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Recycling TV Ads

Makarand writes "According to this article in the Denver Post a young entrepreneur has gotten into the business of recycling junked TV commercials for clients with low budgets. TV ads cost anywhere between $50,000 and $1 million and small businesses usually cannot afford an original production. The company, Thought Equity, wipes off all references to the earlier company and makes the junked commerical ready for reselling with a price tag less than $10,000. Also businesses that want their ads on the air as soon as possible are approaching the company seeking recycled ads because producing original ads takes time."

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  1. meow mix by cRueLio · · Score: 3, Funny

    wow! i wonder how they'll use that old meow mix commercial...

  2. Makes you realize... by TheLoneDanger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Makes you realize just how little the ads actually have to do with their products. The Simpsons episode with the artsy-fartsy commerical for Mr. Plow skewered this nicely.

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    1. Re:Makes you realize... by Aardpig · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, when I lived in England, you could always spot the ones coming from Germany; not only was the dubbing appalling, but the fake tan gave away the game every single time. Orange skin? No thanks, Hans, I don't want your chocolate egg with a surprising plastic toy cunningly hidden in the centre...

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  3. nothing new by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Funny
    slashdot has been recycling stories for years.

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    1. Re:nothing new by bakes · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I've seen a few episodes of JAG, and seen re-cycled footage from Top Gun, Hunt for Red October and Clear and Present Danger, and that is just the stuff that I recognised.

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    2. Re:nothing new by jCaT · · Score: 3, Funny

      ok, now this is showing my true geekiness... MacGyver did the same thing! They used some top gun footage for one episode, and the majority of the mini chase scene from the original "Italian Job".

      Now, when I was a kid I had no idea, but it's blatantly obvious now...

  4. Dell Commercial by superpulpsicle · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Dude you're getting viagra."

    1. Re:Dell Commercial by Schlopper · · Score: 5, Funny

      More like:

      DUDE, you're getting a boner.

    2. Re:Dell Commercial by s20451 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Dude, ask your doctor if Viagra is right for you."

      (much faster voice)"Possible side effects include extreme flatulence, delusions, uncontrollable swearing, and growth of a third arm. You should not take this medication while children are present. Tell your doctor if you experience dizziness, heartburn, or become president of the united states."

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  5. I can just imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Come to your (chevy) store and get a new (chevy blazer) built (chevy) tough.

  6. Ultimate ad secret by vivek7006 · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) Make an ad with bunch of hot chics in bikinis.

    2) Recycle this ad to sell anything from breakfast cereals to Pentium-4 chips

    3) Profit !!

    1. Re:Ultimate ad secret by hurtstotouchfire · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I'm seeing this as a brilliant opportunity for more tongue in cheek ads. There are some ads I definitly wouldn't mind seeing recycled over and over again with different companies. Plus there's the added humor value of seeing a commercial that you know for sure used to be a weight-loss commercial and hey now it's a beer commercial!

      It's also beautiful in a philosophical sense, it just really shows how far our ads have drifted from the actual point of an ad, which I suppose is to say something about the product.

      I think it's all going to depend on this: "The key is how many clients are small enough and isolated enough and sophisticated enough to know they are isolated and still be willing to do this?"

      And also their media partners. They listed Comcast, Collegiate Images and Index stock on the home page. If they've got enough cash behind them, it's likely that the legal issues will be negotiable.

      Incidentally, can anyone find a clip of that beer commercial where they're making fun of the fact that they can't actually drink beer on television?

  7. Ad for Keanu Reeves movie #1000324 by mattjb0010 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Whoa, dude!"

  8. This is your server.. by k98sven · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is your server running on Windows XP..
    *cracks egg*

    (Sorry.. too obvious?)

  9. this reminds me of... by hookedup · · Score: 5, Funny


    The Simpsons Kamp Krusty episode, when 'Mr Black' was dubbed over Krusty's voice in the video.

    Krusty: (on TV) Hi Kids! Welcome to Kamp Krusty! Hoo huh hoo heh ha heh! I'll see you in a few weeks! Until then, I turn things over to my bestest buddy in the whole wide world, Mr. Black . I want you to treat Mr. Black with the same respect you would give me. Now here's Mr. Black

    1. Re:this reminds me of... by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Have you seen the ads for the law firm where the insurance exec says "He got Lawyer and Laywer. Let's settle this one."? They cut away from the actor's face right before he says the firm name. That's a generic ad. They run it in every TV market with a different law firm, using the same high technology used by Kamp Krusty.

