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Open Source Tools in Data Centers

An anonymous reader writes "There is a nice presentation on the L.A.S. Linux site entitled "Managing Data Center Functions with Open Source Tools" which was presented at Comdex 2003. It covers everything from IPtables to OpenNMS. As well as covering some less known but nice tools like NeDi, which lets you easily manage Cisco routers and swiches from a web browser."

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  1. fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    1. Re:fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Offtopic but true...

    2. Re:fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  2. Your FP has been made IRRELEVANT (3 Trollkore) by (TK2)Dessimat0r · · Score: -1

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    1. Re:Your FP has been made IRRELEVANT (3 Trollkore) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      The bishop, while living, was a follower of God.
      Now dead, his rotting fingers are able to raise
      an army of skeletons from the grave.


      Where the fuck did you get that from? Some fucking Magic the fucking Gathering card? Hahaha, you're a loser playing Magic in your parent's basement!

    2. Re:Your FP has been made IRRELEVANT (3 Trollkore) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me guess, you were that kid in art class that always drew pictures of people being torn to bits by a guy with a chainsaw -- so disturbing, in fact, that the teacher had to take you aside at the end of class and have "that talk."

    3. Re:Your FP has been made IRRELEVANT (3 Trollkore) by (TK)Dessimat0r · · Score: -1

      and you were the guy who was popular, invited to all the 'parties' where all your 'friends' would converse with you... now you have moved on and realised these people were all part of the hollow shell you called your life, now trying desperatly to live up to the standards society has set you - you find youself unhappy and alone... you know in your heart that everything you have done is fake, and your life has been entirely inconsequential.

    4. Re:Your FP has been made IRRELEVANT (3 Trollkore) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Ha Ha!

      Only a true loser would have recognized that as a Magic the Lamering card!

    5. Re:Your FP has been made IRRELEVANT (3 Trollkore) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, you're entirely right. The only thing that discredits you is that you're just an angsty 13-year-old teenager. Grow up and we'll see what you think then. If you still feel like that then, you'll be considered authentic.

  3. vservers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I own a shared ISP, and I am looking for a way to do virtual private servers under Linux. (basically, instead of sharing one server, everyone runs their own under a chrooted secure environment) I have looked at linux-vserver, but I want a mature and stable solution. sphera is an option, but it is proprietary and expensive.

    1. Re:vservers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      you want user mode linux
      google for it, mighty isp owner

    2. Re:vservers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      FreeBSD's chroot jails are a much better and more efficent solution

    3. Re:vservers by DDumitru · · Score: 2, Informative
      Your definately want UML.

      http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net

      UML has a number of differences when compared to chroot environments.

      • Resource usage is higher because less is shared.
      • Each virtual needs a real network, and usually a real public IP
      • Network configuration can become nightmareish as the number of virtuals grows unless you write some signifigant config scripts that run dynamically.
      • You really need a good understanding of networking and especially routing and how ARP works. The docs on the UML site are correct, but they only scratch the surface.
      • You still have to secure the virtual on the host system. This usually involves running UML as non-root inside of a chroot jail that is as sparsly populated as possible.
      • You will want the SKAS patch.
        • With the SKAS patch, you will need a /proc in your chroot jail. Look at mount --bind to just mount /proc/cpuinfo and /proc/mm

      On the other hand, UML is good enough to fool even the hackers (I have had UMLs hacked and the hacker didn't realize they were in a virtual).

      We run public webservers, and mailservers on UML. We are at the point where we just assume that you use one UML per application. The manageability of running single-application servers is just too good to pass up.

    4. Re:vservers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would you consider someone hacking a virtual server to be a fool? It's as good as the real thing to a hacker in many cases. And by the way: a simple cat /proc/cpuinfo will do the trick of identifying user mode linux.

    5. Re:vservers by DDumitru · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In one sense, hacking a virtual is as good as hacking the real thing. On the other hand, hacking a virtual is quite dangerous on the part of the hacker.

