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Viruses Find A New Host: Cell Phones

An anonymous reader writes "A NYTimes article (free reg) describes the dangers posed by viruses as 3G and text-messaging become more common, inluding an incident in '01 where numerous phones in Japan began calling 110 (equivalent to 911 in the U.S.). Wired mentions 13M vulnerable phones in Japan alone." (And that was a few years ago.)

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  1. Virus as surveillance ware by Wardish · · Score: 4, Insightful

    After the recent use's of in vehicle mounted cell phones for surveillance I would how long it will be before they (they being anyone legal or not who has a reason to listen) infect your cell phone with snoop and control software.

    *chuckle* The next couple of decades are going to be interesting.

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  2. Reg Free NYT Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  3. They are not Viruses by phunster · · Score: 4, Funny

    They are Virii

    1. Re:They are not Viruses by Aliencow · · Score: 4, Funny

      And we're both genii !

  4. This is an opportunity to get it right by Lupulack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The internet wasn't designed with security in mind , but these new 3G/4G phones can be.
    Isn't this a chance to do things right , rather than repeat the design oversights of the past?

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  5. API by the+uNF+cola · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There should NEVER be an api to mess with the phone numbers and dialing.

    keep them seperate from your applications. otherwise you have these silly problems.

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    1. Re:API by bloodrose · · Score: 2, Informative

      Silly problems will arise whether or not an API is present or not. Murphy's Law and all.
      The only thing one prevents by locking out developers is a steady pace of progress.

    2. Re:API by wfberg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There should NEVER be an api to mess with the phone numbers and dialing.


      So, no third party addressbooks/PIMs, no handy apps that prepend special *# network codes for roaming purposes (as used in some SIM toolkit applications for international roaming w/ prepaid phones), no apps that encrypt your phone conversation end-to-end using normal (not VOIP) connections so you don't need to use a data stream, etc..

      Actually, that's exactly what the networks want! No third-party messing with calls, complete network services lock-in! So no worries there, then.

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  6. costs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Japan should charge the phone company for each fake call to recover costs.

    If companies are held financially liable it will force them to do a better job of programming and testing software.

    1. Re:costs by whiteranger99x · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Japan should charge the phone company for each fake call to recover costs.

      Oh yeah, THAT'S a real good idea, all the phone companies have to do is suck up the charges to save face and then pass the bill onto their customers as a anti-spoofing tax or something like that.

      If companies are held financially liable it will force them to do a better job of programming and testing software.

      *Chortles* Right...

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    2. Re:costs by whiteranger99x · · Score: 3, Informative

      just like how all the software companies should be held liable for thier faults. The only thing is no matter how good a programing job one does there is always a way around it.

      I couldn't agree more, there will always be someone around to circumvent or exploit exisiting code for their own purposes, be it good or evil. While I don't like playing the blame game with software companies and software, they should be liable for any damage their software (intentional or otherwise), especially if it interferes with emergency or mission critical systems. Of course, maybe I'm being too idealistic, or Polyanna as it were...

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    3. Re:costs by murphyslawyer · · Score: 2, Insightful
      • If companies are held financially liable it will force them to do a better job of programming and testing software.
      I realize I'm sort of feeding a troll here, but everytime this sort of "Company A wrote buggy code" thing comes up, somebody starts harping for the company to have to be responsible for their code. Say Microsoft has to be financially responsible for the problems generated from their code - they'll just change the EULA to say "If this software kills your system or eats your children, it's not our problem. If you don't like it, use something else." In fact, I'm pretty sure it says about that right now.

      Of course, we could pass some sort of law saying that companies couldn't EULA their way out of responsibility, but that carries another whole bag of worms with it. Do you really want to be responsible for all the code you write for all time? That sort of thing would kill free software as we know it, since only large corporations would have deep enough pockets to fully test their stuff AND be prepared to fend off the inevitable lawsuits.

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    4. Re:costs by BuckaBooBob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Software companies should be held liable for bad/poor practices. Most exploits are based off a few concepts which are a result of poor programming practices....

      Every Student in a univeristy that takes any sort of programming (Well any learning institution for that matter) should be taught Proper programming practices. That would include Exploits and how to write "Trustworthy" code.

