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PowerPoint Makes You Dumb

jpatokal writes "The New York Times confirms what we've suspected all along: PowerPoint makes you dumb. In a new essay, information theorist Edward Tufte outlines why PowerPoint 'forces people to mutilate data beyond comprehension.' The Columbia Accident Investigation Board at NASA agrees, noting that the slides produced by engineers to report on the wing damage were so confusing that 'a senior manager might read this PowerPoint slide and not realize that it addresses a life-threatening situation.'" Tufte's essay (and the shuttle/PowerPoint critique) has been available for sale since earlier this year, but the NYT article gives a greater sampling of its content than Tufte's website does.

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  1. Impress by m00nun1t · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...yet Open Office Impress copies all these flaws faithfully.

    1. Re:Impress by t0ny · · Score: 4, Funny
      I heard that MS Word makes people stupid too, because if you want to write something, you have to type it yourself!

      You also have to spell correctly if you cant use the spell checker, you need to make coherent sentences, and actually possess some sort of writing skill to make people understand what you are saying!

      Oh, the humanity!

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    2. Re:Impress by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Or here is another amazing idea.... Maybe slide presentations just aren't the best form for the information to be presented in. Truthfully, I don't see why most people use any form of slide presentation. Most of the time the data put on the slide isn't suited for that form of media. Most of the time it's too complex.

      Of course this isn't Microsoft's fault. Nor Open-Office. This is the fault of people who decide to start using new technology (or new at the time) without really thinking if it helps or hinders the information being presented. And for years I was one of those people.

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  2. It's not software by October_30th · · Score: 5, Insightful
    That's not a software problem.

    It's a people problem. I do and watch scientific presentations as a part of my job and I am constantly appalled at the low quality of presentations.

    There are few simple rules on how to make a good presentation: 1) Use a projector - stop using transparencies, 2) avoid text on your slides at all costs 3) use plenty of full colour figures and simple animation but don't overdo it and 4) rehearse your presentation so that you know it by heart - nothing irritates me as much as someone who just reads his slides to the audience.

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    1. Re:It's not software by nagora · · Score: 5, Interesting
      That's not a software problem.

      It's a people problem.

      Yes, and it was a "people problem" when ATM's used to pay out the cash before returning your card and people kept laving their cards behind. But sometimes you need to change your software to allow for the "people problems".

      TWW

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    2. Re:It's not software by wfberg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are few simple rules on how to make a good presentation: 1) Use a projector - stop using transparencies, 2) avoid text on your slides at all costs 3) use plenty of full colour figures and simple animation but don't overdo it and 4) rehearse your presentation so that you know it by heart - nothing irritates me as much as someone who just reads his slides to the audience.

      Add to that;
      5) only add major points on your slides, but don't forget to include a full text in the "notes" section, and make sure that if you distribute the presentation electronically it displays notes by default.
      6) the presentation is not your report; distribute a separate, full-text, full-detail report. You can refer to this report for answering any intricate questions the audience might have.
      7) if you're giving a presentation in a language that is not your, or the audiences, mothertongue (such as; jargonese), make sure that complicated or hard-to-pronounce words appear on the slides, and are referred to in the spoken part of the presentation in multiple ways (i.e. synonyms, explanations).
      8) colors should work in black and white as well, for print-outs and crappy projectors.
      9) the last slide WILL include your e-mail and web address.
      10) the audience is NOT wearing any clothes.

      that's all I can think of right now..

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    3. Re:It's not software by Daggie · · Score: 5, Interesting

      4) rehearse your presentation so that you know it by heart

      I beg to differ. Do NOT learn your presentation by heart. Make sure you understand the subject. Make sure you know it thoroughly. If your slides are good, just interact with them. Show your audience what you're saying (many people like to SEE it). Short strong words are (imho) necessary on a presentation for the audience to keep focus)

      There is nothing more boring then a presentation where somebody just rattles on about a subject. PLUS when you are asked a question, you often forget what you were saying. You loose track of your text like that.

      If you have no clue what you are saying, then learn it by heart and watch your audience fall asleep.

    4. Re:It's not software by DoraLives · · Score: 4, Insightful
      So what should we use to make presentations then?

      Well...since everyone is well aware that ninety-eight percent of all meetings/presentations are either useless or downright counterproductive, perhaps we should ditch the lot of it. Such losses as would be incurred by the deletion of the two percent of productive meetings/presentations would be far more than offset by the gains of not having to countenance the rest of it.

      I suppose if you MUST deal in pretty pictures and a bit of text, a printed handout that people could follow along with should do nicely. Hell, they might even be able to go back and refer to some of the material later on and even (gasp) take notes upon it!

      This eventuality, of course, stands no chance of ever taking place in the world of wingtip shoes, horrid ties, and all the rest of the Form Over Function world of grown-up weenies and their damnable inclinations to impress with mere looks as opposed to actual substance. Sigh.

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    5. Re:It's not software by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "So what should we use to make presentations then?"

      I tend to use HTML, with big centred titles, and use one of my desktop backgrounds to add some style. It fits easily on a disk, it's easy to add graphics, you've got a full-screen mode on every browser, and when you're done, it can go on a website without making you look like an idiot who uses 150KB graphics to display 10 words.