      UML virtuals have the ability to log a bunch of stuff "outside" the virtual. This can include keystroke logging on devices (including the pty's that ssh allocates). Plus you have a 100% sniffable network from the outside and the "owner" of the UML can "give" the virtual to the hacker at almost no cost and watch and learn.

      If you are concerned about a hacker launching a DDOS using your virtual, this can happen, but you can also stop or mitigate it without tipping your hand against the hacker. You can firewall the virtual from the host side and silently block all (or most) of the attacking packets. You can even rate-limit the damage that they can do with 'tc'.

      The amazing thing about getting a UML hacked is that most hackers don't even realize they are being watched. While /proc/cpuinfo and a bunch of device setups are unique to UML, most hackers have no clue and trudge on blindly. If you want to be more "stealthy" and setup a honeypot, the honeypot /proc and /dev filesystems change all the names to match a "normal" physical server. If your purpose is a "honeypot", you will probably need to only run a single UML with enough memory to seem realistic. Even then, if the hacker knows the internals of Linux, he can tell, altough it might require writing/loading a kernel module to see that the address space is not quite right.

    6. Re:vservers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they aren't much better. They're much worse and consume less resources because you don't get half of the features.

      Now get lost, assclown.

    7. Re:vservers by protektor · · Score: 0, Redundant

      You might want to look at FreeVSD ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/freevsd/). It used to be a commerical package and many ISPs have used it over the years. It hasn't been updated in a few months though since the company went under in Jan. 2003.

      It has all your virtual server stuff and even has a web interface to manage everything as well, like the creation of new virtual servers, etc.

      I don't see why the Open Source community couldn't pick up on it and update it for the last releases of Linux distributions. Everyone keeps saying that they would pay to help develop an Open Source virtual server program, well here is your chance to do so with a working program.

      If you are looking for a web hosting control panel then you also might want to look at Vishwakarma (http://kandalaya.org/vishwakarma.shtml). It is a nice package and has been around for awhile with a nice web interface and even has support for reseller, and user management options.

    8. Re:vservers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, you want vserver. It is more flexible and powerful than FreeBSD's jail and just as efficient (only a system call away).

      http://vserver.strahlungsfrei.de/tiki-index.php
      http://www.linux-vserver.org/
      http://www.solucor p.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc

  4. IPtables by Pingular · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Interestingly, Harald Welte (creator of IPTables) will be giving a talk at Linux/Bangalore 2003, among 100s of others.

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    1. Re:IPtables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      FUCK THOSE RAGHEAD JOB STEALERS.

      Linux-Bangalore... thats it open sores advocates, just keep shipping all our jobs overseas.

    2. Re:IPtables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I wanna be a successful karma whoring troll, too.

    3. Re:IPtables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not let them all gather there and then drop le bombe neutron on them?

    4. Re:IPtables by fmileto · · Score: 1

      Wait, didn't Paul Russell write Netfilter/Iptables?

  5. Can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    a fat man who lives with his mother find love on
    this blog?

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  7. My favorite use of OS by afidel · · Score: 5, Informative

    in the enterprise datacenter has to be Cisco Enterprise Printing System of CEPS for short. With CEPS Cisco has over 10K printers in thousands of sites around the world with only 2 print admin's!! CEPS is based around SAMBA and CUPS and allows windows, linux, and unix clients to print to printers in a way that is unmatched for redundancy in any other product commercial or otherwise. Remote print servers can take over controll of print queues quickly in the event of a print server failure and queues can be rerouted to a new print device should a physical printer fail all without client reconfiguration! Cisco was nice enough to give the system back to the world. They have a sourceforge project available for anyone interested.

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    1. Re:My favorite use of OS by Space+cowboy · · Score: 1

      I wonder what the TCO figures look like :-) I'd love to see a comparison done with a Windows administration system for 10,000 printers :-)

      Simon.

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    2. Re:My favorite use of OS by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny
      10K printers in thousands of sites around the world with only 2 print admin's

      They must be awfully busy putting paper in the printers! :^P (Yeah, you'd think most people should be smart enough to figure that out, but you'd be wrong.)

