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Redhat Reports 90% Return Subscription Rate

jasonbowen writes "In this article from ZDnet, Redhat claims a 90% return subscription rate for its Enterprise line. Sounds like Redhat is doing just fine providing a quality product for people that want to pay the money for it." (And for people who don't want to pay money for it, too.)

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  1. Why by PktLoss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is this the result of corporations really beleiving in the quality of the product, and its usefullness in their corporation?

    Or have corporations just not yet had the chance to fully investigate the red hat alternatives since the desktop line went kaput.

    We have been QA'ing a new default burn for desktops for the past 6-8mnths, in the meantime, we keep purchasing what we had before.

    If there is going to be a dip because of the drop of the desktop line I wouldn't expect it untill at least next quarter

    1. Re:Why by Frymaster · · Score: 3, Insightful
      while we're being clear....

      this is a return subscription we're talking about here. these are people who are already using rhel. this should not be interpreted to mean "all those people who were using rh 9 gladly upgraded to a more expensive version".

  2. I Miss RedHat Network by DeckerEgo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After months of therapy, I finally came to terms with the fact that I'm upset because RHN is gone. They locked my entitlements and prefs, and so now I can't manage the scores of machines I have deployed. I'm reasonably okay with the whole Enterprise-Fedora concept where there is one supported enterprise product and one free personal edition, but I just feel kinda worried about when my RHN subscription goes away for good and another buffer overflow exploit comes around.

  3. Subscription by hcuar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Isn't a yearly subscription the same thing Micro$oft considered for their software model, and people brought their pitchforks and torches?

    1. Re:Subscription by BenjyD · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ah, but you see, Red Hat will give you support and ermmm... timely updates. Unlike any other distribution, where you just get the updates. I guess the main point is that for the kind of task you use a four processor machine for, a few thousand dollars isn't much to pay for peace of mind.

      Does anyone have any experience with RedHat support? Is it worth the money?

    2. Re:Subscription by dr-suess-fan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For us, releasing a production redhat server for a
      mission critical app would be a very tough sell in our organization. Our Unix team doesn't need support
      generally, but then there have been times when we've
      found a bug and were quite happy to open a case with
      Redhat and ask them to figure it out.

      It's not really about needing support or not IMO, but rather the opportunity to pass off an issue to someone in a better position to investigate.

      My experience with Redhat support has been very
      positive so far. The 'one who answers the phone'
      actually knows Unix/Linux well enough to do some
      preliminary research before escalating to back-line support.

      For us, we're used to paying for Sun service at
      a silver level and while this includes hardware, 799$US per year for Redhat support is a good
      deal in our opinion.

      HTH

  4. Re:If they're doing so well.. by Erwos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What do you think Fedora is?

    It's not like RedHat just handed them a site and told them to get on with it. RedHat employees are very actively involved with the whole thing, and are contributing tons of code.

    -Erwos

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    Plausible conjecture should not be misrepresented as proof positive.
  5. umm by HBI · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This doesn't say jack about conversion rate from 6.x-9.x Red Hat to the Enterprise product though.

    I am interested in that. You would assume that people who bought the enterprise product would pay for their support - otherwise why buy it?

    Sounds like the bleeding obvious to me. They lowball an expectation and their analysis is proved flawed. This is news? Must be a slow day.

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    HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
  6. Doublethink. by Performer+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That is a pretty blatant example of doublethink propaganda. Red Had drops support and release for RHx, and we see an article singing their praises on how great a job they're dowing throwing Fedora over the fence because they can claim some customer retention on the Enterprise front.

    No it's not a great job, the reasonably priced support option is gone, and there's nothing they offer between outlandishly expensive enterprise support and free no support. For an Operating system they mostly package, not author, they are doing a really bad job at providing affordable support options or stable releases that the ordinary user might want (like the vast majority of Linux users using RHx who were abandoned). Of course they have explicitly said they're not interested in that business, (probably abandoned to protect margins in the Enterprise business). Why anyone would pretend this is all rosy and RH are doing a great job after leaving such a gaping wound on the Linux desktop is beyond me.

  7. No, probably just tired people by greygent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People tired of having to go through the process of creating RHN demo accounts for EACH machine just so they can install the security patches to vulnerabilities coming out, apparently, several times a week, as of late.

    Hell, even Microsoft doesn't force you to go through a lengthly (or much of any, besides activation) registration in order to use Windows Update. It also seems like Red Hat is neck and neck with Microsoft concerning number of vulnerabilities, as of late.

    Now that Red Hat is becoming more popular, I see these problems only getting worse.

  8. and again: the looooosers are... ACADEMIA by dummkopf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    think about it: RH claims 90% of their customers are loyal because they are keeping their subscriptions. the important question is:

    How many customers of RH did actually pay for a subscription before the change? And from those how did not pay (but were loyal Rh customers), how many are sticking with it?

    The ones who paid before the kaboom do not care in spending bick bucks. The users who supported redhat but could not afford such a pricey OS definitely will not stick with it -- as it is the case in Academia! If RH were smart, they would offer site licenses for academia and big clusters.

    I am willing to be my officemate (he is a good catch) that from the RH users who did NOT pay in the first place, 90% will switch to another OS if RH does not offer something "in-between". How about also releasing this information, RH?

    (As one always learns in statistics: the outcome depends on HOW you present the data, and not what it actually looks like...)

  9. What about wanting to pay for a consumer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It really pisses me off that when people complain about the disappearance of Redhat Linux (consumer version), everyone assumes that they wanted a freeby?

    I ALWAYS paid for RH linux, because it was stable and did what I wanted, and had supported updates.

    Fedora does not meet this requirement, and I don't need a corporate version.

    I want to keep paying and getting RH linux.

    But Redhat screwed me. Why should I do business with some that treats me that way?