      When you look at the trend, Buffer/Stack overflows make up a massive majority of exploits. But since it is a well known problem a solution.. We should be able to be in a environment where these "Mistakes" shouldn't be repeated on a on-going basis...

      The software industry seems exempt from liability where most other industries Do have some form of liability for continuing bad practices.

      So the problem isn't entirely the fault of the software industry itself.. Its also on the learning institutions for not producing programers that "know better" than to write bad code that will be exploitable by common methods. But the software industry should also be aware of this and use tools and develop better programming practices not to repeat history.

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    5. Re:costs by kavau · · Score: 2, Interesting
      If companies are held financially liable it will force them to do a better job of programming and testing software.

      *Chortles* Right...

      When has Microsoft ever been held financially responsible for the damage its product caused?

      Liability of the software maker is certainly a double-edged sword (think of Open Source contributors...). But don't you think if Microsoft were forced to pay some multi-billion dollar amounts for the damages caused by Blaster & Co., they would really start taking the whole security issue a bit more seriously?

  7. should be easy to fix by SemperUbi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't see why the protocol for text messaging can't be set so that only ASCII text is sent and received, making any kind of embedded script pointless. Then again, I don't know that much about cellphone protocols to begin with. It just seems as if it SHOULD be easy to prevent.

    1. Re:should be easy to fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Japanese #1: "My phone has a strange message, what does it say?"
      Japanese #2: "I do not know. I don't read ASCII either."

    2. Re:should be easy to fix by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Insightful

      VBScript is ASCII only, that doesnt stop the virus - the problem is the software on the phone is able to perform (or can be overflowed to produce) actions based on the input recieved.

      This problem will get worse if the sandbox around the gaming/user run utilties is weak or unsecure.

      It is also something that because devices are already out there would be difficult to prevent or fix. Perhaps requiring the Service provider automatically screening ALL txt messages with known exploits (This is also something the PC ISP's as a whole should do anyway, but thats a different subject).

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  8. More gadgets = more complication by NineNine · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is inevitable. As people buy more and more stupid gadgets, their lives become geometrically more complicated. Personally, I have a cell phone and I use it for... making telephone calls! No stupid wireless web, messaging, taking pictures, or whatever in the hell people are doing with phones these days. You want the stupid gadgets? You're going to pay for it up front in cash, you're going to pay in time to figure everything out, and you're going to pay in headaches. Rarely are new technologies worth the trouble. A computer is good in it's most basic uses, and a phone is good. All of those stupid ipods/pdas/superphones/etc aren't worth it.

    1. Re:More gadgets = more complication by whiteranger99x · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Personally, I have a cell phone and I use it for... making telephone calls! No stupid wireless web, messaging, taking pictures, or whatever in the hell people are doing with phones these days.

      I agree, I dont need a fucking phone that has everything, including the kitchen sink (although games are a plus :) I'm hesitant to upgrade my phone for that very reason, granted I'm not all that attached to my current phone and provider. I never could father how one could use a typical cell phone for instant messaging (AIM, Yahoo!, whatever) as its a royal pain in the ass to type stuff in.

      A computer is good in it's most basic uses, and a phone is good. All of those stupid ipods/pdas/superphones/etc aren't worth it.

      However, my stance on this is that to SOME people, the PDAs, iPODs, etc are worth their time, BUT I think people like buying those superphones as it were, only for the "gee whiz, look what bitchin' shit i got here" factor.

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    2. Re:More gadgets = more complication by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      As people buy more and more stupid software, their lives become geometrically more complicated. Personally, I have a computer and I use it for...computing! No stupid web, messaging, taking pictures or whatever the hell people are doing with computers these days. Etc..

      You're just scared of technology you're not used to. Get over it.

  9. today's dilbert addresses this issue by civilengineer · · Score: 5, Funny
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  10. spam / calls / address book by Dreadlord · · Score: 4, Insightful

    After thinking for a while I guess that phone viruses can be as dangerous as computer viruses, imagine a virus that sends itself to every phone in the address book, calls expensive/international numbers, spams a number till it can't be used any more...
    And I think phone viruses are becoming more and more possible through out the advances in phone technology.