      It does sound like a cool setup.

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    3. Re:My favorite use of OS by lisany · · Score: 3, Funny

      Remote print servers can take over controll of print queues quickly in the event of a print server failure and queues can be rerouted to a new print device should a physical printer fail all without client reconfiguration!

      I can see it now...

      Boss: Hey Lloyd! Where's that document I printed twenty minutes ago?
      Lloyd: Umm, its not here--ah. the printer was broken and sent off for servicing
      Boss: FIND IT!
      Lloyd: Well, boss, I found the document--
      Boss: Great! Where is it?
      Lloyd: Well, that's the thing, Boss *gulp* Its in our Singapore office. Boss: *thinks: but this is New York!*

    4. Re:My favorite use of OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The physical maintenance is handled by a separate group, and definitely consumes more man-hours. The CEPS team only handles the print servers and driver issues.

  8. Open Source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As an adiministrator at one of the midwest's largest isps/data centers, I am always looking for better ways of administration. Currently, we use plesk for all our client server administration. However, this costs us a fortune... which is passed on to our clients. I would contribute a lot of this money myself towards a 100% open-source, stable, secure distribution specifically made for web hosting. Features like virtual private servers, a control panel comparable to plesk, and completely secured ssh access would be ideal. In addition, kernel mods to protect security (keeping people out of resources they shouldn't be in) should be done. I could do this myself, but I just don't have the time to keep it maintained myself.

    1. Re:Open Source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "I would contribute a lot of this money myself towards a 100% open-source, stable, secure distribution specifically made for web hosting."

      Would always could but never did. I've seen this type of comment made so many times, but it's rare to see someone actually put money where their mouth is.

    2. Re:Open Source by protektor · · Score: 1, Informative

      You might want to look at FreeVSD ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/freevsd/ ). It used to be a commerical package and many ISPs have used it over the years. It hasn't been updated in a few months though since the company went under in Jan. 2003.

      It has all your virtual server stuff and even has a web interface to manage everything as well, like the creation of new virtual servers, etc.

      I don't see why the Open Source community couldn't pick up on it and update it for the last releases of Linux distributions. Everyone keeps saying that they would pay to help develop an Open Source virtual server program, well here is your chance to do so with a working program.

      If you are looking for a web hosting control panel then you also might want to look at Vishwakarma (http://kandalaya.org/vishwakarma.shtml). It is a nice package and has been around for awhile with a nice web interface and even has support for reseller, and user management options.

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  10. Samba is King of the Free Software World by the+man+with+the+pla · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Admit it. With the exception of Apache, Samba is the number one reason that Linux (and BSD, too!) has been able to invade the datacenters of companies the world over.

    Without Samba, Linux et al would be in a much less pretty position.

    Perhaps we should call it Samba/GNU/Linux? :)

    Kudos to the Samba Team, Tridge, and all Samba developers/testers/users!

    --
    The linux hacker
    1. Re:Samba is King of the Free Software World by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      What role does Samba play in a datacenter? (Answer: None, it's a toy for little Windows workgroups)

    2. Re:Samba is King of the Free Software World by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'm not so sure. Yes, from an administration standpoint it's far easier to make the server (Linux) conform (Samba) to the client (Windows) than it is to force all the clients to conform (NFS) to the server, but if Samba did not exist I believe NFS would have stepped in and filled the gap. Samba has reduced the need for a good open NFS client for Windows, but I'm sure someone would have written one if Samba did not exist.

      Indeed, I predict that someone will write one should Microsoft succeed in shutting down Samba (via patents or whatever -- you know killing Samba is on their to-do list).

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    3. Re:Samba is King of the Free Software World by hendridm · · Score: 1

      I love Samba, but in a data center? I guess my idea of a data center is the likes of Rackshack and DataPipe, of which have no use for Windows shares, but I suppose if your data center has a need for thousands of Windows shares... :/

      SCP is the way for me.

