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JigSaw writes "OSNews has a nice review/introduction to GnomeMeeting discussing its setup, usage and features. Some screenshots are included."
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50% of the time they won't answer your call
If you're wondering why, just look at what can greet you if you dare answer.
Overall, Gnomemeeting is one of the very interesting Linux/Unix apps for video-conferencing and while there are still problems here and there it is a sexy and fun app to run. It is not as polished usability-wise as the iSight/iChat combo, but it does the job. Get a supported cheap web camera if you already don't have one (you don't really need the latest and the greatest) and come join the *nix geeks online! You never know, you might meet the love of your life over there (well, it was IRC for me back in the day, but technology progresses, now you will be able to see to whom you are talking to ;-).
And the most important point of it all (from their FAQ):
2.2. Does it work with Netmeeting?
Yes, GnomeMeeting is compliant with all H.323 products, software and hardware.
At least the Windows users on the other end don't have to download any additional program, they can just continue to use what they did before...
from the i'm-to-ugly-for-video-chat dept.
So apparantly, even CmdrTaco hates Eugenia Loli-Queru!
it's TOO ugly for vdo conferencing?
/. putting stuff that matters into future storIEs? (Score:-1, Troll)
you won't be needing any 5000$ hdtv, or even a model rocket cam, to be able to sense the direction of the wwwinds of change, which are bullowing at gale force/farce.
even more to be thankful about? (Score:mynuts won, don't mention the monIE)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 30, @12:01PM (#7592801)
just kidding?
see also: stuff that really matters/chips ahoya @ a dime # dozen?
eating it/at all? (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 30, @10:02AM (#7592314)
?eating? in 3rd wwworld countries, for example
score: mynuts won, nothing to buy here?
Posted by CmdrTaco on Sunday November 30, @09:13AM
from the tang-makes-me-ill (how annoying that must be for us, & the folks over at tang.com?) dept.
morons write "What do you think babies aboard the ?other? side of the planet had for Thanksgiving? Roasted turkey? Wrong answer. In "less fortunate" areas, the pateNTdead eyecon0meter tells us, they had little of nothing, and gives details about space in their little bodies, where food ought to be. If the dining view, 200 miles of rough road, is unattractive, preparing 'meals' is even more so. For example, there is no food, so the babies must remain hungry for long periods at +- room temperature. And you need to avoid thinking about this scenario. The real 'stuff that matters' overview contains additional references, and includes directions by the creators, for their/yOUR newclear power, & planet/population rescue initiatives/mandates.
( Read More... | that makes sense )
consult with/trust in yOUR creators... the lights are coming up now in order to assist in the avoidance of overheating the main processor, &, facilitation of the aforementioned ncp/ppr programs/mandates.
for each of the creators' innocents harmed, there is a badtoll that must/will be repaid by you/US, as the execrabilious corepirate nazi perpetraitors of the life0cide against the creators innocents, will not be available to make reparations.
see you there? tell 'em robbIE?
vEver since Gnome 2.4 was released, I have found more and more gnome zealots
/gnu/celeron
who MUST absolutely advocate GNOME at every possible moment. Here is a guide
to some of their claims, and what they really mean.
Unlike KDE, Gnome is free
Translation : GPL is freerer than LGPL. LGPL allows corporations like Novell
and Sun to have propeitry forks and lock away their changes from the user. Now
that Novell has taken over Ximian you can expect Gnome to get put under
corpirate lock. With KDE you have the choice, you either PAY UP or pay with
your source code.
Nautilus is much better than konqueror.
Wrong, if your using nautilus for anything more than a simple finder clone you
can forget it. No split screen, no ioslaves and forget about being able to
have a decent file dialog, not to forget that it is as unstable as hell and is
STILL slow on >3 Ghz machines.
Gnome is easier to use
Yep, nothing like using gconf-editor to edit all except the most trivial of
settings. Want tear off menus? Want a useable file dialog? You won't find it
here.