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  11. Re:This is only going to get worse by robogun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Verizon (the one US provider I am familiar with) already does this, but you have to initiate the install (*861 or something as I recall). However, after the last update, all of a sudden I couldn't get the reception I used to, and I had to punt that phone for Cingular. As I remember, Verizon was having a real problem with text spam.

  12. Bound to happen by maharito · · Score: 5, Informative

    As cell phones became more powerful (and more like PDA's and computers) this was bound to happen. Unfortunately, with the adoption of GSM in the United States, that means the virus in question can be spread to US phones with the same vulnerability, as 911 is equivalent to 110 and 08 on most GSM carriers.

    This is also a small part of the reason that the push was made for Java enabled phones, as there is less of a security risk (albeit still a small one) in running Java apps due to the construction of the language.

    There is a somewhat heartening end to this story though. Sprint and other wireless carriers provision signed updates to phone firmware all the time over the air. Most times these updates include communications updates for new versions of software running in the MTSO or in the towers, but this sets a welcome precedent: Security updates can be pushed out to all phones of a particular model when they are first released. This way, a carrier will have no customers lingering months or years behind on updates (a la Windows XP and Windows Update) because the customers do not have to have the presence of mind to update manually, nor do they get to pick and choose what updates they want and what updates they don't.

    1. Re:Bound to happen by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Security updates can be pushed out to all phones

      And how secure is that backdoor?

    2. Re:Bound to happen by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If the phone only accepts updates signed with the manufacturer's private key, and if that private key is kept private, then it is very secure.

      My phone (Danger Hiptop) can recieve automatic over-the-air updates (it has already recieved two), but it is still secure as it only accepts signed code.

  13. How long before they start calling premium-rate? by eet23 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If a virus can make a phone dial the emergency services, it can presumably also make the phone call the premium-rate phone number the virus writer set up in a foreign country. This could get nasty.

  14. Re:nothing is safe.. by pvt_medic · · Score: 5, Funny
    Oh its much much worse than that. With the growing trend of electronics being networked and intigrated into a bigger system think of the fun a virus could have.

    • Your fridge goes crazy and starts attacking you with ice cubes.
    • Your coffee machine makes something tasting like crap.
    • Your garage door shuts on the car as it backs out.
    • And the laundry machine fills the house with soap suds.


    Oh what a virus writers dream. A whole house on the fritz.
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  15. Monocultures by heironymouscoward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Modern IT works like a natural system.

    As soon as there is a host that can be infected, in quantities of relative interest, viruses will evolve that can parasite it.

    Mobile phones are safe only so long as they are too stupid to act as carries for self-reproducing code.

    A good reason IMHO to spurn "smart" phones.

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    1. Re:Monocultures by heironymouscoward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is true, but the intelligence is kept almost entirely segregated. The SIM card is not accessible except via a restricted interface; the user interface is not programmable except by eprom; the network cannot be accessed by any user-loadable code.

      Yes, a 2G mobile phone (especially GSMs) is very sophisticated, but it is not programmable in the way needed to propagate a virus. With a GSM, for instance, the worst you can do is send malformed SMS messages that smash the eprom. You cannot take control, insert your own code, send out supretitious copies.

      While the 2G phones are "smart" compared to an analogue phone, they are not "smart" in the sense that they cannot be programmed at the user level.

      3G phones are a lot more programmable and rely on security through complexity, i.e. encryption, signatures, etc. This complexity creates the weaknesses that parasite code can exploit.

      A simple example: as soon as a phone can run a Java applet that can access the Internet (which my 2.5G phone can do), it takes just one flaw in the Java runtime for the phone to be a potential target.

      Simplicity is an excellent defense against parasitic code. 3G phones are significantly more complex than 2G and 2.5G phones. They therefore have more weaknesses.

      The "monoculture" aspect just means that a large population share the same weaknesses and an infection will spread faster and wider.

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    2. Re:Monocultures by iggymanz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wonder how segregated things really are - I received a notice from my carrier to dial a number and perform certain keystrokes to "upgrade" my phone.......and it's a very basic Motorola phone. Couldn't something naughty be done this way?

  16. Re:This is only going to get worse by Blue+Stone · · Score: 5, Informative
    It might not end up being too much of a problem:

    There is no fooling them now.... Youth look to basic functions first.