    4. Re:Samba is King of the Free Software World by wfrp01 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The problem with NFS is that it presumes the clients are trusted. SMB is not the most secure network file system, but it's more secure than NFS, and ubiquitous. Perhaps the next version of NFS will be better in this regard, I'm not sure.

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    5. Re:Samba is King of the Free Software World by rizawbone · · Score: 1

      I've worked in 2 major datacenters and samba is no where to be seen. Do you even know what a datacenter is?

    6. Re:Samba is King of the Free Software World by Captain_Chaos · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the next version of NFS will be better in this regard...

      It is.

    7. Re:Samba is King of the Free Software World by carpus · · Score: 1

      Perhaps AFS and/or CODA will provide enough diviersion that Microsoft is unable to nail either of them. The Distributed filesystems like CODA and AFS, while not well known by the general populace, would probably provide as much quiver down Bill's spine as Samba, not because they are better than Samba, but that they represent some very cutting-edge, future competition. Is M$ focuses on Samba too much and not on the other high-tech alternatives, they may just get handed their hat from behind...

    8. Re:Samba is King of the Free Software World by Glamdrlng · · Score: 1

      (via patents or whatever -- you know killing Samba is on their to-do list).

      Incidentally, with its first service pack, Windows Server 2003 is supposed to have a "feature" whereby it can check to see of connecting client machines conform to a patch/service pack policy, and deny them access if they don't. What do you suppose will happen when a linux machine tries to connect to one of these servers using smbclient or smbmount?

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  11. Missing software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I would include Zabbix to the Monitoring and Administration section. This is out-of-the-box application that takes care of monitoring of our network consisting of more than 400 nodes. It is not as mature as Nagios or MRTG, but its stability and feature set makes it extremely useful. Native high-performance agents cover most of platforms: Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, MS WIN, Linux, *BSD, OS X. Could be installed in a 5 minutes, this is big advantage over Nagios or OpenNMS.

    1. Re:Missing software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      He states in the article on the website 'Fear and Loathing at comdex 2003' that, "Being that there are so many tools that can fit into that catagory which are Open Source. I did my best to give a high level overview of what there is available and to mention the less known, but equally good tools available. So please don't send me hate mail as to why X, Y, or Z was not mentioned."

      So with limited time he was only trying to give people unfamiliar with Open Source tools a tasting of what there is to offer. . .

  12. Open source in the data center? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    With all the recent security issues surrounding open source (Debian, anyone), I would think twice about using open source in my data center.

    When it comes to centralized management of your IT assets, Microsoft products are unbeatable. An excellent reason to be an MS only shop, IMHO.

    1. Re:Open source in the data center? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's not forget that Microsoft.com was down friday night :)

      Now, if you're looking for someone to blame, Microsoft is sure the way to go. Hard to get away with blaming open source if you have advocated its' use. Funny how the opposite can easily be done for Microsoft products.

      -Justin

    2. Re:Open source in the data center? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's a pretty lame troll. If I had to list all the windows systems that were broken into the last 5 yrs from personal experience, it would far out weigh the Debian incident. The diference between open source and corporations is the Open source community is transparent about it. You're obviously not a system administrator. My own personal guess (which is based on first hand experience), is that windows only networks are compromised more than 3x in the corporate world than the equivalent unix network.

    3. Re:Open source in the data center? by El+Cubano · · Score: 4, Informative

      With all the recent security issues surrounding open source (Debian, anyone), I would think twice about using open source in my data center.

      Please get a clue. The Debian compromise was because of a lost password. Every OS/App is equally vulnerabne to this.

      When it comes to centralized management of your IT assets, Microsoft products are unbeatable. An excellent reason to be an MS only shop, IMHO.

      Now I get it, you're trolling. MS may have some good tools, if you need point-and-drool and don't try to do anything the system or tool was not explicitly designed to do.

      In my case, I admin a research lab with 12 workstations and two servers, all running GNU/Linux. I spend no more than 15 minutes per week on routine admin tasks, all of it from home. I can also remotely install any software the researchers need. The only reason I ever need to physically go there is to replenish the office supplies (toner, paper, bsank CDs). That sort of a setup would be difficult, if not impossible, with an MS-only setup.