      One thing I notice about lecturers (who actually need to convey information in their slides) is that they tend to use the rolls of acetate, and have "slides" that are several metres long, scrolling down all the time to reveal new information while leaving the last few lines visible for anyone taking notes. You can't do this in Impress, but it's easy enough if you're using HTML.

    6. Re:It's not software by ergo98 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      2) avoid text on your slides at all costs

      Any graphics that require interpretation will basically lose the audience, as the vast majority of people will tune you out and interpret it themselves. I've seen this in action at quite a few presentations.

      Your points seem to propose a technique of "presenting to people who don't really care", and my experience is that such people don't really care regardless of how "jazzed up" your presentation is. If people care they're really there to listen and absorb a lecture of sorts, and the presentation is just something to point your eyes at rather than staring at the presenter, or as a medium to present data that's best formed as graphics, which is a subset.

      Having said all of that, I have two pieces of advice for powerpoint presentations-

      1) Never provide a hand-out of the presentation -- this is a way for people to escape your presentation and they'll just skim ahead, making presumptions about everything you're going to say, and then ignore the rest.

      2) This is totally contrary to the whole subject of this article, but I truly believe that a presentation is a multimedia display, and in no way should the presentation have to hold up on its own -- i.e. If people weren't there, they shouldn't expect the same absorption or understanding skimming the presentation without the supporting presenter (unless you provide a full video recording of the presentation when you distribute it). Many people propose that presentations have to be fully self-supporting and that is just wrong.

    7. Re:It's not software by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Insightful
      So what should we use to make presentations then?

      In the dark days before laser printers, we usually used a pencil. Draw your picture, xerox it onto a transparancy, and you're all set. (In the darker days befor cheap xerox machines, my school teachers used to do the same thing with special transparancies that worked in those purple mimeograph machines.)

      As for text, that was often jotted on a blank transparancy or a chalkboard in the form of notes during the presentation itself.

      It may be hard to believe, but that system worked just fine. The only reason you need powerpoint today is that everyone else uses it, and you wouldn't look cool enough if you used hand-drawn diagrams.

  3. Powerpoint at fault, or users? by mattjb0010 · · Score: 5, Funny

    In a new essay, information theorist Edward Tufte outlines why PowerPoint 'forces people to mutilate data beyond comprehension.' The Columbia Accident Investigation Board at NASA agrees, noting that the slides produced by engineers to report on the wing damage were so confusing that 'a senior manager might read this PowerPoint slide and not realize that it addresses a life-threatening situation.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but powerpoint doesn't have a wizard that says "it looks like you're trying to insert text saying `life threatening situation' in size 44 text, would you like to Dilbertize this slide?".

  4. just plain silly by MadMirko · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How do you come from "noting that the slides produced by engineers to report on the wing damage were so confusing that 'a senior manager might read this PowerPoint slide and not realize that it addresses a life-threatening situation'" to "PowerPoint Makes You Dumb"?

    We have seen so much bullshit in plain text / html / .rtf / .pdf (and this story goes right along), but would anyone state that "vi / tex / Acrobat makes you dumb"?

    Please, no more...

  5. Powerpoint Flaws by graystar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What I find annoying is when you get those wannabe technophiles who think because they have a flashie animation and a cool sound they somehow have a good presentation.

    It makes you not think of the content. "Here is plane, with a major design fault" BONG CRASH...laughter, no wonder.

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    1. Re:Powerpoint Flaws by Amiga+Lover · · Score: 4, Funny

      What I find annoying is when you get those wannabe technophiles who think because they have a flashie animation and a cool sound they somehow have a good presentation.

      I think you've hit the hammer on the head there.

      Think back to when everyone first got homepages. Geocities. iridescent backgrounds, rainbow colours, huge text and animated gifs galore.

      Fortunately the anonymity of the internet allowed us to email these people and go "Fuck your page sucks shit! burned my eyes. GAAAAAH".

      Can't do that to the boss about his PPT presentation though.

  6. It does not make you dumb. by arcanumas · · Score: 4, Insightful
    PowerPoint or any proesentations of this form was never intended to substitute normal means of presenting data.

    A complicated and information rich report will always have to be read to be understood.
    PowerPoint is useful for summarizng data, Assisting a speaker and other helpful functions.
    So saying that PowerPoint makes you dumb makes no sense. It's a tool. If you use it in the wrong way then you already are dumb.
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    1. Re:It does not make you dumb. by Ludoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A problem I see every day where I work (60k employees organization) is that PP is used for EVERYTHING, not only presentations. In fact, upper management EXPECTS complex issues to be analyzed with a short Power Point document. Anything longer, they just don't read it.

      Power Point makes you dumb by giving you the illusion of performing a deep, logical analysis of an issue, when in fact all you're doing is presenting it in a very superficial way.

  7. Do blame the messenger by Space+cowboy · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ... assuming the deliverer of the presentation is the author, anyway...

    It seems the art of delivering a coherent "story" for a message has been lost in this modern day of 10-second soundbites, and flashy presentations, but it's not the medium's fault that the message is confusing, it's the creator of the message.

