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Digital Music Stores Reviewed

Kozz writes "If you've thought about trying the new Napster 2.0, or perhaps MusicMatch, or even WAL*MART music service, you really need to read this review at BBspot.com. Brian takes a break from his standard satire fare and writes a comprehensive review not only of the previously mentioned stores, but also of BuyMusic.com, eMusic, Apple iTunes, and RealOne Rhapsody. It breaks down the features of each service, the prices, restrictions, general pros and cons, and really gives you an idea of which one(s) you should try depending on your needs."

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  1. How about... none. by ldspartan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why is it not okay to buy CDs, but fine to buy music piecemeal via the internet? I don't want to give the RIAA my money, and distribution via the net doesn't change that at all. I buy the few CDs I want at concerts, in the hope that I'll still get legitimate music and the RIAA will get less money.

    Hypocrisy sucks, pick a stance and stick with it.

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    1. Re:How about... none. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Oh no, it's the return of the fallacy of the single slashdot poster. Did it ever occur to you that slashdot comments might be posted by more that one person? And that the different people posting different comments on different stories might have opinions that are different? Could that possibly be the reason why more than one point of view is expressed by slashdot posts? Nah, obvoiously it's because the single person posting comments to slashdot has severe ADD.

    2. Re:How about... none. by beaverfever · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If a band performs popular (which is distinctive from "good" - "good" is a subjective thing) music then it increases its chances of selling product and recouping the costs of rehearsal studio rental, equipment, recording, manufacturing of media (CDs, cassettes, vinyl, choose your flavour), advertising and all the other costs involved in trying to sell entertainment, and hopefully in the long run it can make a profit.

      The chances in such a case are increased but by no means is there any sort of guarantee - when it comes to buying entertainment the public is very fickle and unpredictable; entertainment is very expensive to produce as a whole because of the high number of products which fail miserably (dare I say the majority?). Don't forget, no matter how cool the underground indie band you like is, the stuff they're performing is still their product and they are selling it to a market, whether they or any of their fans want to admit it and use those words or not.

      There is no Divine Right of Musicians which guarantees success, oodles of money and hot chicks for someone who is "good" but doesn't live in the real world.

      Of course, being bad is not a good way to try and be successful, but when it comes to popular music the music is often secondary - pop culture is what is really on sale most of the time and hence the success of bands such as Jesus and Mary Chain, Girlschool, Motorhead (their first album was pretty bad) etc: they weren't good, they were cool/popular. This is why the music, tv shows etc which everyone loves today will make all the same people roll their eyes in disbelief tens years down the road, and then will be hailed as "kitsch genius" in another five or ten.

  2. Highly Windows-Centric by jstockdale · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The only down side in reading the review, is that it's highly windows-centric. The reviewer fails to point out obvious things like the fact that iTunes works seamlessly between Windows and Mac platforms (while most of the other services break completely). Besides that, it was definitely a good read.

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    1. Re:Highly Windows-Centric by MrDelSarto · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The emusic download manager has clients for windows/mac/linux and they all seem to at least minimally work.

      I've found emusic great for older jazz artists, finding albums I wouldn't have otherwise been able to get my hands on. It almost seems a bit cheap in fact, but then I remember they have essentially zero costs once they've ripped the CD.

      One thing I would really really like is access to the cover artwork and linear notes ... none of the services seem to provide this.

    2. Re:Highly Windows-Centric by silentbozo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One thing I would really really like is access to the cover artwork and linear notes ... none of the services seem to provide this.

      I think iTunes will provide album art, but yes, liner notes would be a big plus.

      Frankly, I wasn't impressed by eMusic - maybe my tastes are a bit antiquated, but their library was just as bad as iTunes when it came to older back-catalog recordings. No Four Freshmen, no Julie London, no Nat Cole for chrissakes (well, there was ONE compilation CD.) Getting high-quality MP3s is nice, and is a big selling point over iTunes. One other redeeming virtue of eMusic is that it does have more modern independents that aren't on iTunes' radar - they had Bill Elliott's Swing Orchestra for example. But no Jim Cullum, no Nina Ferro. Oh well.

