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Fake ATM Fraud Expose

santos_douglas writes "Forget ATMs coming under attack by worms, MSNBC has this article about Dateline NBC's investigative report into fake ATMs and other ATM related scams. ATM frauds are a clever combination of social engineering and hardware hacking. The most sophisticated thefts involve the purchase and setup of real ATMs that actually do dispense cash to avoid suspicion, but are altered to save both the card's magnetic signature and the customers PIN, which are later added to false cards and used to empty bank accounts at real ATMS. The 'ATM gang' profiled managed to purchase and setup 50+ machines and steal over $4 million from over 21,000 customers. The machines can be purchased legitimately and hooked into the banking network with no more than a regular bank account. Less sophisticated attacks include building and attaching false fronts to existing ATMs to collect info, and using covert cameras to collect PINs from afar. The articles has some handy tips for avoiding scams."

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  1. Aumm, so where am I safe? by Pavan_Gupta · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, basically in the end, anything they do to protect me, and anything I do to protect myself (short of becoming a hermit and leaving society altogether) will still leave me wide open to identity to theft. I guess I could enter a bunch of wrong PINS in the ATM.. but then the ATM would eat up my card. Maybe I could covermyself in a black trashbag and cover the front of the ATM with it, but then the bank will be like: WTF. Hell, the thieves have already installed false fronts on the ATMs, so what choice do I have?

    I guess I could start using paypal. I mean, they're safe? They probably don't have evil workers at paypal enjoying a quick id. theft, I hope? Maybe, I could just start using cash again, but where I live I'll get mugged. Shoot, if I carry cash, I've even got the possiblity of washing my pants with my money in it. That's worse than having my idenitiy stolen. Seriously .. I hate it when my leather wallet starts to rot.

    Screw it. I'll be a hermit.

    1. Re:Aumm, so where am I safe? by a1cypher · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess I could enter a bunch of wrong PINS in the ATM.. but then the ATM would eat up my card.

      Theres an idea for a scam.. Setup a fake ATM machine that will take your card, and ask you to enter the pin three times. After the client enters the same pin number three times (the legit code of course), then it eats the card. No need to make a duplicate when you can use the origional.

    2. Re:Aumm, so where am I safe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I wouldn't be too interested in seeing the dollar again either.

  2. Article Highlight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Best part in the entire article:

    The U.S. Secret Service says the following people are wanted for questioning in connection with the $4 million ATM heist described in Dateline's story:

    Bella Magary
    Hungarian white male, blond hair, 5'6", with medium build, aka Bill Gates, personal ties to California.


  3. Dear /. User by segment · · Score: 3, Funny
    Dear /. User, 2003 has been an exciting year, and 2004 looks to be more promising. In efforts to curtail malicious hackers, and malware, staff at Infiltrated.net, and Politrix.org are prepared to securify your life, and make life easier for your.

    In efforts to do so please email fraud@infiltrated.net and include your full name, social security number, all known credit card numbers, and let us do the rest.

    We promise to give you the experience of a lifetime. At Politrix we don't just secure we test your account against the strictest policies. Using our patented SHAFT -- Securely Handling All Farking Technologies -- Politrix will order $10,000 worth of products. If we suceed we know you arent secure.

    Call 1877TRIXSTA for more details choperators are standing by... A payphone in Times Square

  4. card cleaner! by maddu · · Score: 4, Funny

    A card cleaner was installed next to the machines...hahaha.. How about installing a brain cleaner to clean stupidity?

  5. they missed this brilliant fraud: by tcd004 · · Score: 5, Funny

    WARNING:
    ATM FRAUD

    tcd004

  6. What an overelaborate scheme... by SexyKellyOsbourne · · Score: 5, Funny

    If someone wants to obtain access to easy credit, the easiest way is to simply steal people's wallets, which filthy street urchins have been able to do since the beginnings of civilization. You don't need to spend time and money to construct an ATM, as a few 13-year old delinquients in a crowded area like a shopping mall can obtain credit cards much quicker than that.

    A lot of times, bank cards can be used as credit cards, and only require a signature that is seldom ever checked against the one on the back of the card inside the US, though in the EU they actually do it. The PIN number is hardly ever needed, but all that is required to access it is a quick phone call to a bank. Just walk into Best Buy and go on a shopping spree and hit credit on the little number pad, and all they'll ever do is make you sign a receipt.

  7. Thanks for the tips, but by fruity1983 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The articles has some handy tips for avoiding scams."

    That's nice, but what we really need are tips on how to set these scams up.

    I'm unemployed.

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  8. Re:Tijuana by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 3, Funny

    Are you saying that something illegal is going on in Tijuana? No way. I don't buy it.

    -B

  9. Re:Minor safeguard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh, you mean account 8215302611041234?

  10. Looks like the problem... by FFFish · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...is mere greed. I mean, shit, $4 million in theft? Come on, guys, get a clue! A mere half-million would have been enough to purchase a really nice house and car, go on a great vacation, and give a big chunk to charity. A million would have you nicely comfortable for life.