    There are rules for imparting highly-technical information to others who may not be as "up on it" as yourself...
    • Take time to lay the foundations of your main point, build slowly and incrementally towards it.
    • Deliver summaries on a regular basis so people can checkpoint their way through the technical ideas.
    • Use graphics if they convey the message better than words, or if appropriate for humour. Understanding often arrives with a chuckle.
    • Sound effects are (almost) always useless.
    • Don't over-complicate, make it as detailed as it needs to be and no more.

    This is hardly an exhaustive list, but I've found them useful guidelines...

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  8. I think they got it backwards by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The truth is that only dumb people use PowerPoint. Smart people are bored to tears when dumb people force them to watch a PP presentation.

    What scares me is that the schools are actually teaching and using PowerPoint!

    1. Re:I think they got it backwards by SStrungis · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Yep,

      I am one of those educators that does teach PowerPoint. I was forced. I used to teach a Multimedia course that was actually fun. We used Hyperstudio as a base, and I had the time to teach them a little Photoshop, Illustrator, and SoundEdit when they needed those tools to make things better.


      Then middle management came along and decreed that Thou Shalt use PowerPoint as it is what the Real World uses. They also decreed that I would integrate presentation topics with the academic teacher's classes to inject a little "reality" into my eighth grader's lives.


      Now I have to teach wretched PowerPoint and the presentations generally bore me to tears. Plus with MM looking at me all the time I cannot have any fun anymore with other software. There is no time. Lately I have jazzed it up a lot, and the students have gotten better through the use of note cards, but PP still sucks.


      I am trying really hard to drive home the important points of presentations, but stupid things like Word f'n Art get in the way.


      Scott

    2. Re:I think they got it backwards by bishiraver · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What scares me is that the schools are actually teaching and using PowerPoint!

      I just got finished with a CIS110 class (it has bored me to tears; the lab instructor spent two weeks instructing us on how to copy files and create folders in windows). The only reason I'm taking this class is because it is a prerequisit for high performance computing (which involves clustering *nix boxes and such).

      The last unit in the lab section of the course was power point. Our project was to compare the pros and cons of different websites on the same subject, create a power point presentation, and present it to the class. I was appalled at not only how many people had absolutely ugly and overly complicated slides, but also how many people missed the entire point of the presentation - half the class simply did a little this-is-a-little-about-my-subject presentation, citing a few websites on the last slide. Not only that, but several people stood up there, facing the projector's screen, reading word for word the slides they had written.

      It is not my conclusion that powerpoint makes people dumb; it is my conclusion that people are dumb, and giving them powerpoint is like giving a blind man paintbrushes or a digital camera.

  9. Re:So let's see... by __past__ · · Score: 4, Funny
    do we also believe guns kill people, not the people pulling the triggers?
    Right. It's not that PowerPoint makes people dumb, but you could certainly argue that dumb people make PowerPoint...
  10. The dumbness spreads. by questamor · · Score: 5, Funny

    I worked in a print shop a few years ago, and people would bring in large .ppt documents to print

    not as slides, mind, but they'd laid out BOOKS in powerpoint. Yes, blue shaded background in landscape mode and all, with large yellow text, they'd write a small booklet in powerpoint and come to us to have it printed in a professional looking booklet.

    Of course they didn't want it to look like it did onscreen, they wanted it to look like any other novels.

    Upper management were the worst, when they worked on something themselves, and would bring in a .ppt slide to be printed as a poster.

    An embedded 72dpi powerpoint image does NOT scale up well at all to an A1 poster.

    All other app users, from Quark XPress, pagemaker, acrobat, word, whatever... they knew what to expect and how to (generally) lay out a document, and when we'd have to do adjustments, they'd be relatively minor, but powerpoint people were bottom of the barrel.

    Except for the guy who laid out all his print jobs in Frontpage. I think he was on acid.

    1. Re:The dumbness spreads. by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 4, Funny
      My favorite are the ones who have picked out a blue on blue color scheme that looks great on a CRT.

      Of course when they throw it up on an LCD projector it's completly illegible. Then it becomes my problem to figure out why the display isn't working.

      (Goes back to cleaning gun collection.)

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  11. Re:PowerPoint Makes You Dumb by nagora · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The real problem is that the NASA engineers choose the wrong means of communication, when trying to explain what I would suspect to be a rather complicated situation. Who's fault is that?

    The managers who refuse to read any complex printed document and force everyone to try to encapsulate their ideas into a set of slides with as little text as possible?

    TWW

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  12. Did anyone get it? by daraknor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All of the replies I've read so far seem to miss the point of the article (that they may or may not have read). Briefly stated, by only allowing a mimimal amount of data with only one obvious conclusion, presentations are skipping the analytical process.

    Let's say a presentation was done about shipping lanes in the pacific ocean. There are millions of combinations of potential routes, but all routes are essentially 'dumbed down' to either arrows or circles. The presenter's opinion is the only one that will fit on screen and the presentation must be tailored to whatever conclusion the presenter has made. PowerPoint is the method of getting an audience to agree with obvious solutions - because when you only have a single piece of data on the screen, that is the only conclusion you can make.

    I don't think that the method of using a projector and presentations is to blame. I think the problem is we can't fit any real statistics, design or model schematics onto the presentation in a viewable format. What if the web was 320x 240 resolution, with a next button at the bottom of each page?