    3. Re:Highly Windows-Centric by Thenomain · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > With iTunes you're locked into the iPod

      I shall have to wonder how I keep loading up my Creative Nomad II from iTunes. It could be that I'm on a Mac and not on a PC.

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  3. Re:Wal-Mart? by rolocroz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Going to be? It is. Check out this article about Wal-Mart's ruthless business practices.

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  4. Try cdbaby.com by key+nell · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ive said it before and ill say it again, cdbaby.com kicks ass. They let you listen to 2 minutes of 5-7 songs off an album to see if you like it, if you do buy it, if not go on to the next one! All their albums are reviewed by the editors to give you description of what the music is like. Plus, after your first purchase, they send you a free cd with each purchase thereafter (usually a mix cd which is pretty good.)

    Disclaimer: all though this read like an ad, its not. Im just a satisfied customer.

    This is a great alternative to emusic and such pay for play setups where you waste a quota trying to find music you like.

  5. Is there a standard? by gtrubetskoy · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Perhaps my question is off-mark, in which case mod it down, I'm a bit new to the downloadable mu$ic scene.

    What I find interesting is that some songs are available in one service, but not others. So if you think of downloadable mu$ic as equivalent of a physical music store, it's not quite, becase a CD is a CD, and no matter where you buy it, you can play/rip it anywhere, on anything (capable of playing CD's, that is).

    So there's still an insentive to buy CD's. But not as much, not enough to keep CD stores in business, I would not be surprised if they start closing soon. After that happens - what do you do to get a song that's only available from one service, but not the other?

    Will there ever be a way to buy once play anywhere?

    1. Re:Is there a standard? by wessto · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You raise some good points. I would like to add that I think the music store will not become useless to me for several reasons:

      1. I like to have a physical product
      2. Physical product serves as a backup should my data become unuseable.
      3. Lyrics, artist information, etc. are nice to have in cd inserts
      4. I can rip to whatever format I want, I'm not limited by whatever format the online store provides me. This means that future formats can be utilized without a lossy conversion process.

      These things being said, I do value the online store if for no other reason than I can preview most tracks from the comfort of my home.

  6. iTunes: not the shizzle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    I used to think iTunes or these other online music services might be a good way to compensate artists over simply buying a CD, but apparently that isn't the case.

    Sorry, but anybody that uses these services and feels they're sticking it to the RIAA while rewarding the artist has their head in the sand.

  7. Re:you aren't buying anything, it's a service by rolocroz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you break a CD from the store, are they obligated to give you a new one? What if it gets stolen? This is no different from the way it's been in the past. I see it as 'you bought something, so it's not their responsibility anymore'. Besides, iTunes (and perhaps others) allows you to copy the track to 2 other machines.

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  8. The times they are a changin? by gantrep · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is interesting because I just read on CNN that 2004 is to bring loads of free music Could it be that the business model of the way that music is sold is changing due to all these online stores?

  9. Audible.com comment by fleener · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wanted to buy a book on tape as a Christmas present for my offline mother, but I didn't want to pay for express shipping to receive it in time. Amazon.com referred me to an online download at Audible.com. "Great," I thought, "I'll buy an MP3 file and burn it to CD."

    I rushed into the purchase without reading the fine print. I didn't realize I was buying a proprietary "MP3 quality" recording and not an actual MP3 file. I didn't realize I had to download Audible.com software to listen to and manipulate the audio file.

    The audio software failed to recognize my CD burner, so I requested and received a refund. I was miffed at not having an MP3 file and the prospect of spending time with a tech support person to route around a problem that wouldn't exist if I had been given an MP3 file to begin with.

    As luck would have it, I bought the book on *CD* from the manufacturer for only $2 more, plus $6 standard shipping, and it arrived today.

    1. Re:Audible.com comment by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The day I have to use a specific media player or media burner for content is the day I stop using that content.

      There was a time when that theory meant you wouldn't be burning MP3 to an audio CDROM. Content evolves, new formats come out, new software is needed to manipulate these formats.

      I don't see how loading iTunes to buy and burn a CDROM is any different than loading any other CDROM burning software to burn MP3's as audio CD's.