    96% of all 15-24 year olds now own a mobile phone. It is so central to the lives of young people that technology companies wishing to market new devices with added functionality must ensure that new "improved" models still operate smoothly as a phone. Whilst SMS text messaging has been a huge success with this particular age group there is huge frustration with technological updates that do not give optimum performance such as 3G, MMS and WAP technology.

    Young people have grown up with high functioning phones. They are simply not prepared to replace them until something equally functional is available.
    22 year old Greg explains; "My Nokia has a stand by time of about 2 weeks. This (3G phone) barely lasts two minutes."
    Is it perhaps for this reason that 3G as a service and 3 as a brand has not completely captured the imagination of the youth market?
    One 19 year old explains: "There is some quite interesting stuff on there - the goals, the video clips and calls - but there's no way I'd get one until they sort the phone side of it out."

    Young people do not want to risk investing in technology which might not deliver.
    Liz studying at Art College explains; "It's pointless launching a phone that doesn't work as a phone - you'd have to carry two handsets with you, have two contracts."

    Findings published by the ROAR consortium based on extensive qualitative research including placement and deprivation exercises, in-depth interviews and focus groups as well as interviews with 1063 nationally representative 15-24 year olds show young people would rather wait until new technology can be guaranteed to deliver on its promises before they will invest in them. Many are adopting a "wait and see" policy when it comes to 3G.

    79% of 15-24 year olds neither own nor intend to own a 3G phone within the next 12 months

    Video calling and messaging mean that youth will have to learn a new vernacular and at present find it slightly uncomfortable.
    24 year old Joanna said; "My brother in law has 3 already, so I was video calling him, and it is funny we get on really well normally, but those calls felt a bit awkward."

    Most 15-24 year olds feel that the ability to use the visual aspect of the video calling and messaging can be both unnecessary and unwelcome. They feel more pressurised to tell the truth and worry about their appearance.

    During a two week trial period of 3G handsets the ROAR consortium found that although most 15-24 year olds were initially impressed by some of the media content found on 3 they tended to be less enamoured by the end of the trial.

    One male respondent said: "You did think wow premiership goals - and it was quite cool being able to get them first of all but even though it was free I wasn't bothering to do it that much."

    When there are faster and easier means of accessing the content currently provided on a 3G handset can 3 really compete against this climate of media saturation?
    The research highlighted a way forward for 3G technology. While there are obvious issues with the basic functionality of the phone, there are also lessons to be learned from other areas of technology. Young people want to be able to share the media content they download and 3G doesn't allow them to trade movie clips with each other, making the experience more solitary. Similarly, it gives young people no options for customisation: they can not make it their own.
    Similarly, 3 could learn from the likes of Sony, Nokia and Apple companies which have earned the trust and respect of many 15-24 year olds creating products that are easy to use and fit well in their lives. These brands have been innovators and are known for producing products that operate effectively. Young people aspire to own these brands. Toby from Milton Keynes said; "I'd buy a Sony minidisk, cos they invented them, they know what

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  17. 71% of e-mails sent to cell phones is spam by killbill! · · Score: 5, Informative

    DoCoMo blocks about 55 percent of the one billion text messages that reach its servers each day because of suspicious return addresses or attachments. Another 26 percent of those messages are blocked by DoCoMo users who have programmed their handsets to turn back unwanted mail or spam.

    Looks like the state of the cell phone is getting close to the dire state of the net in Japan.
    And the 3G revolution is now coming our way.

    Be afraid. Be very afraid. Especially those with a pay-for-incoming-SMS/e-mails (or pay-for-received-data) scheme.

    1. Re:71% of e-mails sent to cell phones is spam by pvt_medic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      yes but watch how quickly if spam starts to spreading to cell phones their will be a quick outcry of people on this. It is illegal for telemarketers to call cell phones so sending unsolicited text messages in theory would fall under the same guidelines.

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    2. Re:71% of e-mails sent to cell phones is spam by killbill! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      nggh make that 81% /cry

      However we might have to really start worrying about this if a standardization of cell phones similar to the standardization of desktop computers happens.
      As long as the standards remain different, cell phones aren't likely to be as affected as computers.

  18. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    if I buy a cell phone then shouldn't it be just that? A cell phone..?