    4. Re:Open source in the data center? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When it comes to centralized management of your IT assets, Microsoft products are unbeatable. An excellent reason to be an MS only shop, IMHO.

      I guess that's why they had to license some technology from NetIQ ... to better manage the OS they develop ...

      unbeatable ... non-sense

  13. Why NeDi makes Cisco easier to use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As far as I'm concerned HP switches that have web GUI built in are much better for Medium (up to 500 clients) deployment than Cisco crap. Cisco makes money on training, books etc and I feel that they purporsley make their interface (command line only) hard to use. Even the prompt commands aren't intuitivley named. There is just to much money in the books, and training for Cisco to give it up and the price they pay is that people who need to deploy medium LAN's rather quickly will opt for HP and 3Com. Its good to see NeDi taking that vacum and getting Cisco IOS badly needed...uh...common sense.

  14. The Omega Agency - the truth about New World Order by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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    The Author of this Report is Unknown

    They are who people are talking about when one says orders come from "above the President".

    The Omega Agency consists of a network set up much like the CIA. There are thousands world-wide who take their orders directly from the ruling council of the Omega Agency. This council consists of 10 to 12 people. George Bush and Alexander C. Haig are two names known to sit on the council of the Omega Agency. The OA is the driving force behind what is commonly called the "New World Order." The OA's office is located at Langley AFB.

    They plan to establish their NWO, for lack of a better term, in a time span of no less than 5 days. And they intend to do it without open war.

    Recall when President Reagan was shot. Haig made the statements to the press that "I'm in charge now." If you'll remember, he caught a lot of flack for that, and shortly thereafter, he was accused of various things that ruined his name politically. This was done by members of Congress who were aware of his seat on the Omega Agency council, and they feared losing their claim to power. Haig jumped the gun in his statements, and ended up giving up his political position because of it. Had Reagan died, we would have had Bush as President, and Haig as Secretary of State. Two men in power who sit on the OA council. But because of the commotion raised by a few members of Congress, Haig faded into the background rather than risk exposure of his connection to the OA, or of the OA itself.

    Recall when the Gulf War started. Bush used the exact words "New World Order" in his speech to the country. He said it several times, that the Gulf War marked the beginning of a NWO. The Gulf War was not a war about oil or the freedom of the people of Kuwait. It was a test of how well multi-national troops under the guidance of the UN would react in a war situation. The same holds true for Somalia and Bosnia. Multi-national troops under the direction of the UN. The Omega Agency controls the UN.

    Bush didn't lose the election to Clinton. Bush needed to be out of the limelight of the presidency in order to concentrate on and escalate the plans of the Omega Agency. And in Clinton, they had a stooge who would not rock the boat and who would do what he was told. Notice how quick Clinton has been to commit US troops to UN peace-keeping forces here and there. Notice who Clinton appointed as Secretary of State - Madeline Albright, the UN lady. Notice who Clinton gave federal land to - the UN.

    Why the need for a one-world government? The reasoning of the Omega Agency is this: Crime is out of control on a world-wide basis, especially in the US. People are out of control, not taking responsibility for themselves or their actions. Population growth is out of control on a world-wide level. The judicial system of the US is a joke. The political system of the US and most countries world-wide is a joke, corrupted and polluted by greed and power-hungry people who don't care about the population they were elected or appointed to serve. Under the governing body the Omega Agency plans to put in power, this would end. End of trial by jury. End of living off of society and not contributing your fair share. End of taking advantage of others for one's own personal gain. All who are able would contribute to the growth and well-being of the world's society, or they would pay the price for not pulling their fair share.