      I wish I owned the company that made that ad for 20 grand and sold it to 50 law firms for 10 grand.

      -B

  10. That explains the commerical that was just on: by CSharpMinor · · Score: 3, Funny

    Want.

    Desire.

    Obsession.

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  11. Hmm.. by noname3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't a familiar scene and tune already associated with another product just be free advertising for the previous product? If I see that "I am Canadian" speech in commercials, I'll still think of Molson even if it's about commemerative coins from the mint.

    When people use stock photos in ads they generally photoshop in other junk, but with tv commercials being so expensive I'm going to expect a lot of identical commercials with different names tacked on the end. After all, it's targeted to those with low budgets.

  12. international reselling by attonitus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article seems to talk about unused ads. However, I bet that there'd be companies that would be prepared to see an ad that actually aired reused overseas. A nice side effect of this would be that north americans might actually get to see some witty adverts if they had UK creatives working on them.

  13. Yeah, sure, that'll work by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can just picture the Chihuahua go "Yo quiero MSN" or "You got Windows, right?"

    Nah, that won't work ...

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  14. They're not talking about used ads. by musingmelpomene · · Score: 5, Informative

    They probably are talking about campaigns that you've never seen, because they were never used.

    I work at an advertising agency (I know, I know) and one of the most interesting things about it is to see how much money is wasted writing, editing, and producing ads that never see the light of day because the client thinks it's too edgy, or doesn't like blue carpet, or thinks the whole campaign is a bad idea because his sister told him so.

    At the end of all this, there are hundreds of commercials that are brilliantly done and well-produced - that you've never, ever seen. Many are probably edgier and more interesting than anything you've ever seen as a television ad.

    I'd be interested to see what these turn out to be!

  15. It's been done... "Your Name Here" by neurojab · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Have a look at "Your Name Here" on the internet archive... It's designed to be generic, and takes some great cheap shots at the advertising industry

    http://www.archive.org/movies/movies-details-db. ph p?collection=prelinger&collectionid=01681

  16. Recycle *Old* Ads? by graveyardjohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Heck, they're recycling *new* adverts for different regions of the world! When a firm can't be bothered to shoot a new advert for a product, no matter how cheap the first advert was, they just chuck some voice-over actors into an overdub studio for a different world market. It really instills confidence in the product and respect for their intended audience.

    And in some cases, adverts are recycled from pop-culture, current affairs, and famous events. Tons of adverts barely even feature the product in question. Should anyone remember the product the old advert was selling, there could be some interesting humourous cut-and-paste opportunities in the offing....

    1. Re:Recycle *Old* Ads? by yobbo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Voiceover? What's that? Our Subway ads in Australia have the same old yank talking. Their advertising pitch also says how many pounds some fat prick lost..... we use metric buddy, NFI what a pound is.

    2. Re:Recycle *Old* Ads? by turpie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm not sure whats worse the Subway ads with the US accents or all the other imported ads that have been so obviously redubbed. At least the Subway ads are honest in cheapness.

      I don't mind when the ads look expensive, but when its something stupid like two women talking about dishwashing liquid thats a different matter. How come the local transmission specialist can put more effort into his ads in a regional city of 150,000 people, than a multinational company advertising nationwide.

      The funny thing about the Subway ads are that we didn't get all the early Jared ads, so the only reason we know about him is because of the SouthPark sendup. I can just picture the executives seeing Jareds exposure through SouthPark as a good reason to bring his ads out to Australia.

    3. Re:Recycle *Old* Ads? by ePhil_One · · Score: 3, Funny
      That's because saying you lost 20 pounds sounds more impressive than saying you lost 10 kilos. Duh!

      Oviously you fix the ad to say "This fat prick just lost 10,000 grams eating hoagies, and you could to!"

      Ten Thousand is a pretty big number

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  17. Great by macemoneta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now even the commercials are in reruns.

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  18. Re:Middle man? by jcam2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Reminds me of that Simpsons episode in which Krusty has a generic ad in which he says "I heartily endorse this product or service".

  19. I've been doing the same thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...but with webpages. I remove all references to the original company, but have missed a few meta tags from time to time.