    The 3G phones are pretty much going to become the Windows of the cell phone world - Everyone is going to want one because it's pretty and does lots of things... but at a price.

  19. How did they get this virus? by ifwm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What kind of signs should we be looking for, like when you tell someone not to open .exe's. I wouldn't even know where to begin. Also, isn't all of the traffic on cell phones documented? Shouldn't the companies be able to find the culprit fairly easily?

  20. Re:nothing is safe.. by murphyslawyer · · Score: 5, Funny
    • Your coffee machine makes something tasting like crap.

    Even worse, your Nutri-matic drink dispenser could start producing beverages that are almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea.

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  21. Just Great! by Herkum01 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now we will get virus's that will imitate commercials and everywhere you go there will cell phones saying, "Can you hear me now?" Of course the consumer will not have the know-how to remove a virus and their cell phone is to useful to drop in the trash can.

    This also brings up...


    "Can you hear me now? GOOD! *CLICK*

  22. All I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...is a phone to make calls!

    WTF does this have to do with a virus problem?

    Oh, I know it. That lame ass crap I never used on my stupid phone... like games and worse crap they build into phones these days... are the reason.

    Maybe if there wouldn't be the *STUPID* need for a fucking OPERATING SYSTEM that can play games and CRAP in your phone you wouldn't have problems with viruses?

    As long asd we like to bloat simple things with shit, such stuff keeps happen!

    1. Re:All I want... by Wardish · · Score: 2, Insightful

      he hehe.

      On the one hand I'm so tempted to agree. Simplicity is a wonderful dream.

      But we forget that what is simple for you isn't for me and for a third is downright annoying.

      For instance:
      You want a phone that just makes calls. Your in luck, those are available.
      I have a phone/pda combination. It has many many features I don't need or want. However it does keep good track of my schedule and remind me when I need to do things, meetings, calls, appointments, medication. For all practical purposes this allows me to be a productive person for if I had to depend solely on my unaided natural memory I wouldn't be employable. And one device for both is much better than multiples. In the future I will be changing to one that also incorporates an mp3 (or some such) player as that is a function I currently have a separate device for that I enjoy using on a regular basis. I could make a good argument for programming a phone to act as a multifunction remote control as well. I have a bloomin box of remotes at home.

      Now I must admit that rationalizing a reason for needing gameplaying on a phone would be a bit of a stretch, but since they seem to be popular then the phone providers are going to cater to those dollars/yen/euros.

      The point is that all that crap.. And yes much is in MY opinion... is useful and necessary to someone. So it's a fact of life and ergo the not so good facts that come with it. Be happy that there are and probably will be for a while very inexpensive phones that do not have these problems.

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  23. Never got one by finelinebob · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cell phone viruses? Text-message spam? Never seen on- ... hold on, my phone just beeped ... looks like I've got 53 new text messages...

    No, make that 67....

  24. Bluetooth phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    We actually some research at my university with bluetooth devices. It seems that if you send a bluetooth enabled cell phone a packet of data that it does not recognize (picture, text file, anything), it will crash the phone and force a hard reboot. We stumbled onto this while doing security tests on the actual bluetooth signal using a test kit.

  25. This was predicted several years ago by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I used to work for one of the manufacturers, they knew several years ago that the same problems which affect PCs would eventually make their way down to the phones they produce as they added features and ended up with general purpose operating systems on the phones. The problem is that fixing phones is far more difficult than a PC.

    It looks like they've decided it'll be cheaper not to bother making them secure. Now, if there was a case for secure computing anywhere, it'd be phones.

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  26. In the Future... by hao2lian · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's next? A firewall for cell phones?

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  27. Text messages? They're not the problem... by Von+Helmet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article isn't very clear about what is actually behind this problem. Over in the UK we've had text messaging (SMS, whatever you want to call it) for as long as I can remember - I was actually shocked to hear that most American mobile phone companies didn't use it. Anyway...

    Point is, I don't think text messages are really the problem here. I've never heard of anything like this happening in text messages. A text message is a text message - a bunch of text. The cleverest thing I've ever seen done with text is being able to send messages that appear in flashing text, and even that only works on Nokia handsets. The only other remotely clever thing you can do with text messages is ASCII art, and we all know how clever that is.