    What is this price? Basically, it will be like this: Those who are able physically and mentally to work will do so. If you have a job/profession at the time that the OA takes over, you will continue in that job/profession. If you are drawing welfare, but are physically able to work, you will work. Personal freedoms to come and go as one pleases world-wide will not change. Basically, the OA doesn't care what people do to amuse themselves, entertain themselves, etc., as long as they are working and contributing to the society as a whole. But there will be zero tolerance of any act tha

  15. Ugh... IPTables.... by zulux · · Score: 1, Redundant



    OpenBSD has PF - a really cool packet/nat/authentication/bandwidth limiter/port forwarding system that is really, really, cool

    You can do clever things, like allow a certain amount of bandwith for sombody, but if they log in, the bandwith limit disappears.

    Or parse the spam blackout litsts and block all incoming packets from them (spam trype networks have more that their fair share of crackers)

    All withouht crypic config files.

    I *REALLY* hope, for Linux's sake, that after FreeBSD ports PF (to replace their IPF), a Linux port will be forthcoming.

    IPTables is just fine for simple firewalls, but PF has a much more sane syntax, and it can handle really complex networks without a headache.

    PF is sooo good - it's worth learing a bit of OpenBSD to get it. If you're good at Linux - it will take to half a day to learn all you need to get PF on OpenBSD working, and that includes installing OpenBSD.

    It's not hard at all - I came from a Windows background and dident even know VI and it only took me three days to learn enough about OpenBSD to get it working.

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    1. Re:Ugh... IPTables.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you bother to read the presentation he covers OpenBSD/PF as well as FreeBSD/IPFW. . .

    2. Re:Ugh... IPTables.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
      It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying

      Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

      You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

      Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

      OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

      Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

      All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

      Fact: *BSD is dead

    3. Re:Ugh... IPTables.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      I watch a lot of gay scat movies. Have I seen you in one of them? Maybe "Fecal Feast 6"? "Shit Sandwich, Lots of Mayo"?

  16. JFFNMS by szysz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Another tool to monitor a Cisco-based or other networks is JFFNMS

    It can monitor TCP Ports, Network cards, CPU, Memory, Disks, all using standard SNMP, with no client side scripts.

    You can integrate it with your OSS using various RPC methods, everything is stored in MySQL or PostgreSQL.

    Its very extensible too...

    Javier
    It's my own project. :)

    --
    - Smells Like Open Source Code
    1. Re:JFFNMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err, you dropped a w in your link.

  17. HP OpenView by topside420 · · Score: 3, Informative
    HP OpenView is what we use to manage thousands of network nodes/hubs. Everything is displayed in a hub/spoke fashion and it easily intigrates with all your equiptment using the SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol). Not open source, however this tool would be easily adopted by any *nix lover. Everything is easily scriptable, and the GUI is based 100% off command-line apps. So, anything you can do in the GUI can be scripted and alarms can be HIGHLY customized, reports generated on site statistic, you can even view real-time graphs of performance, packet-rate, utilization, etc of any single interface, or multiple interfaces on the same graph.

    Another tool of use is the Cisco Transport Controller...we use this to monitor a fiber network up in MA.

    1. Re:HP OpenView by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last time I checked HP OpenView is not Open Source. You wouldn't happen to work for HP would you!? That way they might be willing to give you a nice commision check once 'any *nix lover' sells a kidney in South America to pay for OpenView.

    2. Re:HP OpenView by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, he said that it isn't open source. Anyway, I'm sure he just wanted to impress the linux kids by saying "I know how OpenView works!" and "I manage large networks!" when in reality he's only a janitor who heard some network geeks talking about network management in the cafeteria. Simply ignore him.

    3. Re:HP OpenView by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      take a look at his homepage: he's an everquest player. what a sissy little loser kid...

    4. Re:HP OpenView by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you just slashdotted his little site! He is now over his 10MB of monthly traffic limit. lol

    5. Re:HP OpenView by RicoX9 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have run both. I like NOT having to mortgage everything to buy the software, then finding out that to run it right, you need to sell your firstborn for the hardware to run it on. For the price of the Sun hardware you need to run OV, you could buy the x86 hardware to monitor and manage a LARGE network.