  20. Actors getting paid again? by xenoc_1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nowhere in the article nor on their site did I see anything about the actors getting additional residuals. Even in major cities, most "working actors" are barely making it, working day jobs in IT or restaurants or wherever, and occassionally getting a commercial for scale.

    Wonder if the kung-fu guys knew their work was being reused years later. Whatever the original actors' contract said, it's certainly unfair to "re-purpose" these ads for additional advertisers without additional compensation. Wonder what SAG or AFTRA would have to say.

    1. Re:Actors getting paid again? by mrbill · · Score: 4, Informative

      Doesn't really matter, if they were paid as a work-for-hire, or were paid scale by the hour. Most likely, they were paid for the work they did, and the ad agency owns all rights to the commercial.

      A similar example - I wrote a chapter for a computer book a couple of years ago, and was paid per-page for the work I did. I found out a year or so later that they (the publishing company) had re-used my chapter in a newer edition of the book (Solaris 9 cert study guide versus the Sol8 one I wrote for) . However, that was well within their right, as it was a work-for-hire and they owned all rights to what I'd produced and could do what they wanted with it.

    2. Re:Actors getting paid again? by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Informative

      Doesn't really matter, if they were paid as a work-for-hire, or were paid scale by the hour. Most likely, they were paid for the work they did, and the ad agency owns all rights to the commercial.


      Actually, it does matter. I am a former board member at SAG, and I was on the negotiating team for the last TV and Theatrical contract. I know most of the people who negotiated our Commercial contract, and I've been a member of the union for over 25 years.

      Our contracts are really clear about this sort of thing. While the ad agency may own the creative rights to the commercial, if the ad was produced by a signatory agency, using union actors, the agency has to go back and renegotiate with the actors if they hope to "repurpose" the ad. Usually, this results in the actors getting a "buy out" for a certain number of cycles and markets. My mom just went through this with a commercial she did over a year ago, that the agency is bringing back next month.

      This protection is one of the many benefits SAG and AFTRA members have. I used to do improv with this girl who was in an AOL commercial. I don't reacall what it was about, but it ran almost every break, nationally and on cable, a few years ago. She wasn't in the union, and did the spot as a non-union hire. She got a "buy out" from the agency . . . for 500 dollars. Had it been a SAG job, she would have made more than that for the session fee, and at least ten times that on residuals. As it ended up, that one day's worth of work really hurt her, because those geniuses at all the ad agencies immediately labled her "The AOL Girl," and wouldn't hire her for anything else.

      A similar example - I wrote a chapter for a computer book a couple of years ago, and was paid per-page for the work I did. I found out a year or so later that they (the publishing company) had re-used my chapter in a newer edition of the book (Solaris 9 cert study guide versus the Sol8 one I wrote for) . However, that was well within their right, as it was a work-for-hire and they owned all rights to what I'd produced and could do what they wanted with it.

      The comparison you made between writing work and SAG work is interesting, but it's really not valid. That comparison would apply more toward something the work I did on TNG. While I "created" Wesley Crusher, and my likeness is inextricably linked with him, if Paramount wants to write "The Adventures Of Wesley Crusher At Star Fleet Academy" as a series of books for kids, they can do that, and I they don't owe me a cent. They own the character the same way the company you wrote for owns your work. If they want to sell an action figure that's clearly my likeness, they have to pay me royalties on that. (But, since it's Paramount, I usually end up with .00006 % of what I'm actually owed.)

  21. That ad *was* recycled... by Goonie · · Score: 4, Funny
    Well, not actually recycled, but remade (with all the Canadian references replaced with Australian ones) to sell Fosters Lager on Australian TV during the Sydney Olympics. The Fosters version was worse, however. The Molson ad was clearly tongue-in-cheek, but the Fosters ad took itself seriously.

    At least it failed - no self-respecting Aussie drinks Fosters, then or now:)

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  22. Sometimes I get that not-so-fresh feeling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was thinking more along the lines of Iron Eyes Cody (The crying Indian from those Keep America Beautiful ads) walking up to the monitor to observe the shockingly garish XP desktop theme. A tear runs silently down his left cheek. Que ending credit: "People Start Polluting the server room, People Can Stop It"

  23. I can see it now... by JoeShmoe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sappy slow music plays. We zoom in on two women walking along the beach.

