience for talented people working in the company's core areas; I imagine that government agencies may also go in for this to some extent. I do stress 'core areas' here: an IT company will be more likely to run such an exchange program for technicals than a financial services company, which will be interested in identifying and promoting high flying analysts and business managers. Landing a succession of these assignments in different places is feasible if you develop a reputation for good work and for being able to handle and enjoy the cultural differences.

    Just one word of advice: this lifestyle, unlike hotel-hopping, can be very attractive and if you start on it early you may find a few years down the road that you've lost touch with many old friends back home, or indeed are no longer quite sure where home is any longer. Making a point of coming back regularly to keep in touch (with family, friends *and* your 'home' management) is highly advisable, so you have a place to come back to later.

  52. what 4yrs left.... by s33l3t · · Score: 0

    " How would I go about getting the right contacts regarding this? I have 4 years till graduation, so this isn't a direct plea for a job..." instead of thinking about what your going to do in 4 years, you are in the "college" environment. you know theres those things that walk around campus with really short shorts. try travelling round campus and have some fun. trust me my life is basically ruined cause i work and goto school full-time, which equals no time for fun. live life....

  53. Travel is best suited for young (single?) workers by dcavanaugh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Many people with middle-age responsibilities (spouse & kids) are looking to minimize travel. Travel requirements are seldom viewed as a plus, except by young people want to travel. I never thought about it before, but high-travel jobs might be the one area where employers favor recent grads (few responsibilities, willingness to live cheaply, flexible schedules, few complaints).

    Believe me, the mystique of travel fades soon enough. I had an around-the-world trip in 1999. Nobody would do it this way in 2003, but at the time I travelled alone. As an added bonus, I was sick as a dog every step of the way. Sick in UK, sick in Switzerland, sick in Hong Kong, sick in China. Over the course of two weeks, I was miserable in all 24 time zones. If I tried such a thing today, I would have been stuck in the SARS quarantine.

    I met some great people, and discovered that British Air has very nice seats in Business Class on their long-haul international flights. All of this is fine, but travel is a "defensive" game. You are defending your property and yourself against a number of threats, and you are mostly trying to prevent things from going wrong. It's a fun game to play, but the novelty wears off.

  54. Vertical Market Database by throatmonster · · Score: 1

    Create a specialized database for some obscure vertical market. I'm the leading (well, only besides homegrown) database vendor for an industry with about 100 businesses in the US. I travel 2-3 times a year - not enough to completely alienate the family (the spouse only sulks a little bit) or get really tired of it.

    Get a job where you can ride a bicycle or walk to work and back every day. There's always something interesting to see if you're going slow enough to notice it. Really.

    There are a few people who really like the travel and such. Most of them are very people-oriented. I'm more comfortable talking to a few thousand lines of PHP code.

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  55. Ok, deliberate spelling mistake, I know... by cliveholloway · · Score: 1
    ...but did you mean to spell serve or sever - I can't quite work it out.

    ,02

    cLive ;-)

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  56. German Option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I took a job in Germany, and spent weekends seeing that country, and used my 6 weeks vaction (which is normal in Germany - I thought the guy who offered me the job was screwing with his English, but it was true) to see the rest of Europe. It was nice, since I had a home base, and my company was nice enough to give me a VW camping van as my "company car". With the value of the Euro, your pay would probably look cool, too.
    I was based near Dusseldorf, but I would recommend the Munich area - you'd probably be more comfortable there, the food is better, the people easier (by American standards anyway), and you're near a lot of stuff.

  57. Navy: Be Careful What You Wish For by Mad+Man · · Score: 1

    was Re: Military

    Well, there's always the Navy. They're always looking for skilled people willing to server.

    Join the Navy, see the world. Just remember that it's 75% water.

  58. Hazard of traveling by cafebabe · · Score: 1

    As someone who has been traveling 100% for work for the last 3 years, let me give you a warning. When I first started traveling (right out of college like you) I thought it would be a great way to see different places by exploring the town I was staying in after work. I quickly learned that companies assume that when you are on travel, they can make you work longer hours so there is no "after work". Managers bully you into working longer hours than at home with the attitude of "Why are you leaving? It's not like you have to go home to your family. You've only got an empty hotel room that WE'RE paying for to go back to so I think you should just stay here and work."

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    1. Re:Hazard of traveling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jeeze, what industry?

      I was a specialist in a now-obsolete programming environment and got to travel all over the place solving problems, advising and consulting. Often had to work long hours if there was work to do, but once the major fires were put out (or were just smoldering), could easily have evenings to myself. Got to see Blue Man Group in Boston, chamber music in St Paul, Gamelan music in Wellington. Found interesting restaurants all over -- Zurich, San Antonio, Amsterdam -- except in Malvern, Pa. Sorry, Malvern, you suck.