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    2. Re:Audible.com comment by fleener · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wasn't talking about iTunes. I know nothing about iTunes. However, if iTunes requires me to use *its own* software to manipulate the audio file, I want nothing to do with it. I'll only support file formats that are commonly accessible and modifiable from a range of open source software.

      Here's the issue. When MP3 becomes outdated, I'm certain I'll have many choices for software that will convert to the next standard. I have no such guarantees with proprietary formats exclusive to a single company.

  10. Re:you aren't buying anything, it's a service by Doppler00 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Exactly, that's why I'm saying it's important to be able to make back-up copies of your music. With licenced music, you have to worry about the songs only working on a few computers, if that. If it was one of your favorite songs, do you think those few systems could withstand say 20 years? Will the online music website be there to re-verify your license files on Windows 2023? Will all these online music stores survive that long? Maybe not. At least with physical CD media you don't have to worry about such things.

  11. Caveat emptor by lurker412 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Let the buyer beware. As far as I can see, all of the existing online stores only lower prices to the consumer to the extent that one can buy a single track of an otherwise uninteresting CD. Now, that is better than nothing. But it is a far cry from the potential that online music sales offers.

    From what I have read, about 45% of the final sales price of a CD is based on retail, manufacturing and distribution costs. If that is so, then the current online offerings actually raise the profit margin to record labels and the RIAA without benefiting the artists at all. Should I be grateful? I think not.

    There is tremendous potential here for artists to go directly to consumers. The costs of setting up a digital recording studio are no longer prohibitive, though they are not trivial. It is reasonable to expect that sites will spring up soon enough to provide the infrastructure that independent artists need to distribute their music and collect on the sales with a reasonable overhead. The current online stores seem to be a last ditch attempt to maintain control by the music industry. Nothing surprising there, but we should think very hard about whether we want to support a timid change when the potential for radical change exists.

  12. Re:you aren't buying anything, it's a service by stewart.hector · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If your using AAC, then you are fine in this suituation.

    WMA - depends on the Music Store, for example, WalMart... if you format your hard disc / change your PC, you cannot play your music on your box. The music file is tied to a license which is downloaded the first time you play the music IIRC.

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  13. The next .com bust? by billyradcliffe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't know if you've noticed or not, but everyone and their brother is setting up their own freakin' online music store. If they all offer nearly the same exact content in the same exact form, why should I go with one over another? The online music market is still in its infant form, and it's already becoming saturated with too many stores. Coke setting up their own music store? What the hell?!

    I find it laughable that people would actually spend $1 to buy a song. That's insane. For a full CD, you're almost talking $15...for songs I can only listen to on my computer...in a lousy format...and I don't get any case, media, or art with it. Thank you, I'd rather pay the $13 and take my music wherever I want to. Does anyone else find it shocking that these stores are actually able to stay afloat?

    Let's give it a year. I'd love to see an "online music store" year in review next December. Who will stand and who will fall?

  14. Re:There's a place for brick and mortar by Jason+Earl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Jeez, now I remember why I hate going into stores that sell CDs. Going to the dentist to have your wisdom teeth removed is an experience too, it doesn't mean that I am volunteering to have any other teeth ripped out of my head.

    You and your scruffy, NIN-quoting, black-clothes-wearing haters might enjoy going to the music store to make fun of all the people with actual lives, but the rest of us would just as soon skip all that fun and just get our CDs, by mail preferably. The last thing that I want to do is pay extra for a CD so that I can wallow in all of that "atmosphere."

  15. Re:Wal-Mart? by Petronius · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wal-Mart, a great company.

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  16. Stop hitting yourselves in the head. by autechre · · Score: 4, Interesting


    I see a lot of people complaining in this story about restricted formats, money still going to the RIAA, and Windows-only. None of you read the article.

    eMusic gives you unrestricted VBR MP3s at well under a dollar per song. They deal largely with independent artists who are not beholden to the RIAA, which is a big part of why they can offer these distribution terms. They also explicitly support Linux, as well as Windows and Mac OS.

    "But I don't like that music!" Well, you _should_ :)

    Yeah, it takes more effort to find music, but I've been on both sides of the fence and I've found the indie side to be far more rewarding. Bands like Enon, Quasi, El Guapo, Freezepop, Call and Response, Stereo Total...they will probably never hit mainstream radio, and there's absolutely no good reason why.