      I used to work as an SE for Cisco, ran a mid-sized ISP's network, owned a computer store, and have run a couple of corporate networks(not bragging, just qualifying my experience, Cisco SE's are highly technical salespeople, some very good some bad). I was an Open Source advocate before I went in, and nothing I saw there changed my opinion. Open View, Cisco Works, etc can all be easily replaced by Open Source tools. These tools do the job as well or better for the cost of a few x86 boxes and your time.

      The time factor is still there in the proprietary systems, as you have to learn, configure and maintain them just like the OS tools. There *are* situations where something like Open View is the solution. Probably 99% of the time, you're better off (or at least as good) using the OS tools and contributing back to the community.

      I use Nagios, Netdisco, RANCID, and MRTG/RRDTool. I love these articles on Slashdot because I'm always finding links to new tools to try.

    6. Re:HP OpenView by delong · · Score: 2, Funny

      But OV costs an arm and a leg. And paying people with experience in OV costs and arm and a leg.

      Even WorldCom (formerly UUNET) doesn't use OV for its hosting datacenters. Too expensive. They use open source tools on linux.

    7. Re:HP OpenView by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up, please

  18. NMIS by mikus · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've been using NMIS (http://sins.com.au/nmis) for about 2 years and it's better than any commercial NMS I've seen and used. Even our management turned down the likes of OpenView and Patrol in favor of it (of course cost helped that as well :). It's got it quirks, and isn't very modular unless you know perl reasonable well, but oob in a cisco network it's great with support for other vendors slowly growing. The developers are supportive via their email list as well. If you're in the need of an monitoring platform and your PHB's aren't afraid of open source apps, NMIS should definately be given a look.

    --mb

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  19. Are you high? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, I want some of that.

  20. :-D happy happy :-D joy joy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    hello people:

    let it be known that one (1):

    COMMANDER TACO
    aka rob malda

    is an OPEN SOURCE TOOL

    thank you very much :-D

    1. Re::-D happy happy :-D joy joy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh my god, why don't I have mod points :-)

      Good one, really. I bow to your talent.

  21. Xen by mihai · · Score: 1

    You may try Xen http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/

  22. It's good, not bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Why is it bad if someone posts an informative comment?

    1. Re:It's good, not bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what, go fuck yourself, fucking jerk off, asshole guy--Andrew Dice Clay.

    2. Re:It's good, not bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because I HATE HIM, I HATE HIM, I HATE HIM!!! He's using the system to show that it doesn't work.

  23. Link Looks awful in Mozilla by earthforce_1 · · Score: 0, Offtopic


    Did anybody else find that?
    (Was Ok with IE, but rather ironic finding a site on open source tools displays correctly only for a closed source browser.

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    My rights don't need management.
    1. Re:Link Looks awful in Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks fine in Mozilla for me. It is powered by PostNuke so your eyes may just lean more tward closed source viewing.

    2. Re:Link Looks awful in Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it looked like poo in Firebird also here. IE was fine. It's probably just a bad PN theme, but wouldn't you think these open source advocates use something other than IE and thus notice the problem.

    3. Re:Link Looks awful in Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Looks pretty good in OpenCavity though. Check it out, it's 100% open source, as you will immediately recognize.

    4. Re:Link Looks awful in Mozilla by Indy1 · · Score: 1

      i'll second that. It looked like complete shit, and i pretty much closed the window with in seconds. Piss poor web design.

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  24. Here is Microsoft's competition: by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    Here is the closed source competition: Microsoft OTG Reduces Print Servers--From 30 Down to 4--By Consolidating with Windows Server 2003.

    Quote: "Here's the story of how they consolidated print servers from 30 servers running Windows NT Server to only four servers running Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition."

    1. Re:Here is Microsoft's competition: by afidel · · Score: 1

      Looks good but it's 1/10th the size and not nearly as flexible. For instance when we shut down one facility we just moved the physical printers into the area the employees would be occupying in the new building and transfered the queue's and DNS assignment to the new locations existing print server, almost no client side changes and very little muss on the printer side, I know the MS solution wouldn't be that easy =) But really going from 6 admins for one campus to one and all for only 1K printers isn't that tremendous, it never should have been that bad to begin with!