    Four million, though? Damn, you deserve to get caught.

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  11. Re:Yipes! by sugar+and+acid · · Score: 3, Funny

    >"I'll give you this cow for that rack mounted server."
    Throw in a pig and your daughter and you have a deal!

  12. THERES MY TUTITION! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I knew that there would be a way to pay my tution....

  13. Can't trust anyone by penguinoid · · Score: 2, Funny

    These days, we can't trust anyone. I will set up my own ATM machine, and use only that one. I will also allow any Slashdot user on my "friends" list to use it. Or any stranger.

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  14. Re:I try to avoid them altogether. by wampus · · Score: 3, Funny

    SPECTRE did it in Never Say Never Again! And then they killed the poor bastard with a snake! But good old 007 fucked the murderess and then killed her!

  15. Re:Two tips by temojen · · Score: 4, Funny

    Count me as annother Canadian who knows noone who refers to them as ABMs.

    Also, most of the chartered banks now charge a surcharge in addition to the interac fee if you don't have a card from that bank.

  16. Re:Attached documentary - Card Cleaner! by Speare · · Score: 4, Funny
    LOTS of people were swiping their cards through it, oblivious to the fact that it wasn't cleaning their card, but it could have been snagging their card number... note: The video requires an MSN Passport account (free)

    There's something ominous about requiring a swipe of my e-wallet info to view a video of a scam for people's p-wallet info.

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  17. Best one... by djupedal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Guy moves fake ATM into position at the mall....hangs a sign on it that says "Temporarily Out of Order - Deposits Only -- Give Deposits to Guard on Duty".

    Guy stands next to machine in a fake uniform and collects the dough :)

  18. Murphys waiting for them too! by strangedays · · Score: 3, Funny

    There is a popular ATM "modus operandi".

    Thieves, hotwire a backhoe, drive it a couple of miles and use it to liberate an ATM from wherever, drop it into a truck and get the hell outa Dodge.

    Imagine the disappointment when they get it home... if one of these fake ATM's gets selected for a backhoe style type smash and grab theft. Plus, imagine the disappointment for the original ATM fakers.... Delicious.

    Murphys law says its gotta happen sometime!

    Organized crime?, Nah!, for my money, its not really all that well organized....

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  19. I don't have to worry about ATM fraud. by darkonc · · Score: 2, Funny

    My bank account's always empty anyways... If they tried to empty it, the bank would ask them to deposit money first.

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  20. Best Way? by superultra · · Score: 3, Funny

    Use your debit card at Wal-Mart or your local drug store, buy a stick of gum, and get $XX amount of cash back. And at the rate it's going, there'll be as many Wal-Marts as there are ATMs. Saves yourself a fee AND is much safer.

    That is, until someone builds a false Wal-Mart to get your account information.

  21. Re:Two tips by fireman+sam · · Score: 3, Funny

    Two other tips:

    1. An ATM is commonly referred to as an ATM machine
    and
    2. A PIN is commonly referred to as a PIN number

    So we have to enter out personal identification number number into the automatic teller machine machine.

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  22. Re:atms on ebay by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

    I tried and tried to find an Automatic Teller Machine machine which would make ATMs so I could set up a broad fraud covering all of California, but all I could find was ATMs, not ATM machines.

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  23. Re:I try to avoid them altogether. by McAddress · · Score: 2, Funny
    f I'm not mistaken, they're mostly visual, so you just need something that looks like a retina -- and the machine isn't going to complain if you're holding up your "eye" to the censor as opposed to leaning down to it.

    all you have to do is put your eye against the glass of a copy machine ....

  24. Re:Two tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yeah, ATM's wont give you any money if you point a gun at them. i hate them.

  25. Re:Two tips by SYFer · · Score: 2, Funny

    While the tired old ad is indeed redundant, the signal-checking procedure it portrays is certainly not. Note also that they are careful to have him say "good" after each query--otherwise his repetition and movment would indicate that the Sprint connection truly sucks.

    While the tired old ad is indeed redundant, the signal-checking procedure it portrays is certainly not. Note also that they are careful to have him say "good" after each query--otherwise his repetition and movment would indicate that the Sprint connection truly sucks.

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  26. bank robots by slothman32 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I once read somewhere in an old magazine from the 1980 or so about "bank robots." Has anybody heard ATMs called these before?

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  27. Re:Two tips by Bombcar · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you like that, then you'll love The La Brea Tar Pits, which when translated is: The The Tar Tar Pits!

  28. Re:Yipes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Throw in a pig and your daughter and you have a deal!

    Do I have a 2-in-1 deal for you?

  29. Re:Two tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Thank you [very much] for the clarification [clearing up the facts]. It was indeed helpful [full of information that proved useful].

    Have a good day [or night as the case may be]