Gnome has eye candy
Yes, my pirated Win32 fonts with the patent infringing font renderer. Bit
stream vera sans looks like Tahoma put through a shreadder! Of course I still
reboot into windows to print using "Comic Sans MS.
Gnome has a new web browser
Yawb! Along with Galeon, mozilla, thunderbird, konqueror, atlantis, lynx,
netscape and w3m. Yes I need another browser! Not to mention that its got a
religiously offensive name and it dosen't allow bookmark folders. It also
crashes like a crazy! Apple chose khtml for a REASON! its stable and light!
For newbies, Gnome is the ideal choice
Despite the fact that the only mainstream Gnome based distro has been EOL'd,
and all the newbie distros such as Mangadrake, Lindoze, $u$E, Lycoris,
Xandroze, Gentoo use kde default, the Local unix geek showed me Debian, which
installed Gnome 1.4 by default, so it must be good if he uses it.
You KDE guys must be sick of the K
Our G's and monkeys are SO MUCH better, gedit, glib, gconf, bobono, ghex,
gless, same-gnome.
Gnome is themeable
Yep, choose from High, low and medium contrast, default, and clean ice. Wan't
to change the colour scheme? USE GCONF NOOB, plus if you complain about it we
will tell you to fuck off and go back to Windows or KDE.
Gnome has multimedia framework
Its a kludge of esd combined with broken xine libraries. No wonder it crashes
all the time and dosen't work on 95% of video files
My Gnome work station
My 1.1Ghz Packard Bell box my mum bought for me from PC world, that is made of
made to break components, but it has a GEFORCE RADEON 9000 card, so it must be
good.On the other hand, no-one (well, nearly no-one) is suggesting that GTK+
is a replacement for Qt...
Gnome allows mac like operation.
We have a shameless expose ripoff, with a cheezy name. Next thing you know we
will scrap the panel for a cheezy dock clone. Despite the fact that x86
compatible 1 button mice are almost impossible to find, and it dosen't copy
the whole macbar concept. Our auto apply implementation is broken and
dangerous, but you can always use gconf like a real geek.
Gnome is GNU software.
gnu/Yay, gnu/gnome gnu/for gnu/my gnu/debian gnu/linux gnu/500mhz
gnu/packard gnu/bell gnu/box.
P.S If you think I'm just trolling, try kde 3.2 beta "rudi", you will NEVER want to go back to gnome again.
What about KDE meeting ?
That's worse than goatse! *barf*
Does this mean that all webcams will have to be pointed at a lower level and toward the garden. Gnomemeeting... Get it ...
Ok I'll get back to work .....
Stay tuned for new sig...
Have a look at the Gnome Meeting webpage; there are many more screenshots there with some preferences and other parts of the app shown that don't appear in the OSNews article. -- Steve
from the brown-eye dept.
Anonymous Coward writes: "Hey everybody, theyre is a good website here. Let's give 'slashdotting' a new meaning!" I'm strangely aroused.
when will it communicate with Skype?
I'm a Windows user who wants to use it instead of NetMeeting??
...as reported by CPD.
Here's the report.
The Army reading list
I, for one, would like to welcome our new Gnome ..erm.. Underlords.
Then join me, and THOUSANDS of others against the HIG. Do you want USABLE APPLICATIONS, WITH FEATURES WHILE PROVIDING IT ALL FROM THE GUI?.
That is why I am going to fork gnome. I have forked the code base from 2.4.1, and I am now working on adding patches and bug fixes to it to make it USABLE. It will be released soon, and will be called GIU, meaning GIU is usable.
Check out http://giu.sourceforge.net/, and help in the Jihad against the HIG, which is ruining so many applications, and forking up the community. See Sodipodi for example, the premiere of vector image editors for linux. Now someone has forked into inkscape, who decided to fuck up the the GUI and turn it into a cheap Illi$trat0r clone, this is your HIG, please fight it.
it could application share and or whiteboard with NetMeeting. I am sorry, but video conferencing is not novel, certainly not in 2003. Folks have been doing this since 1994 with CU-SeeMe, and vt et al. Cross paltform too, even before H.323.