    Young woman: Mom, can I ask you a personal question?

    Older woman: Sure dear, what?

    Young woman: Have you ever...you know...felt LIKE USING AOL?

    Older woman: Oh my goodness. Yes dear, there have been times like that, times when I wasn't feeling so fresh. That's why I always trust EARTHLINK. You see, EARTHLINK gives me back that clean feeling.

    Young woman: Really mother? How does it work?

    Older woman: You simply insert the EARTHLINK applicator into your CDROM DRIVE and let it cleanse and soothe your COMPUTER.

    Yound woman: Wow mom, that sounds like just what I need, where can I get EARTHLINK?

    Older woman: I have some right here in my purse!

    (Laughter)

    - JoeShmoe
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  24. *sigh* by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Informative

    For all the people who didn't read the article, but commented anyway:

    This company is NOT re-using previously aired ads. They are taking ads that were filmed, but never aired, giving them a once over, then selling them. They are buying these ads off the company that filmed them. They are not ripping off other companies commercials, icons, or jingles. They are buying other companies rejects, improving them, then selling them.

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  25. Hmm... not really seeing this as a big money maker by popo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Advertising agencies typically make most of their revenue as buyers and resellers of media. The "creative" tends to be a small part of the overall billing. (In fact, in the old days ad agencies didn't charge fees for their creative services *at all*, revenues were generated by purchasing blocks of media at a discount from the broadcast companies, and upselling the media to the client. The creative was a 'free' service that the agency used to provide for the right to sell the client the airtime). Today ad agencies bill at rates that are closer to traditional service companies, but: in the broadcast advertising realm, these billings still don't come close to the revenue generated from a single network media buy.

    In other words: If your client is buying airtime on broadcast television -- he's probably not going to nickel and dime you on the creative.

    Second -- the really *choice* old spots are owned by the companies that paid for them -- even if they never aired. If a repurposed spot costs about $10k, it means the rights to the old footage cost far less than that. I can't imagine many big companies being interested in selling their old footage for small change like that...
    And if its not a big company, the spot probably sucked anyway. So my guess is while this sounds like a new groovy digital rights marketplace, its probably full of dreck.

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  26. This has already been done with industrial films by Black+Art · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Your Name Here Story did the same thing years ago.

    We already have form letters, form movies, and form music. Not surprising we get form commercials as well.

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  27. My concept by satanami69 · · Score: 3, Funny

    People are sitting, all facing a giant TV monitor. From the back of the room, a spikey haired female runs with a hammer. She stops, throws the hammer at the monitor, and shatters the giant face keeping people down.

    The ad...buy MS Longhorn.

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  28. Dilbert's take by santos_douglas · · Score: 4, Funny
    Ad Exec: "Dilbert, you just don't understand the creative process."

    Dilbert: "You stole the entire idea from our competitors ad."

    Ad Exec: "Ok, so I guess you do understand the creative process."

    ~paraphrased from the Gruntmaster 6000 episode

  29. Attorney ads have done this for years by Slur · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's a classic accident representation attorney ad that's been circulating in lots of cities for a long while. The commercial is shot in black and white, which heightens the drama. The setting is the office of an Insurance Company's legal staff where the evil insurance lawyers are discussing the details of a new claim. The attorneys are arrogantly joking about how they're going to deny the claim. One of the older lawyers finally asks "Who's their lawyer?"

    Then they use the trick that makes the ad reusable. The camera cuts away to a hilarious reaction shot as the attorney's name is matter-of-factly spoken.

    "James Sokolov"

    All the young attorneys suddenly look up, visibly shaken. After a few moments of uncomfortable silence the camera cuts back to the older lawyer who says:

    "Uh. Let's settle this thing."

    I've seen the same ad many times in different cities, always with a different lawyer's name. I've seen a few different versions with different actors and dialog. I always laugh when they get to the cutaway shot.

    I find that if I say "Unfrozen Caveman Attorney" at the cutaway the reaction seems even funnier.

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  30. Viagra ad featuring Feiss by sacrilicious · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was doing this guy I met, and he was, like, uh uh uh damn oh no. And then, like, half of his equipment was shriveled. And I was, like huh. It disrupted my sex. It was really good sex. And then I had to do it again and I had to do it fast so it wasn't as good. It's kind of a... ... bummer.

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