    I can imagine it being more of a problem when you get on to the idea of sending more sophisticated stuff, like video or more complex data. Hence I'm not surprised this has already been happening in Japan, as they are miles ahead of everyone on the mobile phone front.

    The way I figure it, is there should be no means for a message to do anything remotely clever to your phone. In the same way that a properly set up mail client won't execute any old attachment, but merely present it to the user, a phone should present data or messages and have some means to keep them away from more sensitive parts of the phones software.

    The way I see it, mobile phones have got too complicated for their own good. If you want a phone to make calls (remember the days when that was what a phone did?), then buy a phone. If you want to pick up your e-mail, send files to people, or surf the web, buy a PDA for pity's sake. At least the software for PDAs (Windows CE and it's more recent brethren) has been written with a decent knowledge of OS security in mind.

  28. They already do surveilance on mobile phones... by Von+Helmet · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's been a couple of murderers and rapists and the like in the UK lately who have been caught based on mobile phone records. A murder trial - two young girls, very nasty - that's currently taking place involves the evidence that one of the victim's mobile phones was switched off outside the suspect's house the evening that the girls went missing.

    It's all fairly simple stuff at this stage, though it's kinda the stuff we've been seeing in films for years and scoffing at on the basis that it's "so unrealistic". Just the idea of being able to track where a phone signal for a particular phone number is coming from, and tying that to GPS and the like.

    There's also the idea that they keep track of what you talk about on the phone - they start recording if you say bomb or president or whatever, that kind of thing.

    It is only going to get worse though, as you say. When phones start doing more interesting stuff, there'll only be more for them to watch you do...

  29. I knew it! by KC7GR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now why am I not surprised this happened?

    [rant]

    When you take a device that was originally designed to perform ONE function -- in this context, to be a good portable communications tool -- and you start loading it up with all kinds of useless bloat that is completely UNRELATED to being a communications tool, this is exactly the kind of crap you're going to run into.

    Contrary to popular belief, not everyone thinks highly of downloadable ring tones, color screens, web access, gaming capability, or text messaging. I know, because I'm one of them. I would be perfectly happy with a simple, rugged, and RELIABLE mobile phone that was exactly that: A mobile phone, perhaps with the voice-activated calling feature, a good-sized speed dial directory, and the ability to snap into a fixed-mount handsfree cradle in the car.

    The last thing I need is a ton of "features" that I don't want, don't need, and DON'T want to have to pay extra for just because they're present. Don't even get me started on the insane "Smaller is Better!" craze. It has served only to give us keypads that are so small that Tinkerbell would have problems with them.

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  30. Re:No, the internet was designed /w security in mi by Lupulack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The internet was designed with reliability in mind , it's meant to route around disasters ( read : nuclear attack ) to keep communication lines up.

    If it were designed with security in mind we wouldn't have to bolt - on such additions as SSL or certificates. These are meant to work around the problems that we face now.

    Admittedly these wouldn't be such a problem on a purely military network , where every machine has a static IP and a known owner. But that's not the world we live in , is it ?

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  31. Re:nothing is safe.. by NattyDread · · Score: 2, Funny
    Your fridge goes crazy and starts attacking you with ice cubes. Your coffee machine makes something tasting like crap. Your garage door shuts on the car as it backs out. And the laundry machine fills the house with soap suds.

    You don't need to wait for a virus. children are more than capable of all of these activities!

    Oh, wait ....



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    Maybe the rain Isn't really to blame. So I'll remove the cause, But not the symptom!
  32. Spam Farmers by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Insightful

    AT&T is launching its mMode service, turning mobile phones into a sophisticated wireless services platform. Their pitch to developers is "XHTML as the mark-up language of choice, more viral marketing tools and better public exposure." (free registration/questionnaire required). Geeks can debate the supremacy of XHTML, and only a prude is against better public exposure. But which marketdroid is pushing "viral marketing" from the technology source to the users? Which developer will publish the innoculation apps to keep us running in place, in the spam race?

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    make install -not war

  33. Re:nothing is safe.. by jd_esguerra · · Score: 2, Funny
    Your coffee machine makes something tasting like crap

    Too late.

  34. Virus HAH!!!! by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 2, Funny

    have you seen the quality of new homes these days, mine does this all by itself.