    I think we need to start using UML in presentations. Universal Markup Language is able to model any data or action flow in a way that is readily apparent to most people. There are some specific features that take a bit of training (inheritance or reference) when discussing code, but it is always more comprehensible than one arrow pointing to a box. I may get flamed for the last comment, but realize that I actually mean "you comprehend the data" instead of you "saw a box and remembered it"

    I agree. PowerPoint makes us dumb because it disallows independent evaluation, thought, logical processes and retention of information or assessment related data.

  13. Wha? by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I've had a good idea of how to present something, I haven't been stopped by Powerpoint yet. The reason 98% of all presentations look crappy is because a) The maker don't know how to make a good presentation or b) The maker doesn't know the subject well enough to make a good presentation. Then again, the default "Click here to add text" don't exactly help either.

    The key is to have figures. Good figures, not the first piechart you found in Excel. Figures should explain things that'd be difficult to put down in words. If not, key points. Never ever put the full text on the slide. If you're going to send it out, make a PDF of the full text instead. In general, forget animations. Please. Unless it significantly adds to the clarity, not the "I know powerpoint"-l33tness.

    The best rule is KISS. Keep It Simple, Stupid. And yes, I've stood in front of a consulting firm and presented our thesis work to them (long story, but kinda cool that the consultants consult us ;). And if you know consulting firms, when they felt we managed to do a very good presentation, I think we did something right...

    Kjella

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  14. No I don't know what's goin on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In IT everyone is happy about presentations and slides and Powerpoint and stuff.

    But when *I* dare say, that all this blablabla stuff makes me a worse programmer because I don't like these neverending discussions and planning and opportunities to listen to execs who feel good by pulling their latest crap out their asses in front of me, here at slashdot I get modded down as someone who's unable to think/work in groups.

    I, personally, think groupwork is a innovation killer because innovation comes from controversial thinking and controversial thinking is discussed (sometimes with the colourful-buzzy-buzz help of Powerpoint) in groups until it's gone(!)

    However, I sence that IT is fucked up by to much talk anyways. And I dare say that this blablabla-buzzy-buzz-talk is already influlencing my comments here. Buzz-IT has eaten me and shitten me out several times.

    Thank you?

  15. Slideware bad compared to what ? by rcastro0 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Tufte's thesis is expressed as:
    Alas, slideware often reduces the analytical quality of presentations. In particular, the popular PowerPoint templates (ready-made designs) usually weaken verbal and spatial reasoning, and almost always corrupt statistical analysis.
    One thing I am trying to understand is... slideware reduces the analytical quality of presentations as compared to what ? Let me see some alternatives:

    1) Oral presentations with no slide back-up.
    This can only be worse, unless using powerpoint the presenter sees his job as "orally supporting a visual presentation", instead of the other way around. I mean, no matter how bad graphical data is, it must be better than no data at all. Plus having a slide behind the presenter can help one look back at the sequence of thought, and appreciate how many angles were explored.

    2) Presentation of a full, dense and well structured textual report.
    Such a thing was made to read, and perhaps talked about, not be presented. To use it raw in a public forum would require IMHO that either everyone reads the report before coming in, or that the presenter shows the conclusions and tells everyone "trust me, I have 250 pages of 10-point print to back it up".

    Reminds me of the old Churchill saying about Democracy: "Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried."
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  16. It's not true by Lonath · · Score: 5, Funny
    Powerpoint
    • Tool
    • Use Correctly
    • Knowledge
    • Audience


    Part of Whole
    • Text
    • Graphics
    • Verbal
    • Handouts
    • Followup


    Proper Use
    • Overview
    • Review
    • Preview
    • !In-Depth


    Wrapup
    • Tool
    • Component
    • Condensed
    • Followup


    I think I've made myself clear.

  17. Tufte's money machine by Peter+Van+Roy · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Tufte has come a long way from being a pure scientist: you have to pay $7 to get his 28 page essay on PowerPoint. Isn't scientific information usually published in journals or conference proceedings, for a nominal fee? Aren't papers usually put on the Web for free?

    Usually, science advances best when information can be exchanged freely. Tufte seems to have forgotten this.

  18. Asian approaches to Presentations by davejenkins · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I work in Tokyo, Seoul, and Hong Kong, and I have noticed an interesting trend: Asians (especially Japanese) pack their presentations with enourmous amounts of text, and very convoluted diagrams. In meetings, Asians tend to read through these laboriously heavy presentations, and the audience usually sleeps.

    I have made presentations here and there for my Japanese and Korean audiences, and I have often been complimented afterwards on the brevity, clarity, and "to the point" quality of my slides.

    I fully agree that presentations should not become policy, nor should they be treated as written documents-- sides are only there to outline and organize a verbal conversation and presentation.

    On the other hand, Asians are amazed that I actually prepare 4-5 page (single-spaced) reports to accompany my presentations (I assume because they thought I would try to pack all that text into my presentation and then read it to them).

  19. Managers make you dumb by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I remember one time around 1995 when my new boss called me in to her office.

    She: we're going to run the company Christmas party.

    Me: OK.

    She: And we're all giving Powerpoint presentations during the party.