      I'm still using my frequent flyer miles from those days, mostly for upgrades. I was recently called about a contract that would have me in California two weeks out of the month for a year and I'd gladly do it except for my being in a relationship. Could easily find a dozen weekend side trips (or head home if I didn't, in this case).

      The {pack/jet there/unpack/pack/jet home/unpack/do laundry}.* cycle does get tiresome, but if your company has other consultants you can bump into, it can make for fun camaradre and a certain amount of interesting company/industry/personal gossip. Toss in the occasional intimate liason for extra spice.

      Get a cheap room as a home base, live off an expense account, and have fun. Keep an exercise program going -- besides the ff miles, I've still got a few pounds from those days, too.

  59. IT Trainer by macdaddy · · Score: 1

    Yes. Become a training person in IT. I got a couple certs a few years back. One was a class in Chicago. The other was in Dallas. One instructor was in his early 30s and had done computer networking in the Navy. The other had been networking for decades. I never asked the first guy what he made but the second guy readily divulged all the juicy details while drinking and eating steak at Bone Daddy's in Dallas (nice steak house if you're ever in Dallas BTW, hot waitresses too). He made $1100 a day plus expenses. Not too shabby if you ask me. I'd gladly spend my youth traveling the country doing training for that kind of green. Granted you are on a plane all the damned time. Still, the money is worth it I think. Both of these courses were from Global Knowledge and were pretty good I thought. My $.02. PS, you should really have some experience before you jump on the cert training bandwagon.

  60. Re:If you like traveling, try the military by pdxChris · · Score: 1

    If you think a military job would appeal to you anyway (i.e. you don't define yourself by being a non-conformist peacenick, etc.) then it's a good option to consider.

    A friend of mine who was in the US Army a few years ago said that when he enlisted, he got a choice: he could either pick his job, or his location. He chose to work in a particular country of interest to him, and had a lot of lousy jobs in a place he loved. On the other hand, when my brother joined the Navy he chose his job (welding) and they chose his locations (Guam, where American sailors were welcomed, and Sicily, where they were hated). During his training, he and his wife spent their last dime to get a home by the base he was told he'd be at for a year, and at literally the last day they relocated him a day's drive away.

    I wouldn't be surprised if in the future, there will be IT support analyst jobs travelling with journalists who make a living from individual subscribers to their online news services: a one-person (or few-person) news agency. The geek would keep the capture/edit/upload system running 24x7.

  61. Re:Traveling Techies -- try the UN by PortWineBoy · · Score: 1

    Since that link leads to a VB error on an ASP page, my guess is they really need the help!

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  62. Internal auditor? by zetabrown · · Score: 1

    Internal auditors for a company travel to a site and spend 3 - 6 weeks at a site looking through the way the company executes. Probably deadly boring work, but - very little overtime - very little interference from your clients! - weekends and evenings free In 2 years you could visit 12 - 18 countries for long enough to get to know the place a little - not like the rest of us who are on fast in and fast out schedule.

  63. Sun Market-Development Engineering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I worked for Sun MDE during 1999 based in Israel and on average I travelled abroad once a month, half of these to the San-Jose area but also to customer sites in Germany, South Korea, a show in Paris, a benchmark in Portland, OR, a conference in Washington DC, JavaOne in SF (we were among the few Sun employees allowed to come over, sort of as a bonus for being so "far out". Sun didn't want this to be too much "Sun centric").
    Sun's policy (or at least my direct boss) was to encourage people to take a couple of days off around the work days, so I got to hop over the Nevada to fly a glider, go with family to lake Tahoe for a day of skiing, stop-over in Italy to visit a friend I met at JavaOne, take a couple of days tour outside Seul to learn a bit about Korean traditions and history etc...

    Now as for Sun as a long-term workplace, I don't know how it goes. I heared with sorrow that they are in troubles now. I left there after a year because I missed programming too much, and got over 60% pay rise working for a software startup. Travelling is the single big thing I miss about working for Sun. Not much else.

  64. See the world by C10H14N2 · · Score: 1

    First, gain fluency in your favorite second language at a university level of reading, writing and conversation. Second, finish a master's degree (hey, howzabout in that language?) or better so you can enter the government (the only entity bar the military likely to send you overseas anytime soon) at a salary level that won't make you cry. Third, apply for any reasonable job that will provide you with a TS/SCI with full lifestyle polygraph. Fourth, finish 3-year compulsory stint in non-excepted service to have first $20k in student loans paid off. (read: accept it, buddy, everyone else 'pays their dues' and that process begins AFTER college, so start planning your cube decor now.) Fifth, voila, choose your favorite international superspy job with the realization that A) now you're sitting in Oaugoudougu--in a cubicle, and B) if you really wanted to get out, travel and not be stuck in a cube, you should have joined the damned Marines, studied theatre or maybe been a cowboy, baby.