The largest collection of use cases for NetMeeting involves *no* video, and a lot of application sharing/viewing. I think we all know this. What are the obstacles to getting some kind of linux based solution (please dont say vmware or wine!) that truly can interact with NM on a peer level?
... a decent non-geek screenshot of a multimedia application that makes me *want* to use it:
G no meMeeting_In_A_Call.png
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/screenshots/latest/
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
I did not RTFA, and from experience, we don't need to. Highlights of the review:
Ugly interface.
Not themeable.
She tried to install it via RPM, then manually compiled some libraries on top of it which broke, conclusion it sucks.
APT-GET rules
Please stop reading this site and consign it to the flames of web history. Page views are keeping it alive.
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
Gollum steals the one ring and goes on to rule Middle Earth with a clammy iron paw.
nuff said.
This is an exact quote of the last paragraph of the article mentioned! The post doesn't contain any news
The article suggested there was some firewall issues with this and I see this as a main step holding back videoconferencing.
My parents recently had broadband installed and I advised them to get an ADSL router with firewall (and wireless) built in like I'm using. I then realised we both also have digital cameras which double as webcams so why phone each other when we can videoconference for free! However, a little research and everything I found used H.323 and required a range of thousands of ports to be open which just isn't feasible on a port forwarding firewall.
Are there any single port videoconferencing apps available?
404 Not Found.
I traded a few e-mails last year with Damien (the lead developer). He said a Windows port was being actively worked on and was just a few weeks/months off. Anyone heard anything on this? I was hoping to use GnomeMeeting in our office, where there's no chance of switching to Linux desktops anytime soon.
You'll love this
Lump lingered last in line for brains, and the ones she got were sorta rotten and insane.
1. Gnome. 2. ?????. 3. Profit.
Noticed that it doesn't work with macos X ichat. I noticed that during his introduction S jobs indicated ichat was built using opensource, so my question is how hard would it be to get it to work with ichat?
Note : I am reposting this. Some moderator modded me down without explaining why. I have some serious problems with gnome, so please, repsond to the problems. Ever since Gnome 2.4 was released, I have found more and more gnome zealots
/gnu/celeron
who MUST absolutely advocate GNOME at every possible moment. Here is a guide
to some of their claims, and what they really mean.
Unlike KDE, Gnome is free
Translation : GPL is freerer than LGPL. LGPL allows corporations like Novell
and Sun to have propeitry forks and lock away their changes from the user. Now
that Novell has taken over Ximian you can expect Gnome to get put under
corpirate lock. With KDE you have the choice, you either PAY UP or pay with
your source code.
Nautilus is much better than konqueror.
Wrong, if your using nautilus for anything more than a simple finder clone you
can forget it. No split screen, no ioslaves and forget about being able to
have a decent file dialog, not to forget that it is as unstable as hell and is
STILL slow on >3 Ghz machines.
Gnome is easier to use
Yep, nothing like using gconf-editor to edit all except the most trivial of
settings. Want tear off menus? Want a useable file dialog? You won't find it
here.
Gnome has eye candy
Yes, my pirated Win32 fonts with the patent infringing font renderer. Bit
stream vera sans looks like Tahoma put through a shreadder! Of course I still
reboot into windows to print using "Comic Sans MS.
Gnome has a new web browser
Yawb! Along with Galeon, mozilla, thunderbird, konqueror, atlantis, lynx,
netscape and w3m. Yes I need another browser! Not to mention that its got a
religiously offensive name and it dosen't allow bookmark folders. It also
crashes like a crazy! Apple chose khtml for a REASON! its stable and light!