    Me: What!!??

    She: You're going to give a presentation on why we're going to take away everyone's Macs and make them use Windows.

    Her presentation was truly horrible; she printed out speaker's notes and handed them out in advance, then read the word for word. You could almost hear the snap-crackle-pop of brain cells commiting apoptosis throughout the room. I actually had a pretty good response. I didn't give my presentation out (so that resistance couldn't be prepared) and I worked hard to keep the audience off balance by taking the flow of topics in unexpected directions and driving my point home with humor (home-made and specifically targetted cartoons, ironic examples). Basically, I had to keep them laughing before they could take out their knives and carve me into fish bait.

    The main thing I learned from this is that Powerpoint presentations are not dissertations. They really just props that are used in verbal communication.

    You have to plan your talk, use the presentation to keep it on track and provide examples to back your talk up. If you have to resort wacky text animations to try to hold people's attention you're lost. I use simple color schemes, usually just black and white, and only ever use two build styles: build point by point and occasionaly appear all at once to vary the pace. In an effective presentation, you must make your audience focus on you, your ideas, your body language, where you want to take them. Trying to understand an effective presentation by looking at the powerpoint is like trying to infer the plot of a Shakespeare play by looking at the scenery.

    If you want to create a complete, self contained package of ideas, a slide show is not what you want. You want to create a white paper.

    Powerpoint is very useful as an aid; I try to be prepared to give the talk even if the projector is broken. The biggest problem with PowerPoint presentations I see is that people don't use them this way. They try to shoehorn more information into them than can effectively fit. The point at which people's brain cells begin to die is well before the point where you can put enough information into them to persuade or inform them. Used as the primary focus of a presentation, they do make people functionally stupid, by reducing their engagement in the topic, shoving a simplistic representation of reality down their throats.

    Of course, for some managers it's an effective crutch. They really have a simplistic view of the world that pretty much is summed up by what you can fit in a Powerpoint presentation. They dress it up with animations and fancy backgrounds. There's also an element of cowardice. Peopel are afraid of public speaking, so they'd rather have their audience looking at the handout or the projection screen than at them. That's why Powerpoints are so boring. An effective public presentation is like a high-wire act. You don't expect the performer to fall, but the possibility keeps your attention riveted.

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  20. It depends by ElGanzoLoco · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... It depends who uses powerpoint. I'm in a school where most of our work has to be presented to the rest of the class, in 10 / 20 minutes usually. Most people still don't use Powerpoint (a Good Thing (tm) I think, forces us to actually listen to our classmates instead of just looking at the pretty pictures).

    There is one particular jerk (that I can't stand by the way) who insists on doing ALL his presentations on powerpoint, even the 3-minutes summaries. Shitloads of text, colors, graphs, quotes, transitions, etc... At the end of the show, you are still wondering what was the point. (+ his laptop seems to be misconfigured, and each time he has to fight for 10 minutes to get the damn projector to work. Hilarious)

    But one of my teachers used only Powerpoint slides, all year long; he couldn't make himself clearer, and those presentations were excellent.

    The USER is to blame, not the software. Still, because powerpoint presentations still have the "new-cool-wow-shiny" factor playing in their favor, some teachers are impressed by mediocre presentations, giving marks way above what they should be. ( Why, yes, that's why I'm getting an iBook + Keynote for next year ;-) )

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  21. What really pisses me off.... by Qbertino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...is not the fact of the meek not knowing anymore the difference between a brandname of a monopolist ("Powerpoint") and the type of a computerprogramm ("Presentation Programm"), since that in a twisted way in the context of this article can get people convinced that a Microsoft Product makes you dumb and that you should consider using plain text or classic HTML once in a while.
    What really pisses me of is the fact that obviously the slashdot crowd uses this monopolists brandname as a synonym for Presentation Programm aswell, without even noticing it. Even though people should know that Powerpoint isn't and never was the best presentation programm.

    Then again, we ought to remember that in the US comanies can actually lose their exclusive brandname rights when their product has become synonym for the rest of that product class. Wouldn't that be the case with Powerpoint by now? Any details on this law from US citizens?

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  22. Re:n-e-w-s ? by calyphus · · Score: 5, Informative

    You don't know Tufte.

    Don't go too far down the 'text is all you need route.' Nothing but text is a great way to hide information. Presenting data in graphs is an aid to understanding, but those graphics need to be well-designed, information rich, non-manipulative and visually enlightening. For example, compare a table of numbers showing GDP for 100 years to a line graph with the numbers in a table beneath - the numbers specify, but the line illuminates the pattern.

    Graphs aren't the problem, bad information design is. Powerpoint doesn't help with design. It does help add clutter, however.

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  23. Chicken, or Egg? by LazloToth · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Is it that PowerPoint makes us stupid, or that only the stupid use PowerPoint?

    The answer, as usual, lies between - - it's that the tool provides an outlet for the stupidity that lies within us all.

    Some of us, aware that we live in a Dilbertesque world, shake our heads sadly at the spectacle of a comrade droning through the narration of their cookie-cutter presentation, hunched over their laptop in the back corner of the room while the rest of us try valiantly to stay awake in the dimly lit conference room. After it's over, a still-conscious VP nudges the CEO to let him know that it's time to move to the next agenda item. The CEO nods, says "thank-you for that, uh, insightful look at blah-blah-blah," and the presenter wonders whether she's on step closer to the executive suite.