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  25. OpenNMS v. Nagios by buddha42 · · Score: 1

    I'd be curious to hear peoples experiences with OpenNMS compared to Nagios.

    1. Re:OpenNMS v. Nagios by Brian+the+Wise · · Score: 3, Informative

      Greetings...

      We started using Nagios just over a year ago as something quick and simple while we were building our infrastructure (was still beta in those days). It does the job if you have a small site, but does not scale well. We've just switched over to OpenNMS. It does take a lot more effort to configure and get up and running (especially as we're not running it on Linux), but it's worth it for the additional flexibility and features you get. It helps if you have someone who understands Java for the implimentation as the documentation is a LOT more incomplete than Nagios.

      If you understand SNMP and systems monitoring and management then OpenNMS is for you. If not, then go for Nagios.

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      --- Brian the Wise Friend to Small Fury Animals Everywhere...
  26. OpenNMS by lordrich · · Score: 1

    And openNMS does what exactly? There's a vague description on the website, but its not terribly helpful. Screenshots anybody?

    1. Re:OpenNMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They (screenshots) are in the presentation and there is a nice link on the OpenNMS site to an article on the IBM site explaining OpenNMS. . .

    2. Re:OpenNMS by Ewan · · Score: 1

      it's like hp openview, it tries to provide a nice looking interface for managing your network, both monitoring and configuring.

  27. Open Source Network Administration by BobSutan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been reading the Open Source Network Administration book by James Kretchmar (review here in fact) and its been a really good read. Really applicable to the subject in my opinion.

    Just my $.02 on the subject.

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    "On a scale from 1 to 10, people are stupid"
  28. more scanning tools by cnb · · Score: 1

    SPAM/VIRUS/WORM SCANNING

    amavis - http://amavis.org/
    qmail-scanner - http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/
    dspam - http://www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dspam/

  29. MRTG? Upgrade to Cricket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The authors of the LAS should have mentioned Cricket.
    Which is a much evolved performance trending system. For those looking to trend data from routers, switches, firewalls, servers, sensors, files. Cricket offers a very flexible configuration method. It is all in perl, so very easy to support, extend and integrate. It includes a grapher, a collector and a configuration system.

    It does what it does well.

    The system also offers easy integration with event management systems open-source or not. It scales well to a great number of devices.

    Plus a brand new version just came out! Get it while it is hot.

    http://cricket.sourceforge.net

  30. Re:The Omega Agency - the truth about New World Or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rick Berman called. He wants his crappy Star Trek plot back!

  31. Why is there nothing professional? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Hello!

    I really do wonder why an OS like Linux, which is very strong in the server market, does not have professional grade network management software?

    The mentioned tools are nice toys but nothing more. Why are there no free professional tools which support network management standards such as RMON, SAA, NetFlow, etc in a decent way?

    I know that there is StableNet PME and Infovista announced to bring their tools to Linux next year.
    So there seems to be a market. What holds back the open source community to develop free alternatives?

  32. Don't kid yourself, NFS can be secure. by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 1

    But no one wanted to set up GSS or Kerberos 5 years back, so it never caught on.

    Lot more complicated than /net/machine/share...

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    1. Re:Don't kid yourself, NFS can be secure. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How does that affect performance?

    2. Re:Don't kid yourself, NFS can be secure. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      holy shit

      not only ayanami rei is a kickass beautiful mecha pilot, but she knows nfs too... a geek`s dream come true...really.

  33. Not sure. But it's definitely slower. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  34. albino to boot (no really) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    attention is nice, sometimes.

  35. backup utilities by m_c_rose · · Score: 1

    my company uses netbackup for all out backup needs we have evaluated many options, but find due to lack of support from other vendors when used with non supported solutions, OSS is not a feasible solution. Our company is a 99.9% solution provider and if something breaks there must be a chain of monetary responsibility. Veritas gives us the support we need and all of our other vendors support netbackup. we do have a couple linux servers but for the most part we are a sun environment, which takes us full circle to supported configurations and a 4 hour service window.