For newbies, Gnome is the ideal choice
Despite the fact that the only mainstream Gnome based distro has been EOL'd,
and all the newbie distros such as Mangadrake, Lindoze, $u$E, Lycoris,
Xandroze, Gentoo use kde default, the Local unix geek showed me Debian, which
installed Gnome 1.4 by default, so it must be good if he uses it.
You KDE guys must be sick of the K
Our G's and monkeys are SO MUCH better, gedit, glib, gconf, bobono, ghex,
gless, same-gnome.
Gnome is themeable
Yep, choose from High, low and medium contrast, default, and clean ice. Wan't
to change the colour scheme? USE GCONF NOOB, plus if you complain about it we
will tell you to fuck off and go back to Windows or KDE.
Gnome has multimedia framework
Its a kludge of esd combined with broken xine libraries. No wonder it crashes
all the time and dosen't work on 95% of video files
My Gnome work station
My 1.1Ghz Packard Bell box my mum bought for me from PC world, that is made of
made to break components, but it has a GEFORCE RADEON 9000 card, so it must be
good.On the other hand, no-one (well, nearly no-one) is suggesting that GTK+
is a replacement for Qt...
Gnome allows mac like operation.
We have a shameless expose ripoff, with a cheezy name. Next thing you know we
will scrap the panel for a cheezy dock clone. Despite the fact that x86
compatible 1 button mice are almost impossible to find, and it dosen't copy
the whole macbar concept. Our auto apply implementation is broken and
dangerous, but you can always use gconf like a real geek.
Gnome is GNU software.
gnu/Yay, gnu/gnome gnu/for gnu/my gnu/debian gnu/linux gnu/500mhz
gnu/packard gnu/bell gnu/box.
Inspired by the gentoo translate-o-matic.
Shouldn't UPnP take care of all this?
1) Bandwidth usage
/ portrait/
2) Encryption
3) Communicating with mobile stuff as in MS Portrait:
http://research.microsoft.com/~jiangli
What are the options for video teleconferencing between Windows and Linux? I use Linux at home, but my parents two states away are Windows users. We've been trying to use Gnomemeeting/Netmeeting for several months now with mixed sucess. It seems that most of the problems seem to be on the Netmeeting end, but with Microsoft retiring Netmeeting there's little hope to get this resolved and Netmeeting doesn't appear to be a viable choice for the future. Are there any other options out there?
When you lose something irreplaceable, you don't mourn for the thing you lost, you mourn for yourself. - Harpo Marx
At least the Windows users on the other end don't have to download any additional program, they can just continue to use what they did before...
Gnomeeting is bundled with the GNOME 2.4 Desktop
GNOME user dont need to download anything if they already have GNOME Desktop
Dont substitute Windows with Linux while comparing 2 type of desktop
if we substitute "Windows" with "Gnome Desktop"
your comment will be like this:-
"At least the GNOME Desktop users on the other end don't have to download any additional program, they can just continue to use what they did before..."
-- Hasbullah bin Pit (sebol)
H.323 has serious problems with NAT and firewalls which are kind of hard to solve if you're not your own ISP. And the interoperability between two H.323 compliant products even from two different commercial vendors doesn't seem to be very good either.
i'm-to-ugly-for-video-chat dept
Don't see the problem? It's TOO ugly for video chat, not TO. What is the educational system in this country coming to when people can't even tell the difference between too and to? Do UK/Canadian/non us people have this problem too?
I usually think of her as the queen of scathing reviews of Linux distros. Interesting that this review was neither scathing nor of a linux distro.
Day 1: the first version of gnomemeeting is released.
Day 1.5: Some guy is waving his wand in front of the camera in hope of release.
What is the educational system in this country coming to when people can't even tell the difference between too and to?
Where's LoseNotLooseGuy when you need him? He would mod you up!
Open Source Java Web Forum with LDAP authentication
The best feature of gnomemeeting is that it supports 1394 AV/C cameras (aka DV camcorders). That means you can plug in you standard firewire camcorder and use that as your webcam! This requires a recent (and maybe customized) build, but it works quite well.