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    It's only funny until someone gets hurt. Then, it's hilarious.
  24. You describing the problem, not the solution by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Your three rules are the problem, they result in presentations that are visually stimulating, but does not carry any information that sticks.

    Such presentations are very simular to TV news. If you ask people after watching a TV news broadcast, they in general answer that they feel informed. But if you ask them about what was in the newscast, they remember very little.

    PowerPoint presentations have the same effect, they give the subjective impression of being informative, but the audience learn very little from them.

    Your advice are fine if you want to be popular. If you'd rather want to be informative, here are some better advice:

    1. Blackboards rule, if have the skills. But they require a lot of the teacher in organization talent, multitasking, and handwriting. For most people, transparents are better. Handwritten is best, if you can write so everybody can read it.
    2. The basis should be the oral presentation, the slides should support it by providing structure. This mean they should be mostly text, but not much. A good slide has 5 plus/minus 2 bullets (yes, it is cliche, but it works), each containing 1-3 words highliting a point in your presentation. Never complete sentenses, they are an aid to your oral presentation, not a replacement for it. Using handwritting helps avoid overloading the slides.
    3. A bit of carfully chosen color is fine. Avoid animations at all cost. Some topics will need diagrams, but remember, you can not actually present raw data in this form, only the conclusions and highlights. Keep the diagrams few, and if you have any drwaing skills, prefer handdrawn diagrams.
    4. You will obviously need to know what information you want to get across, and you should attempt the presentation at least once. But do not learn it by rote, unless you are an actor or other professional. For most people, a bit of improvision on the spot makes the presentation feel more alive to the audience.
    Of course, if your job depends on a positive evaluation from the audience, or you are doing this as part of an entertainment gig, follow the other guys advice. The audience will feel entertained, and give you high marks (or suggest friend to hire you). My advice only pertain to the, perhaps rare, case when you have some information it is important to you to deliver to your audience.
  25. Bad Presenters Use Powerpoint by calyphus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real problem with PPT is that it's a crutch for people who don't know how to present information. A presenation should have two components, at least: the speech, or text, and the visual data. The visual data should illuminate ideas and expand on data.

    Consider a news article that has a few accompanying images or a chart. The visuals are a very small part, perhaps 5%. The text contains the information.

    Steve Jobs is an excellent of a presenter who knows that the slide show is just the show behind him. He will put up a slide with a single word on it, and then speak about that for five minutes. The slideshow isn't the important thing, it's a very minor component. Or, consider Jack Ryan's presentation in Hunt for Red October.

    "A picture is worth a thousand words" should be understood as 'A picture needs a thousand words.'

    Unfortunately, too many presenters have gotten it backwards. They try to put all their ideas on screen, relying on the visuals to speak for them. And then they learn that they have to reduce the information on-screen (word-wise at least), but they don't learn to shift the extracted information to their mouth (or accompanying texts).

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    The potato it is uninformed.
  26. they're called "talks" and "speakers" for a reason by penguin7of9 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tufte claimed that Microsoft's ubiquitous software forces people to mutilate data beyond comprehension. For example, the low resolution of a PowerPoint slide means that it usually contains only about 40 words, or barely eight seconds of reading.

    The purpose of the bullet items is to serve as a rough roadmap for the listener and to help the speaker not lose his thread; it is not to let the listener read what the speaker is saying anyway. And, of course, presentations don't just consist of bullet items, they also contain graphs, diagrams, and photos.

    Yes, strange as that may seem, you are supposed to listen during a presentation. In fact, if you listen carefully and the talk is at all reasonable, you should be able to ignore the bullet items altogether. But if you doze off for a moment, then the bullet items will help you orient yourself again.

    Frankly, I think this beats the alternative of the traditional presentation, which would have someone stand at a podium with no visual aids and reading from a prepared manuscript.

  27. Re:n-e-w-s ? by YouHaveSnail · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I attended one of Tufte's seminars, and I've still got a handout that shows a patient "chart" that Tufte helped design. The patient's name, location, admission date, and the current date are printed clearly at the top of the page, followed by a very brief synopsis. The right 1/3 of the page is a list of notes followed clearly by the initials of the person who entered the note, their role, the time, and the date of the note.

    The most striking thing about this chart is the left 2/3 of the page, which is a 4 x 6 cluster of small pictures. Most of the pictures are graphs, each graph representing measurements of one thing (Na, K, Ca, Lithium, Mood, Psychosis, Temerature, Respirations, etc.). A few of the pictures are small representations of chest x-rays because in this case, the patient had pneumonia. The result is clear information about 24 different items plus clear notes all on a single sheet of paper.

    The same information presented in tabular form would be much more difficult to read. Indeed, most of the numbers on a page full of tables wouldn't even be useful... a doc doesn't care what your precise glucose measurements over the last week have been; she wants mainly to know whether they've been high, normal, or low. Tufte's graphs are each labelled at the top with the most recent measurement, but the y-axis is labelled only with ++, +, (normal), -, --.