    With a band like Freezepop, you don't even need an eMusic! Their CDs are cheap, and you can download full MP3s of many of their songs from their own site for free. Lifestyle, a side project of one of their members, has an entire album's worth of tracks that basically fall in between the first and upcoming second album. All for free.

    There's plenty of crap in indie too, of course. Here, I'll have to give a blatant plug to the site linked in my sig, wmbc.umbc.edu. We are currently on hiatus until the spring, but you can listen to the automated music stream that usually fills in between live DJs. You can also look at our Top 30 chart, which is actually a representation of the 30 albums the DJs chose to play the most, not a pre-mandated playlist. And hey, we use Debian! And our music database software is available on freshmeat!

    See, you can discover independent music the same way you used to discover mainstream. There are many other stations like ours (and I'll admit that some are probably better). You could also take eMusic up on their 50 free tracks offer, or check out cmj.com, where most college stations report their top 30. I'm almost positive you'll find something you like, and you don't have to feel bad for buying it.

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  17. bbspot on walmart by IndigoSkies · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Getting back to the bbspot article (oh yeah, that old thing at the beginning of the thread) I personally found the review of walmart's service to be incomplete. It fails to point out in any substantial way that the service was clearly launched (less than one week ago) as a "test phase" prior to a full launch planned for the spring.

    The author could have either tried to make a more apples-to-apples comparison by measuring the service against that other other sites on their first week out, or at least summarized at the end of the walmart review making the callout and saying "I should review it again in a few months".

    Personally, I'm taking a wait and see approach -- I suspect their catalog and feature set will both grow substantially over the next few months. Yeah, sure, the explicit lyrics will still be edited out, but since I don't listen to much music like that it won't really affect me much.

  18. Looking for indie music? by h3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just wanted to point out another option if Clear Channel pop isn't your thing. Audio Lunchbox carries an interesting line up of indie label music, the file format is unencumbered, and songs are $.99. The have "bulk" rates, too, if you purchase a "lunch card".

    http://audiolunchbox.com

    I haven't bought anything yet (and I have no relation to the company), but I'm keeping my eye on it.

    -h3

  19. my 2 cents on Rhapsody by rhild · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've been using Rhapsody for over a year. I love it.

    First, you can do all the normal stuff you'd expect from an on-demand streaming service; make playlists of songs, add entire albums to your library, listen to pre-programmed channels, or create your own channels by selecting a list of artists, etc.

    The sound quality is high and the connections reliable. It's not for dial-up users. You need broadband.

    In addition to streaming the songs most can be burned to CD for 79 cents/each. I seldom use this feature. I use this gadget to get the audio from my PC to the stereo while streaming.

    Here's what really makes Rhapsody valuable to me: The Rhapsody desktop app integrates the Muze database, the same database you'll find at music store kiosks for doing searches. With this you can do searches by artist, album, and song title. Also, for each artist you see similar artists, influencers, and followers, all hyperlinked together. I can spend hours just following links among artists, finding music new to me that I'm more likely to like.

    Music is also categorized by genre, with a playlist of typical songs for the genre and a list of albums and artists considered important to the genre.

    A small negative: I'd like to see the ability to search by genre and include boolean expressions in the search.

    Price: $10/month ($8 if paid quarterly). Not bad.

  20. That's why iTunes has the out. by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When you get tired of your eBook being locked in a propretary DRM, you can just burn to CD and re-rip (with iTunes). That's why I like iTunes and the ITMS, because I know even if Apple folded tomorrow I would still be able to convert songs to whatever format I liked at my leisure without worrying about music expiration. Wait until some of these services start folding... sure MP3 books would be nice but ITMS gets, as the engineer in the classic joke would say, "close enough".

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  21. In theory you are correct by jocknerd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've downloaded a lot of songs from iTunes. The quality is quite good actually. I have also burned my entire CD collection to AAC with 192bit rate. I can't tell the difference. In fact, I think some of the downloads from iTunes sound better. It might have something to do with them creating the AAC files from master recordings.

    It now makes me wonder how much quality is in the CD's we buy. I'm still trying to determine if some of my older CD's from the 80's have begun to sound worse over time. Or were some just not recorded very well to start.