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Warflying 2013 Access Points in Los Angeles

Kallahar writes "We went warflying over Los Angeles and Orange counties yesterday. Flying in a small plane at 1400 feet we detected 2013 802.11b APs in 75 minutes, 71% had no WEP encryption. A map and some pretty pictures are up at my writeup."

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  1. That's nuts by GabeK · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What I find pretty amazing is the 500+ people with the default SSID. It's like my apartment complex...if I'm not careful, I can get on one of three different networks and not know it!

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  2. Hey thats my SSID by Delta-9 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Hackerish SSID (h3lpm3) 15 (0.7%)"

    Hey thats my SSID!

    All kidding aside, I wonder how many /. readers' SSIDs are in that netstumbler log, and I wonder how many are afraid to reply and say so since their GPS coords are associatated to their SSID.

  3. I live in LA! by jedir0x · · Score: 5, Funny

    Woah, nice to have a map of all the access points, for those times when I'm without internet connection ... or don't want to use my own :D Thank god for wireless!

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  4. East LA by blackmonday · · Score: 5, Funny

    In East LA, a pilot is "warflying" when averting the numerous bullets flying into the air, shot by drunk cholos on July 4th. Talk about bombs bursting in air.

    And I can hear it already - hey ese, you forgot to encrypt your airport station, homes!

  5. 1400 feet? by planckscale · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You would think at that alitude they wouldn't pick up anything, considering my buddie's WAP won't reach his backyard. I wonder if they're mostly business WAPs?

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  6. Warbussing by spooky_nerd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had a similar, but lower tech, experience just yesterday. On a bus ride through Seattle I flipped open a standard laptop with a Cisco wifi card, and found dozens of access points. Most of them where open. I wonder how long it will be until wireless companies start offering security out of the box? How hard would it be to have a wireless access point that shipped with a random password and instructions on how to use it? It's pretty obvious that the average person doesn't realize what the risks are. I know because as a desktop support tech I get asked about this all the time. As soon as I start talking about things like WEP and MAC addresses, I see eyes glazing over.

  7. Mirror by markclong · · Score: 5, Informative
  8. Re:2013 access points... by gnuadam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just because it doesn't have wep doesn't quite mean that they're unsecured. I don't use wep, but I only allow designated mac addresses onto my network, and make sure that any traffic I care about is either encrypted at the protocol level, or is ssh-tunneled to a wired machine. I trust ssl much more than wep.

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  9. Better yet, a mirror :) by tugrul · · Score: 5, Informative
  10. Re:Semi-offtopic: Signal range by Grant29 · · Score: 5, Informative

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  11. Here's the scoop on this: by The_Pey · · Score: 5, Informative

    1. He was flying in a plane over LA. -For simplicity's sake when flying under Class B Airspace, many pilots on VFR flights tend to stick to flying over interstates - its easy and keeps you out of trouble.

    2. He had a laptop with only one 802.11 card and only one antenna for reception. The necessarily rules out any radio direction finding for accurate plotting of the access points. Instead what you see is what he picked up as he flew and the exact lat / long the plane was at at the time of the signal hit. If he could do some RDF by maybe having antennas in an array attached to the plane at say the wingtips he could with the right software plot out where each possible transmitter was. But he would need to know what altitude the plane was at, what the heading was and the different signal strengths received at each antenna as well as the distance between the antennas in his array. I don't know of any software out there that does this but the information to do this is readily available.

    If he had that setup you would see a map with the projected location of each access point arrayed around the path of the aircraft.

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