    So the important difference between this chart and a list of tables is that the tables present a lot of data but hides some important information, while the graphical chart presents a lot of information, but hides a lot of unimportant data.

  28. Academic Uses of PowerPoint by abbamouse · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll go ahead and stick up for PowerPoint. As a university instructor, I use plenty of interactive stuff like simulation exercises and group discussions. Nevertheless, sometimes a lecture is the way to go, particularly when dealing with a complex and unfamiliar body of material.

    What is the alternative to PowerPoint (or other slide-show programs) in academia? Hmmm... I remember chalkboard lectures that were hard to read (and I know my handwriting is awful) and often a confusing mess of arrows, half-erased comments, and lists without bullet points to mazke it clear when each item begins. Then there was the time involved in writing the material on the chalkboard/whiteboard and the annoying frequency with with the lecturer (myself included) would talk while writing, thus addressing his/her comments to the board instead of the class.

    Then there were overheads. These lost the spontaneity of chalkboard comments, but dramatically improved legibility. Unfortunately, they were also (usually) monochrome -- even when I printed color overheads, I had to be careful since I was paying for my own color ink. Moreover, they lost the ability to change a diagram easily, adding and removing elements to illustrate one's point. Finally, they made it difficult to integrate video or animation, since the overhead projector was likely to be in the way of the film projector or TV.

    Enter PowerPoint. Now I have the ability to include video, so when I talk about patterns of voting, I can play campaign commercials that sought to appeal to particular blocs of voters. Saying the economy matters is one thing. Putting up a graph comparing economic performance to vote share in elections is better (but can be confusing without color). Doing both and then watching Reagan's Morning in America ads is best. Powerpoint makes it simpler (though not exactly easy, given its hostility to non-Microsoft video formats) to do this sort of thing.

    I disagree with many suggestions made by other comments. My advice:

    1. Use color, but try to use style as well and don't rely on red/green differences. Remember, 10% of males in your audience are color-blind.

    2. Use text, but not more than six or seven words per subpoint. This is enough to communicate just about any conclusion, and then further subpoints can walk through each element of your argument if needed.

    3. Never use anything less than 14 points, preferably at least 18. People in the back of the room and people with less-than-perfect vision need to be able to see.

    4. DO NOT MEMORIZE YOUR TALK! I coached speech and debate for years, and while the formal memorized speech has its place, that place is almost never in the type of presentation where you'll be using PowerPoint. Practice your speech until you have an extemporaneous but fairly efficient style.

    5. Writing your points is the easy part. Decorating then with visual geegaws is only moderately more taxing. The really hard part is coming up with a real-world example of what your talking about. Once you have the example, use PowerPoint to communicate it with some amount of pizazz. After all, you don't need your audience to remember the particulars of the example (so little text is neeeded); rather, you want them to understand the meaning of whatever point they just wrote down. This is the place for audiovisual dazzle, not your main points...

    6. Don't let the flash distract from your points. The key is to follow rule # 5 for examples, but to keep the points themselves distinct and consistent. Don't mix the visual style with which you present text. Don't use distracting animation for anything you want the audience to copy down.

    7. Get to the room early and TEST YOUR PRESENTATION on the available equipment. Perhaps the fonts and software on the presentation machine are different from your own. Perhaps the equipment isn't working (see # 8). Perhaps the resolution of the scre

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    Make cheese not war 8:)
  29. Re:English speakers by Haeleth · · Score: 5, Funny

    English speakers should stick to short Anglo-Saxon words. You can't always avoid Latin and French words, but try to use the Anglo-Saxon vocabulary where you can.

    That's very good advice.

    Er... sorry, I shouldn't have used "advice" (via French from Latin "ad visere")... let's rephrase that to "your words are wise." Whoops, I said "rephrase" (re + phrase, via Latin from Greek "phrasis"), that should be "let's use a different word". Oh, but "different" is from Latin "differre". An alternative... nope, Latin again... aha, I think "another" is okay. "Let's use another word".

    Damn, this is difficul-- um, hard, isn't it? Blast, I forgot, "damn" is from Latin too!

    By the way, I would like to draw attentio-- sorry, to point out that your use of the word "vocabulary" is not a good choice. The Anglo-Saxon term is "word-hoard", which I think you'll agree[1] is much clearer[2].

    [1] Agree: from Old French "agreer"
    [2] Clear: from Latin "clarus" via Old French "cler".

  30. Re:Not exactly by FCAdcock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now I'm just as much of an anti-Microsoft zelot as the next guy, but to quote one of my local LUG members here: "YOU'RE WRONG!" It's not microsoft, it's the slides themselves. I look at slides all the time that are talking about things that I actually know and wonder "what the heck is this talking about?" People just don't learn by using slides. It's a dumb idea. always has been. Why do you think the pentagon banned powerpoint. It's a waste of time.

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    --Forest C. Adcock--
  31. The problem is information dissemination... by jinx90277 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...not PowerPoint itself.

    I have taken several presentation classes, and agree wholeheartedly with much of the advice given by the other posters: structure your information logically, use graphics whenever possible, limit the number of words per page, and avoid distracting graphical gimmicks. When you follow those guidelines and spend the time practicing your verbal style, you get good results giving your talk to the audience. However, the real problem lies with how PowerPoint is actually used in business -- namely, as a form of documentation, not merely as a visual aid.