-molo
Using your sig line to advertise for friends is lame.
Hot chick and Translator of Gnomemeeting
Models developing software, what's the world coming to.
Congratulations GNOME developers, you've almost emulated Windows Net Meeting which has been around for almost a decade now!
L00nuckz is up with the bleeding edge technology. Dayaam!
Now I can look at dirty hippies live hax0r kernels!
If your meeting software transforms your meeting into a multipoint tech support video conference, the software is not ready for primetime.
The software needs to be invisible - it can't impede the act of having the meeeting in any way. Currently no solution, including NetMeeting, truly achieves this goal.
There's also an answermachine available compatible with gnomemeeting/netmeeting available. You can find it here: http://www.openh323.org/code.html.
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I tried to get GNOMEMeeting a couple of years ago. Back then, my harddisk space was limited and I used Slackware. This means that I got to think twice before installing any software, because of the space constraints, and because of the effort in configuring, compiling and installing a package and every single dependency.
I had been able to get by without GNOME and KDE; most apps I used being GTK+ apps that could be compiled with or without GNOME. Not GNOMEMeeting. However, I figured that I could install the GNOME libraries and get not only GNOMEMeeting, but also some mighty cool features in my other apps...after all, there had to be a reason why people use the GNOME libraries, right?
Well, for some reason I don't remember I couldn't or wouldn't install GNOME from packages. So of I went to download, configure, compile and install every single component. Eventually I had a working GNOME install.
And then I got stuck...it turned out I also needed some libraries to support H.323, but couldn't get them compiled due to lack of virtual memory - I had 384 MB, which is exactly what the manual said I would need, but apparently was just not enough. Eventually I managed to compile the framework in debug mode - why this takes _less_ memory I still fail to see.
Compiling GNOMEMeeting was complicated by lots of errors apparently caused by the version of OpenH323 I had installed not being quite what GNOMEMeeting expected. Finally I managed to get everything installed and working...and then it turned out that GNOMEMeeting didn't work nearly as well as I had expected it to. In many cases, it just wouldn't connect. Judging from the article, not much has changed in that respect, although I am pleased to see that GM works with NAT now.
Now you may see the above as me blaming GM for Slackware lacking a good packaging system (mostly suffering from the lack of packages made for it), and that is indeed one source of the hardships I encountered. But I am asking you, and I seriously wonder, why does GM need GNOME? The way I see it, all it has to do is grab video and audio, encode it, and send it over the network, and play the video and audio it receives over the network. To my knowledge, none of these things require GNOME, nor are they easier to implement using GNOME. Am I wrong?
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
gnomemeeting: error while loading shared libraries: libldap.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Google is your friend.
Let the email flood begin... ;-)
Eugenia Loli-Queru:the microphone
Stela Korakaki:ok
Eugenia Loli-Queru: giving
Eugenia Loli-Queru:yeah pretty good
Eugenia Loli-Queru:i hear that good stuff
Stela Korakaki:
just = (My)Opinion.toCents();
I love it when people who don't even have the balls to post under a MEANINGLESS USERNAME laud kudos upon other people's posts.
who's that? ... It's Pat!!
We only need ONE protocol, not 20
(AIM ICQ IRC YAHOO MSN SKYPE JABBER GABBER and lots lots more)
for each of the following functions!:
Haven't we been playing this game too long? The Internet is supposed to be an information commute, not a traffic jam. Why can't we STANDARDIZE it!? bah! (XML would be nice)
Disclaimer: I don't know what I'm talking about.
Hello GnomeMeeting, welcome to 1996.
they refer to it as an instant messenger...
it's a VOIP client.. the creator of gnome meeting has even stated this.
No she's ugly sir!
It's not the nose, its the eyes, they're crooked!
a bit like your whole face that looks like an ass perhaps?
... but would want a software package where the logo is a smelly foot?