    As a case in point, I recently had to give a technical brief at the end of a program to the customer and my management. The problem was that although several members of senior management considered the briefing important enough to ask to be invited...none of them actually showed up! Of course, they wanted a copy of the presentation so they could read it at a later point. If I had constructed the presentation according to the guidelines mentioned above -- minimal text, etc. -- they would have gotten almost no information from it at all. So, anticipating this outcome, I did my best to use as many graphics as I could, but also included enough short statements so that someone could follow the outline of the talk I actually gave that day.

    Personally, I think this situation is endemic in engineering. I have seen presentations circulated for years because they contained information which was never documented anywhere else. Although it would be far preferable to construct proper notes or white papers to go along with every presentation, I don't know of any managers who are willing to spend the extra money on putting together those artifacts -- or, for that matter, any engineers who have the spare time to craft them on their own. The best solution would be to record and archive the actual talk itself and pass those files around instead of the slides...but I think we have a long way to go before the verbal content is seen as the truly important element in a presentation, as it ought to be.

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    "she says i'm lousy conversation. as if that's supposed to help."
  32. The solution: "The Bill Joy Font" by neilmjoh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Scott McNealy's Take on Power Point (it is a PDF document)

    McNealy famously decalred to the San Jose Mercury, 3 August 1997, "We had 12.9 Gigbytes of PowerPoint slides on our network. And I thought 'What a huge waste of corporate productivity'. So we banned it". ...

    McNealy's much cheaper, and more productive solution, was to remove PowerPoint and to "give everybody plastic Mylar sheets and all the pens they need to scribble on them", and to use what he describes as "the Bill Joy font. You can see where he licked his thumb and erases. It's so much faster," and leaves you time to get on with the job.
  33. I disagree, but still hate Powerpoint. by supabeast! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Powerpoint does not make people, or presentations, stupid. It just makes it too easy for stupid people to put a bad presentation together. In my last job, we put together excellent presentations by doing them the old-fashioned way-a big team, lots of writing and editing, and numerous preparatory presentations. I've seen other people pull this off pretty well, and even know someone whose job mostly involves doing excellent Powerpoint presentations instead of letting someone do bad ones.

    Laziness is the real problem with Powerpoint. Any idiot can toss a presentation together in five minutes, add in a nice theme, and then spend another ten minutes on effects.

    Worst of all is that some colleges are now implementing department-wide Powerpoint slides to go with lectures instead of letting professors just handle it themselves. I was in a programming class that started off really well, because the projector was broken and the professor used the blackboard. A month in the projector got fixed and the slides went up, within two weeks half the class dropped.

  34. Wrong direction by MrWa · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Powerpoint, as a presentation software, is not horrible. The problem - which Tufte points out - is that people use the templates to help them put what little information they have into a presentation. Even worse, they may try to fit the good information they have into the minimal amount of space that the slides allow.

    The bullet list is a good way to summarize and highlight data. The problem is that people have become used to putting ALL of the data into bullet lists. This leads to arbitrarily cutting statements short, or leaving them out entirely, to fit into the format and space that Powerpoint provides.

    This is why Powerpoint makes you dumb.

    It also seems to make the people looking at them dumb. I know that I sometimes come out of meetings feeling dumber for the experience.

    Tufte is focused very much on data density. I was at the presentation last week and noticed that many people there are webdesigners. The point that Tufte is really trying to make is often lost: that higher density media - like paper! - is better at presenting data than a computer screen or Powerpoint slide.

  35. good point by GCP · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are really two issues: form and content, but they're related.

    I think it's true that PowerPoint makes some forms (e.g., bulleted lists) easier than others (e.g., detailed blueprints), and that has an effect on the substance. You're more likely to come up with substance that fits easily into the form you imagine presenting in, and you're likely to imagine presenting in the form that's easiest to produce in your "presentation" software.

    This is how the design of PowerPoint really does impact the actual substance of the message.

    That being said, though, I think it's silly to put most of the blame on PowerPoint. I've made a lot of presentations to top execs in many industries in many countries over many years.

    Since long before PowerPoint existed, I've noticed that top execs *demand* presentations in the form made easiest by PP. Their days are a non-stop parade of presentations designed to sell them on one idea after another. They want the minimum information necessary for them to be able to make what they (and NOT the presenters) consider a sufficiently well-informed decision to either take a next step or kill the project immediately. Once they feel they they have the info to make that decision, they'll stop your presentation in mid-slide, and you're done, so you'd better get your best ideas into the first two or three slides.

    This is NOT the way scientists should make their presentations or decisions, and Tufte's work primarily focuses on presenting scientific information.

    The blame then should not be on PP so much as on those who PP as the medium for all types of presentations. Unfortunately, the mechanics of putting information in front of a live audience are demanding, so the conveniences of PowerPoint make it seductive.

    Of course, it's seductive to blame various bogeymen, such as MS, for all of the world's problems, too. That's another form of "dumbing down" an analysis.

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    "Those who have never entered upon scientific pursuits know not a tithe of the poetry by which they are surrounded."